Ghostwon8222:
What you just said might be the most twisted statement which. I have ever heard.

1) there is nobody on earth whom is more Edo than the Oba of Benin, indeed unlike most Nigerians, the Oba of Benin's ancestors were witnessed by Europeans in the 1400's. And the Oba was already sitting on his imperial throne in his capital (Benin city). His vassal (Olu of Warri) was actually the first to meet the Europeans, but sent them to the emperor from whom the Olu derived his authority.
2) ogiamen is a well known imposter and traitor, indeed the ogimens collaborated with the British during the 1897 war between Benin and Britain which resulted in the looting and burning of Benin city. One of the very few houses in Benin city which didn't get burnt by the British was that of their ogiamen collaborators.
3) ogiamen has clearly alligned himself with Yoruba supremacists who claim the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba. The Yoruba supremacists boost the ogiamen claim and the ogiamen boosts the Yoruba supremacist claim.
4) our ancestors couldn't read or write and had no access to papers and pens, so how in god's name was any treaty signed between us?
5) it is only people with very poor education who can actually believe that the Oba of Benin could be anything other than an Edo, does your ancestry go back 600 years ? Well, only the Oba of Benin and perhaps two other monarchs in Nigeria have an ancestry which goes back 600 years. So it is foolish for you to claim "Oba of Benin is Yoruba". His ancestry of more than 600 years clearly says he is the most Edo man on earth.
6) how far does the Oni of Ife's ancestry go ?
7) how far does your ancestry go ?
8 ) you don't even know your true origin nor that of the Oni of ife (slave descendent, Sudanese migrant, indigenous local...), what is known, however, is the origin of the Oba of Benin, and it is Benin empire, in the capital of the empire.

googi:
When Yoruba wannabes cannot get facts to prove their fake imagination, they attack each other, one another and it becomes Ogiso king of the sky v. Edo.

No matter how you try, Yoruba culture and gods are still worshipped by your Royal House. They still bear Yoruba names and their linqu franca remain Yoruba dialect from the Yoruba language.

You guys are fun to watch as you dance naked in the market.

Christistruth03:

Sir alfred moloney
British Colonial Governor of Lagos 1890
Confirming that Lagos is Yorubaland and that Oyo Once Ruled over Benin
and to the Sea,

Christistruth03:

Alaafin Oranmiyan was the first Alaafin that was overlord over Benin ,

Christistruth03:
Document below is from
Sir alfred moloney
British Colonial Governor of Lagos 1890
Confirming that Lagos is Yorubaland and that Oyo Once Ruled over Benin
and to the Sea, the Eguns are a Brother Clan of the Ewe of Dahomey ,Oyo was their Overlord over all Egun and Ewe People from Badagry to Ghana

Including Allada Cotonou Whydah
Most of Dahomey and Togo and the East of the Volta River in Ghana

Alaafin Oranmiyan was the first Alaafin that was overlord over Benin ,

Oghodua:
the true story , there was no council of Yoruba obas, it was council of kings in western province at the time, the other midwestern kings were omitted to suit their selfish narrative

amdatdude:
So I have been on the internet watching various "Historians" on the Benin Kingdom. Unfortunately, there is something I felt has been quite dishonest about it's role in the trans Atlantic slave trade.
So I decided to ask an AI chatbot for honest answers. ChatGPT


What was benins role in the trans atlantic slave trade

Benin, a kingdom located in West Africa, was involved in the transatlantic slave trade primarily as a source of enslaved Africans. Beginning in the late 15th century, European traders established contacts with the coastal kingdoms of West Africa, including Benin, to exchange goods such as textiles, guns, and alcohol for enslaved people.

Benin's rulers and merchants played a significant role in this trade by capturing and selling people from neighboring regions and trading them to European slave traders. The slave trade had a devastating impact on the people of Benin, leading to widespread violence, displacement, and social disruption.

In addition to being a source of enslaved Africans, Benin was also a center for the production and trade of goods that were used to purchase enslaved people, such as palm oil, ivory, and gold. Benin's involvement in the transatlantic slave trade continued until the late 19th century, when European powers, including Britain, began to abolish the slave trade and colonialism gained hold in the region.


Isn't it true that benin kingdom prohibited the sale of slaves?

