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Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:33pm On Aug 28, 2022
PastorAIO:

So he came from nowhere and only him waka from nowhere go Egypt. Because his domain is nowhere no wonder he is so jealous and thieving. That must be what Jesus meant when he said birds has nests, foxes have holes but the son of yhwh had Nowhere.

You still have a long way to go but tribalism won't allow you see clearly.

Jehovah is the Almighty and Creator of the earth, Adam alienated himself from the true God and sold the earth and his descendants to Satan. That's why Satan could confidently say:

“I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish" Luke 4:6

Satan became the god of this system of things right from the time Adam and Eve chose him over their rightful owner and Creator! 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

JEHOVAH is only acting on his LOVE for innocent mankind who never signed their lives to Satan the Devil. That's why He has to ask for just a portion of the earth to establish pure worship!

So my friend you still have a long way to go in this if you're not open to reasoning! smiley
Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:43pm On Aug 28, 2022
PastorAIO:

Where did you read that one now o? Abi na personal revelation? When did yhwh send warning to canaanites and when did the bible say the demons deceived their worshipers.

JEHOVAH'S treatment of Egyptian and the way He brought the Israelites out of Egypt to walk on dry land through the red sea is enough warning message to all the Canaanites that the Almighty God is coming with the Israelites.
That's why Rahab of Jericho took side with JEHOVAH! Joshua 2:9-10

So He has sent a warning message ahead even a nation in Canaan used discernment to secure their own place they are called the Gibeonites! Joshua 9:3-21


Calm down and learn about the Holy One of Israel JEHOVAH!

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Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:45pm On Aug 28, 2022
PastorAIO:

So you don’t think that giving demons goats will make them return? Return from where sef? Where did they go? I thought they were in their domain.

Yes they can return for sure if JEHOVAH abandon His people! smiley

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Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:50pm On Aug 28, 2022
PastorAIO:

You tell me the achievement of man that is so wonderful and I’ll see if I can’t name another species that can do it and even better. There are humans living in the Amazon forest, naked, no big buildings, close to nature, no modern technology. Are you suggesting that those ones are not intelligent or they were not made in the image of God?
I don’t know why you are ululating ‘Jehovah jehovah’. Is something paining you? You don’t even know his name sef, you just conjecture that it’s Jehovah.

Please don't start arguing with insults remember how politely you came into the discussion! smiley

When you talked about elephants were you referring to all elephants or you attributed what some did to quantify their specie globally? wink

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Re: What Is Olorun? by PastorAIO: 3:55pm On Aug 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


The first sentence i'll translate in English:

"Èṣù, do not devastate my life please do that to someone else"

There's no other deity in Yorùbá mythology that's revered as evil one except Èṣù, all other gods have one thing or the other they can be contacted for benefits but this particular deity is only called upon ?
MaxInDHouse:


Please don't start arguing with insults remember how politely you came into the discussion! smiley

MaxInDHouse:


You still have a long way to go but tribalism won't allow you see clearly.



You talk of arguing with insults. You asked if I was a tribalist I said I’m not a tribalist. Yet you continued to call me a tribalist as a way to delegitimise my points.

You didn’t even address any of the points I was making just carrying your goalpost from here to there in a bid to avoid an honest discussion.

First you started with a lie. You said that the oriki of Esu says that he shouldn’t devastate one but he should devastate another. That is a lie.

The oriki says , “ma se mi, elo mi ni ko se.” Literally in Yoruba that means don’t do me, do someone else.

‘Se mi’, ‘do me’ is very different from devastate me.
YET it is yhwh that claims to devastate people. And it is proud of the devastation it wreaks.

It is incredibly fascinating to see how yhwh’s victims often resort to projecting the vile character of themselves and their ghoul deity onto others.


YHWH boasts of lying and devastating people and yet you want to blame that on Esu.

MaxInDHouse:


When you talked about elephants were you referring to all elephants or you attributed what some did to quantify their specie globally? wink

I’m talking of the entire species of elephant. I’m sure some are more intelligent than others just as some humans are more intelligent than other humans.

It is demonstrable that there are many highly intelligent species which puts the lie to your claim that yhwh only created one intelligent specie. I’ll leave the lying bible out of this point though because at least this time your claim is not biblical.

