abduleez1:


Boss, where you dey see these films download? I've always wanted to see more international movies but the means to no dey forthcoming. Na only Korea and India we dey see promotion for.

Man... Herculean task o because of Iran's strained relationship with the west, thier movies are hardly distributed outside.

But Pahe has a good number of them if you search carefully.

One thing I don't like about Hollywood is this franchise model.
It does have its advantages in that it is sustainable for a long period

But my issue is that it affects creativity...
One person may write a movie/ series...
Another person writes part 2 or season 2
Another person may write season 3

Because of this, one person's idea of the plot direction may be different from another.
If writer A is foreshadowing something, writer B can completely ignore it and it goes nowhere

Anyone who knows me well knows how much I love stories that are planned from start to finish. Nothing amazes me more than knowing all seasons of a show were planned from the start and I can see how well planned it was with all the foreshadowing and all.

But is this even possible in Hollywood today where they know the show may be cancelled tomorrow?
Or where the writers may be changed randomly?

I think the only exceptions to this in Hollywood today are some book adaptations

That's why I tend to avoid some shows that I feel may be cancelled randomly.
And I hate shows like Blacklist or Flash that go with this anyhow-belle-face plot.
No direction, no planning, the plot is just moving as it likes cos they know it could be cancelled anytime.

pu7pl3:


Please recommend one recent one for me make I sample am.

"A Hero" (2021)

oyaskii:
Man... Herculean task o because of Iran's strained relationship with the west, thier movies are hardly distributed outside.

But Pahe has a good number of them if you search carefully.

The main reason why I was shocked with the Iranian rating was the academy nominations I saw. I still dey wonder how Hollywood allow Iran to participate in its prestigious ceremonies.

Hope dey for North Korea be that.
At least make we know another thing they are good at asides from launching missiles and boisterous military parade.

IngeniousLeez:


I pray make I no chop ban sha.
Bollywood don tire me and I have washed my hand off that industry for the past 2 yrs. Na this RRR wey I see for Best Foreign Film and Lagaan wey them dey hype wan make me sample am back.

Korea and Japan have actively taken that spot for my foreign language itch.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/12-countries-produce-best-movies-145831899.html?guccounter=1

Bollywood butchered their industry with nepotism. And after the class of the 90s/early 2000s (Hrithik Roshan and Kareena Kapoor's set), they haven't really grown new mega stars. The best person they have to offer on blockbusters currently is Tiger Schroff and he's mid asf.

oyaskii:
The reviews for "The Witcher: Blood origin" are so so gutter. Netflix has terribly handled this adaptation.

Still going to watch it. Can't really trust reviews on this considering the switch after Cavill's departure.

itspreshh:
One thing I don't like about Hollywood is this franchise model.
It does have its advantages in that it is sustainable for a long period

But my issue is that it affects creativity...
One person may write a movie/ series...
Another person writes part 2 or season 2
Another person may write season 3

Because of this, one person's idea of the plot direction may be different from another.
If writer A is foreshadowing something, writer B can completely ignore it and it goes nowhere

Anyone who knows me well knows how much I love stories that are planned from start to finish. Nothing amazes me more than knowing all seasons of a show were planned from the start and I can see how well planned it was with all the foreshadowing and all.

But is this even possible in Hollywood today where they know the show may be cancelled tomorrow?
Or where the writers may be changed randomly?

I think the only exceptions to this in Hollywood today are some book adaptations

That's why I tend to avoid some shows that I feel may be cancelled randomly.
And I hate shows like Blacklist or Flash that go with this anyhow-belle-face plot.
No direction, no planning, the plot is just moving as it likes cos they know it could be cancelled anytime.

All these ones wey u dey yarn na Shalaye Pro Max...


Hollywood this, Hollywood that.... You go dey complain everyday yet you still dey watch.
Hollywood has hacked the movie business and it's come to be successful.

Even Asians now know the power of franchises. For all the noise and hate people seem to say about franchise films online, the REALITY is people are easily going to watch and pick a franchise film over an original film anyday anytime. Things has evolved. The biggest grossers globally are tied to franchises except for a few old movies like Titanic (which can be argued is an adaptation).

