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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by DanWord(m): 2:21am On Sep 26, 2023
Nwakatamary:
Good morning to everyone.

Please, I would like to know how long it takes to get a decision email from UKVI after applying for a graduate visa.

I know on their website it says 8 weeks, but for people who applied recently, how long did it take before you got a decision email from the UKVI.

Please anyone..

Thanks




Three weeks. Submitted 1st of September got the visa decision 21st of September and got the brp two days later.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 2:28am On Sep 26, 2023
ehizario2012:
Many thanks. Please address the diesel or petrol question too Chief.


I hate diesels (that's me personally)......
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cassan(f): 8:04am On Sep 26, 2023
Good morning house.
Please I have been trying to sign in to HMRC online but it deeps declining my passport scanning. What can I do about that please?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by taalas: 8:50am On Sep 26, 2023
This is my timeline..pls advise

The email is from my potential sponsor(soon to be manager)

I have left the UK after my studies in 2011

I currently live in Nigeria

I applied for the job and got interviewed in January,

The HR called and sent me email that I was successful but that I should wait, the company will look into my sponsorship that it is a robust process and its been managed independently

The conditional offer came in May

I did pre employment checks from May to July

Completed the AccessNI in July with proof of address and ID checks

The HR said they will change my shift to night shift to enable my salary per hour be eligible to the sponsorship criteria, I agreed

By August ending my soon to be manager asked my to furnish her with my UK address and Visa and Passport copies to send for my sponsorship

I told to her that I am in Nigeria and dont have any valid UK visa or address except when I was a student in 2011, she said she has submitted my documents to the sponsorship team and will get back to me as soon as she hear back

From August til September 22nd the HR kept on sending me updates that my sponsorship application is still in progress

I was surprised to get an email stating "potential sponsorship query from my soon to be manager asking for visa and passport copies..

Can anyone guide me through please on what to do or how to respond

Thanks




bigtt76:
Can you calm down and explain carefully what the embolden are all about?

One minute you are talking about employer wanting to sponsor you. Next minute you are in Nigeria and further again... You've only been in the UK 2011 for studies... Question is where are you and what is your employment status where you are 🤷🏿‍♀️



Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by rinzylee(m): 8:56am On Sep 26, 2023
Treadway:
Na soyou garrit! Homie was so riled up he deleted my post addressing this some mins ago. By Jupiter, I didn't know I had that much power over one...lol

Mark it, this will likely be deleted too in 3,2,1......lol

😂 😂....my brother...we will keep defending the FAITH. He will come around someday.


The question I always ask "what did Church do to you ?
Did anyone force you to pay TITHES or OFFERING or to SOW a SEED?


Why you dey drink paracetamol on top person headache?


Yet, if army man slap you for naija, you go shout sorry sir.....

But Las Las JUSTWISE and Lexusgs430 na my men o...highly cerebral homosapiens.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by bigtt76(f): 9:30am On Sep 26, 2023
Good stuff. This is well detailed.

Now the process of securing is a bit complex and suffers delays especially when the employer is sponsoring for the first time (which we don't know for certain if they had been sponsoring others before you).

Regarding the reporting manager's question, it might not be directed to you if the HR is copied in but understand the circumstances you should be the one disturbing him about your visa. You should also let them know you are not resident in the UK. Appears you may have told them you are in the UK during the application process unknowingly or they misread that but by and large they sponsor folks from Nigeria so yours shouldn't be an issue but the thing is it takes a while to get things done. From the timeline, that process is currently on-going so be patient.



taalas:
This is my timeline..pls advise

The email is from my potential sponsor(soon to be manager)

I have left the UK after my studies in 2011

I currently live in Nigeria

I applied for the job and got interviewed in January,

The HR called and sent me email that I was successful but that I should wait, the company will look into my sponsorship that it is a robust process and its been managed independently

The conditional offer came in May

I did pre employment checks from May to July

Completed the AccessNI in July with proof of address and ID checks

The HR said they will change my shift to night shift to enable my salary per hour be eligible to the sponsorship criteria, I agreed

By August ending my soon to be manager asked my to furnish her with my UK address and Visa and Passport copies to send for my sponsorship

I told to her that I am in Nigeria and dont have any valid UK visa or address except when I was a student in 2011, she said she has submitted my documents to the sponsorship team and will get back to me as soon as she hear back

From August til September 22nd the HR kept on sending me updates that my sponsorship application is still in progress

I was surprised to get an email stating "potential sponsorship query from my soon to be manager asking for visa and passport copies..