To be continued

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Re: What Is Olorun? by Maynman: 4:03pm On Aug 28, 2022
May i not be a laughing stock like a Yaldaboath Worshipper.
May my Kids lives not Perish or Depend on Baldheads in watchtower.
It’s intriguing what Middle East gods can do to indoctrinated sheeps. cheesy

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Re: What Is Olorun? by PastorAIO: 4:08pm On Aug 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


JEHOVAH'S treatment of Egyptian and the way He brought the Israelites out of Egypt to walk on dry land through the red sea is enough warning message to all the Canaanites that the Almighty God is coming with the Israelites.
That's why Rahab of Jericho took side with JEHOVAH! Joshua 2:9-10

So He has sent a warning message ahead even a nation in Canaan used discernment to secure their own place they are called the Gibeonites! Joshua 9:3-21


Calm down and learn about the Holy One of Israel JEHOVAH!

So that was a warning. They were not even walking straight to Canaan according g to the bible but going round and round in circles for 40 years. Yęyę wanderers led by a yęyę yhwh.

What about the people that yhwh could not drive out because they had iron? Is yhwh that feeble that he cannot withstand iron? So Ogun is greater than yhwh.

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Re: What Is Olorun? by PastorAIO: 4:09pm On Aug 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Yes they can return for sure if JEHOVAH abandon His people! smiley

Return from where?

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Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:25pm On Aug 28, 2022
PastorAIO:

The oriki says , “ma se mi, elo mi ni ko se.” Literally in Yoruba that means don’t do me, do someone else.
Please what exactly do the worshipers mean by saying Èṣù shouldn't do them rather he should do someone else?
According to the worshipers of JEHOVAH none of them speak of JEHOVAH as if he shouldn't do them because they're confident that He is the best friend ever! smiley
PastorAIO:

I’m talking of the entire species of elephant. I’m sure some are more intelligent than others just as some humans are more intelligent than other humans.
Just point to one technological advancement of in the history of either elephant or dolphin! smiley

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Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:33pm On Aug 28, 2022
PastorAIO:

So that was a warning. They were not even walking straight to Canaan according g to the bible but going round and round in circles for 40 years. Yęyę wanderers led by a yęyę yhwh.
JEHOVAH said those among His people that failed to trust Him after all what He did in their eyes will not enter the land of Canaan {Numbers 14:28-30} so only Caleb and Joshua survived the journey because they fully trusted JEHOVAH!
Evidence that JEHOVAH is the true God!
PastorAIO:

What about the people that yhwh could not drive out because they had iron? Is yhwh that feeble that he cannot withstand iron? So Ogun is greater than yhwh.
No nation standing against the Israelites that were not driven out of Canaan, that's the more reason why all the surrounding nations hate the Israelites! wink

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Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:35pm On Aug 28, 2022
PastorAIO:

Return from where?
Wilderness after JEHOVAH drove them out of the promised land! smiley

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Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:48pm On Aug 28, 2022
Maynman:

May i not be a laughing stock like a Yaldaboath Worshipper.
May my Kids lives not Perish or Depend on Baldheads in watchtower.
It’s intriguing what Middle East gods can do to indoctrinated sheeps. cheesy

And may i not be a worshiper of a god whose worshipers can't agree on the same line of thought! Luke 11:23

Why not agree with your brother in faith first?

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Re: What Is Olorun? by Maynman: 7:52pm On Aug 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


And may i not be a worshiper of a god whose worshipers can't agree on the same line of thought! Luke 11:23

Why not agree with your brother in faith first?


Olorun is a god now?
MyYansh 22:2-2

When are you going to introduce the “8 holy baldheads” that your salvation depends on?

And besides the 8 holy bald heads don’t always agree on the same doctrine.

Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:03pm On Aug 28, 2022
Maynman:

Olorun is a god now?
When are you going to introduce the “8 holy baldheads” that your salvation depends on?

Try to agree with the other guy first, speak in harmony, that's what will make a right thinking individual see that you guys know what you're saying.
JEHOVAH the God of the Bible arranged for a small group of people to whom He handed over the government over His own worshipers {Luke 12:32} that's why you're so obsessed with their pictures as the whole world can SEE the one and only organization that's on the top {Isaiah 2:2 compare to Matthew 5:14-16} performing excellently!