Even Japan's heavy hitters at the box office are becoming dominated by adapted franchises ie. Jujutsu Kaisen 0, One Piece: Red, Demon Slayer etc..

So you wan tell me say majority of Hollywood series no get planning or direction??


You never know Wetin dey do you. Just dey nitpick and cap Nonsense.

You are yet to drop the series or movies of Korea that are top tier heads and shoulder "planned from beginning" that are better than Hollywood o.
I'm waiting.
Drop 1 from any Asian Industry and I'll give you 5 from Hollywood. I dey wait.

SOZINN:




Bro can you please just give me a brief explanation of beth and rips relationship. Would you say they are the perfect match or is rip suffering abuse?
Thanks
I want to confirm something.

Well i think Rip and Beth are the same people with the same personality and that's why they deserves each other.
You know Rip is very very hot tempered especially when it comes to Beth and Beth too is very very hot tempered too especially when it comes to Rip.
They both have been in love right from a very young age, beth has never known any other man in her life apart from rip and so the same goes for Rip.

Rip is loyal to Beth and her dad.
Beth is loyal to Rip and her dad.
So i will say they both perfectly deserves each and rip isn't suffering abuse at all, because he knows beth will go to hell and back for him which no woman at there can do for him and yes beth can be a bitttch sometimes but one thing you can't take from her is that she will die and take a bullet for those she loves and that's one of the things that Rip admires about her.

Remember!! The devil you know, is better than the Angel you don't know.

Kaycee7:
Bollywood butchered their industry with nepotism. And after the class of the 90s/early 2000s (Hrithik Roshan and Kareena Kapoor's set), they haven't really grown new mega stars. The best person they have to offer on blockbusters currently is Tiger Schroff and he's mid asf.

I dey tell you.
Nothing new... No new flavor from Bollywood.
Na just Shah Rukh Khan dem dey shout always.
Hollywood has scores of actors in their prime that one can call upon.

The one that needs to be discussed is Hong Kong or China wood. Cos I no understand how that industry take just jazz down fiam just like that. Wetin Naija dey craze for for how many years and generations. Since dem Jet Li and Jackie Chan era, na Donnie Yen dem don produce since and the IP Man franchise. The only export na Michelle Yeoh and yet na Malaysian.

Asides that, na nothingness. Imperial and nationalistic China don finish that industry.

Frostyzone:
If you loved Dark and need something with similar vibe, watch these 3 shows, they are fantastic. Mindfvcks but in a good way.

The Devil's Hour, Shining Girls, and The Peripheral.

Shining girls 9.5/10
Beautifully written show and a pretty good ending.
Definitely one of the best shows I've seen this year.

The peripheral next.

abduleez1:



All these ones wey u dey yarn na Shalaye Pro Max...


Hollywood this, Hollywood that.... You go dey complain everyday yet you still dey watch.
Hollywood has hacked the movie business and it's come to be successful.

Even Asians now know the power of franchises. For all the noise and hate people seem to say about franchise films online, the REALITY is people are easily going to watch and pick a franchise film over an original film anyday anytime. Things has evolved. The biggest grossers globally are tied to franchises except for a few old movies like Titanic (which can be argued is an adaptation).

Even Japan's heavy hitters at the box office are becoming dominated by adapted franchises ie. Jujutsu Kaisen 0, One Piece: Red, Demon Slayer etc..

So you wan tell me say majority of Hollywood series no get planning or direction??


You never know Wetin dey do you. Just dey nitpick and cap Nonsense.

You are yet to drop the series or movies of Korea that are top tier heads and shoulder "planned from beginning" that are better than Hollywood o.
I'm waiting.
Drop 1 from any Asian Industry and I'll give you 5 from Hollywood. I dey wait.

I'm not denying the power of franchises...my first line stated it's pros...also just like you said, most people would choose a familiar name over an unfamiliar one

These japanese movies you mentioned, are movies from airing series. The series itself mostly don't follow the Hollywood franchise model. Demon Slayer, Jujutsu Kaisen and One Piece you mentioned are not following the model...
They have a beginning and have an end and are not perpetual like the Hollywood model


And what I mean by planning is a show being planned from beginning to the end by a writer.
Are there Hollywood series that have this?...yes...but most are adaptations of books or games

There are tons without it, which are mostly original series. In fact over 90% of original series.

