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Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by AlBaqir(m): 7:18pm On Nov 11, 2013
Imam Muslim in his 'Sahih' records:

Chapter: The Virtues Of The Household Of The Prophet (SAW)'
A'isha reported that Allah's Apostle went out one norning wearing a striped cloak of the black camel's hair that there came Hasan b. 'Ali. He wrapped hitn under it, then came Husain and he wrapped him under it along with the other one (Hasan). Then came Fatima and he took her under it, then came 'Ali and he also took him under it and then said:
"Allah only desires to take away any uncleanliness from you, O AHL AL-BAYT, and purify you (thorough purifying)"

Reference : Sahih Muslim 2424
In-book reference : Book 44, Hadith 91
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 31, Hadith 5955(deprecated numbering scheme)
www.sunnah.com/muslim/44
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GENESIS OF THE VERSE
Imam al-Tirmidhi (d. 279H):

Umar Ibn Abi Salamah, the dependent of the Prophet, peace be upon him:

When this verse
{Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O AHL AL-BAYT, and to purify you absolutely} was revealed upon the Prophet, peace be upon him, in the house of Umm Salamah, he called Fatima, Hassan and Hussayn and spread a cloak over them while 'Ali was behind him. Then, he covered them with a cloak. Then, he said, "O Allah! THESE ARE MY AHL AL-BAYT. So, keep impurity away from them and purify them absolutely."

Umm Salamah said, "Am I with them, O Prophet of Allah?" He replied, "You are upon your place and you are upon a good thing."


{al-Jami al-Sahih Sunan al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 351, #3205}

'Allamah al-Albani (annotator^) comments: Sahih (authentic)

# This is an indication that the verse {Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O AHL AL-BAYT, and to purify you absolutely} was revealed independently.

# The Ahl al-Bayt of Muhammad (saws) are only "Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussayn"
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1. The only place in the holy Qur'an, in relation to the person of Muhammad (peace be on him and his family), where the word "ahl al-bayt (household)" is used is in surah ahzab vs 33:

"Allah only desires to take away any uncleanliness from you, O people of the household, and purify you (thorough purifying)"

Here most all ahlu sunnah believed that because of the context in which this 'text' was found (revealed or arranged), it address the wives of the holy prophet along with Ali, Fatima Hassan and Hussain.

A. The previous verses from verse 30 addressed wives of the prophet where FEMININE gender were used until the gender changed to MASCULINE (ankum) at the tail end of verse 33.

Ahlu sunnah believed the shift or change of the gender form is just to accommodate a new group (comprises of Ali, Fatima, hassan and Hussain) which altogether with the wives (Feminine gender) refer to "Ahl al-bayt".

NB: You can get a gist of this in the commentary of Abdullah Yusuf Ali's english translation of the Qur'an with commentary under the verse. Unfortunately his commentary where he made mention of Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussain in the old edition has been REMOVED in the so-called new edition.

B. Shia believe on the contrary that the new group with masculine gender is far different from previous group comprises of wives. And only this group has been refer as "ahl al-bayt"(Ali, Fatima, hassan and Hussain).

And this is plainly testified in the opening hadith narrated by 'Aisha, one of the wives of the holy prophet.
Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by AlBaqir(m): 6:29pm On Oct 24, 2014
The Representative Of Mubahala
In the 9th-10th year of Hijrah just before the death of the prophet (saws), Allah revealed to His prophet to challenge the christian of Najran to a Mubahala contest just immediately after days of dialogue concerning the personality of Jesus (as):

"SO IF SOMEONE ARGUES WITH YOU IN THIS AFTER WHAT HAS COME TO YOU OF THE KNOWLEDGE, say, "COME, LET US CALL OUR SONS AND YOUR SONS, OUR WOMEN and YOUR WOMEN, OURSELVES AND YOURSELVES, THEN PRAY AND INVOKE THE CURSE OF ALLAH UPON THE LIARS." ~Sura Al-Imran vs 60-62

ON THE FIELD OF MUBAHALA!
The christian accepted the contest and on that day, gathered most nobles among them. The holy prophet (saws) as instructed by His Lord carried Hussayn in his arm while Hassan held his finger, followed by Bibi Fatima and concluding with Ali (a.s). These blessed five souls marched to the field of Mubahala.

