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Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Hannania(m): 8:20am On Aug 22, 2022
If I were to be president, this is what I'll do.

Anchor the Privatization of 90% of FG universities, and only hold the Universities of Technologies which are five, and the first generations universities (ABU, UI, OAU, UNN, UDUS, and UNN). They represent every region in the Nation.

These universities should be made the Ecole kind of France system where only the brightest students are sent on 100% full scholarship to study strategic courses while integrating them into research centers and government agencies


For the rest, let the private sector handle them while the government channel a portion of CSR of international firms to subsidize the fees. In the end, 100k might be all that other students will pay which is reasonable.

That way, it's a win-win situation. This will ensure only people interested in Higher education will enroll and will curb this degradation of 160, 170 jamb admissions which are making education worthless because of the quality of graduates were gradually producing.

The goal is to have an effective system with equity for all.

Cc: Lalasticlala
Cc: Justwise

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Gentlerespect76: 9:17am On Aug 22, 2022
Your recommendations are as apt as they are ideal. But Nigeria, including all its systems is not made to function optimally. If one is to list reasons, they will fill a thousand pages.

The easiest one hit solution available at this point is enthronement of the right leadership. Peter Obi will make all the difference. Let Nigeria become Obidient and from 2023 those on political and economic exile can return to a prosperous Fatherland.

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by tensazangetsu20(m): 9:27am On Aug 22, 2022
Gentlerespect76:
Your recommendations are as apt as they are ideal. But Nigeria, including all its systems is not made to function optimally. If one is to list reasons, they will fill a thousand pages.

The easiest one hit solution available at this point is enthronement of the right leadership. Peter Obi will make all the difference. Let Nigeria become Obidient and from 2023 those on political and economic exile can return to a prosperous Fatherland.


Don't get your hopes up. Even with a peter obi presidency nigeria will struggled greatly for 8 years. You have no idea the mess Buhari has meted out to the Nigerian economy.

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Gentlerespect76: 9:46am On Aug 22, 2022
tensazangetsu20:



Don't get your hopes up. Even with a peter obi presidency nigeria will struggled greatly for 8 years. You have no idea the mess Buhari has meted out to the Nigerian economy.
So what's your advice? One should not hope, right?
Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by tensazangetsu20(m): 9:50am On Aug 22, 2022
Gentlerespect76:

So what's your advice? One should not hope, right?
Best to be pessimistic and synical besides tinubu has much higher chances of winning than obi. Remember APC has all the present power and they will rig the elections massively.
Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Nobody: 10:27am On Aug 22, 2022
Hannania:
If I were to be president, this is what I'll do.

Anchor the Privatization of 90% of FG universities, and only hold the Universities of Technologies which are five, and the first generations universities (ABU, UI, OAU, UNN, UDUS, and UNN). They represent every region in the Nation.

These universities should be made the Ecole kind of France system where only the brightest students are sent on 100% full scholarship to study strategic courses while integrating them into research centers and government agencies


For the rest, let the private sector handle them while the government channel a portion of CSR of international firms to subsidize the fees. In the end, 100k might be all that other students will pay which is reasonable.

That way, it's a win-win situation. This will ensure only people interested in Higher education will enroll and will curb this degradation of 160, 170 jamb admissions which are making education worthless because of the quality of graduates were gradually producing.

The goal is to have an effective system with equity for all.