By itself it's not bad to write each season separately considering the show can get cancelled anytime.
As long as the writing remains consistently good, it's not a bad thing to plan each season on its own.
Shows like 24 don't even hide it

But some shows suffer from this like the ones I listed.

And even when it doesn't, I stated I have personal preference to those that are well planned from beginning to end. The reason is I don't like being taken for a ride like what Blacklist did to me.

For the Korean movies. I personally don't have many off-hand since I watched a ton during lockdown in 2020, and I don't cram names of many movies Hollywood or Korean.

But I do remember some of the very good ones I watched, most of which are recent movies:

No sympathy for Mr Vengeance
Oldboy
Lady Vengeance
Burning
The Throne
The Handmaiden
Decision to Leave
Assassination
Memories of Murder
Along with the Gods
Masquerade
The Last Princess
No Tears for the Dead
71: Into the Fire
Tazza
The Age of Shadows
The Thieves
The Villainess
The Berlin File
Steel Rain
Night in Paradise


I had to check my old phone and it's bookmarked history to find some of these and I'm sure I didn't find up to 20% of them

Most of these are recent movies. I watched a ton of Korean movies early 2020 and that's when I started respecting their industry. I'm sure I watched like a 100 of them at that time.

There are still some I can vaguely recall but I can't remember their names

For Korean shows?
I barely watch them. I only watched about 6 of them in a row when Squid Game came out...

Since that period I've only seen like 3 more in over a year

Kaycee7:
Still going to watch it. Can't really trust reviews on this considering the switch after Cavill's departure.

Same chief. it's not like i am particularly spoiled for choice on good contents lately and it's an easy binge at 4 episodes.

@ kaycee7

The concepts of Izanagi and Izanami is still confusing some Naruto fans in 2022...

If I recall correctly, the Uchiha clan could perfrom Izanagi without Senju cells

Izanagi is based on the technique called The Creation of All Things. Just like it, Izanagi turns imagination into reality.

An Imperfect Izanagi is what the Uchiha do without Senju cells. Even with Senju Cells, Danzo didn't perfect it

Obito on the other hand could use the Izanagi for 10 minutes against Konan...and I believe he was able to use a part of the Creation of All Things Jutsu

itspreshh:
@ kaycee7

The concepts of Izanagi and Izanami is still confusing some Naruto fans in 2022...

If I recall correctly, the Uchiha clan could perfrom Izanagi without Senju cells

Izanagi is based on the technique called The Creation of All Things. Just like it, Izanagi turns imagination into reality.

An Imperfect Izanagi is what the Uchiha do without Senju cells. Even with Senju Cells, Danzo didn't perfect it

Obito on the other hand could use the Izanagi for 10 minutes against Konan...and I believe he was able to use a part of the Creation of All Things Jutsu

for me, Izanagi is not even complex...na Izanami that's complex

itspreshh:
I'm not denying the power of franchises...my first line stated it's pros...also just like you said, most people would choose a familiar name over an unfamiliar one

These japanese movies you mentioned, are movies from airing series. The series itself mostly don't follow the Hollywood franchise model. Demon Slayer, Jujutsu Kaisen and One Piece you mentioned are not following the model...
They have a beginning and have an end and are not perpetual like the Hollywood model


And what I mean by planning is a show being planned from beginning to the end by a writer.
Are there Hollywood series that have this?...yes...but most are adaptations of books or games

There are tons without it, which are mostly original series. In fact over 90% of original series.

By itself it's not bad to write each season separately considering the show can get cancelled anytime.
As long as the writing remains consistently good, it's not a bad thing to plan each season on its own.
Shows like 24 don't even hide it

But some shows suffer from this like the ones I listed.

And even when it doesn't, I stated I have personal preference to those that are well planned from beginning to end. The reason is I don't like being taken for a ride like what Blacklist did to me.

For the Korean movies. I personally don't have many off-hand since I watched a ton during lockdown in 2020, and I don't cram names of many movies Hollywood or Korean.

