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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 11:29pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
ehizario2012: 50M+ and still japa no be juju be that. Can never be me tho. Did he give any reason for his decision other than APC and BAT. would like to learn. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 11:36pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
Changed my mind. You have a different style of debate. It does make me feel like i m talking to myself. Can you watch uk political shows tomorrow? You won't see your style at all guaranteed. I m yielding the floor to you but i have not conceeded the point. Good day to you , Sir/Ma ReesheesuKnack: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 11:42pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
You lost me, i wont lie. The non dom status is unconscionable and unfair ,lying that you are not domiciled here when your whole family is here and you have a UK job you have to go to everymorning. You ride on roads you dont pay for, are protected by police you dont pay for, look at clean streets you dont pay for, You are not contributing to the training of your kids teachers or your own doctors and nurses . All the politicians and members of their family discovered doing it had to stop it and start paying full tax eg Rishis wife. Even they know its indefensible. Its about time it was stopped. ReesheesuKnack: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 11:56pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
ReesheesuKnack: Even if they are diagnosed as fit to work? This is what i was saying this people will never work even if there are jobs for them. Working class oyinbo sef go tell you that " some of their people are lazy" |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 12:15am On Dec 12, 2023 |
gmacnoms: We are really contributing hugely into the UK economy. How i wish our Rulers in Nigeria would repent from their sins. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Amazoner01: 12:20am On Dec 12, 2023 |
ehizario2012:Lol |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 12:28am On Dec 12, 2023 |
ehizario2012: You forget that what a white man does and goes unquestioned if that black man run am dem fit rope am? Not everything are as they seems. 7 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 12:33am On Dec 12, 2023 |
profemebee: In all of this all i have to say is as a black man you will always be a second class citizen in a white mans land. if you like get ILR 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 12:37am On Dec 12, 2023 |
ehizario2012: Bros you broke the law simple. own it and repent. This is why where we run from is the way it is. We dont agree we are wrong always looking for excuses or putting the blame on something. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 12:51am On Dec 12, 2023 |
ReesheesuKnack: We need to unlearn that naija mentality that has been embedded into our subconscious. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 12:56am On Dec 12, 2023 |
ReesheesuKnack: Cooker keep cooking. Saw what you did there |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 1:05am On Dec 12, 2023 |
where is lexus in all of this analysis? Be like you dey vacation in spain? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ReesheesuKnack: 1:15am On Dec 12, 2023 |
missjekyll: Better yield the floor. You come all the time to push a Labour agenda. You quoted Zahra as a good debater. Did you notice that Zahra29 debates without recourse to party-political affiliation? You, every time, you castigate the Tories. Paint the Tories as evil. Look at this thread, for the past 300+ pages. Search the thread and see how many times anyone (apart from you) has infused Tory this, Tory that on the thread. You portray Labour as the messiahs. Very small push back like this, very tiny pushback, you collapse like a pack of cards. Like I mentioned, the 2014 Nigerian experience has shown clearly that castigating and painting a ruling party in bad light is not enough. You want us to vote Labour, to get the evil and wicked Tories out, but you are afraid of putting down labours” policies down in black and white to convince us. Tell us, how Labour will do it. That was how Osinbajo, Buhari, Fashola et al made noise in 2014. They pointed out all the evils of the GEJ/UMY/OBJ (16 years of waste). And failed to craft a policy on how they will achieve it. With hindsight, we now know that APC ( equivalent of the present day UK Labour Party) left nigeria worst than they met it. Elaborate on how Labour will do it. And spend less energy on your daily Nairaland Tory bashing. Then, you could win more votes for Labour. PS: I have met David Lammy 1-2-1. I read the Guardian. I watch the BBC. I watch GB News. I am an avid consumer of LBC’s James O’Brien. I voted Rupa Haq in 2017 and voted Daniel Zeichner in 2019. If Dianne Abbott stands next year, who knows, I may vote her. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by OgbeniOptional(m): 1:48am On Dec 12, 2023 |
Abeg I want to understand something o, assuming someone is on graduate visa and his family are already in UK. Let’s say he got sponsorship in healthcare after spring, will the UK send dependents back home? I have people panicking over this really. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by OgbeniOptional(m): 2:07am On Dec 12, 2023 |