So my future and that of my yet unborn generations i will entrust in the hands of this group that's performing excellently.
They have proved beyond reasonable doubt that the Almighty God is behind their work! Zechariah 8:23 wink

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Re: What Is Olorun? by Maynman: 8:08pm On Aug 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Try to agree with the other guy first, speak in harmony, that's what will make a right thinking individual see that you guys know what you're saying.
JEHOVAH the God of the Bible arranged for a small group of people to whom He handed over the government over His own worshipers {Luke 12:32} that's why you're so obsessed with their pictures as the whole world can SEE the one and only organization that's on the top {Isaiah 2:2 compare to Matthew 5:14-16} performing excellently!

So my future and that of my yet unborn generations i will entrust in the hands of this group that's performing excellently.
They have proved beyond reasonable doubt that the Almighty God is behind their work! Zechariah 8:23 wink

But your salvation depends on 8 baldsmen and without them you are ruined, is that what a right thinking person will do?
Your deity created humans then arranged for a small group that has had many FAILED PREDICTIONS? That’s the group that holds your destiny?
Yaldagarbage 23:3-4.

Will your kids salvation also depend on these 8 baldmens? Your kids will perish without these old men?
Jehodust 22:5 compare to yahwerey 54:3-4

The future of you and your kids rely solely on these 8 old men without them y’all will perish and Jesus Christ or is it angel michael can’t help you.

And the people that owns you were less than 8, now they are 8 and counting cheesy
Slave 23:4-10 cheesy


I can also quote Random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS

Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:16pm On Aug 28, 2022
Maynman:

But your salvation depends on 8 baldsmen and without them you are ruined, is that what a right thinking person will do?
Your deity created humans then arranged for a small group that has had many FAILED PREDICTIONS? That’s the group that holds your destiny?
Yaldagarbage 23:3-4.
Will your kids salvation also depend on these 8 baldmens? Your kids will perish without these old men?
Jehodust 22:5 compare to yahwerey 54:3-4
The future of you and your kids rely solely on these 8 old men without them y’all will perish and Jesus Christ or is it angel michael can’t help you.
And the people that owns you were less than 8, now they are 8 and counting cheesy

Over 8,000,000 people throughout the earth are in agreement with them as our God made us all to think alike {John 17:22} but just two of you on this forum it's obvious that there's no agreement as you guys can't conclude on what to say about your god! smiley

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Re: What Is Olorun? by Maynman: 8:18pm On Aug 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Over 8,000,000 people throughout the earth are in agreement with them as our God made us all to think alike {John 17:22} but just two of you on this forum it's obvious that there's no agreement as you guys can't conclude on what to say about your god! smiley


The reason your salvation depends on 8 baldmen is because “8,000,000” people also are doing it?
You and other “8,000,000” people will perish unless you submit to their authority, even jesus(angel michael) is under their authority according to watchtower cheesy

Even the 8 baldmen don’t agree on the same orders when given to discreet slaves
YaldaGarbage 17:69 cheesy

The baldmen that owns your destiny were less than 8 before, now they are 8 and counting. Bwahahahaha

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Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:53pm On Aug 28, 2022
Maynman:

The reason your salvation depends on 8 baldmen is because “8,000,000” people also are doing it?
Even the 8 baldmen don’t agree on the same orders when given to discreet slaves
YaldaGarbage 17:69 cheesy
The baldmen that owns your destiny were less than 8 before, now they are 8 and counting. Bwahahahaha

So by the end of the day you ended up having nothing to say about your god, even the other guy tried to focus on the topic of discussion.

Then why running up and down the forum arguing as if you have something tangible to say about a better god than what others worship?

Ọmọ try to remove the rafter in your eyes first before thinking of helping others to remove the spec in their eyes.

Goodbye! smiley

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Re: What Is Olorun? by Maynman: 8:57pm On Aug 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


So by the end of the day you ended up having nothing to say about your god, even the other guy tried to focus on the topic of discussion.

Then why running up and down the forum arguing as if you have something tangible to say about a better god than what others worship?

Ọmọ try to remove the rafter in your eyes first before thinking of helping others to remove the spec in their eyes.

Goodbye! smiley

So by the end of the day you are yet to introduce the 8 baldsmen that your salvation depends on?
You are still yet to explain, how “ruler of sky” is title but “ruler of ocean” is a demonic deity?