But I do remember some of the very good ones I watched, most of which are recent movies:

No sympathy for Mr Vengeance
Oldboy
Lady Vengeance
Burning
The Throne
The Handmaiden
Decision to Leave
Assassination
Memories of Murder
Along with the Gods
Masquerade
The Last Princess
No Tears for the Dead
71: Into the Fire
Tazza
The Age of Shadows
The Thieves
The Villainess
The Berlin File
Steel Rain
Night in Paradise


I had to check my old phone and it's bookmarked history to find some of these and I'm sure I didn't find up to 20% of them

Most of these are recent movies. I watched a ton of Korean movies early 2020 and that's when I started respecting their industry. I'm sure I watched like a 100 of them at that time.

There are still some I can vaguely recall but I can't remember their names

These shows you talking about are still part of a franchise. They are not original content as they are adapted from an already standing TV series or even manga. So yeah, they're franchise movies.

Which one is they have a beginning and have an end. Have any of the movies or TV shows I mentioned end? Aren't they ongoing. Abi Naruto, One Piece etc don ease since how many years.

Most of these Korean movies you watch are mostly their best films they have to offer.
You watch them and start thinking ALL or MOST of their content are the same. Most of the Korean movies available for download online are mostly their acclaimed movies. I don't think if you watch the length and breadth of their content you'd be capping this much.

Even at that when you talk of top of the line writing, acting and directing, Hollywood comes out tops by a mile both in quality and quantity.

The number of great Hollywood films are way numerous than these few movies handpicked from various years of Korean cinema.
When you're done, now start dropping top tier Korean TV shows cos this is a TV section. That's when you'd see the gap between both industries.

Inception
The Wolf of Wall Street
Vice
Apocalypto
The Irishman
Once Upon a Time In Hollywood
Atomic Blonde
Se7en
Interstellar
Black Hawk Down
13 Hours
Inglorious Basterds
Django Unchained
Whiplash
The Revenant
The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo
The Hateful Eight
Gladiator
1917
Dunkirk
12 Years a Slave
Gone Girl
A Quiet Place
The Imitation game
Bird Box
The Conjuring 1&2
Bohemian Rhapsody
V for Vendetta
300
Troy
Get Out
It
It Follows
Hereditary
The Hurt Locker
Zero Dark Thirty
American Sniper
Mad Max: Fury Road
The Machinist
Promising Young Woman
Bladerunner 2049
Midsommar
Everything Everywhere All At Once
X


Almost all of These I've watched...
I still maintain, no other industry matches Hollywood both in quality and quantity. The genres are so diverse.
Note how almost everything aren't franchise movies as you so love to talk about.

abduleez1:


These shows you talking about are still part of a franchise. They are not original content as they are adapted from an already standing TV series or even manga. So yeah, they're franchise movies.

Which one is they have a beginning and have an end. Have any of the movies or TV shows I mentioned end? Aren't they ongoing. Abi Naruto, One Piece etc don ease since how many years.

Most of these Korean movies you watch are mostly their best films they have to offer.
You watch them and start thinking ALL or MOST of their content are the same. Most of the Korean movies available for download online are mostly their acclaimed movies. I don't think if you watch the length and breadth of their content you'd be capping this much.

Even at that when you talk of top of the line writing, acting and directing, Hollywood comes out tops by a mile both in quality and quantity.

The number of great Hollywood films are way numerous than these few movies handpicked from various years of Korean cinema.
When you're done, now start dropping top tier Korean TV shows cos this is a TV section. That's when you'd see the gap between both industries.

Inception
The Wolf of Wall Street
Vice
Apocalypto
The Irishman
Once Upon a Time In Hollywood
Atomic Blonde
Se7en
Interstellar
Black Hawk Down
13 Hours
Inglorious Basterds
Django Unchained
Whiplash
The Revenant
The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo
The Hateful Eight
Gladiator
1917
Dunkirk
12 Years a Slave
Gone Girl
A Quiet Place
The Imitation game
Bird Box
The Conjuring 1&2
Bohemian Rhapsody
V for Vendetta
300
Troy
Get Out
It
It Follows
Hereditary
The Hurt Locker
Zero Dark Thirty
American Sniper
Mad Max: Fury Road
The Machinist
Promising Young Woman
Bladerunner 2049
Midsommar
Everything Everywhere All At Once
X


Almost all of These I've watched...
I still maintain, no other industry matches Hollywood both in quality and quantity. The genres are so diverse.
Note how almost everything aren't franchise movies as you so love to talk about.

again I've made the same point you made before...
About how Korea has thousands of crap no one has heard of. Most of those aren't even subbed.

