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Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 4:01am On May 14, 2022
Thompson masterclass. The rest of the team doing basically nothing else.
The Grizzlies are tough, all of thompsons 3s have been replied.
The warriors go on a run and they respond with a run of their own.
Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 4:07am On May 14, 2022
Brooks has scored like 5 consecutively 3s... grin grin grin
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 4:08am On May 14, 2022
Lmao. Is that Dillon Brooks, or is that Kyle Korver? grin
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 4:17am On May 14, 2022
Steven Adams embarassed Big blow
Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 4:22am On May 14, 2022
Can't watch this shit...
Warriors just turning the ball over....
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:24am On May 14, 2022
birdman:


As it should be. Only fair this is settled in game 7. I took the liberty of deleting your unprintable quotes tongue

Nothing new about your hate.. grin E Dey your body.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:25am On May 14, 2022
I have seen teams fold when the Warriors go on these scoring runs, not the Grizzlies. They genuinely believe and play like they can stay with the Warriors and are rarely rattled.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:27am On May 14, 2022
Meanwhile Butler no get joy or forgiving spirit.. lol..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6L3qmInqS0

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Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 4:28am On May 14, 2022
This game no balance at all. The Grizzlies didn't get any call in the last 4-5 minutes of the quarter. Guys were getting battered at the rim. It's all good though. Home cooking
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:40am On May 14, 2022
Khanben:


Oga the suns yesterday shot nearly the same percentage from midrange yesterday in their own loss. MIKAL alone at one point was 0-6 or 1-7, what is the difference.

PS: The bucks went 7-29 from 3 for a total of 21 pts. The Suns yesterday went 10-33 from midrange for a total of 20pts.
No shit Captain obvious. I'm saying there's an overall lack of proficiency in the midrange game. Mikal Bridges is primarily a slasher or he shoots 3's. Not a guy with a reliable 10-15 footer. He's shooting 27% from there this postseason.

You're making my argument for me.

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:42am On May 14, 2022
Roland17:
Meanwhile Butler no get joy or forgiving spirit.. lol..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6L3qmInqS0
I feel his pain. As an organization there's nothing worse than maxing the wrong guys. I mean nobody is even talking about Tobias Harris despite being a non factor that says it all. He's not even getting slander to show you nobody expects max level performance from him

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Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 4:43am On May 14, 2022
A40:
No shit Captain obvious. I'm saying there's an overall lack of proficiency in the midrange game. Mikal Bridges is primarily a slasher or he shoots 3's. Not a guy with a reliable 10-15 footer. He's shooting 27% from there this postseason.

You're making my argument for me.

What of CP3, Booker are they also bad midrange shooters. You keep bringing up this argument as if we all don't know if we judge by modern standards the likes of Kobe, Tmac and Ai so called midrange masters will be called inefficient shooters. The only wing player in history who shot the midrange at an efficient percentage is MJ and that is the whole list
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:47am On May 14, 2022
birdman:


The owner is strip club paddies with Harden. The way Im seeing it, Harden is looking for this to be his team and he has the owners backing. He also has the GM's backing. I think Embiid senses this as well - he already offered up himself for trade during his after game interview.
Lmao imagine building a team around Harden at this point. Some of these billionaires you sometimes wonder how they got rich. I won't keep this roster past next season. Harden would be 34 and Harris is already a non factor. If they trade Embiid lol.

Speaks to Embiid too that he would want a guy that quit on his team twice. These players and teams fit themselves last last if you look at it well well
Re: The NBA Begins by Manutd19: 4:52am On May 14, 2022
Memphis is a better team without Ja right now. And they are tougher
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:56am On May 14, 2022
Khanben:


What of CP3, Booker are they also bad midrange shooters. You keep bringing up this argument as if we all don't know if we judge by modern standards the likes of Kobe, Tmac and Ai so called midrange masters will be called inefficient shooters. The only wing player in history who shot the midrange at an efficient percentage is MJ and that is the whole list
Wetin and what are you on about? CP3 did not have a bad shooting game he just took few shots. Booker was 6 of 13. He didn't shoot poorly either

Kobe, T-Mac and AI were guys that took contested tough midrange shots and teams focused their defense on those guys. Why is your argument all over the place?

My point is there is no reason today's players in some of these teams cannot have a guy or couple of guys that could knock down 10 to 15 footers like a Pau Gasol, Dirk, Carlos Boozer, Duncan,KG, Luis Scola, Okur, Turkoglu, Tony Parker, Steve Nash those type of guys. Players who aren't completely useless outside that 10-18ft range for the most part.