OUR SONS: Hassan and Hussayn
OUR WOMEN: Fatima ONLY
OURSELVES: Muhammad (saws) and Ali

Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that Muawiya b. Abi Sufyin appointed Sa'd as the Governor and
said:

What prevents you from abusing Abu Turab (Hadrat 'Ali), whereupon be said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger (s) having said about him that I would not abuse him and even if I find one of those three things for me, it would be more dear to me than the red camelg. I heard Allah's Messenger (s) say about 'Ali as he left behind hrin in one of his campaigns (that was Tabuk). 'All said to him: Allah's Messenger, you leave me behind along with women and children.

Thereupon Allah's Messenger (s) said to him: Aren't you satisfied with being unto me what Aaron was unto Moses but with this exception that there is no prophethood after me.

And I (also) heard him say on the Day of Khaibar: I would certainly give this standard to a person who loves Allah and his Messenger and Allah and his Messenger love him too. He (the narrator) said: We have been anxiously waiting for it, when he (the Holy Prophet) said: Call 'Ali. He was called and his eyes were inflamed. He applied saliva to his eyes and handed over the standard to him, and Allah gave him victory.

(The third occasion is this) when the(following) verse was revealed:
"Let us summon our sons and your sons..." Allah's Messenger (s) called 'Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husain and said: O Allah, they are my Ahl (family).

Reference : Sahih Muslim 2404 d
In-book reference : Book 44, Hadith 50
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 31, Hadith 5915 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by AlBaqir(m): 6:36pm On Oct 24, 2014
WHY ARE THE WIVES NOT INCLUDED IN THE AHL AL-BAYT?

Naturally ones wife is part of the 'famly' but in the case of Muhammad, especially if the word "ahl al-bayt" is used, his wives are not. Here's Zaid ibn Arqam's argument when asked if the wives of the prophet were included among his ahl al-bayt.

Yazid b. Hayyan reported, I went along with Husain b. Sabra and 'Umar b. Muslim to Zaid b. Arqam and, as we sat by his side, Husain said to him:

Zaid. you have been able to acquire a great virtue that you saw Allah's Messenger (s) listened to his talk, fought by his side in (different) battles, offered prayer behind me. Zaid, you have in fact earned a great virtue. Zaid, narrate to us what you heard from Allah's Messenger (s). He said: I have grown old and have almost spent my age and I have forgotten some of the things which I remembered in connection with Allah's Messenger (s), so accept whatever I narrate to you, and which I do not narrate do not compel me to do that. He then said: One day Allah's Messenger (s) stood up to deliver sermon at a watering place known as Khumm situated between Mecca and Medina. He praised Allah, extolled Him and delivered the sermon and. exhorted (us) and said: Now to our purpose. O people, I am a human being. I am about to receive a messenger (the angel of death) from my Lord and I, in response to Allah's call, (would bid good-bye to you), but I am leaving among you two weighty things: the one being the Book of Allah in which there is right guidance and light, so hold fast to the Book of Allah and adhere to it. He exhorted (us) (to hold fast) to the Book of Allah and then said: The second are the members of my household I remind you (of your duties) to the members of my family.

He (Husain) said to Zaid: Who are the members of his household? Aren't his wives the members of his family? Thereupon he said: His wives are the members of his family (but here) the members of his family are those for whom acceptance of Zakat is forbidden. And he said: Who are they? Thereupon he said: 'Ali and the offspring of 'Ali, 'Aqil and the offspring of 'Aqil and the offspring of Ja'far and the offspring of 'Abbas. Husain said: These are those for whom the acceptance of Zakat is forbidden. Zaid said: Yes.