I've stated here how 99% (exaggerated figure) of everything is trash, both Hollywood and korean

And I also admitted Hollywood is still above all others and stated language barrier as one of the primary reasons. This is because the production quality of most of these movies are lower since they don't generate much internationally.

Hollywood on the other hand has been selling globally for decades and as such more higher quality movies can be produced en masse

Basically, Hollywood is bigger, has more reach, more funds to create more movies etc

Go and see slightly old low budget Korean movies, they are shot with such poor camera quality

itspreshh:
again I've made the same point you made before...
About how Korea has thousands of crap no one has heard of. Most of those aren't even subbed.

I've stated here how 99% (exaggerated figure) of everything is trash, both Hollywood and korean

And I also admitted Hollywood is still above all others and stated language barrier as one of the primary reasons. This is because the production quality of most of these movies are lower since they don't generate much internationally.

Hollywood on the other hand has been selling globally for decades and as such more higher quality movies can be produced en masse

Basically, Hollywood is bigger, has more reach, more funds to create more movies etc

Go and see slightly old low budget Korean movies, they are shot with such poor camera quality

Camera quality no be wetin I wan watch. So far plot quality, acting and delivery is great no problem.
As far as no be camera wey be like say na Camrip I dey watch no lele.

I just wan clear you, no dey compare Hollywood with anybody. Them no be mate.

abduleez1:


Camera quality no be wetin I wan watch. So far plot quality, acting and delivery is great no problem.
As far as no be camera wey be like say na Camrip I dey watch no lele.

I just wan clear you, no dey compare Hollywood with anybody. Them no be mate.

even my initial post didn't doubt the fact that Hollywood is the best

My issue was with sequels and reboots and also cancellation of series

itspreshh:
even my initial post didn't doubt the fact that Hollywood is the best

My issue was with sequels and reboots and also cancellation of series

Sequels and reboots is part of the game. A money maker and part of the business.
Enough with these Sequels and this complaints.
The great movies devoid of franchise film tropes are there for you to watch. It's not that they're not there to see. Na you no gree find am.
Na you wan dey watch blockbusters!! And Hollywood didn't disappoint.

These are top tier movies in the past 5 yrs that I never see you mention but always complain of the big budget movies.


The cancellations you're talking about are for mostly ailing TV shows with poor viewership numbers as well as not quite popular series that aren't even great watch in the first place.


If I ask you make you list the TV shows wey you dey complain of cancellations na... You no fit name pass Flash, CW titles and the likes.

abduleez1:


I dey tell you.
Nothing new... No new flavor from Bollywood.
Na just Shah Rukh Khan dem dey shout always.
Hollywood has scores of actors in their prime that one can call upon.

The one that needs to be discussed is Hong Kong or China wood. Cos I no understand how that industry take just jazz down fiam just like that. Wetin Naija dey craze for for how many years and generations. Since dem Jet Li and Jackie Chan era, na Donnie Yen dem don produce since and the IP Man franchise. The only export na Michelle Yeoh and yet na Malaysian.

Asides that, na nothingness. Imperial and nationalistic China don finish that industry.

They seem to be having the same problem with Bollywood. No new breakout star. Old men and women still headlining their box office.
They should sha take notes from Korea. Small boys don dey take over from Lee Min-Ho.

Kaycee7:
They seem to be having the same problem with Bollywood. No new breakout star. Old men and women still headlining their box office.
They should sha take notes from Korea. Small boys don dey take over from Lee Min-Ho.

the likes of Lee Min Ho were big in Korean series but rarely acted in their movies tho...

Lee-Min-Ho and his fellow pink lips men rarely acted Korean movies...
Their movies were dominated by older and more competent actors for complex roles

Just pointing that out

itspreshh:
@ kaycee7

The concepts of Izanagi and Izanami is still confusing some Naruto fans in 2022...