Yes, it is true that the Kingdom of Benin, also known as the Edo Kingdom, had a legal system that prohibited the sale of slaves within its own territory. This system, known as the "Customary Code of the Benin Kingdom," was established during the reign of Oba Ewuare the Great in the 15th century.

Under this code, it was illegal to sell any Benin citizen into slavery, and anyone who violated this law could be punished with death. However, the prohibition against the sale of slaves within Benin's borders did not extend to the sale of slaves to European traders for export to the Americas.

While the Benin Kingdom prohibited the sale of its own citizens into slavery, it did participate in the transatlantic slave trade as a supplier of slaves obtained from neighboring regions. The slave trade was a major source of income for the kingdom, and its rulers and merchants actively participated in the trade for several centuries, until the practice was abolished by European powers in the late 19th century.


which regions did benin acquire slaves from?

The Kingdom of Benin acquired slaves from various regions in West and Central Africa. Some of the areas that were major sources of slaves for Benin included:

The coastal regions of the Bight of Benin: The peoples living in the coastal areas of present-day Togo, Ghana, and Nigeria were often raided by Benin's armies, and many were captured and sold into slavery.

The interior regions of West Africa: Benin's armies would often raid the interior regions of West Africa, such as the Yoruba states, and capture people to be sold into slavery.

The Kingdom of Dahomey: Dahomey was a neighboring kingdom to Benin, and its rulers were also heavily involved in the slave trade. Many of the slaves that were sold by Dahomey were acquired through raiding neighboring regions.

Central Africa: Benin also acquired slaves from Central Africa through trade networks that extended across the continent. Slaves from the Congo Basin were brought to the coast and sold to European traders, often passing through Benin's ports.

It's important to note that the exact origins of enslaved people in the transatlantic slave trade are difficult to trace, and many people were captured and sold multiple times before they were finally sold to European traders.


what is the Customary Code of the Benin Kingdom

The Customary Code of the Benin Kingdom was a set of laws and regulations established by Oba Ewuare the Great of the Kingdom of Benin in the 15th century. The code was designed to regulate various aspects of life in the kingdom, including the sale and ownership of slaves.

Under the code, it was illegal to sell any Benin citizen into slavery, and anyone who violated this law could be punished with death. The code also regulated the ownership of slaves within the kingdom, setting rules for the treatment of slaves and the circumstances under which they could be sold or freed.

The code reflected the importance of social status in the Kingdom of Benin, with different rules and punishments applying to people of different classes. For example, slaves who committed crimes against free people were subject to harsher punishments than free people who committed the same crimes.

The Customary Code of the Benin Kingdom was an important legal and social institution in the kingdom, and it remained in force until the kingdom was annexed by the British in 1897. While the code prohibited the sale of Benin citizens into slavery, it did not extend to the sale of slaves to European traders for export to the Americas, and the kingdom was a major supplier of slaves to the transatlantic slave trade.



what happened the kingdom of benins decrease in population?

The Kingdom of Benin experienced a significant decrease in population in the 19th century, largely as a result of the transatlantic slave trade and the wars and raids that accompanied it.

The slave trade was a major source of income for the kingdom, and its rulers and merchants actively participated in the trade for several centuries, capturing and selling people from neighboring regions to European traders for export to the Americas. The export of so many people led to a significant decrease in the population of the region, as well as the disruption of social and economic systems.

In addition to the slave trade, the Kingdom of Benin also faced military conflicts with neighboring kingdoms, including Dahomey and the British Empire. These conflicts resulted in the loss of lives and the displacement of people from their homes, further contributing to the decrease in population.

The British Empire annexed the Kingdom of Benin in 1897, and this marked the beginning of a new era in the region. The British introduced new systems of governance and economic development, which eventually led to the population of the region recovering and growing again. However, the legacy of the transatlantic slave trade and the wars and conflicts of the past continued to shape the region and its people for many years to come.


Oxford University ‘rewarding slavery twice’ by repatriating Benin Bronzes

Deadria Farmer-Paellmann, the founder of the Restitution Study Group (RSG) campaigning for reparative justice for slave descendants in the US, has engaged British legal experts to help pressure UK institutions into reversing their repatriation plans.

