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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:35pm On Apr 02, 2022
charlesemeka85:
upper iweka abi obosi Paul Merson

cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 8:36pm On Apr 02, 2022
Odunayaw:
Dare me? I don't have such time abeg

Iheanacho happens to be a rare kind. Please explain further sir

Oh, so you don't have time to gather proof to support your accusations but you have time to misquote people recklessly. Guy, why are you like this? grin

Go through my previous posts, you'll see my thoughts on Iheanacho. I dropped them here not too long ago. That's if you have the time though wink cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:36pm On Apr 02, 2022
charlesemeka85:
but he said nothing but the truth because if we made it to the World Cup you and your cohorts would hv insinuated that the presence of amuneke made the difference

I sabi u wella cheesy cheesy

He is always the first to throw banters and I like that grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:40pm On Apr 02, 2022
leathalbeast:
i still dont get it though, i thought awoniyi was injured but AE messed up.... He could has tried converting iheanacho into an attacking midfielder to provide defense splitting passes like messi does nowadays.


He was not injured. The way things work here, you can’t understand.

Nothing is in his head.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:40pm On Apr 02, 2022
charlesemeka85:
you are the one who is blinded by sentiment

No right thinking super eagles fan will advocate for amuneke to take over the coaching responsibility of the team when he was an assistant to eguavoen that failed to qualify the team for the World Cup against a less talented gh team

The same sentiment and shame that made you hide from the thread after what happened few days ago cheesy

@bolded... what a lousy childish thing to say.

I already told you this dementia-laden fat man child. grin

I have been busy and only showed up right before the first leg in Kumasi and even stayed away since the day of the first leg in Kumasi until now. I didn't even show up after that game in Ghana.

You don't expect me to be here like you all the time. We very much don't exist on same schedule planets. U get that? wink


And no true Super Eagles fan will buy the nonsense you are trying to sell that Amuneke actually had his way with this team from tactical standpoints when all we saw play out in the two games were totally tactical imprints of Eguavoen.

So it is you who sentiment have eaten up so bad that it affects one of your hemispheres so much that you might be in need of an hemispherectomy.

So Charles The fat... get help. wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:41pm On Apr 02, 2022
forgiveness:



He was not injured. The way things work here, you can’t understand.

Nothing is in his head.

cheesy cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 8:42pm On Apr 02, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Coming from someone who stood by the lame and myopic assertion that you don't change a winning team when Egu beat Egypt. You are now here saying whatever because you are who? Abeg shift. grin

I never said that bro. Amunike will not be our coach inshallah. He has been sacked and remains sacked. Very soon I will start fighting with anyone that writes long speeches to re-market Amunike here.

low budget foriegn coach has failed. Local coach too has failed EOD.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:43pm On Apr 02, 2022
Rubbish. Idiotic assumption.

On Naijafootballers platform, I have a quote ascribed solely to me.

I said, "Even if Eguavoen bags us the ticket in Abuja, I suggest he be removed to continue with his TD role at the NFF while Amuneke and Salisu handle the team"

Those were my words and I was never gonna give credits for qualification to Amuneke. I never was satisfied with Eguavoen’s tactical approach so much that even if he had qualified, I would not be comfortable with him taking us to the Mundial.

So say something else. grin

charlesemeka85:
but he said nothing but the truth because if we made it to the World Cup you and your cohorts would hv insinuated that the presence of amuneke made the difference

I sabi u wella cheesy cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:44pm On Apr 02, 2022
COOL10:


Oh, so you don't have time to gather proof to support your accusations but you have time to misquote people recklessly. Guy, why are you like this? grin

Go through my previous posts, you'll see my thoughts on Iheanacho. I dropped them here not too long ago. That's if you have the time though wink cheesy
I don't need to. I remember you faintly saying something "Few coaches know how to use him" and "some will be saying who is Iheanacho that...blah blah blah"

Well, unfortunately for Iheanacho he has played under at least 5 coaches since Pellegrini and he didn't shine. So it is safe to say he wouldn't shine under the system they play in SE.

