LiberaDeus:
This is why I feel we freethinkers should be more outspoken about our beliefs. There are so many theists with our reasoning abilities but these abilities are never tested because they never see an alternate worldview so they go on as if Christianity is the best life can offer.

For anyone who wishes to know me well. I will always state my non adherence to religion to that person even though I might be ridiculed or ostracized but I know that the greater good will be achieved. I might not announce it with a trumpet but every of my close friend or acquaintances will eventually know that am not a christian or Muslim.

analice107:

Stop deceiving yourself, you never had Jesus, you had Catholicism. Christ never lost you to satan, you belonged to him from the start. You don't lose what you never had. Wake up from you dream.

obinna58:


This got me laughing, I can bet u might not be as pure as I am when still fooling myself with religion

analice107:

Stop deceiving yourself, you never had Jesus, you had Catholicism. Christ never lost you to satan, you belonged to him from the start. You don't lose what you never had. Wake up from you dream.

analice107:

Lol @ how you think or compare purity.

Obinna, Go get really saved then backslide to say all these, then I'll take you seriously.

You were in Catholic Church worshipping Mary and all of other demonic images called saints, yet you come here talking trash.


Have a one on one relationship with Christ, be able to meditate on the word until Ryhma is given to you by the Holy Spirit then turn to an atheist, then and only then, i will take you serious.

Let me give you guides that proves you were indeed saved by Jesus.

Hebrews:6:4
1. For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost.

Obinna58, What does it mean to Taste the Heavenly Gifts?

What does it mean to partake of the Holy Spirit?

Hebrews:6:5
And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Obinna58, What are the Powers of the World to come? And, as a christian that you were, did you taste of these powers?


Let me leave you with this few.
Now tell me how you experienced all the above as a Christian that you were.

Explain in details what they mean and your experiences.

analice107:

Am surprised you insist on scorning God. Hmmm. You may not get another warning.

Satan is deceiving you and you are forming tough, when the heat comes, only you will feel it.

obinna58:

Sorry no catholic will agree with u to the side of worshipping Mary and all of other demonic images called saints, the statue u see in catholic churches are just meant for remembrance, though people might worship it unknowingly, they are those who don't really understand ways of worshipping or real meaning of the statue,
I'm not suppose to go this length with u but just that sometimes I do visit catholic church just to see the fraud presented by the Europeans to us,
Maybe u should forget about having this kind of religious thought and come on with me so we could have a cool thought about how god messed up bible stories, how religion fooled the world etc

analice107:

So, now you have admitted to never being a Catholic nor a Christian? On what bases then do you stand to make the claims you made in your Op?

analice107:

So, now you have admitted to never being a Catholic nor a Christian? On what bases then do you stand to make the claims you made in your Op?

hopefulLandlord:


where dafuq did he admit such

analice107:

Did you read his response to me? He said and i quote, "I'm not suppose to go this length with u but just that sometimes I do visit catholic church just to see the fraud presented by the Europeans to us". end of quote.

He only visited the Catholic church, the place he was born into according to his Op.

Biko gawa.

obinna58:

Ana please I just av a question for u

analice107:

You shd ask yourself that question.

You came up talking stupid without an iota of what you are saying. You have been a Child of satan from day one, anyways, you know it's only atheists you can fool.

You know absolutely nothing about being a Christian.
Why will you come messing yourself up here if your brain is not paining you?

U know so well, that even in your immediate Catholic family, your becoming an atheist is not felt by any.

The only place you find relevance is here, outside of here, you are as irrelevant as a skunk to the other animals.

Who ypur atheism epp?

gerrarahia.

obinna58:

What u felt like hehehe, no wonder u weren't able to understand the fraudulent of religion, meet with series of your kind, first they would present jesus, but once they felt like u making them think, they ran off

analice107:

Obinna58, What do you know about Christ or Christianity?

I asked you questions, you evaded them. It's only a fool who will show up in public insulting what he knows nothing of.