Cc: Lalasticala
Cc: Justwise

Tl;dr Fxxk dem poor kids with a dream but let’s give outrageous pensions to public office holders, build a railway to Niger, buy luxurious vehicles every 4 years, steal unapologetically and finally subsidize fuel for the whole Africa in a trillion naira scam

The title to this thread should be “How to effectively uneducated your entire workforce”

10 universities translates to 30,000 admissions a year as against millions of poor applicants who will be unable to afford private education.
An oil producing nation shouldn’t even be discussing this

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by eteebanky1: 10:38am On Aug 22, 2022
You're so dumb, what happens to free education, children of the poor

So, only five universities quota will contain all poor/average masses children throughout the nation

You'll be the worst president Nigeria ever had, if ever you attain that position

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Hannania(m): 10:38am On Aug 22, 2022
DrLevi:


Tl;dr Fxxk dem poor kids with a dream but let’s give outrageous pensions to public office holders, build a railway to Niger, build luxurious vehicles every 4 years, steal unapologetically and finally subsidize fuel for the whole of Africa in a trillion naira scam

The title to this thread should be “How to effectively uneducated your entire workforce”
You need to see the context of the message. No country in the world has an effective educational system run like that of Nigeria. We keep making references to fragments of a few billion allocated for the wrong reasons not thinking that those amounts combined can't solve 10% of ASUU's demands.

Maybe you should read again with a clear mind, then check my ending tag where I made mention of equity.

Our problem in this nation is not thinking progressively, and backing on emotions to prove our points.

For as long as we run our educational system this way, it will always be abysmal

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Hannania(m): 10:43am On Aug 22, 2022
eteebanky1:
You're so dumb, what happens to free education, children of the poor

So, only five universities quota will contain all poor/average masses children throughout the nation

You'll be the worst president Nigeria ever had, if ever you attain that position
A typical African reply. Instead of you to bring out the logical points, you resorted to be emotional and going down the drain.

Poor people in all nations that have standard educational systems attend school on loan credit. Education is expensive at the tertiary level. We don't have the kind of economy to run the loan system, so the best bet is to look for ways to generate revenue from the system.

I repeat, no nation runs an educational system this way that we do, and it's progressive.

Replies here just show why we can't solve our problems. You can turn FG into a cash cow, and the system is not protective.

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Hannania(m): 10:45am On Aug 22, 2022
tensazangetsu20:



Don't get your hopes up. Even with a peter obi presidency nigeria will struggle greatly for 8 years. You have no idea the mess Buhari has meted out to the Nigerian economy.
Exactly Tenza. He just wants to leave. I pity the next president. Many loopholes to fill up before proper work can be done
Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Nobody: 10:51am On Aug 22, 2022
Hannania:
You need to see the context of the message. No country in the world has an effective educational system run like that of Nigeria. We keep making references to fragments of a few billion allocated for the wrong reasons not thinking that those amounts combined can't solve 10% of ASUU's demands.

Maybe you should read again with a clear mind, then check my ending tag where I made mention of equity.

Our problem in this nation is not thinking progressively, and backing on emotions to prove our points.

For as long as we run our educational system this way, it will always be abysmal
I’m not among the privilege so yes I would speak from my position.

Paying 45k for other charges was hard for me and the same for a lot of my colleagues and the entire student population.

If education was privatized, I would be a mechanic or computer operator or something. Definitely not even bother to go to the university.

10 universities translates to 60,000 admissions a year for a population of 200M. Does that scale make any sense to you considering half of that population live below the poverty line.

Only 5 of those universities have medical schools, so your medical workforce would be reduced to ~1000 freely trained doctors. The rest have to go at terrible fees or take student loan. I personally wouldn’t have bothered

You don’t see how healthcare would become very very expensive’? Because no doctor world accept the rubbish 180k COMESS currently offers

Your solution is terrible flawed. Universities aren’t the problem. The unnecessary theft and misappropriation of funds is the problem.

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Hannania(m): 11:13am On Aug 22, 2022
DrLevi:

I’m not among the privilege so yes I would speak from my position.

Paying 45k for other charges was hard for me and the same for a lot of my colleagues and the entire student population.

If education was privatized, I would be a mechanic or computer operator or something. Definitely not even bother to go to the university.

10 universities translates to 60,000 admissions a year for a population of 200M. Does that scale make any sense to you considering half of that population live below the poverty line.