Although you can help Nigeria by either stepping up to the job or hiring the coach that will know how to use him. Because for as long as he has coaches that "don't know how to use him" he will flop as a striker.

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:45pm On Apr 02, 2022
JohnBullMySon:
I never said that bro. Amunike will not be our coach inshallah. He has been sacked and remains sacked. Very soon I will start fighting with anyone that writes long speeches to re-market Amunike here.

low budget foriegn coach has failed. Local coach too has failed EOD.

God bless you .

Re market Amunike cheesy cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:47pm On Apr 02, 2022
andrewbaba44:


He is always the first to throw banters and I like that grin
later them go Dey form they sabi football and want the best for the super eagles

The biggest mistake was sacking rohr and to correct that the nff should go for a foreign coach who will instill a pattern to the team starting with the afcon qualifiers. One who will start afresh by giving deserving players a chance to prove themselves as well as weed out dead woods like musa,ighalo and shehu from the team

One who will make out time to scout our players in Europe as well as approach players of dual nationality who re interested in playing for us

Few minutes ago I watched madueke against willem 2 and from what I noticed he is miles better than chukwueze. Players like him should be discussed with to see the posibilitu of him changing allegiance to us. Same goes to Lesley ugochukwu of renne, sadiq Aliu a young cb who plays for genk in Belgium, give alhassan Yusuf of royal Antwerp a chance to prove himself in the team and also open talks with udinese’s destiny udogie

Whether we like it or not akpoguma still remains the best cb we hv currently in Europe judging by his performance with hoffenheim this season

Also to scout the local league intensively for goal keepers who will fight for shirt with the duo of maduka and okoye

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:47pm On Apr 02, 2022
You call Rohr low budget?? How much were we even paying that Journeyman again? grin Low budget??

Yet you are still gonna get another "budget euro Journeyman" not so?

I will only be okay if the foreigner is of good quality tactical wise and management wise. Chikena.

And you were in the party that supported that we stood by the same 11 that beat Egypt despite my pointing out a huge flaw in that system that was bound to manifest sooner than later. The result is our Afcon ouster and now our losing the WC Ticket.


While everyone else was blaming Okoye for that blunder or Ndidi for this or Aribo for that or even sadiq for missing a chance.... my own main grouse was with the tactical problem we were having as a team. The Egu problem. That was the reason we failed at the afcon. He didn't know how to set up a midfield that relieved his wings of so much creative burden.

Na una wey no dey learn anything. Shishi una no dey learn.


JohnBullMySon:
I never said that bro. Amunike will not be our coach inshallah. He has been sacked and remains sacked. Very soon I will start fighting with anyone that writes long speeches to re-market Amunike here.

low budget foriegn coach has failed. Local coach too has failed EOD.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 8:47pm On Apr 02, 2022
leathalbeast:
im not sure it will even happen but lets be honest, Gyan's record at the WC is excellent.. He will offer advice to the young players.
Tony Yeboah would offer more advice.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:48pm On Apr 02, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Firstly it's Amunike or Amuneke NOT Aminuke.

And you, what did you learn? What tactical solution did you profer to our persisting Midfield problem?? Point me to just one.

Amunike pops up because he has the tactical acumen to address our tactical deficiencies as a team but how would you know that when you were also among those who stood by the idiotic and myopic stance of "If it ain't broken, don't fix it" when I pointed out that our MF problem persisted even after our 1-0 win over Egypt.



TSN,

While I appreciate your comment on Amuneke I still do not think he would make much of a difference TBH.

He was part of the the Eguavon team we all saw and besides I still do not believe we have the personnel to become a complete ball playing/possession team.
We don't have attacking midfielders, we don't have ball holding midfielders, we don't have wingers who can cross the ball efficiently.

However we have potent attackers, we have strong DMFs and we have fast full-backs and wing attackers. This seems more of a recipe for a defensive/counter attacking team or a team that plays direct attacking football.