Can anyone guide me through please on what to do or how to respond

Thanks




Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 9:46am On Sep 26, 2023
rinzylee:


😂 😂....my brother...we will keep defending the FAITH. He will come around someday.


The question I always ask "what did Church do to you ?
Did anyone force you to pay TITHES or OFFERING or to SOW a SEED?


Why you dey drink paracetamol on top person headache?


Yet, if army man slap you for naija, you go shout sorry sir.....

But Las Las JUSTWISE and Lexusgs430 na my men o...highly cerebral homosapiens.

Yes you are forced to pay Tithes and offering, you are told that you will not make heaven if you don't pay, you are told that you are stealing from God if you ate your Tithes and offering, they falsely use Malachi 3:10 to deceived their members even when they know that Tithes got nothing to do with money and was not even paid monthly when it was practiced in old dispensation.

These Jesus factory owners will use all sorts of means to steal from members and still have the gut to call the name of God

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by taalas: 9:50am On Sep 26, 2023
Thanks alot,I think the mail was directed to be because it has my first name and I dont think the HR is in the copy

Please how best can I respond?

Thnaks

A template can suffix not making it seem as if I am reporting my soon to be manager to the HR management/team.

bigtt76:
Good stuff. This is well detailed.

Now the process of securing is a bit complex and suffers delays especially when the employer is sponsoring for the first time (which we don't know for certain if they had been sponsoring others before you).

Regarding the reporting manager's question, it might not be directed to you if the HR is copied in but understand the circumstances you should be the one disturbing him about your visa. You should also let them know you are not resident in the UK. Appears you may have told them you are in the UK during the application process unknowingly or they misread that but by and large they sponsor folks from Nigeria so yours shouldn't be an issue but the thing is it takes a while to get things done. From the timeline, that process is currently on-going so be patient.



Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by mayowa94: 9:58am On Sep 26, 2023
Good morning

Please is data analyst under shortage occupation list?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by rinzylee(m): 10:28am On Sep 26, 2023
justwise:


Yes you are forced to pay Tithes and offering, you are told that you will not make heaven if you don't pay, you are told that you are stealing from God if you ate your Tithes and offering, they falsely use Malachi 3:10 to deceived their members even when they know that Tithes got nothing to do with money and was not even paid monthly when it was practiced in old dispensation.

These Jesus factory owners will use all sorts of means to steal from members and still have the gut to call the name of God


Ok I see your points which are very very valid.


Now let me try to do some explaining and I stand to be corrected and would appreciate any contribution too.


To start with, TITHING precedes Jesus Christ. It was even practised before Abraham came. So it is not a new testament or modern age fabrication. Infact Jesus made a very emphatic statement in Mathew 23:23 NLT translation "“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

As much as it is a command by God, I will also say that He will not kill Mr A or Mrs B if they default , but there are conditions He has put to the obedience of that COMMAND. Infact, every blessing or promise in scripture has a condition to experience it. Even SALVATION which is FREE is based on the condition of REPENTANCE and BELIEVING in the finished works of CHRIST.

I agree that there are a lot of people who are not true men of God or who are basically interested in material possessions and have made a nonsense of the prosperity message (which is part of the gospel), but we must also not throw away the baby with the bath water.

Whether you will go to HELL for not paying TITHES, I can not guarantee, but what I can say is, if you have chosen to be a Christian, then trust God for GRACE to practise all its essence.

