Kobojunkie:
The issue here is Jesus Christ — His teachings and commandments, God's Law — seems more of an afterthought to you than anything else. You seem to be under some idea that everything Jesus Christ said must be interpreted based on your ideas of what is presented in the rest of the New Testament— Ideas mostly culled from that which you have gleaned from your religious leaders. This is as opposed to validating everything else presented in the rest of the New Testament against that which was first spoken by Jesus Christ. Why?

Am resting my case as you cannot provide an evidence to prove your notion, hence you have no proof.
Case closed, isn't it?

Hanndye:
■ Am resting my case as you cannot provide an evidence to prove your notion, hence you have no proof. Case closed, isn't it?

WOw.... the famous argument by Pigheadedness Christians are notorious for using!

The invincible ignorance fallacy, also known as an argument by pigheadedness, is a deductive fallacy of circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word. The method used in this fallacy is either to make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, anecdotal, etc. or saying that they are proof of nothing, all without actually demonstrating how the objection fit these terms. It is similar to the ad lapidem fallacy, in which the person rejects all the evidence and logic presented, without providing any evidence or logic that could lead to a different conclusion.

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Kobojunkie:
WOw.... the famous argument by Pigheadedness Christians are notorious for using!

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You had based your notion on the Bible and I asked you to to provide the evidence from the same Book and you couldn't. But now you want to go philosophical. That means you lost in the line of Bible truth.
'Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.' 2 Timothy 2:15. is an admonition from Paul to Timothy. Try and do the same. You will be glad you did. Peace.

Hanndye:
■ You had based your notion on the Bible and I asked you to to provide the evidence from the same Book and you couldn't. But now you want to go philosophical. That means you lost in the line of Bible truth.
'Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.' 2 Timothy 2:15. is an admonition from Paul to Timothy. Try and do the same. You will be glad you did. Peace.

The very pronouncement of Jesus Christ, the same one you pretend came to save you, are of my opinion? Yikes! So Jesus Christ who claimed to be the Word out of God's very own mouth is no longer so, according to you?

Yaa, this na definitely argument by pigheadedness at play here.
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Kobojunkie:
The very pronouncement of Jesus Christ, the same one you pretend came to save you, are of my opinion? Yikes! So Jesus Christ who claimed to be the Word out of God's very own mouth is no longer so, according to you?

Yaa, this na definitely argument by pigheadedness at play here.
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The woman in question was asking for a miracle and not salvation. Otherwise she would have been told to embrace Judaism and come close to the Master because of the incoming dispensation. Because of the incoming era even John was born, to make His way straight. John 1:22,23.

Hanndye:
■ The woman in question was asking for a miracle and not salvation. Otherwise she would have been told to embrace Judaism and come close to the Master because of the incoming dispensation. Because of the incoming era even John was born, to make His way straight. John 1:22,23.

Stop twisting yourself into knots over what is plainly written!

21 And Jesus went away from there and withdrew to the district of Tyre and Sidon.
22 And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and was crying, “ Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David ; my daughter is severely oppressed by a demon.” - Matthew 15 vs 21 - 22

The woman in question invoked mercy under the Covenant of David and then asked to be healed by Jesus Christ by it. That was the problem. That Covenant only applied as far as those who were of the Blood of Jacob.

Think of this a different way! According to the same you, Jesus Christ lived His Life in submission to the Old Law of Moses, so why would He have obliged her under the terms of a different Covenant that He was not even qualified to give to her?

Kobojunkie:
Stop twisting yourself into knots over what is plainly written!
The woman in question invoked mercy under the Covenant of David and then asked to be healed by Jesus Christ by it. That was the problem. That Covenant only applied as far as those who were of the Blood of Jacob.

Think of this a different way! According to the same you, Jesus Christ lived His Life in submission to the Old Law of Moses, so why would He have obliged her under the terms of a different Covenant that He was not even qualified to give to her?

It wasn't about racism or Israelites only, it was about being in the household of God. Are there not mixed-company among Israelites? These being people of other races that had joined themselves to the Jews. Even the favored people had to repent and have faith to receive from Jesus. It was about being in the household of God. Her faith in the Master, which even some Jews did not have, saved her daughter on that day. Her words shows she was on the right path.

Hanndye:
■ It wasn't about racism or Israelites only, it was about being in the household of God.
■ Are there not mixed-company among Israelites? These being people of other races that had joined themselves to the Jews.
■ Even the favored people had to repent and have faith to receive from Jesus. It was about being in the household of God.
■ Her faith in the Master, which even some Jews did not have, saved her daughter on that day.

So, you think that Jesus Christ's declaration seemed racist and so you felt the need to save Him by casting Him as some sort of liar? Interesting!