If I recall correctly, the Uchiha clan could perfrom Izanagi without Senju cells

Izanagi is based on the technique called The Creation of All Things. Just like it, Izanagi turns imagination into reality.

An Imperfect Izanagi is what the Uchiha do without Senju cells. Even with Senju Cells, Danzo didn't perfect it

Obito on the other hand could use the Izanagi for 10 minutes against Konan...and I believe he was able to use a part of the Creation of All Things Jutsu

Na una still dey discuss Naruto for 2022.

Kaycee7:
They seem to be having the same problem with Bollywood. No new breakout star. Old men and women still headlining their box office.
They should sha take notes from Korea. Small boys don dey take over from Lee Min-Ho.

Funny enough the same problems is also plaguing Nollywood. There's no top tier very popular movie without seeing a host of oldies gracing it even tho you see youngies here and there.

That Lee Min Ho sef I no know am before. Na Pachinko make me Sabi am sef. I reach Film Twitter come shock as fans dey Stan am.

Na mainly those their girlie romance TV shows na im the guy grow from.

Kaycee7:
Na una still dey discuss Naruto for 2022.

it's a timeless show so of course people still discuss it

Just cos Boruto is spoiling it's legacy doesn't mean it should be forgotten

And Naruto ended 2015...I'm sure there are older animated shows still being discussed

abduleez1:


Funny enough the same problems is also plaguing Nollywood. There's no top tier very popular movie without seeing a host of oldies gracing it even tho you see youngies here and there.

That Lee Min Ho sef I no know am before. Na Pachinko make me Sabi am sef. I reach Film Twitter come shock as fans dey Stan am.

Na mainly those their girlie romance TV shows na im the guy grow from.

you didn't watch those old Korean series if you don't know Lee-Min-Ho or that dude that acted Jumong

Jumong was peak that year sha...
I still miss those medieval Korean war shows...
They were so good back then

abduleez1:


Funny enough the same problems is also plaguing Nollywood. There's no top tier very popular movie without seeing a host of oldies gracing it even tho you see youngies here and there.

That Lee Min Ho sef I no know am before. Na Pachinko make me Sabi am sef. I reach Film Twitter come shock as fans dey Stan am.

Na mainly those their girlie romance TV shows na im the guy grow from.

Ah! Na im be say Lee no thief your girlfriend back in the day

Before BTS boys na the homie dey tension us that year.

Can't even recognize the dude in a pic but we all knew the name. He was big in the early 2010s.

The Recruit 9/10

By 9/10, I mean my rating.

Netflix didn't disappoint me with this. Maybe I found it interesting before I saw it but I can testify that it was worth the time. It added this fun side of the CIA I never could imagine. Though I'm still excepting more and wouldn't want to ruin more, I had a fun time watching it. It has its fun moment, and while also features some bittersweet moments and all other additions. . If you're looking for more exciting and entertaining content about the CIA, I would recommend this. Just be sure to keep an open mind and enjoy the ride!

Have fun!

Kaycee7:
Ah! Na im be say Lee no thief your girlfriend back in the day

Before BTS boys na the homie dey tension us that year.

Can't even recognize the dude in a pic but we all knew the name. He was big in the early 2010s.

Lol, no I no dey watch Korean series like that back then. Na them Iris and City Hunter I been watch then.

itspreshh:
you didn't watch those old Korean series if you don't know Lee-Min-Ho or that dude that acted Jumong

Jumong was peak that year sha...
I still miss those medieval Korean war shows...
They were so good back then

Nope. Didn't watch much Korean series back then.

I never still understand why I didn't get into Jumong back then when it was the rave in sec sch.
Korean series didn't have a good standing with me those years, as I saw them as mainly girlie romance stuff.

Many people Stan Jumong those years. It's one of the major TV shows I never joined while it was airing and I was fully aware.

abduleez1:


Lol, no I no dey watch Korean series like that back then. Na them Iris and City Hunter I been watch then.

Na Lee Min-Ho be the City Hunter guy

ShitStain:


Shining girls 9.5/10
Beautifully written show and a pretty good ending.
Definitely one of the best shows I've seen this year.

The peripheral next.

Glad you enjoyed it.

The Peripheral is the weakest of the trio but worth a watch.