Then why are you hawking your 8 gods up and down having nothing to say about the 8 baldmens that owns your LIFE.

hypocrite, try to remove the log of wood in your eyes first before thinking of helping others to remove the spec in their eyes.
Yaldabusted 23:4- you will worship MORE BaldMen till you D I E!

Does your kids salvation also depend on these old men?
And not to forget, The baldmen that owns your destiny were less than 8 before, now they are 8 and counting. Bwahahahaha

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Re: What Is Olorun? by PastorAIO: 11:15pm On Sep 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Please what exactly do the worshipers mean by saying Èṣù shouldn't do them rather he should do someone else?
According to the worshipers of JEHOVAH none of them speak of JEHOVAH as if he shouldn't do them because they're confident that He is the best friend ever! smiley

You don't. have the mental. capacity to understand it. I could try. to explain but I doubt that you'll get it. If you want me to. try though, I. will.

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Re: What Is Olorun? by PastorAIO: 11:19pm On Sep 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Just point to one technological advancement of in the history of either elephant or dolphin! smiley

It appears you. don't. know what. Intelligence is. You. want me to show something like aeroplane or microwave oven as the only. demonstration of. intelligence. That would mean that you don't. think that. aborigine people in the. amazon forest are intelligent.

It actually quite sad. by. your own definition you are not intelligent because in all. likelihood you. have never made a technological. advance.

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Re: What Is Olorun? by budaatum: 1:16pm On Sep 10, 2022
PastorAIO:


You tell me the achievement of man that is so wonderful and I’ll see if I can’t name another species that can do it and even better.
I have one achievement of humans that is so wonderful that no other species can do it at all.

Writing the Bible. And for its wonderfulness, I present the number of years it has been in existence, and the generations of humans who have read it, and the fact that most of us discuss what is written in it more than any other book ever written, and many even believe what they read in it.

Name another species apart from humans that can write the Bible not to talk of better.

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Re: What Is Olorun? by PastorAIO: 2:48pm On Sep 10, 2022
budaatum:

I have one achievement of humans that is so wonderful that no other species can do it at all.

Writing the Bible. And for its wonderfulness, I present the number of years it has been in existence, and the generations of humans who have read it, and the fact that most of us discuss what is written in it more than any other book ever written, and many even believe what they read in it.

Name another species apart from humans that can write the Bible not to talk of better.

You got me there Buddha

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Re: What Is Olorun? by budaatum: 2:49pm On Sep 10, 2022
PastorAIO:


You got me there Buddha

I try hard Pastor.
Re: What Is Olorun? by PastorAIO: 2:53pm On Sep 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


And may i not be a worshiper of a god whose worshipers can't agree on the same line of thought! Luke 11:23

Why not agree with your brother in faith first?


You and your strawmen. Do you even know what I worship?

Just projecting the poo in your soul. Did your cult not start because you could not agree with Seventh Day Adventist?

Remind me how many different sects and cults claiming to be the true worshippers of your ghoul there are.
Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:01pm On Sep 10, 2022
PastorAIO:

You don't. have the mental. capacity to understand it. I could try. to explain but I doubt that you'll get it. If you want me to. try though, I. will.

So what is the difference between you and the churchgoer who say listeners need some kind of spirit before they can understand his explanation? cheesy

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Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:04pm On Sep 10, 2022
PastorAIO:

It appears you. don't. know what. Intelligence is. You. want me to show something like aeroplane or microwave oven as the only. demonstration of. intelligence. That would mean that you don't. think that. aborigine people in the. amazon forest are intelligent.
It actually quite sad. by. your own definition you are not intelligent because in all. likelihood you. have never made a technological. advance.

You complicate issues for yourself when trying to separate man from man!

Whatever advancement in technology on this planet comes from just one specie: humans! wink

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Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:06pm On Sep 10, 2022
PastorAIO:

You and your strawmen. Do you even know what I worship? Just projecting the poo in your soul. Did your cult not start because you could not agree with Seventh Day Adventist?
Remind me how many different sects and cults claiming to be the true worshippers of your ghoul there are.

Whatever makes you and i disagree on terms and conditions of worship simply means the spirit beings we worship differs.
So use the same logic for all religions! wink
Re: What Is Olorun? by PastorAIO: 11:32am On Sep 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


So what is the difference between you and the churchgoer who say listeners need some kind of spirit before they can understand his explanation? cheesy

The difference is that I am not saying that you need 'some kind of spirit'. You just need common intelligence yet I fear that your capacity in this vein is too limited to understand.