You clam to have gotten enlightenment haven been a Christian before, answer my questions or forever be shamed.

obinna58:

I wouldn't av wasted time going into spiritual bulshit thoughts with u if I was still a religionist, now that would gain me nothing rather than trying to satisty ur religious mind, meanwhile I could have argue more with u based on catholism, but letting everything slide down cos they are all bulshit!!!

Have a wonderful day

analice107:

Keep quiet. Hopefullandlord see your brother. Liar like his father.

You clapped for him, believing he indeed dumped Jesus. lol. It would have been great if he was indeed a christian who fell out your applauds would ve made sense. Alas, he is a fraud.

Satanists.

analice107:

Did you read his response to me? He said and i quote, "I'm not suppose to go this length with u but just that sometimes I do visit catholic church just to see the fraud presented by the Europeans to us". end of quote.

He only visited the Catholic church, the place he was born into according to his Op.

Biko gawa.

Deicide:
You have a problem, The habit of misinterpreting people statement

obinna58:


Why do u so much wished I was a fraud, just like a guy at the first page saying I was one of the multiple alternate monikers of the few atheists

analice107:

I will indeed have a problem if i take you seriously.

analice107:


You were a Christian right? Answer the questions i asked.

romme2u:


It does not seem like a force, THERE ARE FORCES DRIVING THE MULTIVERSE. the verse we exist is not uni but multi. There are dimensions our senses (our antennas) cannot detect because of its limited range.

Our ears detect vibrations at certain range of frequencies and our eyes detect vibrations at another range of frequencies. Even our brains work at certain frequencies which are yet to be discovered.

Mankind is seeking to connect with this forces controlling the multiverse and work its way to the ultimate force where we can reconnect back to our source of power that transcend the physical realm (dimension).

obinna58:
analice107
I will never promote unexisting being, I will never partake in religious "scam"

obinna58:

That was then, ur question is based on spiritual thought which I would tagg "crazy"
Just like me seriously asking u to tell me how stupid ur God is
If u can't understand this, then I don't know how I could explain better to u

analice107:

lol, what a child.

obinna58:

Stop showing the extent of your ignorance, learn to keep quiet when u really don't have anything to say, calling someone a child doesn't take away the fact that u are violently religious, lack understanding, and frequently misuses words.

analice107:

You now have resorted to insulting your mother since you can't cover your lies abi?

I asked you questions, you couldn't have forgotten everything about the Christianity you profess just how many years ago.

Go ahead insult me, with that the world will know what stuff you are really made up of.

CHARLOE:

Plz expantiate

Wilgrea7:
I don't seem to be able to find this road to atheism... i don't know if there's any procedure to being agnostic or being an atheist...

OP nice story by the way... i enjoyed reading it... mine is similar... nl atheists and deists did play some role in my life..

i was not born a Christian but at 4-5 i started going to church cuz that's when my parents converted

i was indoctrinated into the system... i believed all and never dared to question.. little by little i was swallowed up in ignorance and dogmatism... until a day when i was researching about tithes then i stumbled on nl.... i read comments and was amazed by the knowledge of people here... i was not yet a member but i was a constant “visitor" of the religious section.. i saw atheists like hopefullandlord... i found SOME of his arguments interesting and logical... i saw pastor aio.... i didn't know he was a pantheist sef... but he made some very logical points in his arguments.. i saw winner 01 and Kingebuka and how they made atheists cry... i saw frosbel... i still regard him as the hero of my faith because he once talked about finding out things for yourself....

but before i saw all these people... i saw otem... his doctrine hit me like a bomb... i began to question and reject a lot of things... i didn't see much theists battle him and i assumed they didn't because they couldn't... so later on i decided to go on research.. mostly because of otemanuduno.... i did one hell of a research on so many things... i regained my faith cuz i found the truth in so many things and i questioned his doctrine as much as i questioned my bible but i also gained logic.... i tried to be unbiased in my research and i discovered a lot of truths and discarded lies. my best friend (agnostic) told me i was becoming an atheist.. i laughed cuz it was possible before but its impossible now... so later on i joined nl to battle the doctrine that once killed my faith.... and from there... my journey began...

so i don't know which step i missed that would've led me to atheism

This life sef. Wilgrea7 take a look at this