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Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Devopsguy: 11:27am On Nov 05, 2023
Last year many people where disturbing this forum with ALX software engineering 12 month program. My question is where are they working now, does it mean that they don't graduate? why the sudden silence about ALX after just one year of social media marketing.

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by LikeAking: 11:45am On Nov 05, 2023
Devopsguy:
Last year many people where disturbing this forum with ALX software engineering 12 month program. My question is where are they working now, does it mean that they don't graduate? why the sudden silence about ALX after just one year of social media marketing.

I also spoke about it and I was badly criticized..

You don’t train thousand of people within a short space of time without any plan to give them a job..

ALX use dem cash out..

It’s was all for the money..

Secondly their program can’t train solid programmers.. Programming is not learnt that way..

The whole tech noise has died down..

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Devopsguy: 12:33pm On Nov 05, 2023
LikeAking:


I also spoke about it and I was badly criticized..

You don’t train thousand of people within a short space of time without any plan to give them a job..

ALX use dem cash out..

It’s was all for the money..

Secondly their program can’t train solid programmers.. Programming is not learnt that way..

The whole tech noise has died down..



I heard that they are now charging $400 for SWE. It is only a fool that will pay that amount for that joke of a program

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by kristian98(m): 12:56pm On Nov 05, 2023
LikeAking:


I also spoke about it and I was badly criticized..

You don’t train thousand of people within a short space of time without any plan to give them a job..

ALX use dem cash out..

It’s was all for the money..

Secondly their program can’t train solid programmers.. Programming is not learnt that way..

The whole tech noise has died down..



What's is your issue with the Alx program?
They give you a tailored learning pathway to becoming a software engineer unlike learning from YouTube without direction.

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by LikeAking: 1:01pm On Nov 05, 2023
Devopsguy:
I heard that they are now charging $400 for SWE. It is only a fool that will pay that amount for that joke of a program

They are cashing out..

@ The man selling the shovel during the gold rush theory..
Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Devopsguy: 1:10pm On Nov 05, 2023
LikeAking:


They are cashing out..

@ The man selling the shovel during the gold rush theory..


The only thing they learn very well in that program is how to be a specialist in copy and paste. All of them, including their self acclaimed mentors who are their former students.

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by kristian98(m): 1:15pm On Nov 05, 2023
Devopsguy:
The only thing they learn very well in that program is how to be a specialist in copy and paste. All of them, including their self acclaimed mentors who are their former students.
Alx is a good product else they won't be able to sell it for $400.
You that didn't go through Alx, can you swear that you've never done copy and paste? Besides, when you get to the printf and simple shell project, you can't copy and paste your way through

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by DissTroy(m): 2:28pm On Nov 05, 2023
Begin with W3SChools or Freecodecamp. The former has better UI and UX, and better IDE. Mobile-friendly too so you can learn on the go.

Download and watch HD tutorial videos from Freecodecamp and Simplilearn YouTube pages.

Practice.

Watch same tutorials over and over again, and even the web apps to practice.

Then take tracked certificate courses to get graded for the same things you have learnt. W3Schools and Freecodecamp again. Coursera courses aren't so updated but take them.

Join Twitter/X. Follow a few tech topics - web development, UI/UX... Over the next few months, follow those with helpful tips

Get updated regularly.

Most importantly, as you learn, connect with folks learning and working in your areas of specialty, virtually and in-person. They abound in your city too.

Avoid getting distracted by the endless controversies and hot takes on Twitter and social media as a whole as you connect. Mute them or just read but don't engage.

You lose hours daily which you could spend learning arguing with strangers on fleetingly topical issues.


You can still learn and live a normal life away from the crazy schedule that is the ALX programme. ALX would leave you no time to earn and pay your bills.

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Devopsguy: 2:33pm On Nov 05, 2023
kristian98:

Alx is a good product else they won't be able to sell it for $400.
You that didn't go through Alx, can you swear that you've never done copy and paste? Besides, when you get to the printf and simple shell project, you can't copy and paste your way through
People are not buying the course. I can tell you for free. That's why there is so much silence about alx this time around unlike before. Who pays $400 for youtube links and blog posts links. Another thing is that they don't even have enough staff for their program. That's why they do peer review where your friend gives you 200% because he is your friend and not because you got all the marks.
Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Devopsguy: 2:44pm On Nov 05, 2023
DissTroy:
Begin with W3SChools or Freecodecamp. The former has better UI and UX, and better IDE. Mobile-friendly too so you can learn on the go.

