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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Mooh247: 5:49pm On Apr 04, 2022
TenQ:

Except that Putin and Russia has been demystified by the small Ukraine.

If Anthony Joshua cannot beat me in the first 5 minutes of the first round and ends up knocking me out on the 13th round. He is a complete failure and I am the VICTOR!

Shame on Russia!

And who told you Anthony Joshua isn't teasing and mocking you, hoping you suffer slowly in a cold painful horrible starving manner

The goal isn't full take over, it is demilitralisation and that is on going and continuous

Zelensky hope Russia would deal with them swiftlly but hell NO they would suffer for 600years
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by omurphy23456: 5:52pm On Apr 04, 2022
who is saying this non-senescence? you want Putn to fold his hands and watch his closes nabouring country joining his enemy's club (NATO) abi? why didn't the USA Fold their hands for Cuba during the cold war in same manner you are suggesting? after-all Cuba was also a sovereign nation and could own any Missile that isn't against UN Chatter.

te author=sapientia post=111633353]
It's same people that support Buhari

They are moved only by their hate for USA

Thats all [/quote]
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by sapientia(m): 5:55pm On Apr 04, 2022
omurphy23456:
who is saying this non-senescence? you want Putn to fold his hands and watch his closes nabouring country joining his enemy's club (NATO) abi? why didn't the USA Fold their hands for Cuba during the cold war in same manner you are suggesting? after-all Cuba was also a sovereign nation and could own any Missile that isn't against UN Chatter.

te author=sapientia post=111633353]
It's same people that support Buhari

They are moved only by their hate for USA

Thats all

Any person comparing joining NATO to Cuban missile crisis is a slowpoke

And I don't usually argue with morons
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by prettyboi1(m): 6:07pm On Apr 04, 2022
Faiththatworks:
I'm starting to get really irritated by the Russian terrorists on Nairaland,these Russian terrorists need psychological evaluation.
Putin is a mad man,very delusional and a crazy despot that needs to visit a psychiatrist as early as tomorrow morning.
I have tried to balance my information on this mad war Russia started in Ukraine,but the more I try to be rational,the more I see why Putin is nothing but a mad man.
I don't understand why mad man Putin will not allow Ukrainians determine their own destiny,why should Russia,another foreign country believe it has the power to determine the political direction of another sovereign country.
Why not allow hold a referendum in Ukraine,that will be conducted by a neutral body like the United Nations to known if the citizens of Ukraine want to join NATO or the European Union.
That was the most sensical thing to do before Mad Man Putin rolled in the tanks.
I'm very happy the whole world has finally demystified Mad Man Putin,he's nothing but a delusional,mad,crazy,psyocotic kleptomaniac that will be killed in Russia by his own generals.
And for his mad cretins on Nairaland,the Almighty God will allow you experience what the citizens of Ukraine are suffering in the hands of the Russia.
The pain and the agony of the Ukrainians will be your portion for all these crazy propaganda you push out every day.

You know nothing about this war do rest. This war was AT LEAST 20 years in the making before it finally happened. It didn't just start today. What you think you know is what just started on February 24th,2022. The BTS(behind-the-scenes) is decades old.
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by prettyboi1(m): 6:10pm On Apr 04, 2022
sapientia:


Any person comparing joining NATO to Cuban missile crisis is a slowpoke

And I don't usually argue with morons

How are they different? The Cuban missile crisis was one of the causes of the COLD WAR between US & RUSSIA(USSR). How is that any different today?
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Tonnierichy(m): 7:31pm On Apr 04, 2022
advanceDNA:


U are finding justification for why another nation should be bombed and the people killed but not your own..

but you call me shallow, emotional, and that I can’t progress...you can’t see that Your head is not correct...
Lmao. OK. Keep crying
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by wasi9ice: 7:42pm On Apr 04, 2022
Nevertheless, Putin is never justified for taking innocent lifes he never created.
He has written his name with blank ink in a bad book, history will judge him and his accomplicea with time
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Aaay: 8:38pm On Apr 04, 2022
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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by sapientia(m): 8:54pm On Apr 04, 2022
prettyboi1:


How are they different? The Cuban missile crisis was one of the causes of the COLD WAR between US & RUSSIA(USSR). How is that any different today?

Cuba was not trying to join any military alliance with Russia

Russia was secretly building nuclear war head Silos in Cuba and it was discovered by the USA

It is a different thing

Do you know China have equivalent of IMF for Asia countries?

That is what it means to be a super power and reason i respect China a lot

They fight USA daily without firinga single bullet

Russia should establish a military alliance that anyone can join so their membership will be transparent

Not dictating the military alliance others can join
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by babajero(m): 9:42pm On Apr 04, 2022
cule7:
German Chancellor had reportedly attempted to convince the Ukrainian leader to drop NATO membership plan

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https://www.rt.com/news/553213-zelensky-scholz-ukraine-peace/
And you want people to believe this write-up.
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by AldrichAmes: 10:19pm On Apr 04, 2022
Invitationn:

Comrade be calming down, we are on the same side cheesy
Read my submission again. I was referring to the Japanese not Russians when I said the got whipped grin
You're spot on with your analysis in my opinion. I share similar sentiments.

My bad, I read it wrongly.