She has urged Oxford’s leadership to “immediately suspend your plans to repatriate these objects to Nigeria”, adding: “It is morally indefensible to make such a determination against the express wishes of those of us in the UK, the US and the Commonwealth, whose ancestors literally gave their lives so that the Bronzes could be created in the first place.

“Your proposed actions to repatriate the Bronzes would have the effect of rewarding slavery twice.”

The artefacts were made over several centuries for royalty in the Kingdom of Benin – now absorbed into Nigeria – before they were taken in a punitive raid by the British in 1897. European metal tokens known as “manillas” were often melted down to create them.

https:///ekq3d


Benin Bronzes made of German brass

Researchers have long suspected that the brass used to create the impressive sculptures was transported to Benin via Portuguese trade routes in the 15th century, but they haven't been able to pinpoint where the metals originated in Europe.

A study published Wednesday by researchers at the Technische Hochschule Georg Agricola in the German city of Bochum offers evidence that much of the material used to create Benin's 16th and 17th century bronzes came from Germany's Rhineland region.

"The Benin Bronzes are the most famous ancient works of art in all West Africa," study author Tobias Skowronek said in a statement. "Finally, we can prove the totally unexpected: the brass used for the Benin masterpieces, long thought to come from Britain or Flanders, was mined in western Germany. This is the first time a scientific link has been made."

https://p.dw.com/p/4PhuL

Ghostwon8222:

I'm done talking to you, you are too retarded to talk to me. For your information, the Portuguese embassy in Abuja is not a bunch of historians or time travellers. It is just common ordinary people.
Whatever they said is totally irrelevant.
They didn't witness our ancestors!
Why are you retarded?

And the Portuguese ancestors who witnessed our ancestors didn't say what these Portuguese are saying !
Talking to a 9 year old is less irritating than talking to you. Your stvpidity is at an extremely high level.
Look, I don't owe you anything, I don't need to keep educating you or to keep having dvmb conversations with you. Your brain is not fit for an adult. You are just a waste of space on earth.

Thebadpolitican:


Ghostwon I don't know if you're on Facebook but you should check out the link , it's a Benin history discussion the white are spewing their misconceptions about benin history , I think you're in a better position to share some knowledge

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0KkSTX4JRK3qcadGsR9SKZntZjxw9AEoePY3gYavnyrGayCieRYmgfLD9JvM6iFc7l&id=100063639022730&mibextid=Nif5oz

Ghostwon82221:

Sorry, I don't have a Facebook account anymore, I deactivated most of my social media accounts in order to not get too addicted to social media and to not waste time. It is funny that we have some Edo people whom are active on social media and whom are very popular, but instead of doing serious history, all they do is talk about fairytales like oduduwa... This is why Europeans can say anything about us unchecked, because we basically have nothing to say since we are confusing fairytales with history like children do, whereas those who want to steal our artefacts (the Europeans) and their African American puppets are looking more serious and down to earth and more credible than us.
They have estimated that our artifacts are worth more than 30 billion dollars, and the thieves in Europe and America want that cash. Out of nowhere we are now apparently the sole responsible for slavery and our ancestral heritage must be kept away from us for slavery...meanwhile bastard Charles is being coronated and he gets to keep his ancestral bastard heritage and ours... Meanwhile the British, the Portuguese, the French, the Dutch and many other Europeans were the real slave merchants and kidnappers and all ...

Ghostwon82221:
I tried some time ago to help one famous blogger/media personality to understand history better in order for him to do his job better and represent the interests of the Oba and the people better (information is power), but he just went on insulting me. Only Nigerians will insult you when you try to give them free education.

Again, you make claims.
For your information, you need to back up your claims.
There is no written record of the region which dates back to the 12th century AD, so making claims about that period of time is just an other of your unprovable claims.
As it is on documents about Abeokuta, it was established by former slaves (the egbas). All you said is myth at best.

Smartguyboy:
Slave trade lasted for over 300 years so the only way for any kingdom to survive is to join the trade or watch your community destroy by other slavers.

Christistruth00:


Kingdoms Like Owo and Ekitis hardly got involved in the Slave Trade and the Egba Kingdom was not Keen on it

Christistruth00:


Kingdoms Like Owo and Ekitis hardly got involved in the Slave Trade and the Egba Kingdom was not Keen on it

Smartguyboy:

How about that lady call Efunroye Tinubu?

laiperi:


Foreign or local slave trade?