starlingleanets:
Caught the Revelation this evening why studying the Bible.The name of the Father Is *JESUS* Suprised?

efedua:
hum,,,, which Father?

tuwayz:
What is the verse pls

starlingleanets:
Heavenly Father

efedua:
hum,,,, so the one that spoke during Jesus baptism and Transfiguration was just an illusional fairy....please try Ur revelation with facts

starlingleanets:
John 17:11 and Phillipians 2:9-10

starlingleanets:
John 17:11 and Phillipians 2:9-10

twosquare:
the Father gave Jesus His own Name...there is a new Name Jesus bears that we all don't know yet...the name Jesus is the end of the cross. He finished and exhaust that Name in His earthly ministry. The new name is the name of the Father which He(Jesus) promised He will declare unto His brethren. That is why God highly exalted Him and gave Him a Name that is above every other name. It is the name of Him who has been from the beginning. Yeshua was exalted but we all still call Him Jesus but He won't reveal His new name until we come of age in the spirit. The Jesus of Nazareth is different from the Risen Lord(even though the same person.) So,saying the name of the Father is Jesus, is not actually accurate because that name is a syllabus for His earthly ministry.

starlingleanets:
See twisting here o. My guy since u say d new name is Yeshua,how is it New then? Because a new thing is unknown.Morever in Revelation "Only him knows the Name" How come u know about it?Or the Spirit of Prophecy is wrong?

starlingleanets:
John 17:11 and Phillipians 2:9-10

efedua:
see Isaiah 9:6,,, we are given to Christ by our heavenly Father that we may bear the spirit of sons unto Him through Christ by whom we are begotten into the Father. for as it was that all things came from God the Father by the Son so also it became all things to be brought into the Father by the Son whom was in Christ Jesus in the fullness of time. truly God revealed Himself In Christ Jesus by the Godhead as He had often done in the time of old in his chosen one. now that we are in Christ in whom God was in and Him in God being ordained a high priest by God to continue without an end of days, and by righteousness and obedience He was counted just before the law and He abode in God, we are also partakers of the life eternal which is the Father from whom we came from. see also Heb 5:1,4-5,7-10, Heb 4:12-15, Heb 3:1-2, Psalm 110:1,4, Heb 7:1-11,14-15, Rom 3:21, Tim 3:16, Phil 2:5-7, Gal 3:23-27 and Gal 4:1,4-5

twosquare:
I do not say the new name is Yeshua, pls read it again..that's the hebrew word for Jesus. I said He was given another Name which we don't know yet and at the mention of this name Jesus(of Nazareth) bears, every tongue will confess and knees bow...so, when u say in the Name of Jesus...u are actually using Jesus of Nazareth to connect that Name.

starlingleanets:
Wrong bro,the name is not yet given. The name Jesus is the name dats above other name there is no connecting to any other new name

twosquare:
funny...it has been given in Hebrews chapter 1 and 2.... When u see people praying In Jesus' Name...in actual sense,to put it more clearly; in the Name that belongs to Jesus- that's the meaning. If is not yet given, then Phillipians wasn't right when it said that He was given a Name above every other Names...:hebrews 1 and 2 expantiate on that event in Phillipians. The name Jesus who is a Nazarene is for the earthly domain but another was conferred on Him at resurrection which is superior to the Name of the angelic. The name Jesus was pronounced via the mouth of an angel; why this new name was given by the Father of all spirits Himselfm "...this day have I begotten you."

starlingleanets:
You sent the Angel,or Father sent him? Speaking ur words or the Father's word? If u can't answer dis questions u can keep mute

twosquare:
He shall be named Jesus coz he will deliver the people from their sins. That's the meaning of Jesus and the end of Jesus is the cross. That's the syllabus. You yourself said in revelation He has a name no one knows but Him. In other words, the name Jesus is not the actual name. It is just temporal. The Father sent angel Gabriel but when He gave Jesus of Nazareth the new Name...I Can't recall Him sending an angel coz that new Name itself is the oil of gladness He attained. That Name made Jesus Adonnai and He shall reveal it to us in due time because it is also the Name of the Father. He now wears the Name of Him that sits on the throne, not the one Gabriel conferred on Him at birth. This one was given admist the conglomeration of terrible beings and they worshipped Him because the New Name is above them.