lavida001: U fit love this country more than the locals? U better make your money and be happy. I relate with colleagues who are locals and talk politics and the reasons Rishi seems to be better to them than Boris is that he never partied during Covid and never lied to the queen or something. I also feel Starmer is promising some things that are not %100 realistic. Who even take politicians serious nowadays? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 2:27am On Dec 12, 2023 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ticha: 2:45am On Dec 12, 2023 |
Toh Australia is flexing their immigration policies powers too. There are also calls for caps on international student numbers and over all immigration numbers. The truth is they're targeting reduction to some specific nationalities but they obviously can't say those specific nationalities are not welcome so everyone gets caught in the reduction. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/dec/11/labor-targets-student-and-some-worker-visas-in-overhaul-of-australias-temporary-migration-program A very close family member has just received her student visa to Australia for a PhD. She paid an initial deposit was £27k and £15k of that was health insurance for a family of 3 for 3 years and the rest was one full semester's fees upfront. Then she also had to pay £289 to the state government to apply for an approval to enrol her children in a state school - there are no school fees because she is a PhD student but if she was going as a masters student, she would have had to also pay school fees of £1800 per year, per child upfront and attach receipts to the visa application. Medicals cost N210k and her daughter had to redo her medicals twice as she was just on the threshold for weight - basically they put her on a diet for 2 weeks o so she could fall under the weight threshold. Visa fees was approx £450 so that wasn't too bad. She had to provide 12 months statements of accounts with the last 6 months of the 12 months showing a closing balance of a minimum of £40k. The visa took almost 5 months to process and she had to defer her start date twice. They then requested an updated bank statement 2 days before they issued the visa. The upside is that she can work full time all year round as a PhD student and the dept gave her 27 hours straight away. Masters and lower quals can only work 40 hours a fortnight in term time and full time over the breaks. The salary threshold for work visas is around £34k ish and average salaries are around £47k so not too bad as a starting point for skilled migrants. Australia houses their asylum seekers mostly offshore and have always done that; Under the Migration Act 1958 (Cth) (the Migration Act), asylum seekers who arrive in Australia, whether on the mainland or an 'excised offshore place', without a valid visa must be held in immigration detention until they are granted a visa or removed from Australia. Immigration detention in Australia is indefinite – there is no limit in law or policy to the length of time for which a person may be detained. If you change your mind and don't want to seek asylum anymore, you basically have to wait your turn to be processed and because you're not on the mainland, you can't even get out of the place! NZ is more humane but they take a very, very small number of asylum seekers and no one get liver to cross sea come here. It has some of the choppiest waters in the world. So all asylum seekers come by invitation and the numbers are tightly controlled. Average salaries in NZ is about £30k and the minimum salary for a skilled migrant visa is £40k. Both countries have age caps of 45 years max. Unless you're mega wealthy then it's 55 years for those visa categories. NZ does also have parent visas so you can bring your parents after you gain residency but you must have a combined house hold income of £41k if bringing one parent or £61k if bringing both parents and they must pass a health and character check. Children are also dependants until 24 as long as they remain in education or training and do not have a child themselves, What both Australia and NZ have going for them is the sheer amount of jobs with not enough skilled people to do it. Even our PM has at least 3 ministerial portfolios in addition to being the PM! Majority of immigrants leave once they gain either PR or citizenship so the vacancies are never really filled. Even Israel Adesanya has japa-ed to the US! Both countries also are very selective and harsh when it comes to immigration. NZ is the size of the UK with only 5.5m people and their citizens shout about how the country is over run by immigrants - probably not surprising as majority of them were originally British (mainly Scottish and Irish) so they're expert whingers about every single thing! They as usual also play political football with immigration rules all the time. Australia is about 32 times the size of the UK with 22m people and again they whinge about uncontrolled immigration. Just like the Kiwis, they're all also mostly originally British (convicts, general immigrants and explorers). Let us not even start on the racism in Australia and the way they treat the aborigines. Anyhow - we must survive, we must emigrate and we must succeed and we will rule with them when the time comes whether they like it or not 41 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 4:16am On Dec 12, 2023 |
lavida001: Nice one. I thought of this too and it was what finally calmed me down. The black guy actually had limited options. Maybe na ontop e head Dem for apply the rule to the letter! I expected people to have said that since but instead na so so law Dem dey quote. I understood his limitations. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 4:20am On Dec 12, 2023 |