Download and watch HD tutorial videos from Freecodecamp and Simplilearn YouTube pages.

Practice.

Watch same tutorials over and over again, and even the web apps to practice.

Then take tracked certificate courses to get graded for the same things you have learnt. W3Schools and Freecodecamp again. Coursera courses aren't so updated but take them.

Join Twitter/X. Follow a few tech topics - web development, UI/UX... Over the next few months, follow those with helpful tips

Get updated regularly.

Most importantly, as you learn, connect with folks learning and working in your areas of specialty, virtually and in-person. They abound in your city too.

Avoid getting distracted by the endless controversies and hot takes on Twitter and social media as a whole as you connect. Mute them or just read but don't engage.

You lose hours daily which you could spend learning arguing with strangers on fleetingly topical issues.


You can still learn and live a normal life away from the crazy schedule that is the ALX programme. ALX would leave you no time to earn and pay your bills.

That's the thing, 70hrs per week. Who does that. They don't even understand the law of diminishing return and work life balance.
Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by ManAdii: 3:03pm On Nov 05, 2023
Most people bashing ALX on this thread either didn't make it passed application phase or dropped out because they couldn't meet up.
Person give una free thing una still dy complain. Na wa o

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Devopsguy: 3:33pm On Nov 05, 2023
ManAdii:
Most people bashing ALX on this thread either didn't make it passed application phase or dropped out because they couldn't meet up.
Person give una free thing una still dy complain. Na wa o
It's not free
Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Sheriman(m): 3:45am On Nov 06, 2023
ALX this ALX that all of una eyes don dey clear now body don calm down
Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by SavageBoy: 7:43am On Nov 06, 2023
Many persons who enroll in programs like Alx, Altschool, and co often have unrealistic expectations about what to expect in the field of tech.

I was among the first batch of students that registered for Altschool. A lot of folks who enrolled for the program had really massive constructive imaginations.

Some were talking about getting a $10K/month job after graduation. One even said he can't wait to start working in Google by the time he gets his Altschool diploma 😂

When th program began, we just saw that it wasn't worth the social media hype it had. Many of us had to voluntarily stop to be more effective in our learning.

I don't know of Alx, but from the little I've gotten from folks who took the program, I think they did a great job. At least were much better than Altschool.

All in all, success in tech still boils down to one's personal effort, dedication, and consistency. I don't really subscribe to these naija bootcamps or whatever they call them.

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by prohet: 9:08am On Nov 06, 2023
Regardless of whatever anyone will say! When it comes to tech there are different approach to it. Sometimes it may not be appealing to you but the thing here is that in ALX you will definitely have direction of what to do and expect, everything still boils down to personal efforts you put in to build yourself.

Alx is really doing a good job!
Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Devopsguy: 9:36am On Nov 06, 2023
SavageBoy:
Many persons who enroll in programs like Alx, Altschool, and co often have unrealistic expectations about what to expect in the field of tech.

I was among the first batch of students that registered for Altschool. A lot of folks who enrolled for the program had really massive constructive imaginations.

Some were talking about getting a $10K/month job after graduation. One even said he can't wait to start working in Google by the time he gets his Altschool diploma 😂

When th program began, we just saw that it wasn't worth the social media hype it had. Many of us had to voluntarily stop to be more effective in our learning.

I don't know of Alx, but from the little I've gotten from folks who took the program, I think they did a great job. At least were much better than Altschool.

All in all, success in tech still boils down to one's personal effort, dedication, and consistency. I don't really subscribe to these naija bootcamps or whatever they call them.
People need to lower their expectation when it comes to bootcamps. Most of the CEOs of these bootcamps are marketers and skilled salesmen who can sell ice to an eskimo.

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Devopsguy: 9:40am On Nov 06, 2023
prohet:
Regardless of whatever anyone will say! When it comes to tech there are different approach to it. Sometimes it may not be appealing to you but the thing here is that in ALX you will definitely have direction of what to do and expect, everything still boils down to personal efforts you put in to build yourself.

