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Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Nobody: 1:46pm On Feb 22, 2015
An2elect2:
You mean their conversion from one false religion to false teachers in Christendom who "privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction."?

And this the sorry consequence of putting this men on the pedestal:

"And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the truth shall be evil spoken of.

And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgement now for a long time slumbereth not."
2Peter 2:1-3.

What makes you believe Islam is false while Christianity is real
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Nobody: 1:47pm On Feb 22, 2015
salykely:


Despite the fact that Johnson suleman's father Imoudu Sule was a Muslim Johnson was never a Muslim. I know them in and out.

the topic says ''pastors that were born as Muslims''.
If his dad was a Muslim, it follows that he was born a Muslim, expect his dad had him before converting into a Muslim.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by RAYMONPUNKY: 1:57pm On Feb 22, 2015
converting because of money day will embezzle
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Ilekeh(f): 1:58pm On Feb 22, 2015
Islam does not make money, but christianity does.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Ilekeh(f): 2:01pm On Feb 22, 2015
xreal:
Their parents must have showed them hell for converting.

If you're talking about Yorubas, I doubt it.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by myproperty(m): 2:01pm On Feb 22, 2015
Ayatullah:
BORN MUSLIMS WITHOUT ISLAMIC KNOWLEDGE!
Those pastors were indeed born Muslims, but they were not guided by their parents to the path of Islam, just like Pastor Tunde Bakare whose mother took to a 'Babalawo' (fetish native doctor) while in the university.

It is therefore not enough to be born into a Muslim, home you need to be guided and as you grow up also search just as this American woman did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9rB6LWt7eo

If they were not guided by their parents to the path of Islam, what about the grandson of the late Emir of Kano Paul Ado Bayero and the grandson of former Sultan of Sokoto Evangelist Mustapha Dasuki .

You can read the testimony of the grandson of the late Emir of Kano here: https://mypenmypaper./2012/02/08/testimony-how-the-grandson-of-emir-of-kano-paul-ado-bayero-converted-to-christianity/
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Takara: 2:07pm On Feb 22, 2015
myproperty:


They were forced to become Muslims through Islamic war conquest but not through conviction. The Imperialism you mentioned is a policy of extending a country's power and influence through colonization especially through the use of military force.

The spread of Christianity was majorly by conviction and that was why our colonial masters ( though Christians)did not force the religion on the Muslims.
What do you think would have happened if we were colonized by a Muslim country?

How do you force an individual to pray five times a day or fast for the month of Ramadan? Now imagine forcing a whole country to pry five times a day and fast a whole. You may need to attach a soldier to every single citizen 24/7 to ensure compliance!
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Fash20: 2:12pm On Feb 22, 2015
ALISMILE:
D simple tin is make ur research!
do u know Egypt has been in existence before christianity.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by psalmsjob: 2:13pm On Feb 22, 2015
PastorKun:
At the rate at which muslims are converting to christianity, there would be no more muslims left in Nigeria in the next 50 years. cool
The reality is that there are more idol worshipers in Nigeria today than both Christians and Muslims combined.

Most Christians are more materialistic than pegans and most Muslims too swear in the name of Allah in vain amongst other conducts that cannot be said to be the proper definition of both religions' moral standard.

The line of thought towards nation building in a country such as Nigeria shouldn't be about one religion being more populous than the others but rather on citizens loving one another and obeying the constituted authorities.

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Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Adek15(m): 2:14pm On Feb 22, 2015
Shalek:
So many fools here think only killing is terror. So many of you here calling yourselves Christians aint like Jesus. Y'all are terrorists.

JESUS will so deny you on the final day; you aint nothing like him.

Just like Mohammed will so deny the f**king bloodsucking bastards calling themselves BokoHaram.



Let only the wise ones talk.
1 of the very very very sensible quote I have seen on this thread

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Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by myproperty(m): 2:18pm On Feb 22, 2015
tartar9:
freedom of religion was allowed.they were NEVER forced.go check history rather than assuming.