Only 5 of those universities have medical schools, so your medical workforce would be reduced to ~1000 freely trained doctors. The rest have to go at terrible fees or take student loan. I personally wouldn’t have bothered

You don’t see how healthcare would become very very expensive’? Because no doctor world accept the rubbish 180k COMESS currently offers

Your solution is terrible flawed. Universities aren’t the problem. The unnecessary theft and misappropriation of funds is the problem.
You still don't get it. The remaining 90% won't be paying the high fees charged at private universities. That's why I said FG should channel CRS(Cooperate social responsibilities ) for major MNCs to the educational sector, with reduced tax. That way, students can still afford tertiary institutions.

So the figure of having less medical students is wrong, because other universities will still be functional.

We don't pay tuition in Nigeria, just maintenance fees. Virtually all state schools charge an average of 100k per session. That's one year.

An average private secondary school in Nigeria today pays 40k per term, that's 120k per year.

Can you see that we're not even looking at the bright side because of the leverage we have?

The way FG ran universities in the 60-the 70s can not be used now. The pattern is outdated and It's not sustainable

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by juri: 12:10pm On Aug 22, 2022
Hannania, very brilliant insight you have surgested. I have always believed that sooner than later, a thorough review of government owned universities administrative system by the Fed. Gov. is inevitable. I think you are very correct to say the present mode of administering the universities is not sustainable.

In addition to what you have proposed, I would like to add that the Universities of Technology and the other universities may focus more in areas where the nation is seriously lacking. For example more focus in the area of science and technology ( which would include fields like the medical sciences, ICT, etc) as opposed to fields like the Arts and humanities. Not they the later is not relevant, but just that the ratio may be more in favour in areas of critical importance, say like a 70/30 ratio.

Furthermore, I think this should be accompanied with guaranteed quality free education from Primary to Secondary.

I must really commend your insight. Even if some may take the argument that this will lead to increased school fees, but if it can guarantee us the same standard and quality of education which drives Nigerians going abroad to school, paying huge sums of money controbuting to find foreighn universities, then it is at least a conversation worth having. At least, through a systematic process, e.g, say 10 % of students to be admitted in the other universities can be through scholarships provided for students with exceptional skills and competence from secondary schools.

It appears it is an area you have longed researched or thought about to make such submission. I love to see and read more of such solutions to national challenges discussed in forums like this.

Finally, like someone surgested, I don't really envy anyone taking over as president from this administration because this govt has really made a mess. I hope the incoming will help stabilize the situation and prevent further deterioration. More reason why we need competent leaders from all the political parties. I feel Peter Obi is a worthy choice for the Labour Party, just I feel like Osinbanjo would have been a worthy choice for the APC.

Hope I did not write too much. Thank you
Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Hannania(m): 12:23pm On Aug 22, 2022
juri:
Hannania, very brilliant insight you have surgested. I have always believed that sooner than later, a thorough review of government owned universities administrative system by the Fed. Gov. is inevitable. I think you are very correct to say the present mode of administering the universities is not sustainable.

In addition to what you have proposed, I would like to add that the Universities of Technology and the other universities may focus more in areas where the nation is seriously lacking. For example more focus in the area of science and technology ( which would include fields like the medical sciences, ICT, etc) as opposed to fields like the Arts and humanities. Not they the later is not relevant, but just that the ratio may be more in favour in areas of critical importance, say like a 70/30 ratio.

Furthermore, I think this should be accompanied with guaranteed quality free education from Primary to Secondary.

I must really commend your insight. Even if some may take the argument that this will lead to increased school fees, but if it can guarantee us the same standard and quality of education which drives Nigerians going abroad to school, paying huge sums of money controbuting to find foreighn universities, then it is at least a conversation worth having. At least, through a systematic process, e.g, say 10 % of students to be admitted in the other universities can be through scholarships provided for students with exceptional skills and competence from secondary schools.

It appears it is an area you have longed researched or thought about to make such submission. I love to see and read more of such solutions to national challenges discussed in forums like this.