Alx is really doing a good job!
You don't learn by bringing thousands of inexperienced folks and tell them to learn from one another with little or no guidance.The only alternative they have is to go to github and copy from the repository of their former students and get 200% score. That is not education.

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by bassdow: 6:19pm On Nov 07, 2023
Devopsguy:
Last year many people where disturbing this forum with ALX software engineering 12 month program. My question is where are they working now, does it mean that they don't graduate? why the sudden silence about ALX after just one year of social media marketing.

bros. those doing those ADVERTs, na work dem dey find. what else.

just like some people are more interested in teaching you how to trade FOREX, than trade it themselves. Even when you see them tradde in your presence, most times, na demo

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by bassdow: 6:23pm On Nov 07, 2023
Devopsguy:
People need to lower their expectation when it comes to bootcamps. Most of the CEOs of these bootcamps are marketers and skilled salesmen who can sell ice to an eskimo.

Most Antendees of all these BootCamps abroad, hardly get 25% good, let alone those organized by our felow Nigerians.

those organizers feed on HYPEs hence their courses are mostly what's in vogue. they give you that feeling that once you attend, you are MADE.

I just love ma kinda person - peer pressure hardly get effect on me, let alone things such as these.

You want to learn things those in it learnt in over 3-years within less than 1-month. To make matters more interesting, most of those in attendance lack analytical reasoning. Who knows, when faced with technical challenges (like some servers or codes go misbehave so tey wetin no suppose take 5-minutes go pass 1-day), they just might bring religion into it.

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by sanmisamuel: 7:25pm On Nov 07, 2023
Devopsguy:
Last year many people where disturbing this forum with ALX software engineering 12 month program. My question is where are they working now, does it mean that they don't graduate? why the sudden silence about ALX after just one year of social media marketing.

Some of them are still in the program and Some have dropped out. Ask those that actually graduated from the program, they will tell you. It's a life changing experience.

I'm not looking to sell the program. I got it free. But what I learnt, I am grateful for.

If you follow the program's path well, without copying and pasting, you don't succumb to the pressure of passing the threshold.

You would do well, and I mean very well.

Getting a job is dependent on how well you can sell yourself.

But if it is about building a project and you claim to pass through alx. Not copy and paste through. Forget it.

One thing I know and seen is they get jobs. Most of them end up backend engineers .

https://github.com/gayanvoice/top-github-users.git

Check the top contributors in Nigeria . You would see alx and micro verse.

I can vouch for their engineers

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by nokspos: 4:06pm On Nov 08, 2023
Everywhere I turn to these days, there's always advert of "learn programing", "learn software engineering". Nigerians no dey hear there's money in one field. I can't even count the numbers of calls i receive in a month... even people that does not know how to use computer want to learn programing.

if you don't have passion for these thing, even if they combine mark zuckerberg with bill gate to train you, you will come out unproductive

A real software engineer will not even have time to train you, once these htm css javascript engineer want to cash out , they turn it to training. Is your trainer working with google ? I knew the alx thing won't work from day one.

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Devopsguy: 8:18pm On Nov 09, 2023
bassdow:


bros. those doing those ADVERTs, na work dem dey find. what else.

just like some people are more interested in teaching you how to trade FOREX, than trade it themselves. Even when you see them tradde in your presence, most times, na demo
That is it
Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Devopsguy: 8:19pm On Nov 09, 2023
nokspos:
Everywhere I turn to these days, there's always advert of "learn programing", "learn software engineering". Nigerians no dey hear there's money in one field. I can't even count the numbers of calls i receive in a month... even people that does not know how to use computer want to learn programing.

if you don't have passion for these thing, even if they combine mark zuckerberg with bill gate to train you, you will come out unproductive

A real software engineer will not even have time to train you, once these htm css javascript engineer want to cash out , they turn it to training. Is your trainer working with google ? I knew the alx thing won't work from day one.
Na waah oh
Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by Devopsguy: 8:23pm On Nov 09, 2023
sanmisamuel:


Some of them are still in the program and Some have dropped out. Ask those that actually graduated from the program, they will tell you. It's a life changing experience.