You know when I said that Christianity isn't a RELIGION, my brother misunderstood me .... Let me explain ( and I am sorry if I sounded rude dear brother)... We are supposed to be in a LOVING relationship with God and not a forced fearful union. Christianity is a walk , a fellowship and deep communion with God. If you serve God from the perspective of LOVE and TRUST, then you will also lovingly give without coercion or fear of being punished.

When we give, we give because we want this good news that changed our lives to spread to the ends of the earth. Infact, some of us give more than 10%. You can't love without giving innit? Same way, TITHES and OFFERINGS are expressions of our love to God to support His servants and the work committed to their TRUST.


If you take your focus off Man, and turn that attention on JESUS, you would not need any man to force you to give. Hebrews records that it is even Jesus who collects these TITHES represented by priests on earth.

Hebrews 7:8 Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives. "


Trust me, there are people who are supporting the spread of the gospel with billions which is far more than the value of their TITHES.

If you have been involved in mission work, you would know that funding the gospel is BIG MONEY. A true Christian should not withhold his givings. Let him give as the Lord has prospered him. And one such way is to be a committed TITHER. If the church he pays it to abuses or mismanages it, it is left for God to deal with the erring priests.

One thing I know is that, every man will account to God some day.



Finally, on the issue of whether it was money or not they were asked to tithe, it is simple. They didn't have the equivalents of our currencies today, the priests actually lived off these items they brought to the temple because God asked them not to work or get involved in any other business, but to stay day and night taking care of the temple and all. Today, we have ability to have these goods converted into cash, our services are converted to monetary forms, so it is also reasonable to pay TITHE in monetary form. If you insist on bringing crops and animals as your tithe, then no wahala, it will be sold and converted to money.


There's a lot to say on this TITHING matter but space fails me.



I greet you sir!!!

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Nwakatamary: 12:12pm On Sep 26, 2023
Thank you @ DanWord

DanWord:





Three weeks. Submitted 1st of September got the visa decision 21st of September and got the brp two days later.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 12:18pm On Sep 26, 2023
rinzylee:



Ok I see your points which are very very valid.


Now let me try to do some explaining and I stand to be corrected and would appreciate any contribution too.


To start with, TITHING precedes Jesus Christ. It was even practised before Abraham came. So it is not a new testament or modern age fabrication. Infact Jesus made a very emphatic statement in Mathew 23:23 NLT translation "“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

As much as it is a command by God, I will also say that He will not kill Mr A or Mrs B if they default , but there are conditions He has put to the obedience of that COMMAND. Infact, every blessing or promise in scripture has a condition to experience it. Even SALVATION which is FREE is based on the condition of REPENTANCE and BELIEVING in the finished works of CHRIST.


Mentioning of Tithes and commandement to give are two different things. so i ask you this..

Tell me anywhere in New testerment where Jesus christ commanded today christains to give 10% of their income monthly to the church.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dustydee: 12:29pm On Sep 26, 2023
taalas:
Thanks alot,I think the mail was directed to be because it has my first name and I dont think the HR is in the copy

Please how best can I respond?

Thnaks

A template can suffix not making it seem as if I am reporting my soon to be manager to the HR management/team.

They asked for your passport and visa, send them a copy of your passport and tell them that as per previous discussions, you will require visa sponsorship and you are awaiting further instructions from them on how to apply, including certificate of sponsorship.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by bigtt76(f): 12:32pm On Sep 26, 2023
No template in responding to emails here o ....just respond politely that you are yet to be issued with the Certificate of Sponsorship which you require to apply for a skilled worker visa from Nigeria and that you would be very grateful if he can help expedite the action or follow up with the HR department for same.

Normal email response ...no 'sir' or 'madam' .....you can run it through ChatGPT to help correct the grammar or spelling. You can even ask it to rewrite an email for you to capture those points.


taalas:
Thanks alot,I think the mail was directed to be because it has my first name and I dont think the HR is in the copy

Please how best can I respond?