Finally, like someone surgested, I don't really envy anyone taking over as president from this administration because this govt has made a mess. I hope the incoming will help stabilize the situation and prevent further deterioration. More reasons why we need competent leaders from all the political parties. I feel Peter Obi is a worthy choice for the Labour Party, just I feel like Osinbanjo would have been a worthy choice for the APC.

Hope I did not write too much. Thank you
You wrote just as much as was needed; smiley. Education from primary to secondary is a right in any part of the world. But when it comes to the tertiary level, it's a privilege.

We're so used to the leverage of this unsustainable system, and no ones wants to face reality.

When china evolved last 30 years, such reforms were made. After secondary school, you have the option to attend a vocational school or university. That kind of initiative made millions of Chinese people to opt for vocational and trade school, and today the products we use are the results of the industrial impact it had on their nation.

If only we have progressive leaders
Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Nobody: 12:32pm On Aug 22, 2022
Hannania:
You still don't get it. The remaining 90% won't be paying the high fees charged at private universities. That's why I said FG should channel CRS(Cooperate social responsibilities ) for major MNCs to the educational sector, with reduced tax. That way, students can still afford tertiary institutions.

So the figure of having less medical students is wrong, because other universities will still be functional.

We don't pay tuition in Nigeria, just maintenance fees. Virtually all state schools charge an average of 100k per session. That's one year.

An average private secondary school in Nigeria today pays 40k per term, that's 120k per year.

Can you see that we're not even looking at the bright side because of the leverage we have?

The way FG ran universities in the 60-the 70s can not be used now. The pattern is outdated and It's not sustainable
Are you referring to the same CSR that offer less than 200 students each scholarships worth 100 - 200k(less than $500) annually? That would amount to what? 2000 students or so annually? How does that even make sense as an alternative

Now you're mentioning secondary schools and state funded school which actually fails in comparison to what your suggesting.

Let me paint the picture you're asking for. A minimum of 700k per annum which is the fee private universities like Bowen, Madonna, and Covenant charge. Atiku's university even charge a minimum 2.2M per annum.
Of course whoever buys the university would want to make profit and compete so we expect the price to be at least 700 for non-professional course and 2M+ for professional courses

Assume another 200 - 500k for accomodation

Now remember, only 60,000 of our most brilliant get the free pass of state funds, the rest have 2 choices, take loans or skip tertiary education. As a student, I can tell you for free, 90% would skip. In my class, I can guess only 5 students can afford 2M+ annually for just tuition.

Say I get crazy enough to take a 15M loan(tuition + accomodation for 6 years). Which job would repay that? The 180k government hospital job or the 70k - 100k private hospital gigs?

even for non-professional courses, it would take 3.5M at the least. And they don't even have the job security of the professional courses. How will they repay that?
How do you tell even the most brilliant of these lots of leave Alamaco or Alaba and choose incurring such debts. What do you think happens when your future engineers and doctors are selling spare parts?

Non-subsided education is recipe for failure in Nigeria, it won't work in the poverty capital of the world. You would just end up with more impoverished population/workforce and your economy goes to sh!t.


Again, I ask, what is an oil producing nation doing considering this if not for the stupidity of our leaders.
We earn enough to fund our educational system. Professors are paid less than $1000 a month and they are the highest paid, so I don't get the excuse

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by samuelpeters(m): 12:46pm On Aug 22, 2022
DrLevi:

I’m not among the privilege so yes I would speak from my position.

Paying 45k for other charges was hard for me and the same for a lot of my colleagues and the entire student population.

If education was privatized, I would be a mechanic or computer operator or something. Definitely not even bother to go to the university.

10 universities translates to 60,000 admissions a year for a population of 200M. Does that scale make any sense to you considering half of that population live below the poverty line.