I am not assuming, history is available, facts are abound, facts cannot be distorted.
Islam is the only religion that is associated with force conversion or conversion against ones will, that does not mean that people did not convert to Islam without the use of force. What I said is that Islamic war conquest is the single major factor that lead to the spread of Islam.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by afrikanns: 2:19pm On Feb 22, 2015
you are highly on point,they studyd and researched about those gullibers and highly exploiting them. mumu wirshippers
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by afrikanns: 2:21pm On Feb 22, 2015
[quote author=Macelliot post=30966437]
Did they became Islamic Whole-heartedly or by Force/jihad?[/q erratic grammer
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by uncjay(m): 2:23pm On Feb 22, 2015
holatin:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Lew Alcindor) – retired
basketball player & the NBA's all-time leading scorer.
[1] He converted from Christianity to The Nation of
Islam and then to mainstream Sunni Islam .
Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (Chris Jackson) – retired
basketball player [2]
Tariq Abdul-Wahad (Olivier Saint-Jean) – originally
from France, former basketball player for the Mavericks
and Kings [3]
Thomas J. Abercrombie – photographer [4]
Éric Abidal (changed his name to Bilal) – French
football player, converted to Islam after marriage. [5]
Ivan Aguéli (Johan Agelii) – Swedish painter. [6][7]
Akhenaton – French rapper and producer of French
hip hop .[8]
Muhammed al-Ahari born 6 January 1965 as Ray
Allen Rudder is an American essayist, scholar and
writer on the topics of American Islam, Black
Nationalist groups, heterodox Islamic groups and
modern occultism.
Abdul-Karim al-Jabbar (Sharmon Shah) – former
NFL player[9]
Sana al-Sayegh , dean of the Science and
Technology Faculty at Palestine International
University, converted to Islam in August 2007. Fatah
has accused its political rival Hamas of forcing the
professor to convert from Christianity, a charge Hamas
denies. [10]
Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr.; 17
January 1942), from Baptist [11][12] to The Nation of
Islam to Sunni Islam .[13] Famous American
professional boxer (3 time world heavyweight
champion), philanthropist and social activist.
Rowland Allanson-Winn, 5th Baron Headley –
British soldier and peer .[14]
Ryan G. Anderson – former Lutheran, convicted of
charges of espionage for Al Qaeda [15][16]
Farqad as-Sabakhi – an Armenian Islamic preacher
who was formerly a Christian [17] known for his
knowledge of Judeo-Christian scriptures. [18]
B
Kristiane Backer – a German television presenter,
television journalist and author residing in London.
[19]
Yasin Abu Bakr (Lennox Philip) – of Trinidad and
Tobago
Muhammad Abd-al-Rahman Barker (Philip Barker) –
professor of Urdu, former chair of the University of
Minnesota 's Department of South Asian studies and
creator of the Tékumel fantasy world. [20]
Abdullah Beg of Kartli – Georgian convert to Islam
[21] who was a claimant to the kingship of Kartli .
David Belfield – American, fled to Iran after
assassinating Ali Akbar Tabatabai , an Iranian
dissident . [22]
French nobleman Claude
Alexandre de Bonneval as
Humbaracı Ahmet Paşa
Józef Bem – Polish and Hungarian
general [citation needed ]
Mohammed Knut Bernström – Swedish ambassador
to Venezuela (1963–1969), Spain (1973–1976) and
Morocco (1976–1983) [23]
Ibrahim Bey – an Egyptian Mamluk of Georgian
Christian origins.
Art Blakey – American Jazz musician [24]
Wojciech Bobowski – raised Protestant , he was a
Polish musician and translator of the Bible into
Ottoman Turkish .[25]
Omar Bongo – Gabonese, President of Gabon .[26]
Claude Alexandre de Bonneval or Humbaracı Ahmet
Paşa was an 18th-century French nobleman. [27]
Tawana Brawley (Maryam Muhammad) – African
American woman noted for claiming to have been