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by AldrichAmes: 10:39pm On Apr 04, 2022
Appleyard:


You have said it all. In saner climes, someone like Zelensky should be prosecuted for treason against the diverse people of Ukraine. I believe they have something on him, or like someone pointed out, he is acting like someone that has bipolar disorder. The way he would say I want to negotiate today, then ask for weapons tomorrow is enough to believe that. This man could have made Ukraine neutral from the very beginning, and Ukrainians would have been living in peace now. But no, he didn't. Rather, he chose to massage the US and NATO ploy to have bases installed in Ukraine which could have completely undermine Russia's security and nuclear deterrence, giving the US a first-strike advantage and preventable retaliatory strikes over Russia, which is so plausible considering the huge size and length of the border and airspace Ukraine shares with Russia.

As for the Russian endgame, I think the two separatists regions of Donetsk and Luhansk are forever gone from Ukraine. They will become independent, no doubt.

If Odessa is added to that, it means Ukraine would be completely cut off from sea, including the black sea. It would become a landlock country with a landlock army, one that will certainly pose no threat to Russia anymore for many years to come.

The Russian phase two will tell where this will end.

Zelensky isn’t a politician or strategist - he’s a gay comedian that was picked due to his acting skills and his Jewish background (a good puppet) - for what is going on. And the only thing someone like him cares about is how much he’ll get paid and fame. They have already made him a billionaire with mansions in Miami and almost a billion in offshore accounts. So he has nowhere to go apart from keep reading the scripts they give him.

The war is senseless and Ukraine won’t recover from it until the next generation. Pre-war, it was already the poorest country in Europe with the same GDP per capita as Namibia and people leaving the country to other countries. Once the prime area in eastern Ukraine - which is the country’s industrial and agricultural base are gone and the coast - the country would become useless even to the EU and NATO.

Yes, people always ignore Russia’s fear - which is NATO’s first strike advantage on its eastern flank if Ukraine is allowed to join NATO. Coupled with the Sea of Azov which is Russia’s only access to Black Sea. Allowing Ukraine in NATO would put Russia in a great disadvantage and the US would be able to manipulate things within Russia and easily cause Russia itself to disintegrate whilst controlling everything happening within Russia. Kyiv also means a lot to Russians spiritually. So Russia has legitimate concerns and it became a war of necessity when Zelensky and his handlers rejected diplomacy.

As for the end game: it’s pretty difficult to gauge what Putin’s end game is, since a lot is at stake and the real war just started. But I’d wager that once they take the east and the whole south - they might be tempted to take part of the north as well to crippled Ukraine permanently.

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by aribisala0(m): 9:33am On Apr 05, 2022
mfm04622:


Have you EVER seen a situation where a country voluntarily give up part of her country? That is what this "Peace offer" is. The important part of the peace offer is to let the Dombass region go. Which country will accept that?
Ask Bakassi people
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by mfm04622: 12:40pm On Apr 05, 2022
aribisala0:
Ask Bakassi people

Bakassi was NEVER part of Nigeria officially!
Yes, we used to control it but it was never part of Nigeria. It will shock you that there are many areas like that. Nigeria administer the area because the people living there see themselves as Nigerians, while the land does not belong to Nigeria. Bakassi is like that. Cameroon was interested in the oil in Bakassi, that was why they asked for it. Since there was no oil in other areas, nobody was asking for anything
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by aribisala0(m): 12:48pm On Apr 05, 2022
mfm04622:


Bakassi was NEVER part of Nigeria officially!
Yes, we used to control it but it was never part of Nigeria. It will shock you that there are many areas like that. Nigeria administer the area because the people living there see themselves as Nigerians, while the land does not belong to Nigeria. Bakassi is like that. Cameroon was interested in the oil in Bakassi, that was why they asked for it. Since there was no oil in other areas, nobody was asking for anything
You are correct Chickens breastfeed their young for 6 months
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by prettyboi1(m): 9:24pm On Apr 05, 2022
sapientia:


Cuba was not trying to join any military alliance with Russia

Russia was secretly building nuclear war head Silos in Cuba and it was discovered by the USA

It is a different thing

Do you know China have equivalent of IMF for Asia countries?

That is what it means to be a super power and reason i respect China a lot

They fight USA daily without firinga single bullet

Russia should establish a military alliance that anyone can join so their membership will be transparent

Not dictating the military alliance others can join


Listen to yourself. According to you, "Cuba was not trying to join any military alliance with Russia

Russia was secretly building nuclear war head Silos in Cuba and it was discovered by the USA"


My question to you is if Ukraine joins NATO, Won't NATO deploy life-threatening weapons close to Russia(closer than Cuba is to US that US refused) or you think it's ice cream & cakes they want to share in Russia's neighborhood?

Cuba does not share land borders with US, but US felt threatened by Russia's military presence around it(US) & made sure it didn't happen yet the same US wants to sit exactly by Russia's border & thinks it's cool & you're here supporting hypocrisy.
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by ivolt: 9:28pm On Apr 05, 2022
kiddkash:

you lie.
1. it is the Azov battalion that should be disbanded. google Azov battalion, then you'll know who they are
3. he said Russian will be second official language not the first. because they are trying to erase all Russian speakers. they banned it in their schools, and refused to protect Russian speaker being killed in Ukraine since 2008
4. He said only Crimea, because it was given to Ukraine after soviet collapse

get your facts right and stop spreading lies and misinformation in order to be relevant
He said, he said he said as if he is some kind of god.

I have no time for kids.
Go play with your age mates.
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by kiddkash(m): 9:32pm On Apr 05, 2022
ivolt:

He said, he said he said as if he is some kind of god.

I have no time for kids.
Go play with your age mates.
you're obviously a child
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by gamechanger547: 8:20pm On Apr 07, 2022
edosignature:
The western media will never show all these because they are cowards & forever they'll be.


They will loss respect if they do.

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