Christistruth03:




Ask yourself why then are the Awori still the Land owners of Lagos Island and the Oba of Lagos on the same Island doesn’t own the land and the Land on which his Palace was built was a gift From Aromire the Son of Olofin whose descendants still own a huge part of Lagos Island Land



https://punchng.com/bini-people-are-strangers-in-lagos-says-awori-group/

Ologbo147:
it is not up to them, this is what history says meanwhile the same inconsequential Oba of lagos that supposedly did not control any land by your arajugbo history(which you usually never have any material to back up) ceded lagos to the British in 1861. How ironic, how clannish of a people to have watched a king that did not control any land to have ceded lagos to the British in @1861

Your brazen denial of the Oba of lagos strength in lagos history has no place anywhere in historical analysis. It was this stool, the Oba of lagos not the Olofin, not the Oloto that ceded lagos to the British in 1861. An inconsequential king cannot do that we can see your argument has a place in delusion and self denial. Unarguably, going by lagos history and politics, the Oba of lagos seem to have been the numero uno among kings in lagos state

Going by our account, he was a son of Oba Orhogbua

Christistruth03:



Oba of Lagos only influence is between Idumota and Obalende Markets on Lagos Island

he doesn’t even control Ikoyi on the same Lagos Island

He is the Head of a District in Aworiland

Christistruth03:





There is a very big difference between having an Oba of Benin as your Maternal Grandfather

and being the son of the Oba of Benin

Ologbo147:
you have any material, eye witness accounts preferably that corroborate your partitioning ?

Why was it the Oba of Lagos that ceded Lagos to the British in 1861

Ologbo147:
According to Edo account my brother, the Oba of Lagos was a direct son of the Oba of Benin

Christistruth03:




Badagry and Whydah were under the Alaafin of Oyo
especially after Benin began its decline in the 17th Century
Benin May have had some Influence before 1730 but not afterwards or at least definitely not in the 18th Century
How many kings did Benin install there absolutely none
Hope you know the Alaafin of Oyo is still the Sovereign overlord of the Oba of Porto Novo

Ologbo147:
This is what I wanted you to see now

According to Edo traditions, Lagos itself was founded by a Benin army, and Oba Orhogbua is said to have made it his headquarters about the middle of the sixteenth century. His son left there to rule on his behalf is claimed to have been the founder of the Lagos ruling dynasty, and this is confirmed to some extent by Lagos traditions

Christistruth03:



https://wap.org.ng/read/history-of-onikoyi-and-eso-ikoyi-of-ikoyi-lagos/

Ologbo147:
do you have any eye witness accounts to back it up , this was written by a Yoruba, if a Yoruba was to write Lagos, they will tell you the Oba of Benin probably never visited Lagos, that Benin has entirely nothing to do with lagos, they will probably tell you Benin did not pass oredo

Ologbo147:
this is Bini’s tradition, it was written seventy years ago, my father was still a toddler then, this is the tradition Bradbury met on ground, in the 50s we know Oba Ado according to Bini tradition as the direct son of the King of Benin

Christistruth03:



Now you are just repeating yourself

Christistruth03:



Are you saying Yorubas don’t know their own History

I will like to politely remind you that Lagos is Yorubaland

It is like me looking for a White man to confirm Igbo History

Ologbo147:
I know Lagos is Yoruba land, but when it concerns Lagos and Other tribes as it involves her affairs, there tend to be biases on one side especially when the historical narrative is coming from the indigenes of Yoruba land herself

Christistruth03:





There are Histories that only the People themselves can confirm because others were not there

Ologbo147:
Let me agree for the sake of argument, Oyo only became an empire in 1680, before then, who was Ikoyi under?

Christistruth03:


Ikoyi or Imoba as Yorubas Called it was an Independent Kingdom in Aworiland

Ologbo147:
proof please, was headed by who

Christistruth03:



Onikoyi

About 1790 Lagos was successfully invaded by the neighboring Benins. [b]They did not remain in occupation [/b]but left a representative as ruler whose title was the Eleko.

googi:
Land grabbers in their wild imagination will never give up. The presentation made to the Privy Council as far back as



The only connection Bini Oba, a Yoruba dynasty that overthrew the wicked Ogiso had with Eko, was giving his daughter to Ashipa the First King of Eko. Some called him Eleko, others called him Olofin. Whatever you called Ashipa, he was the truce King of Lagos that married the daughter of another Yoruba king that conquered Bini after brutal Ogiso King killed a pregnant woman and others like the Urhobo, Itshekiri, Onitcha etc ran away despite the wall to keep them in

The rhetorical question about Oyo Empire means that some people think Oyo only come into existence during the Empire.

Oyo was the same as Yoruba, Anago, Olukumi etc found along West Africa and Americas with different names.

How can anyone ask for proof that Oyo or Yoruba occupy Eko, their land before anyone else?

What a question.

Ologbo147:
any proof of when the onikoyi dynasty started and proof as to if he was ever independent(that is if his dynasty started before the emergence of Oyo

Ologbo147:
even your own article already had variants of history of where the title Onikoyi came from.

When did the Onikoyi start?

Do you have any proof that it was independent of the Oba of Lagos up till the time of the Oyo empire

Christistruth03:




Imoba is as Ancient as the Awori Tribe itself

Imoba was where the first king of Ilesa went to fetch Water to Cure Oduduwa’s blindness when he was Old

That is why Oba Ilesa is titled as Owa Obokun

Obokun means he who fetches Sea Water

Christistruth03:






and a White Cap Chief at Isale Eko because he owns land in Obalende

Ologbo147:
do you have any proof?

Christistruth03:




the Otun Ekiti People migrated from Moba in Lagos in the 15th Century and today the

King of Otun Ekiti is still referred to as the Oore of Mobaland

It was from MOBA Lagos that Onikoyi rules over that the Otun Ekiti migrated from

Ologbo147:
a white cap chief is subordinate to the Oba of Lagos
[b][/b]
According to the Benin law,the king is the sovereign owner of land, and as the territory was conquered by the Binis, it follows that during the conquest the king of Benin was the real owner,the control exercised by the chiefs under the Eleko or representative being exercised as part of the machinery of government and not in virtue of ownership. It might be for a considerable period prior to 1850, the control of the king of Benin had been been relaxed until it became little more than a formal and norminal overlordship, and that in this period, there had been a tendency on the part of the minor chiefs to arrogate to themselves powers to which constitutionally they had no claim. Including independent powers of control and management. There is a possibility of this, this is a point of view of the argument on who own Lagos