raped by several white men, a claim determined to be
a fabrication by a grand jury. Later in life she
converted to Islam. [28][29][30]
Willie Brigitte – French convert to Islam who
associated with al-Qaeda in Pakistan and was
possibly involved in a plot to conduct a terrorist
operation in Australia.[31]
Dolores "LaLa" Brooks – American
musician. [citation needed]
C
Torquato Cardilli – Italian ambassador, converted
from Catholicism.[32]
André Carson – former Baptist , [33] second Muslim
to serve the United States Congress.[34]
Count Cassius- Visigothic aristocrat who founded
the Banu Qasi dynasty of Muladi rulers. [35]
Cat Stevens, now known as Yusuf Islam (born
Steven Demetre Georgiou; 21 July 1948), British
singer-songwriter, multi-instrumentalist,
humanitarian, education philanthropist, and prominent
convert to Islam. [36]
Dave Chappelle – comedian and television star [37]
Benjamin Chavis – controversial former head of the
NAACP ; joined the Nation of Islam. [citation needed ]
Chrisye – Indonesian singer. He changed his birth
name to Chrismansyah Rahadi from Christian
Rahadi [citation needed ]
Hedley Churchward – English painter [38]
Aukai Collins – fought in Chechnya , paid FBI
informant , author of an autobiographical book[39]
Jerôme Courtailler – one of two French brothers
convicted by French authorities in 2004 for abetting
terrorists [40][41][42]
Robert D. Crane is the former adviser to President
Richard Nixon, and is former Deputy Director (for
Planning) of the U.S. National Security Council. [43]
D
Arnoud van Doorn - Dutch Politician and anti-Islam
movie maker
Ian Dallas – Abdalqadir as-Sufi — Sufi shaykh of
Scottish origins. [44]
Daniel Streich - Swiss military instructor, community
council member and a former member of Swiss
People's Party. [citation needed]
E
Isabelle Eberhardt – from Lutheran Christianity,
19th-century explorer and writer[45]
Abdullah el-Faisal – a Muslim cleric who preached
in the United Kingdom until he was convicted of
stirring up racial hatred and urging his followers to
murder Jews, Hindus, Christians, and Americans. [46]
[47]
Wadih el-Hage , former Al-Qaeda member who was
convicted for his part in the 1998 United States
embassy bombings.[48]
Nathan Ellington – English football player[49]
C. Jack Ellis – Mayor of Macon, Georgia [50]
Keith Ellison – American, Representative from
Minnesota's 5th congressional district , first Muslim to
be elected to the United States Congress, converted
from Catholicism[51]
Yahiya Emerick – American Muslim scholar,
President of the Islamic Foundation of North America,
converted from Protestantism. [52]
Erekle I of Kakheti – Georgian convert to Islam [53]
who ruled the kingdoms of Kakheti and Kartli .
Yusuf Estes – Former preacher and federal prison
chaplain, converted from Protestantism. [54]
Chris Eubank – British boxer[55]
Emeka Ezeugo – is a former Nigerian football
defender and midfielder played in 1994 World Cup.[56]
F
Shah Shahidullah Faridi – Writer of German descent
born to a Christian family. [57]
Danilo Fernando – Brazilian Footballer. He changed
his name become Muhammad Danilo
Fernando [ citation needed]
Firouz – an Armenian Christian convert to Islam [58]
who served as a spy for Bohemund during the Siege of
Antioch. [59]
Myriam Francois-Cerrah - Journalist who converted
from Roman Catholicism in 2003[60]
Radu cel Frumos – was the younger brother of Vlad
Ţepeş (Dracula) and prince of the principality of
Wallachia, who converted from Catholicism.[61]
G
Adam Gadahn (born Adam Pearlman) – al-Qaeda
English language spokesman. Home-schooled
Christian. [62]
Roger Garaudy -was a French philosopher, French
resistance fighter and a prominent communist author
and converted to Islam in 1982.[citation needed]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Islam_from_Christianity
Here they comes....lolz...xo wats ur point with ur list
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by myproperty(m): 2:27pm On Feb 22, 2015
Takara:


How do you force an individual to pray five times a day or fast for the month of Ramadan? Now imagine forcing a whole country to pry five times a day and fast a whole. You may need to attach a soldier to every single citizen 24/7 to ensure compliance!

Muslim conquest of North Africa


The Muslim conquest of North Africa west of Egypt began 647 CE, and was completed for the urban zones and all along the coast by 710. It happened through attack wars, and the Muslims established administrative units. The first stages were during the reign of 3rd Caliph Uthman, whereas firm control was secured during the Umayyad calipate.
The motivation for the conquest seem to have been quite normal. With the exception of Tunisia, the territories of North Africa were politically and military weak, while the Muslim army had great military training allowing easy advances, even if Berbers gave the Muslim Arab army strong resistance. Berber strongholds here were smaller and more in number and belonged to villages and local administrations and its elite could more easily relocate to another place when threatened. When the Muslims started to advance into the heartlands of North Africa, corresponding to modern Tunisia, they could play different small kings up against each other, thereby forming effective alliances. They allied with what appears to have been Kasila, the king of Djedar.
Contrary to what happened in Egypt and the Middle East, Islam here quickly replaced Christianity.
The first goal of the Muslims was to obtain tribute in slaves and recruits for the army from Cyrenaica.
The conquest of central Libya happened in the 640's, Tunisia between 670 and 698, Algeria the 680's and Morocco by 710.
http://i-cias.com/e.o/muslim_conquest_north_africa.htm

Please note there is no Islamic state that was not conquered by Islamic war. It spread majorly through conquest.

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Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Nobody: 2:29pm On Feb 22, 2015
Binb:
@op you want to count individual converts from Islam to Christianity? Ok lets count former Christian countries: Turkey, Egypt , Syria, Palestine.....
sorry, they r never Christian countries, jst that some Christians moved onto those countries n later moved out.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by oxyG: 2:30pm On Feb 22, 2015
stnwani:
BISHOP DAVID OYEDEPO (Founder of Living Faith Christian Church International(Winners’ Chapel)
The founder of winners chapel Bishop David Oyedepo was born to a Muslim father and Christian mother.


PASTOR TUNDE BAKARE (Founder of The LatterRain Assembly)
Pastor (Dr.) ‘Tunde Bakare was born to Muslim parents. He is the Founder of The LatterRain Assembly headquartered in Lagos.


PASTOR MATTHEW ASHIMOLOWO ( Founder/Senior Pastor of Kingsway International Christian Centre(KICC)
He was born as Ahmed Ashimolowo in Kaduna to Muslim parents. He is the Founder/Senior Pastor of Kingsway International Christian Centre(KICC)


REV. PAUL JINADU (founder of the New Covenant Church)
Born in Lagos, the founder of the New Covenant Church, Rev. Paul Jinadu was a devout Muslim from childhood.
It's a pity,they all sold their hereafter for this transient world.May Allah guide them and the rest misguided ones back to Islam, the only way to paradise.Ameen

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Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by falopey: 2:32pm On Feb 22, 2015
Takara:


if they were converted by force how do you explain the fact that about 10 percent of egyptians are still christians, there are still christians in Syria, lebanon etc, they forgot to Force those ones?

You are talking as if the forceful conversion was last year or yesterday. This was centuries ago. After those years, Christian s that relinquished their territories to these jihadists and escaped to exil started coming back. The remnant christians in those places that were able to survive the jihad started building their lives over again. That's y you still have their descendants in those countries. Besides, more christians have been made in recent years in those places through thewowork of missionaries in the early 20th century

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Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by uncjay(m): 2:33pm On Feb 22, 2015
Ilekeh:
Islam does not make money, but christianity does.
You are still dreaming, majority of our politicians in the N, SW and NC are all muslim fucking rich people, major oil well holders in this country belong to men of islamic faith...xo ur point sir is baseless.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Areolad: 2:36pm On Feb 22, 2015
neoapocalypse:


What makes you believe Islam is false while Christianity is real
neoapocalypse:


What makes you believe Islam is false while Christianity is real
neoapocalypse:


What makes you believe Islam is false while Christianity is real
Because her pastor told her so
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Nobody: 2:37pm On Feb 22, 2015
Are they Catholics...could it be that they went to xtianity to make money and earn a living...The running of church this days is a money making venture..
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by falopey: 2:43pm On Feb 22, 2015
tartar9:
freedom of religion was allowed.they were NEVER forced.go check history rather than assuming.