And to be fair to this analysis, we have had the best performances in recent times playing this kind of football under Rohr vs Ukraine, Argentina (friendlies), vs Brazil and even vs Algeria and Cameroun (WC2018 qualifiers)

Rohr was a very good coach who knew how to play to our strength and weakness. He would never commit Simon who can't cross the ball to the free-wing role. He would prefer a defensive approach where the abundance of DMFs shield the defence against long range shots like that of Partey because we didn't have quality goal keepers. This was how he won us bronze at Afcon 2018 despite having a jittery Akpeyi at the goal post.

Now while I support the sacking of Rohr because he was too conservative, I think a coach like Peserio (not Amuneke or Eguavon) would have done better at the Afcon and qualifier against Ghana if his appointment had fell through.

He (Peserio) appeared to be an attacking coach but I saw that he switched to a back 5 formation when he coached Venezuela because of the personal he had.

The ideal coach for the SE going forward needs to be able to play to our strength and pick a formation that suits the personnel at hand and not the types that bend easily to the fans' or NFFs' wishes at the detriment of performances. No local coach (Amuneke inclusive) presently fits that bill IMHO.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:50pm On Apr 02, 2022
TheSuperNerd:


@bolded... what a lousy childish thing to say.

I already told you this dementia-laden fat man child. grin

I have been busy and only showed up right before the first leg in Kumasi and even stayed away since the day of the first leg in Kumasi until now. I didn't even show up after that game in Ghana.

You don't expect me to be here like you all the time. We very much don't exist on same schedule planets. U get that? wink


And no true Super Eagles fan will buy the nonsense you are trying to sell that Amuneke actually had his way with this team from tactical standpoints when all we saw play out in the two games were totally tactical imprints of Eguavoen.

So it is you who sentiment have eaten up so bad that it affects one of your hemispheres so much that you might be in need of an hemispherectomy.

So Charlets The fat... get help. wink


me fat? Atleast you don see my pics so u knw well say ‘nwoke bu godi machine’

Palliative umu nwa! 6foot3 giants well built from head to toe

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 8:55pm On Apr 02, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
You call Rohr low budget?? How much were we even paying that Journeyman again? grin Low budget??

Yet you are still gonna get another "budget euro Journeyman" not so?

I will only be okay if the foreigner is of good quality tactical wise and management wise. Chikena.

And you were in the party that supported that we stood by the same 11 that beat Egypt despite my pointing out a huge flaw in that system that was bound to manifest sooner than later. The result is our Afcon ouster and now our losing the WC Ticket.

Na una wey no dey learn anything. Shishi una no dey learn.


We are on the same side then. BTW I was not among any group that said that we should stand by the same eleven. In fact, I criticized AE here when said that he had his first eleven already.

I'm of the opinion that we get a coach who assists a big 5 league team manager or is coaching a upper half Championship level team. The manager can then balance the two jobs. It's been done before. Infact, the super falcons are doing something like that now.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 8:57pm On Apr 02, 2022
Una don dey warmup for civil war again grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:58pm On Apr 02, 2022
charlesemeka85:
me fat? Atleast you don see my pics so u knw well say ‘nwoke bu godi machine’

Palliative umu nwa! 6foot3 giants well built from head to toe

Still Fat. grin Meanwhile, 6foot3? Una sure say no be the answer to our GK wahala be this? Charles... you got the height man. grin

Your fat size also ensures you already have "2 thirds" of the goal covered. No ball go fit pass you aswearigod!!! cheesy

And your palms are thick enough to stop the kind of shot that slipped under Uzoho.

You could be the Kaylin Swart of men's football.


How am I just realising all these??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:01pm On Apr 02, 2022
TheSuperNerd:


Still Fat. grin Meanwhile, 6foot3? Una sure say no be the answer to our GK wahala be this? Charles... you got the height man. grin

Your fat size also ensures you already have "2 thirds" of the goal covered. No ball go fit pass you aswearigod!!! cheesy

And your palms are thick enough to stop the kind of shot that slipped under Uzoho.