Thnaks

A template can suffix not making it seem as if I am reporting my soon to be manager to the HR management/team.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Strata1716: 12:37pm On Sep 26, 2023
Osa0:
Hi, what qualifications and skill is required for this admin coordinator job sef

Different trusts have different skill and qualifications.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by mintyx(m): 12:40pm On Sep 26, 2023
Hello everyone!

Thanks for all the contributions to this page which I have benefitted from a lot.

My own problem here is that I need a wife!

Yeah I'm not ashamed to ask. I have tried and maybe I haven't been lucky

I will be 39 by October. I'm 6'1, from Imo state and work with the NHS.

I don't know what handsome means to you. I might be your definition of handsome but if I'm not, trust me, I'm not bad looking.

I will prefer someone already in England. Not ruling out someone in Nigeria if it's by recommendation.

I'm looking for a good soul who knows what she wants in life and reciprocates efforts. I love a good looking lady, who smells nice, good communicator, kind and empathetic between 26-34 years of age. I will do all these as well.

I prefer from the south east, south south, some parts of the North(as long as you are a Christian).

I am Catholic (Christian) and I try as much as possible to be the best person I can. We can start from friendship/relationship and work towards settling soon.

Pls if you are or can recommend someone, pls help a brother out. Almost all the Nigerian ladies around me here are all married grin

I can be reached via this email: glucocareng@gmail.com

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by gmacnoms(m): 12:43pm On Sep 26, 2023
rinzylee:



Ok I see your points which are very very valid.


Now let me try to do some explaining and I stand to be corrected and would appreciate any contribution too.


To start with, TITHING precedes Jesus Christ. It was even practised before Abraham came. So it is not a new testament or modern age fabrication. Infact Jesus made a very emphatic statement in Mathew 23:23 NLT translation "“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

As much as it is a command by God, I will also say that He will not kill Mr A or Mrs B if they default , but there are conditions He has put to the obedience of that COMMAND. Infact, every blessing or promise in scripture has a condition to experience it. Even SALVATION which is FREE is based on the condition of REPENTANCE and BELIEVING in the finished works of CHRIST.

I agree that there are a lot of people who are not true men of God or who are basically interested in material possessions and have made a nonsense of the prosperity message (which is part of the gospel), but we must also not throw away the baby with the bath water.

Whether you will go to HELL for not paying TITHES, I can not guarantee, but what I can say is, if you have chosen to be a Christian, then trust God for GRACE to practise all its essence.

You know when I said that Christianity isn't a RELIGION, my brother misunderstood me .... Let me explain ( and I am sorry if I sounded rude dear brother)... We are supposed to be in a LOVING relationship with God and not a forced fearful union. Christianity is a walk , a fellowship and deep communion with God. If you serve God from the perspective of LOVE and TRUST, then you will also lovingly give without coercion or fear of being punished.

When we give, we give because we want this good news that changed our lives to spread to the ends of the earth. Infact, some of us give more than 10%. You can't love without giving innit? Same way, TITHES and OFFERINGS are expressions of our love to God to support His servants and the work committed to their TRUST.


If you take your focus off Man, and turn that attention on JESUS, you would not need any man to force you to give. Hebrews records that it is even Jesus who collects these TITHES represented by priests on earth.

Hebrews 7:8 Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives. "


Trust me, there are people who are supporting the spread of the gospel with billions which is far more than the value of their TITHES.

If you have been involved in mission work, you would know that funding the gospel is BIG MONEY. A true Christian should not withhold his givings. Let him give as the Lord has prospered him. And one such way is to be a committed TITHER. If the church he pays it to abuses or mismanages it, it is left for God to deal with the erring priests.

One thing I know is that, every man will account to God some day.



Finally, on the issue of whether it was money or not they were asked to tithe, it is simple. They didn't have the equivalents of our currencies today, the priests actually lived off these items they brought to the temple because God asked them not to work or get involved in any other business, but to stay day and night taking care of the temple and all. Today, we have ability to have these goods converted into cash, our services are converted to monetary forms, so it is also reasonable to pay TITHE in monetary form. If you insist on bringing crops and animals as your tithe, then no wahala, it will be sold and converted to money.