Yet for those who may grasp. We all know that the human mind is filled with all manner of conceits. Yet Esu is a deity of Truth and Justice. He therefore confounds those conceits that we hold dear. The experience of having your beliefs confounded is traumatic and most people cannot cope with it. It is for this reason that Esu is feared. Truth is too harsh.

There is the story of the two fast friends that everyone said were inseparable. Esu put this to the test. One day he walked between the two of them wearing a suit that was red on one said and black on the other. Both friends saw him and started to talk about him. "Did you see that guy in a red. suit?"
"Don't you mean the guy in a black suit"
|"no it was red"
"it was black"
"are you mad, or blind"
"how dare you call me blind, you're the one who is blind"
Then came a punch, answered with a kick, then full blown gidigbo.
Esu then returned to stop the fight and explained to them the power of perspective. Everybody is stuck in a perspective. From your angle you can see Esu and see a black suit, from another angle someone else will see a red suit. They are both correct from their perspectives yet they do not know the absolute truth.

This is the case with all of us about our thoughts and beliefs on everything. the human mind cannot grasp absolute truth because we are limited to a perspective. Those ideologies, theologies, doctrines, theories, cosmologies etc etc that we hold so dear and foolishly think makes us knowledgeable are not the truth and one day they will all fall to dust. Esu is the one that will destroy all those comforting doctrines that you cherish.
Re: What Is Olorun? by PastorAIO: 11:36am On Sep 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Whatever makes you and i disagree on terms and conditions of worship simply means the spirit beings we worship differs.
So use the same logic for all religions! wink

It's not always the terms and conditions of worship that determine what is being worshipped. After all Jesus said to the samaritan woman who worshipped, not in the temple but, on the mountain that they worshipped the same thing but the jews knew while the samaritans didn't know.

I'm sure your ghoul will accept all manner of misguided worship from as many victims as it can ensnare.
Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:54am On Sep 15, 2022
PastorAIO:


The difference is that I am not saying that you need 'some kind of spirit'. You just need common intelligence yet I fear that your capacity in this vein is too limited to understand.

Yet for those who may grasp. We all know that the human mind is filled with all manner of conceits. Yet Esu is a deity of Truth and Justice. He therefore confounds those conceits that we hold dear. The experience of having your beliefs confounded is traumatic and most people cannot cope with it. It is for this reason that Esu is feared. Truth is too harsh.

There is the story of the two fast friends that everyone said were inseparable. Esu put this to the test. One day he walked between the two of them wearing a suit that was red on one said and black on the other. Both friends saw him and started to talk about him. "Did you see that guy in a red. suit?"
"Don't you mean the guy in a black suit"
|"no it was red"
"it was black"
"are you mad, or blind"
"how dare you call me blind, you're the one who is blind"
Then came a punch, answered with a kick, then full blown gidigbo.
Esu then returned to stop the fight and explained to them the power of perspective. Everybody is stuck in a perspective. From your angle you can see Esu and see a black suit, from another angle someone else will see a red suit. They are both correct from their perspectives yet they do not know the absolute truth.

This is the case with all of us about our thoughts and beliefs on everything. the human mind cannot grasp absolute truth because we are limited to a perspective. Those ideologies, theologies, doctrines, theories, cosmologies etc etc that we hold so dear and foolishly think makes us knowledgeable are not the truth and one day they will all fall to dust. Esu is the one that will destroy all those comforting doctrines that you cherish.


In other words all the billions of people who don't agree with you do not have this so called "common intelligence" then what makes it common? smiley

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Re: What Is Olorun? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:58am On Sep 15, 2022
PastorAIO:

It's not always the terms and conditions of worship that determine what is being worshipped. After all Jesus said to the samaritan woman who worshipped, not in the temple but, on the mountain that they worshipped the same thing but the jews knew while the samaritans didn't know.
I'm sure your ghoul will accept all manner of misguided worship from as many victims as it can ensnare.

You don't have to decide what my faith tolerate all you need is ask and you will receive! Matthew 7:7

Whatever makes you and i disagree on terms and conditions in worship it simply means we're not worshiping the same God. That's what Jesus told the Samaritan woman who thought Jews and Samaritans are worshiping the same God simply because they were all descendants of Jacob (Israel) wink

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