You could be the Kaylin Swart of men's football.


How am I just realising all these??



I never told you am a goal minded let alone a sportsman

Your narrative simple shows how daft you are when it comes to traits that is required by a goalie

Height is one that is required from a goalie which uzoho is blessed with but dude’s reflexes,awareness and recovery is very poor and slow which resulted to the goal he conceded against Ghana

A keeper who is alert of danger always in a game would hv saved that shot

The same uzoho a perennial bench warmer in the Cypriot league you and your likes hyped to be better than okoye who is rated as one of the best in a top flight league in Europe

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:01pm On Apr 02, 2022
Odunayaw:
Well, I don't do what-ifs
But I get you

I know what you mean as well. No worries.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:02pm On Apr 02, 2022
charlesemeka85:
I never told you am a goal minded let alone a sportsman

Your narrative simple shows how daft you are when it comes to traits that is required by a goalie

Height is one that is required from a goalie which uzoho is blessed with but dude’s reflexes,awareness and recovery is very poor and slow which resulted to the goal he conceded against Ghana

A keeper who is alert of danger always in a game would hv saved that shot


Dude is too dumb he doesn't even know a joke. Abeg shift jare... Sentimental nkita. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:03pm On Apr 02, 2022
Give us one or two names then. Any one?


JohnBullMySon:
We are on the same side then. BTW I was not among any group that said that we should stand by the same eleven. In fact, I criticized AE here when said that he had his first eleven already.

I'm of the opinion that we get a coach who assists a big 5 league team manager or is coaching a upper half Championship level team. The manager can then balance the two jobs. It's been done before. Infact, the super falcons are doing something like that now.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:05pm On Apr 02, 2022
And for those crucifying iwobi at any given opportunity hope una see how his absence was felt in the games against Ghana?

I bet you guys that if iwobi played that game he would hv created chances that would hv atleast resulted to a goal

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:06pm On Apr 02, 2022
Karlovych:
No I don't think he will do well in that position, he has a week right foot. He's at best a supporting striker

There are qualities required of a supporting striker that Iheanacho won't give you.
Pellagrini, Guardiola, deployed him rightly.

His records reveals that he impacts well as a CF.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:07pm On Apr 02, 2022
TheSuperNerd:



Dude is too dumb he doesn't even know a joke. Abeg shift jare... Sentimental nkita. grin
we all know those that re sentimental to an extend one will wonder if they reason with their anus or nose

Mugu cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:07pm On Apr 02, 2022
Cap cheesy cheesy grin
charlesemeka85:
And for those crucifying iwobi at any given opportunity hope una see how his absence was felt in the games against Ghana?

I bet you guys that if iwobi played that game he would hv created chances that would hv atleast resulted to a goal

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:08pm On Apr 02, 2022
I wonder how no one is talking about the inability of our boys to hit long range shots from outside the 18yard box.

The last SE midfielder who could do this were John Ogu. I miss his powerful pack of shots.

Ndidi is to Nigeria what Partey is to Ghana (both the only world class players in the teams) but while Partey is able to carry Ghana forward at decisive games Ndidi doesn't. He (Ndidi) needs to re-learn how to take those shots.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:09pm On Apr 02, 2022
TheSuperNerd:



Dude is too dumb he doesn't even know a joke. Abeg shift jare... Sentimental nkita. grin
we all know those that re sentimental to an extend one will wonder if they reason with their anus or nose

This is one who supported a redundant nwakali starting games ahead of Onyeka and ndah being called up at the expense of akpoguma
Mugu cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by caprikon: 9:10pm On Apr 02, 2022
Eguavoen's missteps has inadvertently blocked the door to local coaches in the SE for a very long while.

It is better some of these talented local coaches take up jobs overseas to further build their expertise and profiles so that it becomes easier to get the job in the future.