There's a lot to say on this TITHING matter but space fails me.



I greet you sir!!!
You go explain Taya 😁

No evidence.

Jesus says in the last days, many will rise in my name MT 25:5…… My point remains that church or mosque is the last place I’d advice anyone coming to this uk or anywhere sef to seek help.

If I put in the work in studying and acting on the written word, I don’t need to start slaving and daddying or mummying crooks and thieves that pose in the name of Jesus.

When I have time, I’ll tell you several hands on experiences.

Btw, I’m even referring to Nigeria churches and pastors who now focus on materialism and 10keys to success or financial freedom, instead of the true Gospel of Jesus.

I went to church not because I am looking for any miracle money or whatever ever it is , the pastors and clergies are feeding on(yes I need his help and I know it is in his world, which is available to all)but because I reverence him and thank him for all he does and is to me.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by rinzylee(m): 12:44pm On Sep 26, 2023
justwise:


Mentioning of Tithes and commandement to give are two different things. so i ask you this..

Tell me anywhere in New testerment where Jesus christ commanded today christains to give 10% of their income monthly to the church.

What if I told you that the command in the New Testament isn't even just 10%, but your whole life.

Tithe na beginner stage my brother.

See eh, there's a point you get to in your relationship with God and you eventually understand that your whole life and possessions belong to God.


I think you are still having issues because you think you are giving to Church. You don't see your giving as unto God.

I showed you 2 scriptures, 1 by Jesus and another referencing Jesus by Paul.


Mathew 23:23 Read in NLT version and Hebrews 7:8 also.


The church is the Body of Christ. Whatever we do in Faith is established in heaven.


I can't help your angst towards the CHURCH.


TITHE is for running the Kingdom projects and taking care of God's servants.


Let me ask you.... Has the Church shut down since you stopped TITHING? I assume you did tithe in the past.

People who understand are still TITHING.


AND YES TITHING is RECOGNISED and approved by JESUS.

It is neither an old or a new testament practise.

It is older than Abraham and Moses who are the bedrock of the old testament.

You don't pick 1 and leave the other.


Dear JUSTWISE People that genuinely TITHE do not complain.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dustydee: 12:52pm On Sep 26, 2023
rinzylee:



Ok I see your points which are very very valid.


Now let me try to do some explaining and I stand to be corrected and would appreciate any contribution too.


To start with, TITHING precedes Jesus Christ. It was even practised before Abraham came. So it is not a new testament or modern age fabrication. Infact Jesus made a very emphatic statement in Mathew 23:23 NLT translation "“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

As much as it is a command by God, I will also say that He will not kill Mr A or Mrs B if they default , but there are conditions He has put to the obedience of that COMMAND. Infact, every blessing or promise in scripture has a condition to experience it. Even SALVATION which is FREE is based on the condition of REPENTANCE and BELIEVING in the finished works of CHRIST.

I agree that there are a lot of people who are not true men of God or who are basically interested in material possessions and have made a nonsense of the prosperity message (which is part of the gospel), but we must also not throw away the baby with the bath water.

Whether you will go to HELL for not paying TITHES, I can not guarantee, but what I can say is, if you have chosen to be a Christian, then trust God for GRACE to practise all its essence.

Brother, I think you are mistaken. First, what is tithe? Then what does the bible say about "paying" tithe. Was the instruction to pay tithes made to christians or the Jews? That passage you quoted, Christ was talking to Jews (The Pharisees) not Christians. What about parts of the scriptures that says you should use your tithe to buy alcohol and drink?
You mentioned "essence", if tithing was essential, why did Christ say it was not important?
If you choose tithing as one of the laws to obey, why are you not obeying the other 600+ laws?
I agree that giving is essential and good but why do we use it to build edifices and buy private jets. Christ said "Go ye into the world . . ." not build me palacial places of worship. Since I realised the truth about tithing, I have refrained from "paying" it. I concentrate more on my giving.
It is not recorded that the disciples paid tithe or ordered people to pay tithes.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 1:11pm On Sep 26, 2023
rinzylee:


What if I told you that the command in the New Testament isn't even just 10%, but your whole life.