Only 5 of those universities have medical schools, so your medical workforce would be reduced to ~1000 freely trained doctors. The rest have to go at terrible fees or take student loan. I personally wouldn’t have bothered

You don’t see how healthcare would become very very expensive’? Because no doctor world accept the rubbish 180k COMESS currently offers

Your solution is terrible flawed. Universities aren’t the problem. The unnecessary theft and misappropriation of funds is the problem.
School is not for everyone!
Education especially tertiary is expensive anywhere in the world!
This the truth some of us do not want to accept.
Even FG knows that is the solution to this incessant strike.
Since they know you and I would kick against it, they continue to allow you get your below average education while they train their kids in standard universities round the world.

OP is right. Hold on to technology and first generation universities. Any poor child that wants to attend any of them would know he/she is up to the task. because it will be very competitive and those with the best brains would be admitted.
If you don't have money and NOT so brilliant, then look for something else.
Before all these; FG needs to upgrade and get our technical schools up and running too.

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Nobody: 12:59pm On Aug 22, 2022
samuelpeters:

School is not for everyone!
Education especially tertiary is expensive anywhere in the world!
This the truth some of us do not want to accept.
Even FG knows that is the solution to this incessant strike.
Since they know you and I would kick against it, they continue to allow you get your below average education while they train their kids in standard universities round the world.

OP is right. Hold on to technology and first generation universities. Any poor child that wants to attend any of them would know he/she is up to the task. because it will be very competitive and those with the best brains would be admitted.
If you don't have money and NOT so brilliant, then look for something else.
Before all these; FG needs to upgrade and get our technical schools up and running too.
What I hear you saying is "School is for the rich"... The rich don't even use the universities in question so it becomes pointless privatising them to start with. You raise the fees and these universities die a natural death. UTME registrations go from 1M+ to 10k

For a clearer example, look at our airlines in the last couple months since the hike. Ask them what happens when a product is unaffordable to the poor

And where does it end? with just education or we would take a shot at healthcare too?

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by tensazangetsu20(m): 1:04pm On Aug 22, 2022
samuelpeters:

School is not for everyone!
Education especially tertiary is expensive anywhere in the world!
This the truth some of us do not want to accept.
Even FG knows that is the solution to this incessant strike.
Since they know you and I would kick against it, they continue to allow you get your below average education while they train their kids in standard universities round the world.

OP is right. Hold on to technology and first generation universities. Any poor child that wants to attend any of them would know he/she is up to the task. because it will be very competitive and those with the best brains would be admitted.
If you don't have money and NOT so brilliant, then look for something else.
Before all these; FG needs to upgrade and get our technical schools up and running too.

Education is free in brazil sha and their universities are highly ranked with university of sao paolo amongst the top 100 in the world.

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Hannania(m): 1:13pm On Aug 22, 2022
tensazangetsu20:


Education is free in brazil sha and their universities are highly ranked with university of sao paolo amongst the top 100 in the world.
It's also free in Nigeria, because we don't pay tuition. We pay registration fee, just as they do in brazil. But if you check, you'd notice that the federal government in Brazil contributes less than 30% of funding. State and other sectors are the major funders, which is why I said CRS should be channeled in ours.

The reg fee they pay is even more than the 30-50k we pay in Nigeria. The difference is the structure. We lack proper structure
Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Hannania(m): 1:33pm On Aug 22, 2022
DrLevi:

Are you referring to the same CSR that offer less than 200 students each scholarships worth 100 - 200k(less than $500) annually? That would amount to what? 2000 students or so annually? How does that even make sense as an alternative

Now you're mentioning secondary schools and state funded school which actually fails in comparison to what your suggesting.

Let me paint the picture you're asking for. A minimum of 700k per annum which is the fee private universities like Bowen, Madonna, and Covenant charge. Atiku's university even charge a minimum 2.2M per annum.
Of course whoever buys the university would want to make profit and compete so we expect the price to be at least 700 for non-professional course and 2M+ for professional courses

Assume another 200 - 500k for accomodation

Now remember, only 60,000 of our most brilliant get the free pass of state funds, the rest have 2 choices, take loans or skip tertiary education. As a student, I can tell you for free, 90% would skip. In my class, I can guess only 5 students can afford 2M+ annually for just tuition.