Reference : Sahih Muslim 2408 a
In-book reference : Book 44, Hadith 55
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 31, Hadith 5920
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A similar narration ends with the following:
...We said: Who are amongst the members of the household? Aren't the wives (of the Holy Prophet)included amongst the members of his house hold? Thereupon he said: No, by Allah, a woman lives with a man (as his wife) for a certain period; he then divorces her and she goes back to her parents and to her people; the members of his household include his ownself and his kith and kin (who are related to him by blood) and for him the acceptance of Zakat is prohibited.

Reference : Sahih Muslim 2408 d
In-book reference : Book 44, Hadith 58
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 31, Hadith 5923
Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by LagosShia: 8:30pm On Oct 24, 2014
Examples from the Holy Qur'an of a Wife "Not Part of Her Husband's Family" and a Son "Not Part of His Father's Family"!

"And Firon's family took him (Moses) up that he might be an enemy and a grief for them; surely Firon and Haman and their hosts were wrongdoers." (Holy Qur'an 28:8 )

"And Firon's wife said: A refreshment of the eye to me and to you; do not slay him; maybe he will be useful to us, or we may take him for a son; and they did not perceive." (Holy Qur'an 28:9)

"And God sets forth, as an example to those who believe the wife of Pharaoh: Behold she said: 'O my Lord! Build for me, in nearness to Thee, a mansion in the Garden, and save me from Pharaoh and his doings, and save me from those that do wrong':" (Holy Qur'an 66:11)

Question: is the "wife of Pharaoh" (in 28:9, 66:11) part of "Fir'awn's family" (in 28:8 ) that Moses (as) would later on become an enemy to and grief for? No! there is example right in the Holy Qur'an of how a wife is not part of her husband's family figuratively!!!

another proof of a son not being part of his father's family from the Qur'anic language and point of view:

"And Noah called to his Lord and said, "My Lord, indeed my son is of my family; and indeed, Your promise is true; and You are the most just of judges! He said, "O Noah, indeed he is not of your family; indeed, he is [one whose] work was other than righteous, so ask Me not for that about which you have no knowledge. Indeed, I advise you, lest you be among the ignorant." (Holy Qur'an 11:45-46)

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Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by AlBaqir(m): 9:06pm On Oct 24, 2014
^Hope you wouldn't mind if I buttress your above explanation @LagosShia.

Allah's Selection
It is interesting to note that the selection of Allah and His messenger is purely based on piety, righteousness and sound of heart. And never through blood-line, lineage or marital bond.

Noah's Family - A case Study
Nabi Noah (as) propagated his Lord message for 950years as revealed in the holy Qur'an. The people of Noah never wavered in their rejection of the Godly message. Just when Nabi Noah realized they will be destroyed, he prayed unto his Lord to save him and his family from the imminent punishment. Quran says:
"And Noah, when he cried (to Us) aforetime: 'We listened to his (prayer). And delivered him and his family from great distress" ~sura al-Anbiya : 76

Alas! One of Noah's son and wives rejected the truth and were destroyed.

41. So he said: 'Embark ye on the Ark in the name of God, whether it move or be at rest...

42. So the Ark floated with them on the waves (towering) like mountains, and Noah called out to his son, who had separated
himself (from the rest): "O my son! embark with us, and be not with the unbelievers!"

43. The son replied: "I will betake myself to some mountain: it will save me from the water."
Noah said: "This day nothing can save, from the command of Allah, any but those on whom He hath mercy!" And the waves came between them, and the son was among those overwhelmed in the Flood.

~sura Hud.

Is one's son not part of his 'family'?

Sura Hud continues:
45. And Noah called upon His Lord, and said: "O my Lord! Surely My son is of my family! And Thy promise is true...

46. He said: "O Noah! He is not of thy family for his conduct is unrighteous. So ask not of Me that of which thou hast no knowledge...


Wives of Noah and Lut
"God sets forth, to the unbelievers the wife of Noah and the wife of Lut; They were under two of our righteous servants but they betrayed their (husbands), and they profited nothing before God on their account, but were told: 'Enter ye the fire along (others) that enters'. ~surah Tahrim.

[b]How Fair The Wives Of The Holy Prophet?

In sura Ahzab:32, Allah called upon the wives of the holy prophet:
"O wives of the prophet! You are not like any of the (other) women provided you have taqwa (fear of God)..."

