Yampotatocarrot:


Looking at the buildings, I actually came to the same conclusion that it is the best method of building construction, cos it makes building so simple

...and expensive.

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Thanks, yeah skeletal structure. I just wondered if there was any advantage to doing such first. I currently have a three storey building in my area still under construction, but same pattern.

Thanks for the explanation

Effective transfer of structural load across the entire structure. Framed structure will help transfer your loads in the correct order which is (from the roof / slab to to the beams from the beams to the column then from columns to foundation.

When and if a building is not framed, most atimes, slab loads don’t follow that pattern correctly and end up acting on walls (not beams) that is why you tend to see cracks on most walls (especially when they are not designed for such)

Another advantage is in the area of differential settlement, if the building will ever want to settle because of poor foundation, the stiff / monolithic connections between the structural(framed) members will help it settle uniformly. Few months ago, we talked about some buildings seen Tilting (differential settlement)

Yampotatocarrot:


Mehn, that your foundation block high, bros. I haven't gotten the design yet, although if I consider cost, I might end up not using one for this particular building.

On the long run, with a good plan, you will end up saving more.

..............
Let me share this about planning generally

Planning is one step in doing things that is really underrated in Africa. White people plan with most of their time and spend little time doing the job with the best approach.
Blacks prefer to get at the job without proper planning, thinking that the time/cost put in for enough conceptual planning would have completed the job. At the end of the day, more cost is spent with a substandard job because of the works that was redone repeatedly. Imagine making a mistake on paper and erasing it, compared to laying blocks and breaking it.

n3xt:


Here’s setback requirement for Lagos Island

Thanks for sharing this

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Charisdesigns:


On the long run, with a good plan, you will end up saving more.

..............
Let me share this about planning generally

Planning is one step in doing things that is really underrated in Africa. White people plan with most of their time and spend little time doing the job with the best approach.
Blacks prefer to get at the job without proper planning, thinking that the time/cost put in for enough conceptual planning would have completed the job. At the end of the day, more cost is spent with a substandard job because of the works that was redone repeatedly. Imagine making a mistake on paper and erasing it, compared to laying blocks and breaking it.

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On the long run, with a good plan, you will end up saving more.

..............
Let me share this about planning generally

Planning is one step in doing things that is really underrated in Africa. White people plan with most of their time and spend little time doing the job with the best approach.
Blacks prefer to get at the job without proper planning, thinking that the time/cost put in for enough conceptual planning would have completed the job. At the end of the day, more cost is spent with a substandard job because of the works that was redone repeatedly. Imagine making a mistake on paper and erasing it, compared to laying blocks and breaking it.

Succinctly put!

Success is 90% planning and 10% execution.

When making plans for a new project or sourcing long term services, materials and equipment, a detailed understanding of exactly what is needed, when and how it’ll affect the end result is essential.

Vagueness in the description of requirements/need list/schedule of work will result in conflicts, cost overrun and avoidable delays.

__________

Six months ago, I was on a multifloor project. We had a schedule drafted for the project but the client would rather have us work at his own pace thus causing us to work overtime and non-stop for 6 weeks.

We eventually opted out of the project for lack of respect for construction standards.
As at today, the project is stucked at the same stage as we left it 6 months ago.

I’m 100% sure the problem is not funding but lack of respect for a well-planned construction schedule.

The essential elements of a good scope of work is 4W’s - What, When, Where, Who.

#kobocity #planning #projectschedule

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Charisdesigns:


On the long run, with a good plan, you will end up saving more.
..............
Let ared to laying blocks and breaking it.

Thanks, I appreciate the pep talk.

Now, if one is to construct several blocks of one storeyed selfcontain with each block containing just 4 units, will the plan cover ALL the blocks on the land or will it be for just one block, since the remaining will just be replica of the first?

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smallsmall:


Its unfair to call it rubbish, if you live in Ibadan where the value of land is buy one, get five as bonus.
Lagos Island is densely-built, a Prime Business District where Billions of Naira are turned-over on a daily basis.
You wont get a full plot to buy in such areas, even if it is available, they wont sell to you, they know the value.
Again, some of these plots are 3rd generation, inherited land and it has been divided and divided all over again.

Building code (set backs et al) are not enforced and cannot be enforced to the letter, in such areas and l am sure they have building approval that takes their unique situation into consideration.
But the building shown in picture are solidly built and cannot be refer to as rubbish.

A lot of houses, even abroad, have no parking space and occupants have to park on the street, in front of their house or anywhere else they can find space. They are given a parking sticker, to ensure the process is not abused.

Oga Mavv.. Land is even free in Ibadan.. anyone can go to Alalubosa or Iyaganku and start building there..

And the rubbish I said with respect to those buildings is simply that, that is NOT the right way for human beings to live.

Because 1sqm of land is 10million, does that mean people have to live like they're inside matchbox or carton of biscuit?

n3xt:


Not anymore. It’s not on all land though.

Officially? There's an ammendment?

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KolaShangOne:


Officially? There's an ammendment?

The screenshot shared is from the Lagos State Planning Permit Regulations 2019

It’s even extended to some areas on the island. A plan shared here last week by a forum member (on 300sq land) had less than 2m setback when sent for approval at Eti-Osa Planning Office.

I’m aware of this and I was even on the site when the guys from the ministry came for physical inspection. They didn’t complain and this had nothing to do with settlement.

Yampotatocarrot:


Thanks, I appreciate the pep talk.