Say I get crazy enough to take a 15M loan(tuition + accomodation for 6 years). Which job would repay that? The 180k government hospital job or the 70k - 100k private hospital gigs?

even for non-professional courses, it would take 3.5M at the least. And they don't even have the job security of the professional courses. How will they repay that?
How do you tell even the most brilliant of these lots of leave Alamaco or Alaba and choose incurring such debts. What do you think happens when your future engineers and doctors are selling spare parts?

Non-subsided education is recipe for failure in Nigeria, it won't work in the poverty capital of the world. You would just end up with a more impoverished population/workforce and your economy go to sh!t.


Again, I ask, what is an oil-producing nation doing considering this if not for the stupidity of our leaders?
We earn enough to fund our educational system. Professors are paid less than $1000 a month and they are the highest paid, so I don't get the excuse
Levi, you're making a point, but you're forgetting some major details.

Firstly CSR goes beyond scholarships cheesy. Scholarships make up less than 5% of CSR. If it's well accounted for, there are millions of dollars there which if converted to Naira can amount to billions enough to create the subsidy I pointed out.

The privatization I made mentioned of is not a 100% takeover, but a government-private shared responsibility. If not because our universities are unproductive, funding from private sectors alone through research grants can cover every dime of internal funding.

ASUU is asking for something unsustainable with a poor governance structure. Let me remind you that our annual budget is less than $30bn, which is to service a populace of 200m people. More than 50% of that budget goes to debt servicing.

Unless we reform to a private - State-FG system of education, we can't get what we're asking for.

I'm still pointing to my claim of equity. 100k tuition introduction is not exhaustive because most FG schools are in that range already. If it's introduced and FG cover half, while we come to the reality of the other, it will curb a lot of deficit.


The point is, ASUU can't get what they're asking for with the abysmal government we have. Unless the whole FG structure is rightly fixed, meeting one end of the demand is not the way to go

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by LordIsaac(m): 1:51pm On Aug 22, 2022
Quota system and nepotism will still be used to run the ones that will be managed by FG. The country has serious structural problems- a country overpopulated with people bereft of common sense.

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by samuelpeters(m): 3:25pm On Aug 22, 2022
DrLevi:

What I hear you saying is "School is for the rich"... The rich don't even use the universities in question so it becomes pointless privatising them to start with. You raise the fees and these universities die a natural death. UTME registrations go from 1M+ to 10k

For a clearer example, look at our airlines in the last couple months since the hike. Ask them what happens when a product is unaffordable to the poor

And where does it end? with just education or we would take a shot at healthcare too?
Since the fees are relatively low has anything changed? Aren't our universities dying?

Personally, If privatization is not the answer then these universities should be given their autonomy. Let them fix their fees (with government regulation of course). That way; we are sure of graduates that are capable and sound. Not these half baked graduates that schooled with stop and start academic calendar.
Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Gentlerespect76: 4:12pm On Aug 22, 2022
tensazangetsu20:

Best to be pessimistic and synical besides tinubu has much higher chances of winning than obi. Remember APC has all the present power and they will rig the elections massively.
You will be the one to be pessimistic not me. Do you know what you are talking about? Who is Tinubu?

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Nobody: 5:23pm On Aug 22, 2022
Hannania:
Levi, you're making a point, but you're forgetting some major details.

Firstly CSR goes beyond scholarships cheesy. Scholarships make up less than 5% of CSR. If it's well accounted for, there are millions of dollars there which if converted to Naira can amount to billions enough to create the subsidy I pointed out.

The privatization I made mentioned of is not a 100% takeover, but a government-private shared responsibility. If not because our universities are unproductive, funding from private sectors alone through research grants can cover every dime of internal funding.