starlingleanets:
In saying the name Jesus end on the cross that means the name of d Father end on the cross,why not stop interpreting the scripture literary."In other word" as indeed led many astray

starlingleanets:
Isaiah 9:6 says Jesus is Heavenly Father which in turn is eternal Father.The name of Father remains Jesus according to Isaiah 9:6 u quoted

efedua:
that is where u err begins. just as it is that for all who are of Christ are Children of Christ in righteousness and all who are erred are children of lies and are always portrayed as their Father the devil. it became without controversy that we are begotten into eternal life with our Father(Christ Jesus) in Sonhood that we may be one by Him to God from whom we all came from. Eternal Father as used in Isaiah 9:6 is even foretelling of Christ resurrection, now that he is eternal we are alive from death in our inner man through Him who God placed in our heart. for God did said to Israel "I will put my law in the heart of all men and they shall know Me". now if I tell you that he who was the chosen one was not eternal from the beginning of the world, though He be limned as God in different places is nothing compared to a servant portrayed in the form of man made below the Angels, ye may doubt. so tell me is there any Father apart from the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ to whom we are begotten to by his son Jesus Christ who is Heavenly. for Christ thought us to pray saying "our Father who is at In heaven". So tell me plainly how Christ is the Heavenly Father, if He would say to His disciples, "ask my Father in my name" and Paul say, "for this course I bow my face to the Father of my Lord Jesus Christ" and if you feel the Father or God is not in a separate substance with Christ Jesus then the martyr Steven is a lier when he said what he saw when he was looking towards the heaven and so also is the patriarch David in Psalm110:1, and Christ in David Psalm 16:1-11, and God by His word of commandment to Moses, moses saying,"Hear, O Israel, for the LORD our God is one LORD" Deuteronomy 6:3-4, but seeing that non of which I have mentioned is a lier but He that desire to derail truth for sophistry to abode is the lier. I personally asked you to read Isaiah 9:6 because the verses you gave were not subtle enough in limning your claim and after which I gave you verses relevant to my statement.

twosquare:
re-read that statement again and listen to yourself...pay attention to details.

twosquare:
the Father gave Jesus His own Name ...there is a new Name Jesus bears that we all don't know yet...[s]the name Jesus is the end of the cross. He finished and exhaust that Name in His earthly ministry[/s]. [s]The new name is the name of the Father which He(Jesus) promised He will declare unto His brethren. That is why God highly exalted Him and gave Him a Name that is above every other name[/s]. It is the name of Him who has been from the beginning. Yeshua was exalted but we all still call Him Jesus but He won't reveal His new name until we come of age in the spirit. [s]The Jesus of Nazareth is different from the Risen Lord(even though the same person.)[/s] So,saying the name of the Father is Jesus, is not actually accurate because that name is a syllabus for His earthly ministry.

efedua:
 fallacy,,,, let me come to revelation it's of mystery to know that the name of the only begotten son of God was revealed as Jehovah in sundry places before he was found in the fashion of men and being founded in it He learnt obedience and endured to the end, and God exalted Him above all Creature, that by the mention of His name "Jesus of Nazareth" every tongue shall confess that He is Lord all to glory of the God who exalted Him. so what is thou stand to say that the name was exhausted on the cross? if he rise not I don't think His name would have been given to men as the only name by which salvation maybe administered to the sons of men. so therefore He live that His name may continue without an end until salvation is over. God had ordained Him before he was found in the fashion of men by an oath saying by the mouth of the patriarch David "for the LORD has sworn and will not repent thou art a Priest forever after the order of Melchizedek" read about Melchizedek, see Hebrews 7:1-5 a priest call not by lineage of the priest but became a priest by the will of God, but however Jesus Christ was made a better priest who continue forever and a mediator to the end of days. now considered how great Melchizedek could be but yet he was made like unto the son of God. so tell me which name hath thou sustained for Christ Jesus that thou may say He should bear? Even as ye know for the name Jesus wasn't given to him by the will of men neither was it by the will of any angel but of God and God begat Him in that name, and He was risen with it and continue with it and was exalted with it. same which ye have is same that kept the savior in the cross to some people who erred in sophistry, have they no understanding? yea they have but perish foolishness in that they retain Him for the cross and not the crucifixion for the cross. the Bible will make clear to us that the risen Lord who cried in pains on the cross portrayed the nature of God but it will be very difficult to understand. (matt 27:46, mark 15:34, Psalm 22:1-11) And hear he cried Eli or Eloi, which mean my God, and he may say likely say our God is His God and our Father is His Father.I will profess this plain truth that in all dimensions the real name of God is never reveal but rather a title have He often reveal in all times of His manifest, so if you thought their is a switching of name your err may wax stronger.... all you need know is that the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ is the manifest of all things. although every one will be given a new name different from the earthly name but that will be at the end of days