Allah's selection to the highest spiritual status is purely on Taqwa (fear of God), righteousness etc.

Going back to sura Tahrim, Allah revealed the nature and conduct of two among the wives of the prophet:

3. "When the prophet disclosed a matter in confidence to one of his consort, and she then divulged it (to another), and God made it known to him, he confirmed part thereof and repudiated a part. Then when he told her thereof, she said, "who told thee this?" He said, "He told me who knows and is well-acquainted (with all things)"

4. If you two turn in repentance to God (it will be better for you), your hearts are indeed so deviated (to oppose the Prophet), but if you help one another against him, then verily, Allah is his Protector, and Jibril, and the righteous among the believers, and furthermore, the angels are his helpers.

5. It may be if he divorced you (two) that his Lord will give him instead of you, wives better than you, Muslims (who submit to Allah), believers, obedient to Allah, turning to Allah in repentance, worshipping Allah sincerely, fasting or emigrants (for Allah's sake), previously married and virgins.


Where's Taqwa (fear of God) in the behaviour of the two wives mentioned above? If they were to be lived at the time of prophet Noah and Lut, they would have been destroyed instantly for the punishment of their sins: turning and planing against the prophet of God. Indeed their hearts are deviated!

So how is it possible for these wives to be part of the "Ahl al-bayt (household)" whom God has cleansed from all sort of blemishes and purified with a thorough purification?

"...Indeed Allah wishes only to remove ArRijs (evil deeds and sins, etc.) from you, O members of the family (of the Prophet), and to purify you with a thorough purification." ~sura Ahzab:33

Interestingly, this sub-verse was embedded in the verse 33 which initially from verse 28 was addressing, instructing and warning the wives of the prophet. The fact that there are many authentic hadith (as seen from the opening hadith of this thread) which proved that part alone ("Indeed Allah wishes only to remove..."wink was revealed separately, and the fact that the pronoun used is masculine different from initial (from verse 28 - begining of 33) and later (verse 34) pronoun of feminine which addressed the 'consort of the prophet'; proved this part does not include the wives of the prophet.
Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by LagosShia: 9:22pm On Oct 24, 2014
Jazak'Allahu Khaira akhi Al-Baqir!

'azam'Allahu ujurakum bi musab Abi Abdillahi'l Hussein (as).

The below verses are related to your above discussion:

"Indeed, Allah chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of 'Imran over the worlds -Offspring one of the other; and Allah is Hearing, Knowing." (Holy Qur'an 5:33-34)

"Allah intends only to remove from you the impurity [of sin], O people of the [Prophet Muhammad's] household, and to purify you with [extensive] purification." (Holy Qur'an 33:33)
Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by Question01(m): 11:12pm On Oct 24, 2014
PEACE.

Is there an explanation for the exclusion of Ummul Khulthum and Ruqqaya, two daughters of the Prophet from Ahlul Bayt?
Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by AlBaqir(m): 7:10am On Oct 25, 2014
Question01:
PEACE.

Is there an explanation for the exclusion of Ummul Khulthum and Ruqqaya, two daughters of the Prophet from Ahlul Bayt?

Peace

There are debates over how many children came from the union of the holy prophet (peace be on him and his progeny) and lady Khadija (may Allah be please with her) considering the fact that she had married twice before she got married with Muhammad (peace be on him and his progeny).

Whichever way it is, Fatima (as) was the ONLY surviving daughter of the holy prophet (peace be on him and his progeny) when 'verse of purification of ahl al-bayt' and 'verse of Mubahila' were revealed.
Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by LagosShia: 6:50pm On Oct 25, 2014
AlBaqir:

Peace
There are debates over how many children came from the union of the holy prophet (peace be on him and his progeny) and lady Khadija (may Allah be please with her) considering the fact that she had married twice before she got married with Muhammad (peace be on him and his progeny).
Whichever way it is, Fatima (as) was the ONLY surviving daughter of the holy prophet (peace be on him and his progeny) when 'verse of purification of ahl al-bayt' and 'verse of Mubahila' were revealed.