lavida001: How much is N50M in Nigeria of today?? In that toxic economy?? I've seen people that sum into startup businesses and those businesses gradually died over 18 months... Turnover kept dropping till guy enter debt. Useless leaders. 6 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by deept(m): 5:07am On Dec 12, 2023 |
lavida001: My brother, I was going to say same thing. I was in a position like this years ago at one logistics company like that giving juicy routes to our people. Just one day where I knew the supervisors were watching, did everything by the book 100% ant our people didn't get what they wanted, I was called names by same people I had always given an advantage. They expected me to favour them at the risk of me losing my job then. People are selfish and of they don't get their way there is always tag you badly. 6 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by deept(m): 5:32am On Dec 12, 2023 |
ReesheesuKnack: I remember the debate between Trump and Hillary where she accused him of not paying taxes. Baba agreed with his full chest and said you have been in Congress for donkey years, why haven't you changed the rules, your donors take advantage of the loopholes too. The reason they are making noise is to give them an advantage at the polls, I Don't want to believe labour MPs and supporters don't avoid tax tax using the non Dom rules. Two conclusions I have come to with govt and the economy are: 1. Government does not care about you 2. You can't tax your way to prosperity. 1 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Thegamingorca(m): 6:49am On Dec 12, 2023 |
Ticha: Dang |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:51am On Dec 12, 2023 |
OgbeniOptional: My brother I always have a laugh anytime I remember say na ogogoro make Boris loose im position |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:54am On Dec 12, 2023 |
OgbeniOptional: That’s the new rule except he gets a job in the nhs |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Phenmeson(m): 7:57am On Dec 12, 2023 |
ehizario2012: Morning Boss. I work in that sector and can tell you that our people push through the gate without paying for their fare on daily basis. The annoying part of it is you see Granny,with their child in early 40's and Grandkids (teens) intentionally traveling without paying for their fare. They all believe the transport shd be free but you see them at the Airport travelling abroad with a family of 6. For London people,na God knows how much they even dey generate as income.if U waka go Peckham Rye na minority of dem you see paying Train ticket. Thank your destiny that you were issued a penalty fare and not prosecution. God bless 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by DoDirtsLikeWorm(m): 8:00am On Dec 12, 2023 |
ehizario2012: It is all your fault, you should have bought ticket with the cash, you know the rules. Meanwhile, these laws were never put in place because they saw you, it has been here before you arrive. I know you were thinking he ought to show sympathy, especially when you were with kids, but doing so means he isn't doing his job well....yes he cannot be fining whites and leave Blacks. I found myself in doing that kind of job at some point here and I know he was expected to bring in some numbers on a daily, so they won't listen & can call in the police. I couldn't take it then, so I began to find an alternative ASAP because I have issued tickets to people who cried that they do not have enough money ;YET, I showed no concern because the pressure was behind me. Although the JOB made me to know what the Police are facing back at home (to bring something IN) which has made them to be brutal. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Treadway: 8:01am On Dec 12, 2023 |
ehizario2012:lol....my guy you dey whine me abi...No be im calm you down ooo, and you didn't think of it then😁. You only just realised it now, cos if you realised this at the time, you still won't be pissed about the experience now. Lavida001 gave a very very wise take, even I didn't reason it to that level. With his take, it is easy to see why we shouldn't be in a haste to judge certain things, and from the foregoing, to not take some things personal. Anyway, what is past is past. Now you know he probably was just trying to play safe and follow the rules, and was not 'doing too much' despite being a fellow black. Tru tru, bridge wey whitey go cross and nothing go happen, if blackie sef cross am, the speed with which the bridge go collapse go shock am..lol 6 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Treadway: 8:06am On Dec 12, 2023 |
deept:eggzactly ooo....that is one thing I believe many people can learn from this back and forth. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Treadway: 8:08am On Dec 12, 2023 |
deept:na so. Tax avoidance is different from tax evasion. One is legal....and legal means legal. Shikena😁💯 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Treadway: 8:09am On Dec 12, 2023 |
Goke7:the sheer amount of applications that will start hitting the NHS from now ehn.... E go choooooooookee. Lol |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 8:48am On Dec 12, 2023 |
Treadway: Make Una take am easy no crash the nhs website o, before dem change am again for us as immigrants 😂 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Hkana: 9:07am On Dec 12, 2023 |
Ticha: And on top of this, is it true there are no tax free thresholds for foreigners? The way UK leaves 12570 before they start the 19/20% tax? |
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