efedua:
 fallacy,,,, let me come to revelation it's of mystery to know that the name of the only begotten son of God was revealed as Jehovah in sundry places before he was found in the fashion of men and being founded in it He learnt obedience and endured to the end, and God exalted Him above all Creature, that by the mention of His name "Jesus of Nazareth" every tongue shall confess that He is Lord all to glory of the God who exalted Him. so what is thou stand to say that the name was exhausted on the cross? if he rise not I don't think His name would have been given to men as the only name by which salvation maybe administered to the sons of men. so therefore He live that His name may continue without an end until salvation is over. God had ordained Him before he was found in the fashion of men by an oath saying by the mouth of the patriarch David "for the LORD has sworn and will not repent thou art a Priest forever after the order of Melchizedek" read about Melchizedek, see Hebrews 7:1-5 a priest call not by lineage of the priest but became a priest by the will of God, but however Jesus Christ was made a better priest who continue forever and a mediator to the end of days. now considered how great Melchizedek could be but yet he was made like unto the son of God. so tell me which name hath thou sustained for Christ Jesus that thou may say He should bear? Even as ye know for the name Jesus wasn't given to him by the will of men neither was it by the will of any angel but of God and God begat Him in that name, and He was risen with it and continue with it and was exalted with it. same which ye have is same that kept the savior in the cross to some people who erred in sophistry, have they no understanding? yea they have but perish foolishness in that they retain Him for the cross and not the crucifixion for the cross. the Bible will make clear to us that the risen Lord who cried in pains on the cross portrayed the nature of God but it will be very difficult to understand. (matt 27:46, mark 15:34, Psalm 22:1-11) And hear he cried Eli or Eloi, which mean my God, and he may say likely say our God is His God and our Father is His Father.I will profess this plain truth that in all dimensions the real name of God is never reveal but rather a title have He often reveal in all times of His manifest, so if you thought their is a switching of name your err may wax stronger.... all you need know is that the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ is the manifest of all things. although every one will be given a new name different from the earthly name but that will be at the end of days[/s]

starlingleanets:
You can't do anything about it is already in account nd u will render it dat day. My advice is don't just say wot u r taught in church nd blv its true,nd be slow to speak dat u may not multiply words dat will stand against u in the Judgement day.Peace

twosquare:
Nothing to give an account of pertaining to what I said coz it is the truth. And I repeat again with all confidence that the name Jesus of Nazareth wasn't above all other Names until after resurrection. He wasn't the Lord of Angels and angels did not worship Him as a son of man until He attained a more excellent Name than they(check Hebrews 1:4). And Jesus wasn't given the oil of gladness(the new name) until He prove Himself to Jehovah that He hated wickedness. He was made a little lower than the angels(meaning His Name is not above their names until a pronouncement was made in verse 5 of chapter 1).

He became the Lord of all and the revelation was given to paul at Phillipians and Hebrews. Every Name that is Named(those are principalities,powers, Might and Dominion). They too are Named and you can't brush them aside if you don't have a Name that is superior to theirs. Are they not all sons of God? Ye, they all are but one outshine them all later at resurrection. Read, meditate,re-read and let the light shine. You can't find such things being taught in churches, sorry they are too busy with this lower realm.(Don't be presumptuous).