ASUU is asking for something unsustainable with a poor governance structure. Let me remind you that our annual budget is less than $30bn, which is to service a populace of 200m people. More than 50% of that budget goes to debt servicing.

Unless we reform to a private - State-FG system of education, we can't get what we're asking for.

I'm still pointing to my claim of equity. 100k tuition introduction is not exhaustive because most FG schools are in that range already. If it's introduced and FG cover half, while we come to the reality of the other, it will curb a lot of deficit.


The point is, ASUU can't get what they're asking for with the abysmal government we have. Unless the whole FG structure is rightly fixed, meeting one end of the demand is not the way to go
I doubt CSR is just 5%, and even if it is, I doubt the remaining 95% is related to education. So we can rule out CSR making any significant contribution to funding the sector at a scale.

If you get you correctly, you're saying "Less subsidisation" and not a total privatisation. What percentage of funding are you proposing 60 - 40? 70 -30? 50 - 50?
This brings up so many questions

1. How did you come up with a 100k tuition(150k + the current maintenance fee) without an assumed funding ratio. Okay, lets estimate that against 1M students, that would be 100B in revenue. Good money sure, but 100k is 3 months salary at the current minimum wage. Considering this universities are attended by the poor who earn around but mostly below minimum wage, I foresee many problems.
This is assuming, a privatization only increases the cost by 200%. Realistically, it should rise by 600% in a public-private partnership

2. So we make all this noise only to relief the government of 100B($200M at #500) annually. You want to tell me we can't save 200M from any where else instead of putting the burden on pushing more poor people leading to a more uneducated population.

This discussion is tiring. las las after they remove it, I hope you have money to give your kids tertiary education. Because like Tensa, I'm also not sold on birthing kids who can't attain the highest level of education without being exceptionally smart or coming from a comfortably wealthy family

If there were high paying jobs maybe this would make sense but with unemployment is at 30+% how to do you sell expensive tertiary education to anyone?
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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by DrBrainstorm(m): 5:45pm On Aug 22, 2022
OP insightful, but how do parents earning a little above minimum wage pay a 100K tuition fees?
Oh I forgot you emphasized on "tertiary education is not for everybody" grin
I think I agree more with DrLevi's submissions.
Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Hannania(m): 6:18pm On Aug 22, 2022
DrLevi:

I doubt CSR is just 5%, and even if it is, I doubt the remaining 95% is related to education. So we can rule out CSR making any significant contribution to funding the sector at a scale.

If you get you correctly, you're saying "Less subsidisation" and not a total privatisation. What percentage of funding are you proposing 60 - 40? 70 -30? 50 - 50?
This brings up so many questions

1. How did you come up with a 100k tuition(150k + the current maintenance fee) without an assumed funding ratio. Okay, lets estimate that against 1M students, that would be 100B in revenue. Good money sure, but 100k is 3 months salary at the current minimum wage. Considering this universities are attended by the poor who earn around but mostly below minimum wage, I foresee many problems.
This is assuming, a privatization only increases the cost by 200%. Realistically, it should rise by 600% in a public-private partnership

2. So we make all this noise only to relief the government of 100B($200M at #500) annually. You want to tell me we can't save 200M from any where else instead of putting the burden on pushing more poor people leading to a more uneducated population.

This discussion is tiring. las las after they remove it, I hope you have money to give your kids tertiary education. Because like Tensa, I'm also not sold on birthing kids who can't attain the highest level of education without being exceptionally smart or coming from a comfortably wealthy family

If there were high paying jobs maybe this would make sense but with unemployment is at 30+% how to do you sell expensive tertiary education to anyone?
Thanks for the last two paragraphs. You'd now agree with me that due to our abysmal government, ASUU's demands realistically would not be met by any government. We have a weak economy and a debt servicing system.