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:03am On May 14, 2022
Can see what a Jimmy Butler is also doing with the Heat with his midrange game. That's why he rarely pulls a Trae Young or James Harden despite perhaps not being as 'skilled' as they are
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:06am On May 14, 2022
Grizzlies just aren't going away
Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 5:12am On May 14, 2022
A40:
Grizzlies just aren't going away

They are even supposed to be leading by now.
The warriors have like 16 turnovers, and the Grizzlies were not able to capitalize.
Warriors are only up by one heading into the Fourth. If the Grizzlies win this game, they are taking the series.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:15am On May 14, 2022
Skrrrrrrr:


They are even supposed to be leading by now.
The warriors have like 16 turnovers, and the Grizzlies were not able to capitalize.
Warriors are only up by one heading into the Fourth. If the Grizzlies win this game, they are taking the series.
Their shot selection is killing them too. Brooks is taking all the shots Bane is supposed to take
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 5:16am On May 14, 2022
A40:
Wetin and what are you on about? CP3 did not have a bad shooting game he just took few shots. Booker was 6 of 13. He didn't shoot poorly either

Kobe, T-Mac and AI were guys that took contested tough midrange shots and teams focused their defense on those guys. Why is your argument all over the place?

My point is there is no reason today's players in some of these teams cannot have a guy or couple of guys that could knock down 10 to 15 footers like a Pau Gasol, Dirk, Carlos Boozer, Duncan,KG, Luis Scola, Okur, Turkoglu, Tony Parker, Steve Nash those type of guys. Players who aren't completely useless outside that 10-18ft range for the most part.


Oga there is a shooting shots charts online that anybody can go check.
All the guys who were missing 3s today were wings, the Bucks bigs only shot 5 3s today, so don't put up a list of big men and talk of 3s.
Steve Nash, Tony Parker were both highly inefficient from midrange so stop with this Bobo that you are trying to sell.
I have repeatedly said it on this platform, the midrange pull up or jumper is the most difficult shot to take and make in the game, so to expect guys to take em when they are way easier shots to take is just ridiculous.
There is a reason all of the coaches in the NBA even those of the old school all accepted this 3 ball era and it was because they were shown irrefutable evidence that very few players are efficient from in the midrange game and it the job of every coach is to get your players as easy a shot as you can get them at any opportunity.

PS: Let me explain the maths again in case you did not understand, it is stupid to take 15ft at 45% when you can take 3s at 35%. Per hundred attempts the midrange gives 90pts, while per hundred attempts the 3 yields 105pts that is a whole 25pts difference.
Finally all the people you listed non of them shot 45% from the midrange, which just shows that my 45% example was way generous

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Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:18am On May 14, 2022
If the Warriors win this game, it will be because of their rebounding (and the referees cool )

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Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 5:19am On May 14, 2022
Have the Kings signed that contract? Just asking for a brother grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Manutd19: 5:20am On May 14, 2022
steady986:
If the Warriors win this game, it will be because of their rebounding (and the referees cool )

I don't see the Warriors winning this game.
Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 5:20am On May 14, 2022
A40:
Their shot selection is killing them too. Brooks is taking all the shots Bane is supposed to take

Brooks is also knocking down the shots. He has 30points. He leads all scorers...
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:27am On May 14, 2022
Skrrrrrrr:


Brooks is also knocking down the shots. He has 30points. He leads all scorers...
This is why Boxscore watching is not good. Anyone watching this game can see that this is the worst 30pt game you would ever see from a player. He is hurting his team in so many other ways that is rendering his 30pts moot
Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 5:36am On May 14, 2022
Looks like the warriors may take the Game after all. Their rebounding has been impressive. Everything else has been ass.
Funny enough, their rebounding was a serious cause for concern towards the end of the regular season. They improved on it, and forgot how to shoot.
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 5:37am On May 14, 2022
At least the Steph and Draymond slander can rest.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:54am On May 14, 2022
Khanben:


Oga there is a shooting shots charts online that anybody can go check.
All the guys who were missing 3s today were wings, the Bucks bigs only shot 5 3s today, so don't put up a list of big men and talk of 3s.
Steve Nash, Tony Parker were both highly inefficient from midrange so stop with this Bobo that you are trying to sell.
I have repeatedly said it on this platform, the midrange pull up or jumper is the most difficult shot to take and make in the game, so to expect guys to take em when they are way easier shots to take is just ridiculous.
There is a reason all of the coaches in the NBA even those of the old school all accepted this 3 ball era and it was because they were shown irrefutable evidence that very few players are efficient from in the midrange game and it the job of every coach is to get your players as easy a shot as you can get them at any opportunity.

PS: Let me explain the maths again in case you did not understand, it is stupid to take 15ft at 45% when you can take 3s at 35%. Per hundred attempts the midrange gives 90pts, while per hundred attempts the 3 yields 105pts that is a whole 25pts difference.
Finally all the people you listed non of them shot 45% from the midrange, which just shows that my 45% example was way generous
I can see that you just enjoy pointless jejune arguments. Whether big whether small. I'm talking of the general dearth in guys that used to be able to knock it down from midrange.

Settling for the way 'easier' shots you cannot make is why a Houston Rockets team will miss 27 3s in a row in a must win game and shoot themselves out of a chance to get to the Finals. It's also why the Suns never made the Finals and even the Warriors had to get a midrange killer to vanquish Lebron and the Cavs

Stop telling me what I already know about the era of basketball we are in. My point was if you're a team with a glaring 3pt shooting weakness do you keep fighting with an arm tied behind your back or have some form of counter. Which is the midrange game if you have a reliable one.