brother, if you permit me to shed more light on that. notwithstanding how many biological children the Prophet (sa) had, or whether or not the "daughters" apart from Sayyida Fatima (as) were his biological daughters, we have been stressing that the word "Ahlul-Bayt" as per the Holy Qur'an is an Islamic technical term. it doesn't take into consideration blood relation, but a status bestowed by Allah (swt). theoretically, or literally, anyone related to the Prophet (sa) by blood can be "considered" part of his "Ahlul-Bayt". we do not discount that. but here we are stressing the Qur'anic meaning of "Ahlul-Bayt" (as). we are talking about what the divine definition is. that meaning as per the Qur'an is restricted to 5 people during the life of the Prophet (sa), and the 9 holy Imams from the progeny of Imam Hussain (as) after the Prophet (sa). for that reason, we saw the declaration to Prophet Noah (as) about his biological son:

"And Noah called to his Lord and said, "My Lord, indeed my son is of my family; and indeed, Your promise is true; and You are the most just of judges! He said, "O Noah, indeed he is not of your family; indeed, he is [one whose] work was other than righteous, so ask Me not for that about which you have no knowledge. Indeed, I advise you, lest you be among the ignorant." (Holy Qur'an 11:45-46)

those related to the Prophet (sa) through blood, and not regarded in the Qur'anic meaning of the term "Ahlul-Bayt", do not necessarily have to be unrighteous, unbelievers, wicked, evil or evildoers. they may be good and righteous people. but the Qur'anic term of "Ahlul-Bayt" is a restrictive term to 5 people in the lifetime of the Prophet (sa). anywhere in the Qur'an the word "Ahlul-Bayt" (of Prophet Muhammad) is mentioned, that word is being used by Allah (swt) referring to 5 people only- the Prophet (sa), Imam Ali (as), Sayyida Fatima (as), Imam Hassan (as), and Imam Hussein (as). otherwise, we may as well say Abu Lahab is related to the Prophet (sa) for instance. after the lifetime of the Prophet (sa), the term encompasses the carriers of the divine imamate after Imam Hussein (as), who are the 9 Imams (as) from the progeny of Imam Hussein (as) to complete the line of a total of 12 Imams (as) or successors as promised by Prophet Muhammad (sa); Imam Ali, Imam Hassan and Imam Hussein (as) being the first 3 Imams (as).

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Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by AlBaqir(m): 10:02pm On Jan 12, 2015
Imam al-Tirmidhi (d. 279H):

Umar Ibn Abi Salamah, the dependent of the Prophet, peace be upon him:

When this verse
{Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O AHL AL-BAYT, and to purify you absolutely} was revealed upon the Prophet, peace be upon him, in the house of Umm Salamah, he called Fatima, Hassan and Hussayn and spread a cloak over them while 'Ali was behind him. Then, he covered them with a cloak. Then, he said, "O Allah! THESE ARE MY AHL AL-BAYT. So, keep impurity away from them and purify them absolutely."

Umm Salamah said, "Am I with them, O Prophet of Allah?" He replied, "You are upon your place and you are upon a good thing."


{al-Jami al-Sahih Sunan al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 351, #3205}

'Allamah al-Albani (annotator^) comments: Sahih (authentic)

# This is an indication that the verse {Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O AHL AL-BAYT, and to purify you absolutely} was revealed independently.

# The Ahl al-Bayt of Muhammad (saws) are only "Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussayn"

So, what's the fuss and desperation of some scholars that Prophet's wives were part of his ahl al-bayt mentioned in the above verse to have been purified??
Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by northernigbo101: 2:36am On Jan 13, 2015
AlBaqir:
Imam Muslim in his 'Sahih' records:

Chapter: The Virtues Of The Household Of The Prophet (SAW)'
A'isha reported that Allah's Apostle went out one norning wearing a striped cloak of the black camel's hair that there came Hasan b. 'Ali. He wrapped hitn under it, then came Husain and he wrapped him under it along with the other one (Hasan). Then came Fatima and he took her under it, then came 'Ali and he also took him under it and then said:
"Allah only desires to take away any uncleanliness from you, O AHL AL-BAYT, and purify you (thorough purifying)"