Even the Sports Minister would find it hard to insist on hiring a local coach given the recent happenings.

I sincerely hope we get it right this time around.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:11pm On Apr 02, 2022
"Pick a formation that suits the personnel at hand"

You mean, keep calling up only DMFs and find a formation that suits only the use of DMFs abi? Looollll

What happens then if we need a tactical switch in the middle to break down a tactical roadblock that counters the use of "just DMFs".

Do you not think that Rohr and Eguavoen tried that already? Trying to play with the personnel at hand?

It even worked for Egu vs Egypt but like I already explained, it is because Quieroz and co didn't know exactly what to expect from us. It was Eguavoen's first game.


Our midfield would keep looking ordinary and laboriously eye sore unless we address the need for better tactical balance in our Middle game. We need proper ball players and conductors who will sync with our DMF warriors and workrate merchants to give us a midfield that can adjust and cope with almost any tactical hegemon we would face.


What we should thrive to do is address our midfield ball playing deficiency because that is the key to unlocking the true powers and potentials of the attacking fire power we boast through the Middle in the CF role and from the wings.


Beloved03:


TSN,

While I appreciate your comment on Amuneke I still do not think he would make much of a difference TBH.

He was part of the the Eguavon team we all saw and besides I still do not believe we have the personnel to become a complete ball playing/possession team.
We don't have attacking midfielders, we don't have ball holding midfielders, we don't have wingers who can cross the ball efficiently.

However we have potent attackers, we have strong DMFs and we have fast full-backs and wing attackers. This seems more of a recipe for a defensive/counter attacking team or a team that plays direct attacking football.

And to be fair to this analysis, we have had the best performances in recent times playing this kind of football under Rohr vs Ukraine, Argentina (friendlies), vs Brazil and even vs Algeria and Cameroun (WC2018 qualifiers)

Rohr was a very good coach who knew how to play to our strength and weakness. He would never commit Simon who can't cross the ball to the free-wing role. He would prefer a defensive approach where the abundance of DMFs shield the defence against long range shorts like that of Partey because we didn't have quality goal keepers. This was how he won us bronze at Afcon 2018 despite having a jittery Akpeyi at the goal post.

Now while I support the sacking of Rohr because he was too conservative, I think a coach like Peserio (not Amuneke or Eguavon) would have done better at the Afcon and qualifier against Ghana if his appointment had fell through.

He (Peserio) appeared to be an attacking coach but I saw that he switched to a back 5 formation when he coached Venezuela because of the personal he had.

The ideal coach for the SE going forward needs to be able to play to our strength and pick a formation that suits the personnel at hand and not the types that bend easily to the fans' or NFFs' wishes at the detriment of performances. No local coach (Amuneke inclusive) presently fits that bill IMHO.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 9:12pm On Apr 02, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Give us one or two names then. Any one?


Look at the criteria I mentioned. There are more than 30 managers within the constraints of that domain. Its up to NFF to find out who is open to the job and whose contracts permit for such a thing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:14pm On Apr 02, 2022
Ndidi tried it at the Afcon and was shockingly wack at them. It is a disturbing sight especially as this is the same Ndidi that hit stunners almost like clockwork while in Belgium and in the early yrs of his Leicester career.

I mentioned this same issue on Naijafootballers special Platform. I said Ndidi is still the best we have at DM but he seems to have lost how to hit a ball from the top of the box or from outside the box. It is frustrating. So frustrating because his ball playing skills are not elite at all so why reduce a part of your game that makes you such a force from deep? I hope he gets it back.


Beloved03:
I wonder how no one is talking about the inability of our boys to hit long range shots from outside the 18yard box.

The last SE midfielder who could do this were John Ogu. I miss his powerful pack of shots.

Ndidi is to Nigeria what Partey is to Ghana (both the only world class players in the teams) but while Partey is able to carry Ghana forward at decisive games Ndidi doesn't. He (Ndidi) needs to re-learn how to take those shots.

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