Tithe na beginner stage my brother.

See eh, there's a point you get to in your relationship with God and you eventually understand that your whole life and possessions belong to God.


I think you are still having issues because you think you are giving to Church. You don't see your giving as unto God.

I showed you 2 scriptures, 1 by Jesus and another referencing Jesus by Paul.


Mathew 23:23 Read in NLT version and Hebrews 7:8 also.


The church is the Body of Christ. Whatever we do in Faith is established in heaven.


I can't help your angst towards the CHURCH.


TITHE is for running the Kingdom projects and taking care of God's servants.


Let me ask you.... Has the Church shut down since you stopped TITHING? I assume you did tithe in the past.

People who understand are still TITHING.


AND YES TITHING is RECOGNISED and approved by JESUS.

It is neither an old or a new testament practise.

It is older than Abraham and Moses who are the bedrock of the old testament.

You don't pick 1 and leave the other.


Dear JUSTWISE People that genuinely TITHE do not complain.

Stay on point, i'm not interested in your long episode.

I ask you again..tell me anywhere in new testerment where Jesus Christ commanded today christains to pay 10% of their monthly income to the Church.

..and bytheway.. this is Matthew 23v23 you keep mentioning

Matthew 23:23
English Standard Version

23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.''



Where in that verse did Jesus commanded us to pay 10% of monthly?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by rinzylee(m): 1:17pm On Sep 26, 2023
dustydee:

Brother, I think you are mistaken. First, what is tithe? Then what does the bible say about "paying" tithe. Was the instruction to pay tithes made to christians or the Jews? That passage you quoted, Christ was talking to Jews (The Pharisees) not Christians. What about parts of the scriptures that says you should use your tithe to buy alcohol and drink?
You mentioned "essence", if tithing was essential, why did Christ say it was not important?
If you choose tithing as one of the laws to obey, why are you not obeying the other 600+ laws?
I agree that giving is essential and good but why do we use it to build edifices and buy private jets. Christ said "Go ye into the world . . ." not build me palacial places of worship. Since I realised the truth about tithing, I have refrained from "paying" it. I concentrate more on my giving.
It is not recorded that the disciples paid tithe or ordered people to pay tithes.

Mmm....interesting

First of all..Jesus didn't say it wasn't important. He was reprimanding them for paying TITHES yet being evil hearted hypocritical people.

Truth is I can't convince anyone to pay or not to pay TITHES. It is a revelation that dawns on you. Trust me, man by nature is selfish and has more tendency to withhold than to give. Tithing is one such ordinance that helps us constantly show who is Lord of our finances.

While I am against amassing wealth and focusing on self gratification as against advancing the real reason Jesus came, I can also categorically tell you with all boldness that PROSPERITY and WEALTH is one SUCH reasons why JESUS died.

When you really understand missions and are actively involved, you will understand that private Jet is a toy and tool of missions.

Have you had to connect 7 countries in 3 days

Have you ever gone to the interior villages to see how much of the funds go into crusades that also involve medical, social, educational projects?

It will be very hard to convince you if you have not experienced these first-hand.


Who told you we were not asked to build places of worship?? Come on man, check your bible well nah.

Have you ever evaluated the cost of the temple solomon built?? Do the research , you would marvel.

So when we win souls , where do we disciple them??

I don't know sha the church you attend, but I am a product of a very rigorous training system.

We don't just save a man's soul, He must be trained and then deployed. Church is not just about praying and shouting, the man must be developed SPIRIT, SOUL and BODY. So where will these development of his mind and soul happen? In the Bush??...SMH



I am sorry for the models of ministry you guys may have experienced, but trust me...Ministry and Pastoring is a huge task, especially genuine pastoring. And , boy it is costly!!!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by rinzylee(m): 1:19pm On Sep 26, 2023
justwise:


Stay on point, i'm not interested in your long episode.