You speak of the household of God but forget that the same God declared that He is the God of not, the Philistines, the Canaanites, or the Amelekites, but instead the God of Israel. You forget that this is the same God who proclaimed that His only inheritance in the

7 Remember the days of old; consider the years of many generations; ask your father, and he will show you, your elders, and they will tell you.
8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders[a] of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
9 But the Lord's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage. - Deuteronomy 32 vs 7-9

If God Himself declared that His Household is that which is comprised of the descendants of Jacob— people with the blood of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob running through their veins —, and Jesus Christ was submitted to the Will of His Father, YHWH(God of Israel), why then do you consider it racist that Jesus Christ would declare that His Father sent Him only to the Lost sheep of Israel? Why not outright declare that the God of Israel was racist from the get-go and abandon Him altogether? Why choose to ignore the Word of Jesus Christ when His Words are in following with that which was decreed by His Father?

2. I am not certain why you feel the need to mention the mixed company when the instructions given by the God of Isreal clearly that the Covenants belong only to those who are of the blood of Israel— descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20? . How could they have joined themselves to the Jews(the Benjamites, Levites, and Judaic subset of the original Nation of Israel) without being joined to them by blood— the life of a man is in his blood— of Jacob? How?

3. These stories of yours reveal ignorance of Scripture. Right there in John 3 vs 14 - 18, Jesus Christ told you that the people He came to redeem were those who were judged and cursed by God as a result of their disobedience of His Old Law. The people who you say are favored by God were judged and condemned by Him to perish in the grave. Jesus Christ, like the bronze snake, came to offer them salvation from that condemnation aka Death that they were condemned to.

4. If you look up what God said in Genesis 26 vs 2-5, you would understand that to have faith simply means to live one's life in submission and obedience to God's Law. That is after all what Abraham did— have faith in God— and was hence justified by God for. As a foreigner living in the land of Canaan, even the Canaanite woman was required to abide by the Law of Moses which happened to the National Constitution of the nation at the time. And for that, she too earned faith, even though she was not of the blood of Jacob.

Yes, she had faith but her faith did not change the fact that she was not one of the Master's children, and as a foreigner she was entitled, even by The Old Law, only to the crumbs from the master's table. She said that herself, did she not? The Canaanite woman was not one of those whom He was sent to by His Father to redeem from the curse of the Old Law since by virtue of her not being an Israelite by birth— not of the blood of Israel —, she did not qualify.

Kobojunkie:
So, you think that Jesus Christ's declaration seemed racist and so you felt the need to save Him by casting Him as some sort of liar? Interesting!

You speak of the household of God but forget that the same God declared that He is the God of not, the Philistines, the Canaanites, or the Amelekites, but instead the God of Israel. You forget that this is the same God who proclaimed that His only inheritance in the
If God Himself declared that His Household is that which is comprised of the descendants of Jacob— people with the blood of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob running through their veins —, and Jesus Christ was submitted to the Will of His Father, YHWH(God of Israel), why then do you consider it racist that Jesus Christ would declare that His Father sent Him only to the Lost sheep of Israel? Why not outright declare that the God of Israel was racist from the get-go and abandon Him altogether? Why choose to ignore the Word of Jesus Christ when His Words are in following with that which was decreed by His Father?

2. I am not certain why you feel the need to mention the mixed company when the instructions given by the God of Isreal clearly that the Covenants belong only to those who are of the blood of Israel— descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20? . How could they have joined themselves to the Jews(the Benjamites, Levites, and Judaic subset of the original Nation of Israel) without being joined to them by blood— the life of a man is in his blood— of Jacob? How?

3. These stories of yours reveal ignorance of Scripture. Right there in John 3 vs 14 - 18, Jesus Christ told you that the people He came to redeem were those who were judged and cursed by God as a result of their disobedience of His Old Law. The people who you say are favored by God were judged and condemned by Him to perish in the grave. Jesus Christ, like the bronze snake, came to offer them salvation from that condemnation aka Death that they were condemned to.

4. If you look up what God said in Genesis 26 vs 2-5, you would understand that to have faith simply means to live one's life in submission and obedience to God's Law. That is after all what Abraham did— have faith in God— and was hence justified by God for. As a foreigner living in the land of Canaan, even the Canaanite woman was required to abide by the Law of Moses which happened to the National Constitution of the nation at the time. And for that, she too earned faith, even though she was not of the blood of Jacob.

Yes, she had faith but her faith did not change the fact that she was not one of the Master's children, and as a foreigner she was entitled, even by The Old Law, only to the crumbs from the master's table. She said that herself, did she not? The Canaanite woman was not one of those whom He was sent to by His Father to redeem from the curse of the Old Law since by virtue of her not being an Israelite by birth— not of the blood of Israel —, she did not qualify.