Again you're going out of your way to misunderstand yourself. I didn't say every shot should be a midrange shot. Your analogy is actually useless as Milwaukee shot less than 26% from 3. So your 35% from 3 analogy does not apply. If you're a traditionally poor shooting team like Milwaukee do you fold and keep spamming 3s or play to your other strengths.

Having players that can knock down 45% from midrange is better than a Trae Young that can go 16% from 3 in a series while taking 8 3s per game

What do you mean nobody on my list was shooting 45% from midrange. Prime Dirk was making 60% from that area some postseasons. He averaged 47% his entire career
Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 5:54am On May 14, 2022
Where is that dude that was comparing Steven Adams to Draymond. Adam got outrebounded by both Draymond, Looney and wiggins and scored a total of 4 points in 28mins.
You think it's about Size?
How tall was Charles Barkley again? Dude was shorter than Draymond but is one of the best rebounders of all time.
Draymond may have his issues but he has earned his cred. He was an All star this year. Put some respect on his name undecided undecided undecided undecided
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 6:03am On May 14, 2022
birdman:


The owner is strip club paddies with Harden. The way Im seeing it, Harden is looking for this to be his team and he has the owners backing. He also has the GM's backing. I think Embiid senses this as well - he already offered up himself for trade during his after game interview.

I doubt the Sixers give him the supermax. He is opting in for next year and how he performs would determine his future pretty much as a star player in this league and of the Sixers offer him the supermax. He gets $47.3 in guaranteed money next season and at by the end of 2023 season, he will become an UFA but also turn 34. Depending on how he plays next year, I doubt any franchise with take a chance at paying him that 4/year $200M contract if the Sixers choose otherwise.

Harden has a lot to work on this offseason. He has to get his conditioning and weight right, especially as he turns 33 in August this year. His struggle with his weight has affected his conditioning which makes injuries like hamstrings difficult to heal. I think he has overplayed his hand and Kyrie is in the same situation.
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 12:01pm On May 14, 2022
Khanben:


Oga there is a shooting shots charts online that anybody can go check.
All the guys who were missing 3s today were wings, the Bucks bigs only shot 5 3s today, so don't put up a list of big men and talk of 3s.
Steve Nash, Tony Parker were both highly inefficient from midrange so stop with this Bobo that you are trying to sell.
I have repeatedly said it on this platform, the midrange pull up or jumper is the most difficult shot to take and make in the game, so to expect guys to take em when they are way easier shots to take is just ridiculous.
There is a reason all of the coaches in the NBA even those of the old school all accepted this 3 ball era and it was because they were shown irrefutable evidence that very few players are efficient from in the midrange game and it the job of every coach is to get your players as easy a shot as you can get them at any opportunity.

PS: Let me explain the maths again in case you did not understand, it is stupid to take 15ft at 45% when you can take 3s at 35%. Per hundred attempts the midrange gives 90pts, while per hundred attempts the 3 yields 105pts that is a whole 25pts difference.
Finally all the people you listed non of them shot 45% from the midrange, which just shows that my 45% example was way generous

Steve nash and Tony parker are inefficient?

Why you they lie ?

See their FG percentages lol

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Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 12:16pm On May 14, 2022
steady986:
When people want to make the argument about this era spamming threes, they look for the extreme. They don't mention guys like Ja Morant who led the league in points in the paint even though he's a 6ft3 point guard. If I ask them to name star players who attempt more threes than twos for the season they wouldn't be able to mention up to 5. Of which Steph is one of them. Let's talk about Steph. They don't have a problem with him spamming threes of course, because he's their guy. Steph is the king of spamming threes and yet we consider him a top 5 point guard of all time. Whether he makes a good number of them or not is not the issue, the issue is he spams threes. The Trae Young they say spams threes attempted 20 shots per game this season, 8 of which were from deep. Please where did the other 12 shots come from, my sitting room? And before you talk of efficiency, Trae shot better than Steph from deep this season (38.2% compared to 38%). Even the Dillon Brooks they want to use as an example of a guy that spams threes, only 29% of his 16 shot attempts this season were from deep. So I ask again, where did he shoot the other 71% from?

They call role wings/2 guards 3 and D guys for a reason. That's the way the game is played nowadays. You don't expect a role player to just hang around the midrange area and clog the space where the star players and the bigs operate. And moreover, it would be easier to guard them that way. This era utilises space on the court more than any other era. Back in the day you'd find 8-10 players scrambling for space inside the arc, and it usually was a gory sight. You may want to say that guys take ill-advised threes quite often, but taking an ill-advised three is not different from taking an ill-advised two. In the past we've seen guys rush twos when they had better options. I wonder if you'd feel better if a guy rushes a two instead of a three.


grin grin grin grin
I just saw this.
What won't I see on this thread.
Someone with a FG% of 47% is what you call a spammer grin grin grin
For emphasis, that's a higher FG% than Kobe Bryant.
Curry shoots a Ton of 3s and save for this erratic season, he has never shot less than 40%, you can't be a spammer when you make them that high.
You need to be flogged for this blasphemy...

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