I ask you again..tell me anywhere in new testerment where Jesus Christ commanded today christains to pay 10% of their monthly income to the Church.

..and bytheway.. this is Matthew 23v23 you keep mentioning

Matthew 23:23
English Standard Version

23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.''



Where in that verse did Jesus commanded us to pay 10% of monthly?



Chai... my brother. I have told you. You just have an issue with the CHURCH. I can't help you.


I say again...No One has forced you to TITHE and no one will ever notice that your £$€¥ is not reporting to the Church account.


People who TITHE don't complain.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 1:22pm On Sep 26, 2023
dustydee:

Brother, I think you are mistaken. First, what is tithe? Then what does the bible say about "paying" tithe. Was the instruction to pay tithes made to christians or the Jews? That passage you quoted, Christ was talking to Jews (The Pharisees) not Christians. What about parts of the scriptures that says you should use your tithe to buy alcohol and drink?
You mentioned "essence", if tithing was essential, why did Christ say it was not important?
If you choose tithing as one of the laws to obey, why are you not obeying the other 600+ laws?
I agree that giving is essential and good but why do we use it to build edifices and buy private jets. Christ said "Go ye into the world . . ." not build me palacial places of worship. Since I realised the truth about tithing, I have refrained from "paying" it. I concentrate more on my giving.
It is not recorded that the disciples paid tithe or ordered people to pay tithes.

yes i support giving to the Church because it cost money to run the Church, i give and donate for Church building.

Tithing is a scam and many Nigerian pastors have scammed their members for yrs. I was forced to tithe until i stopped

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by rinzylee(m): 1:23pm On Sep 26, 2023
gmacnoms:
You go explain Taya 😁

No evidence.

Jesus says in the last days, many will rise in my name MT 25:5…… My point remains that church or mosque is the last place I’d advice anyone coming to this uk or anywhere sef to seek help.

If I put in the work in studying and acting on the written word, I don’t need to start slaving and daddying or mummying crooks and thieves that pose in the name of Jesus.

When I have time, I’ll tell you several hands on experiences.

Btw, I’m even referring to Nigeria churches and pastors who now focus on materialism and 10keys to success or financial freedom, instead of the true Gospel of Jesus.

I went to church not because I am looking for any miracle money or whatever ever it is , the pastors and clergies are feeding on(yes I need his help and I know it is in his world, which is available to all)but because I reverence him and thank him for all he does and is to me.


The CHURCH is the body of Christ and there is no guarantee that we won't be hurt or meet dubious people of very funny characters.


If your focus is on MAN , you will always be disappointed.


As long as we live on this earth, we will always meet imperfect people and experience imperfect situations, but this doesn't make God's command any less binding.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 1:24pm On Sep 26, 2023
rinzylee:



Chai... my brother. I have told you. You just have an issue with the CHURCH. I can't help you.


I say again...No One has forced you to TITHE and no one will ever notice that your £$€¥ is not reporting to the Church account.


People who TITHE don't complain.

You can't give an honest answer to that question right?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by rinzylee(m): 1:25pm On Sep 26, 2023
Abeg away from TITHE matter... does anyone here do large-scale farming in Nigeria or any African country?