Reference : Sahih Muslim 2424
In-book reference : Book 44, Hadith 91
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 31, Hadith 5955(deprecated numbering scheme)
www.sunnah.com/muslim/44
**********************************************

GENESIS OF THE VERSE
Imam al-Tirmidhi (d. 279H):

Umar Ibn Abi Salamah, the dependent of the Prophet, peace be upon him:

When this verse
{Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O AHL AL-BAYT, and to purify you absolutely} was revealed upon the Prophet, peace be upon him, in the house of Umm Salamah, he called Fatima, Hassan and Hussayn and spread a cloak over them while 'Ali was behind him. Then, he covered them with a cloak. Then, he said, "O Allah! THESE ARE MY AHL AL-BAYT. So, keep impurity away from them and purify them absolutely."

Umm Salamah said, "Am I with them, O Prophet of Allah?" He replied, "You are upon your place and you are upon a good thing."


{al-Jami al-Sahih Sunan al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 351, #3205}

'Allamah al-Albani (annotator^) comments: Sahih (authentic)

# This is an indication that the verse {Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O AHL AL-BAYT, and to purify you absolutely} was revealed independently.

# The Ahl al-Bayt of Muhammad (saws) are only "Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussayn"
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1. The only place in the holy Qur'an, in relation to the person of Muhammad (peace be on him and his family), where the word "ahl al-bayt (household)" is used is in surah ahzab vs 33:

"Allah only desires to take away any uncleanliness from you, O people of the household, and purify you (thorough purifying)"

Here most all ahlu sunnah believed that because of the context in which this 'text' was found (revealed or arranged), it address the wives of the holy prophet along with Ali, Fatima Hassan and Hussain.

A. The previous verses from verse 30 addressed wives of the prophet where FEMININE gender were used until the gender changed to MASCULINE (ankum) at the tail end of verse 33.

Ahlu sunnah believed the shift or change of the gender form is just to accommodate a new group (comprises of Ali, Fatima, hassan and Hussain) which altogether with the wives (Feminine gender) refer to "Ahl al-bayt".

NB: You can get a gist of this in the commentary of Abdullah Yusuf Ali's english translation of the Qur'an with commentary under the verse. Unfortunately his commentary where he made mention of Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussain in the old edition has been REMOVED in the so-called new edition.

B. Shia believe on the contrary that the new group with masculine gender is far different from previous group comprises of wives. And only this group has been refer as "ahl al-bayt"(Ali, Fatima, hassan and Hussain).

And this is plainly testified in the opening hadith narrated by 'Aisha, one of the wives of the holy prophet.
shieyun so now sahih muslim is a refrence point to ur dalala... enjoy ur hizbiya while it last or rather may Allah guide u to path of d salaf us saleh.
Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by AlBaqir(m): 8:00am On Jan 13, 2015
northernigbo101:
shieyun
What's that please? A new word in the dictionary?

northernigbo101:

so now sahih muslim is a refrence point to ur dalala...

Is the reference not Sahih as to who really are the purified ahl al-bayt contrary to your misconceptions?
@cancel, salafi-boyz! Una get foul mouth. I salute you.

northernigbo101:

enjoy ur hizbiya while it last or rather may Allah guide u to path of d salaf us saleh.

Hizbiya indeed. So, the ahl al-Bayti Rasul are not recognized in your manhaj as Salaf-us-salih?
That's quite interesting!
Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by northernigbo101: 10:14am On Jan 13, 2015
AlBaqir:

What's that please? A new word in the dictionary?



Is the reference not Sahih as to who really are the purified ahl al-bayt contrary to your misconceptions?
@cancel, salafi-boyz! Una get foul mouth. I salute you.