Now, if one is to construct several blocks of one storeyed selfcontain with each block containing just 4 units, will the plan cover ALL the blocks on the land or will it be for just one block, since the remaining will just be replica of the first?

The plan should cover the entire lot for development which includes all the Individual units. That's one of the essence of having a plan before construction.

smallsmall:


Its unfair to call it rubbish, if you live in Ibadan where the value of land is buy one, get five as bonus.
Lagos Island is densely-built, a Prime Business District where Billions of Naira are turned-over on a daily basis.
You wont get a full plot to buy in such areas, even if it is available, they wont sell to you, they know the value.
Again, some of these plots are 3rd generation, inherited land and it has been divided and divided all over again.

Building code (set backs et al) are not enforced and cannot be enforced to the letter, in such areas and l am sure they have building approval that takes their unique situation into consideration.
But the building shown in picture are solidly built and cannot be refer to as rubbish.

A lot of houses, even abroad, have no parking space and occupants have to park on the street, in front of their house or anywhere else they can find space. They are given a parking sticker, to ensure the process is not abused.

You might be right about the structural integrity of such buildings, but what about the thermal comfort within the buildings? Over there in developed countries, people can afford to use active means of ventilation and lighting but can same be said of here?
I wonder how such buildings gain approval.

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UC92:

You might be right about the structural integrity of such buildings, but what about the thermal comfort within the buildings? Over there in developed countries, people can afford to use active means of ventilation and lighting but can same be said of here?
I wonder how such buildings gain approval.

Cement now sells at #4800 per bag, location: Port Harcourt.

Your questions/observations are Valid!

There is a cliche which goes like: "The Law is made for Man and not Man being made for the Law".
Essentially, "Necessity is the Mother of Invention".
It is the reality of the scarcity and cost of land, that requires that Laws be adjusted to reflect reality.
And the reality on Lagos island is that Land is very Scarce, expensive and competitive....... unlike at Ibadan where my friend, Kolashonge resides.

Now, anyone who wants to build in such a place, knows that they have to spend extra money to ensure they get ventilation (and the get extra money from living there as well, be it in rent, commerce or other forms of business), parking ,etc for their convenience.
It is just like everyone liking to live near the beach when we all know that it cost more to build in such area.
But if one insists they must live near the Beach, they should be ready to put down enough fund for the proper form of foundation (Raft, etc)

With enough Money, most difficulties have a work-around that can be provided.

Abudu2000:
oga that first agent is mad, tell him so. Did he bring any buyers? Did his direct buyers purchase the land? He wants agency for what, that his own buyer paid for it?
Something you already sold at a loss much lesser than what u ve spent on it and he's out to make run at even more loss. You better show him craze o, stop talking calm to him, those agents are rouges and greed is killing them.

There is this 4 bedroom twin duplex I wanted to purchase sometimes ago which an took me to. Before buying I discussed the agency fee with him and he said 10%, I said for what? I was pleading with him to take 5% he said no.

Then I asked him to send an offer to the seller. He did then gave me a copy of the lawyer in charge, then I asked my lawyer to get in touch with the sellers lawyer. Guess what? The agency fee was actually 2% from the real owner. I just told the agent, Oga have got nothing to pay you again and even if I do náà just compensation. You need to get small craze for Lagos.

Yampotatocarrot:


Looking at the buildings, I actually came to the same conclusion that it is the best method of building construction, cos it makes building so simple

If affordable, it's the way to go.

It's how we build with wood in the USA. The plywood sheeting is for bracing but the main load bearers are the posts and beams.

UC92:

You might be right about the structural integrity of such buildings, but what about the thermal comfort within the buildings? Over there in developed countries, people can afford to use active means of ventilation and lighting but can same be said of here?
I wonder how such buildings gain approval.

Cement now sells at #4800 per bag, location: Port Harcourt.

I bought 250 bags of cement for N3,100 in Enugu today

How come?

I paid down in June / july this year. That's the advantage of paying ahead of time.

spyder880:


I bought 250 bags of cement for N3,100 in Enugu today

How come?

I paid down in June / july this year. That's the advantage of paying ahead of time.

You are lucky that the seller did not requested for additional money before you pick your cemeny

Good evening all. Please for those that buy cement often, is there any propability that the price of cement will reduce come February/March or it will keep getting more and more expensive

topsy23:


You are lucky that the seller did not requested for additional money before you pick your cemeny

No they cant do that. They are not the greedy type.

Yampotatocarrot:


Thanks, I appreciate the pep talk.

Now, if one is to construct several blocks of one storeyed selfcontain with each block containing just 4 units, will the plan cover ALL the blocks on the land or will it be for just one block, since the remaining will just be replica of the first?

Since they will be similar and a replica, you can have one design

But then, it is important that your designer(Architect) produce a site plan that clearly shows the positions of each unit on the proposed plot. This will help in proper setting out and also state the clear boundaries of the unit.

Attached is one we worked on recently

Meanwhile

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EgunMogaji2:


If affordable, it's the way to go.

It's how we build with wood in the USA. The plywood sheeting is for bracing but the main load bearers are the posts and beams.

Yes. Your second picture is exactly how the buildings look at first. Funny seeing it with woods.

Thanks

Charisdesigns:


Since they will be similar and a replica, you can

Attached is one we worked on recently

Seems you read minds, cos the attached design is just a similitude of what I have in mind

Thanks again