I'm not looking to sell the program. I got it free. But what I learnt, I am grateful for.

If you follow the program's path well, without copying and pasting, you don't succumb to the pressure of passing the threshold.

You would do well, and I mean very well.

Getting a job is dependent on how well you can sell yourself.

But if it is about building a project and you claim to pass through alx. Not copy and paste through. Forget it.

One thing I know and seen is they get jobs. Most of them end up backend engineers .

https://github.com/gayanvoice/top-github-users.git

Check the top contributors in Nigeria . You would see alx and micro verse.

I can vouch for their engineers
Bros a good software engineer is not determined by the number of commits on github. Quality over quantity.

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by 28plus: 9:41am On Nov 10, 2023
If you're planning to attend any bootcamp in Nigeria, get it at the back of your mind that no bootcamp will help you to get a job. And yes, not even Decagon. They will promise you heaven and earth but nothing will come out of it. Of course there are few exceptions, but overall, only one person might end up getting a job out of many.

There's one bootcamp I am seeing their advert now on front page, I attended one of their cohorts, the way they dumped us after the training ehn, it shocked us. And they are in the top 5 in Lagos.

The least I expected from them was a resume revamp, but six months later, not even a single phone call.

Attending a bootcamp is like an investment, and part of the return on investment should be job or internship placements. I can tell you that no Nigerian bootcamp can guarantee that. They will just sweet talk you to cashout from you.

I'm telling you this from experience.

Looking back now, I regret attending the bootcamp. Most of the stack they taught us are no longer in use. React that is in use, they no sabi am. They just used 2 days to teach it.

God no go shame us for this industry

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by DissTroy(m): 10:13am On Nov 12, 2023
Devopsguy:
Bros a good software engineer is not determined by the number of commits on github. Quality over quantity.

Shockingly, some of the most accomplished (famed) devs and others in the space I know don't even have standard professional portfolios. Probably due to job security or industry name recognition.

I mean, Burna Boy, Wizkid, or Davido wouldn't need a VIP tag at the Headies or AMA, right? They are the tags themselves - those with them get instant VIP recognition.

But most devs don't have that regional or global name recognition so proofs-of-work like GitHub and standard portfolios come in handy and helps you case, saving the stress of repetitive questions and sending proofs. One or the other.
Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by airsaylongcome: 11:24am On Nov 12, 2023
Devopsguy:
That's the thing, 70hrs per week. Who does that. They don't even understand the law of diminishing return and work life balance.

It's a full time dedicated programme. Not for people working. 70hrs per week is expected in such intense programs. Anyone who cannot deliver 70hrs per week for a year is probably not ready for the high pressure work of SWE

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by airsaylongcome: 11:31am On Nov 12, 2023
28plus:

Looking back now, I regret attending the bootcamp. Most of the stack they taught us are no longer in use. React that is in use, they no sabi am. They just used 2 days to teach it.

God no go shame us for this industry

What stacks are those?
Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by atesunate16(m): 11:43am On Nov 12, 2023
LikeAking:


I also spoke about it and I was badly criticized..

You don’t train thousand of people within a short space of time without any plan to give them a job..

ALX use dem cash out..

It’s was all for the money..

Secondly their program can’t train solid programmers.. Programming is not learnt that way..

The whole tech noise has died down..




Are you a graduate of alx?

If yes, you wasted your 1 year doing nothing

If no, you know nothing

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Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by LikeAking: 12:15pm On Nov 12, 2023
atesunate16:


Are you a graduate of alx?

If yes, you wasted your 1 year doing nothing

If no, you know nothing


I just realized na small pikin u b. 2020 graduate. So u never understand life..

Continue capping careless…
Re: Where Are Those People Making Noise About ALX And Doing Hard Things . by atesunate16(m): 6:40pm On Nov 12, 2023
LikeAking:



I just realized na small pikin u b. 2020 graduate. So u never understand life..

Continue capping careless…




Lol, you are wrong with your research boss man


Let’s not derail


I’m in month 9 in alx


Are you an alx graduate or not?


No one passes through the system without a shift, except the person intentionally wasted his time

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