Luke 7:1-10
Jesus Heals a Centurion's Servant
7 After he had finished all his sayings in the hearing of the people, he entered Capernaum. 2 Now a centurion had a servant[a] who was sick and at the point of death, who was highly valued by him. 3 When the centurion[b] heard about Jesus, he sent to him elders of the Jews, asking him to come and heal his servant. 4 And when they came to Jesus, they pleaded with him earnestly, saying, “He is worthy to have you do this for him, 5 for he loves our nation, and he is the one who built us our synagogue.” 6 And Jesus went with them. When he was not far from the house, the centurion sent friends, saying to him, “Lord, do not trouble yourself, for I am not worthy to have you come under my roof. 7 Therefore I did not presume to come to you. But say the word, and let my servant be healed. 8 For I too am a man set under authority, with soldiers under me: and I say to one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and to another, ‘Come,’ and he comes; and to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.” 9 When Jesus heard these things, he marveled at him, and turning to the crowd that followed him, said, “I tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith.” 10 And when those who had been sent returned to the house, they found the servant well.
So by what criteria was the centurion's servant healed? By birth? You Israel Only-ners sef, una dey tire person.

Hanndye:
■ So by what criteria was the centurion's servant healed? By birth? You Israel Only-ners sef, una dey tire person.

The question has already been answered by the fact that the centurion never mentioned the Davidic Covenant in all of the passages you quoted. Your rejection of that which is clearly contained in the Gospels is from you and not my person.

Jesus Christ did not go around healing people in the name of Jesus Christ — the Davidic Covenant. No, He would have violated His Father had He done that. After all, He lived under the Old Law of Moses. Jesus Christ. Additionally, Jesus Christ wasn't Himself a Lost sheep of Israel. However, He came to deliver the Davidic Covenant, that which is Holy, only to the Lost sheep of Israel just as His Father, then God of Israel, commanded Him to. The agreement He had to give, the Davidic Covenant, was meant only for those who were of the Lost sheep of Israel.

Kobojunkie:
This "understanding" of yours supooses false the content of Scripture. The God of Israel revealed through His Prophets that His new agreement would be made with the House of Israel -- not just the Jewish subsection of it. it is indeed recorded that Salvation would begin with the Jewish subsection of Israel -- the House of Benjamin, Judah and Levi --, however, that in no way chances that revealed by God which is that the agreement belongs only to the House of Israel -- all 12 tribes only.

Jesus Christ said He was sent by His Father to the Lost sheep of Israel -- the House of Israel. Jesus Christ spoke the Truth of God. And He, Jesus Christ, never changed His Word, nor His mind regarding this. His Word is afterall the same yesterday, today, and forever more. So, why not believe Him?

Are not all Israel Jewish?

Nex123:
■ Are not all Israel Jewish?

Absolutely not!!!

▢ The term Jews was used to refer to the descendants of Levi, Benjamin, and Judah, who were Israelites from the Nation of Judah.
▢ The term Gentiles referred to the other descendants who were cut off from Jerusalem after the original Nation of Israel split into two Nations after the reign of Solomon. They are Israelites - Reuven, Shimon, Issachar, Zevulun, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Joseph.
▢ The term Samaritans, equally israelites, is connected majorly to the tribes of Ephraim & Manasseh who are under the Israelite tribe of Joseph.

Kobojunkie:
Absolutely not!!!

▢ The term Jews was used to refer to the descendants of Levi, Benjamin, and Judah, who were Israelites from the Nation of Judah.
▢ The term Gentiles referred to the other descendants who were cut off from Jerusalem after the original Nation of Israel split into two Nations after the reign of Solomon. They are Israelites - Reuven, Shimon, Issachar, Zevulun, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Joseph.
▢ The term Samaritans, equally israelites, is connected majorly to the tribes of Ephraim & Manasseh who are under the Israelite tribe of Joseph.

Hmm, I don't accept your gentile definition.
What are you proofs or backup for these terms

Nex123:
∆ Hmm, I don't accept your gentile definition.
What are you proofs or backup for these terms

What proof are you looking for? Proof that Jesus Christ was not lying when He declared that He was sent by His Father, the same who is YHWH, only to the Lost Sheep of Israel? Or do you need proof that when Jesus Christ warned His Disciples not to give that which is Holy - the Gospel -- to the Dogs aka the Non-israelites, He didn't mean that as a mistake? Or is it proof that when God of Israel announced through His prophets that His new Agreement, the Davidic, and New Law/Covenant He promised David included belonged to the House of Jacob - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34 that you seek ?