Hizbiya indeed. So, the ahl al-Bayti Rasul are not recognized in your manhaj as Salaf-us-salih?
That's quite interesting!
ofcourse we luv & recognise ahlulu bayt is jus d way u here pushin it down our throats bcoz sahih muslim narrated it(all of sudden sahihain has turnd a refernc point for d shiieyun.) jus lyk d comparativ religiuos pple usin d bible to prove islams autheticity. werz d foul mouth abeg.
Re: Who Are The Ahl Al-bayt (Household) of The Holy Prophet (saws)? by AlBaqir(m): 12:08pm On Jan 13, 2015
northernigbo101:
[size=28pt]ofcourse we luv & recognise ahlulu bayt[/size] is jus d way u here pushin it down our throats

@Bold, did I ask you about loving them? I simply ask you to bury the myth of accommodating the wives of the Prophet in his purified Ahl al-Bayt.

Lastly, what do you recognize them for? Why won't we push it down your throat when you continue deceiving yourselves about the alleged love and recognition you have for the purified Ahl al-Bayt.

Do you believe in their leadership over the Ummah after the demise of the holy prophet (peace be upon him and his household)?

"I have left behind over you that which if you hold fast to it you will never go astray; the Book of Allah, one end of which is in the Hand of Allah and the other in your hands, and my Ahl al-Bayt"
~Sahih Muslim, Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah, Abu Dawud, Musnad Ahmad, al-Mustadrak 'ala al-Sahihayn etc

#HADITH KHALIFATAYN
Allamah Nasir Deen al-Albani in his "Sahih al-Jami' al-Saghir wa Ziyadatuhu (Al-Maktab al-Islami), vol. 1 p. 482, hadith no. 2457 records the holy prophet (peace be on him and his family) to have said yet in another version of 'Hadith thaqalayn' called 'hadith
Khalifatayn' (Two Caliphs):

"I am leaving behind over you TWO KHALIFAHS; the Book of Allah - a rope stretching between the heaven and the earth - and my offspring, my Ahl al-Bayt. Verily, both shall never separate from each other until they meet me at the Lake-Fount"

Then, Sheik (al-Albani) comments: * Sahih.
************

Is this not what you have substituted in place of them:
# HADITH - "BOOK OF ALLAH and my SUNNAH?
{"I left book of Allah and my Sunnah"}.

We thank God, among your very own have replied your creed:

# A salafi scholar, Shaykh Muqbil (d. 1422H), writes by correcting both Imam al-Hakim (d. 403AH) and Sheik Ibn Baz (d. 1999) who graded the hadith as Sahih (authentic) documented in their various books, in his "Tahqiq of al- Mustadrak (of al-Hakim):

"It is a da'if hadith, because it is narrated through the route of Ismail ibn Abi Uways
from his father, and there is criticism against both of them. Its shahid is narrated through the route of Salih ibn Musa al-Talihi, and he is matruk(rejected)"


# Another well known Sunni hadith scientist, Sayyid Hassan al-Saqqaf express his concern angrily:
"As for the hadith {I have left over you ...the Book of God and my Sunnah} which people repeat among themselves, and which the lecturers quote on the pulpits, IT IS A FABRICATED, FALSE HADITH. It was fabricated by the Umayyads and their followers to turn people away from this sahih hadith about the offspring of the Prophet. So be very careful due to that! I have mentioned all its chains and exposed the liars and fabricators in its chains at the end of my book Sahih Sifat Salat al-Nabi, p.289."

northernigbo101:
bcoz sahih muslim narrated it(all of sudden sahihain has turnd a refernc point for d shiieyun.) jus lyk d comparativ religiuos pple usin d bible to prove islams autheticity.

Really that's the icing on the cake for "shiieyun". grin
Your parable is set by Allah in the holy Qur'an when the ahl al-Kitab continue rejecting the truth while it is evident in their books; then, Allah question them "Afala taqilun?!"

And I want to believe you've used Bible, even once, against Christian before while you never believe in other blasphemous verses in it. So don't be hypocrite.

We don't have problem with the Sahih Sittah. What you turned them to making them "infallible books" is what we have problem with. No book is "Sahih" except Qur'an. Thereby, whatever any so-called Sahih books recorded should be seen and analyze
In the light of Qur'an.

Lastly, where did Qur'an and Sunnah taught you to defame names of others? Please it is not "Shiieyun"!

Salam.

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