Interest area is Avocado, Sesame , Cassava.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Treadway: 1:28pm On Sep 26, 2023
dustydee:

Brother, I think you are mistaken. First, what is tithe? Then what does the bible say about "paying" tithe. Was the instruction to pay tithes made to christians or the Jews? That passage you quoted, Christ was talking to Jews (The Pharisees) not Christians. What about parts of the scriptures that says you should use your tithe to buy alcohol and drink?
You mentioned "essence", if tithing was essential, why did Christ say it was not important?
If you choose tithing as one of the laws to obey, why are you not obeying the other 600+ laws?
I agree that giving is essential and good but why do we use it to build edifices and buy private jets. Christ said "Go ye into the world . . ." not build me palacial places of worship. Since I realised the truth about tithing, I have refrained from "paying" it. I concentrate more on my giving.
It is not recorded that the disciples paid tithe or ordered people to pay tithes.
you have spoken my mind. I don't like dabbling into this topic, but as you said I have recognized for years that I am not under any law to give tithe. I am joyous and happy to have the grace to give willingly to kingdom work sha. So if most Christians still tag theirs tithe, I don't bother myself cos e no concern me. To add, there was money back then (silver etc) but there was no specific emphasis/instruction about tithing money. When money was mentioned, it was for a person to use it to exchange it for the stuff/items if such items are too much to carry for the distance to travel, and even then you are supposed to once again exchange that money to buy 'stuff' when you get to the destination, and at the destination sef the instruction is eat it and rejoice. If you read the description, it was like an annual festival/ritual of sorts. This is the simple documented truth. And as you said there were several other laws just as the tithing law, all of which we no longer are under as reborn Christians, so tithing as a concept is in effect similarly obsolete. But to each his own.

Ps: If you have a discerning spirit and you are attending a church led by a pastor-preneur, you would know. At least that has been my experience.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Juwon21: 1:36pm On Sep 26, 2023
Experienced people,

What is the kind of job I can find as a 20 hours per week student or how can I find a job in my area. I am staying in Preston, and schooling in Manchester.

I heard warehouse jobs are stressful, and I don't like care jobs, but I like security. I will appreciate someone who can give me tips and advice on what to do
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Nobody: 1:47pm On Sep 26, 2023
Juwon21:
Experienced people,

What is the kind of job I can find as a 20 hours per week student or how can I find a job in my area. I am staying in Preston, and schooling in Manchester.

I heard warehouse jobs are stressful, and I don't like care jobs, but I like security. I will appreciate someone who can give me tips and advice on what to do

Retail should fit. There should be lots of stores looking for people especially this festive period.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by gmacnoms(m): 1:54pm On Sep 26, 2023
rinzylee:



The CHURCH is the body of Christ and there is no guarantee that we won't be hurt or meet dubious people of very funny characters.


If your focus is on MAN , you will always be disappointed.


As long as we live on this earth, we will always meet imperfect people and experience imperfect situations, but this doesn't make God's command any less binding.


Nobody is talking about God. The church is run by humans. And these days, a lot of dubious, fraudulent and wicked acts is happening in the world, the church not excluded.

I’ll say it again, and in the first context, I won’t advice anyone coming to the uk to seek help from the church or any religious body.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by gmacnoms(m): 1:55pm On Sep 26, 2023
Juwon21:
Experienced people,

What is the kind of job I can find as a 20 hours per week student or how can I find a job in my area. I am staying in Preston, and schooling in Manchester.

I heard warehouse jobs are stressful, and I don't like care jobs, but I like security. I will appreciate someone who can give me tips and advice on what to do
since you are interested in the security, I think you should then consider SIA. I heard you can get the badge in 2 weeks or less.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by autologic: 2:03pm On Sep 26, 2023
ehizario2012:
Hi great people, please help decide between a diesel and petrol car. I am looking at used 2006 Vauxhall astra, Ford fiesta etc as a first car in d UK. I am on a budget of £550.

Also, apart from Facebook marketplace, is there a UK equivalent of Jiji where I can meet direct owners willing to sell?

Thanks as always fam.
If I were you I would take more time to increase my budget to around 2.5-3k to get a good petrol car with low mileage as you will pay more for road tax and insurance for a vehicle of 550£ due to emissions issue and high parts failure rate.
Beside diesel vehicle maintenance is higher in the long run relatively to gasoline powered.
Facebook marketplace still remains some of best place to meet directly with real owners and scammers alike cheesy .Just keep searching with some due iligence and eye wide open, you soon hit your gold .

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