Its well. Nigeria's problems are numerous to think of
Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by galantjoe(m): 10:25pm On Aug 22, 2022
Hannania:
A typical African reply. Instead of you to bring out the logical points, you resorted to be emotional and going down the drain.

Poor people in all nations that have standard educational systems attend school on loan credit. Education is expensive at the tertiary level. We don't have the kind of economy to run the loan system, so the best bet is to look for ways to generate revenue from the system.

I repeat, no nation runs an educational system this way that we do, and it's progressive.

Replies here just show why we can't solve our problems. You can turn FG into a cash cow, and the system is not protective.

You re very right

Nigeria runs a almost-free tertiary education unlike other countries. Education at tertiary level is often expensive. So making it expensive makes it a serious business and thus increases its quality

To solve this ASUU perennial problems, the govt should privatize federal and state govt university. Or they should be handed to experts to run them.

Senseless ASUU strike will frizzle out
Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by idu1(m): 10:38pm On Aug 22, 2022
Hannania:
A typical African reply. Instead of you to bring out the logical points, you resorted to be emotional and going down the drain.

Poor people in all nations that have standard educational systems attend school on loan credit. Education is expensive at the tertiary level. We don't have the kind of economy to run the loan system, so the best bet is to look for ways to generate revenue from the system.

I repeat, no nation runs an educational system this way that we do, and it's progressive.

Replies here just show why we can't solve our problems. You can turn FG into a cash cow, and the system is not protective.

What are reasonable young nigerian. Very brilliant. Your kind are very scarce. God bless you.

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by idu1(m): 10:45pm On Aug 22, 2022
DrLevi:

I’m not among the privilege so yes I would speak from my position.

Paying 45k for other charges was hard for me and the same for a lot of my colleagues and the entire student population.

If education was privatized, I would be a mechanic or computer operator or something. Definitely not even bother to go to the university.

10 universities translates to 60,000 admissions a year for a population of 200M. Does that scale make any sense to you considering half of that population live below the poverty line.

Only 5 of those universities have medical schools, so your medical workforce would be reduced to ~1000 freely trained doctors. The rest have to go at terrible fees or take student loan. I personally wouldn’t have bothered

You don’t see how healthcare would become very very expensive’? Because no doctor world accept the rubbish 180k COMESS currently offers

Your solution is terrible flawed. Universities aren’t the problem. The unnecessary theft and misappropriation of funds is the problem.


We are too emotional and unrealistic in this country. His solution is the best and what should be done. Just like how we are shying away from removal of fuel subsidy. Must everyone go to university? Ours university education have no substance. Poorly trained graduates everywhere. How many computer science graduates knows what they are doing?
Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Nobody: 11:04pm On Aug 22, 2022
idu1:

We are too emotional and unrealistic in this country. His solution is the best and what should be done. Just like how we are shying away from removal of fuel subsidy. Must everyone go to university? Ours university education have no substance. Poorly trained graduates everywhere. How many computer science graduates knows what they are doing?
I'm sure Germany and all the Scandinavian countries are unrealistic too

I no get strength, no be like na only me dey enjoy the subsidy why I go con day talk the same thing over and over again

whatever consequences that arise from the removal will be bore by all.

Have a nice day man

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Re: Opinion: Solution To ASUU Strike. by Hannania(m): 12:45am On Aug 23, 2022
galantjoe:


You re very right

Nigeria runs a almost-free tertiary education unlike other countries. Education at tertiary level is often expensive. So making it expensive makes it a serious business and thus increases its quality

To solve this ASUU perennial problems, the govt should privatize federal and state govt universities. Or they should be handed to experts to run them.

Senseless ASUU strike will frizzle out
We lack leaders with the guts to make such bold moves. Let's compare it to brazil, where the FG funds just 25% of the educational infrastructure. The remaining 75% is shared between state and private sectors. 75% of Brazilian undergraduates attend a private university. They can afford it because the government have them leverage.

We need to stop using reforms of the 60s, 70s and 80s.

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