It's you that will have to go check history properly. Mention to me a country in the world where introduction of islam was not by jihad war. Even in our own Nigeria here uthman fodio introduced islam for the first time in nigeria through jihad war. No country in the world witnessed peaceful introduction of islam. Many people for the fear of death convert to uslam. Those that could not convert ran to exile. So check history very well.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by yusufbida(m): 2:44pm On Feb 22, 2015
PastorKun:
At the rate at which muslims are converting to christianity, there would be no more muslims left in Nigeria in the next 50 years. cool
THOSE DAT WERE BORN MUSLIM AND CONVERTED TO XTIAN DID SO BCUS OF MONEY MAKING IN CHURCHES NEVERTHELESS THEY VE ACHIEVED THEM AIM BUT I FEAR FOR THER ENTERNITY.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by TV01(m): 2:46pm On Feb 22, 2015
...it's not about how one starts, but about how one finishes! May God bless all those who Love The Lord Jesus Christ in truth.


TV
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by KENTHAZ(m): 2:53pm On Feb 22, 2015
From Grace to grass.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by stildude(m): 2:56pm On Feb 22, 2015
PastorKun:
At the rate at which muslims are converting to christianity, there would be no more muslims left in Nigeria in the next 50 years. cool
The muslims all over the world are aware of this. That is why their religion is do or die. If you still don't understand, look at the "evangelism" method muslim brotherhood, ISIS, Boko haram, etc., are engaged in. Here in Nigerian, look how Christian converts who dump islam are persecuted. some of them are killed to serve as deterrent to others. But when you see the light, you cannot continue in darkness. Christ is the light of the world. Halellujah!

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Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Nobody: 3:06pm On Feb 22, 2015
myproperty:


Muslim conquest of North Africa


The Muslim conquest of North Africa west of Egypt began 647 CE, and was completed for the urban zones and all along the coast by 710. It happened through attack wars, and the Muslims established administrative units. The first stages were during the reign of 3rd Caliph Uthman, whereas firm control was secured during the Umayyad calipate.
The motivation for the conquest seem to have been quite normal. With the exception of Tunisia, the territories of North Africa were politically and military weak, while the Muslim army had great military training allowing easy advances, even if Berbers gave the Muslim Arab army strong resistance. Berber strongholds here were smaller and more in number and belonged to villages and local administrations and its elite could more easily relocate to another place when threatened. When the Muslims started to advance into the heartlands of North Africa, corresponding to modern Tunisia, they could play different small kings up against each other, thereby forming effective alliances. They allied with what appears to have been Kasila, the king of Djedar.
Contrary to what happened in Egypt and the Middle East, Islam here quickly replaced Christianity.
The first goal of the Muslims was to obtain tribute in slaves and recruits for the army from Cyrenaica.
The conquest of central Libya happened in the 640's, Tunisia between 670 and 698, Algeria the 680's and Morocco by 710.
http://i-cias.com/e.o/muslim_conquest_north_africa.htm

Please note there is no Islamic state that was not conquered by Islamic war. It spread majorly through conquest.

The fact that a country was conquered by muslims does not mean that the people were forced at gunpoint to become muslims, otherwise you wont find a single coptic christian iin egypt today.

using your analogy do you realise that christianity came to Nigeria after the british conquered the country. does that indicate that your grand parents were forced to become christians!
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by mustymatic(m): 3:07pm On Feb 22, 2015
MightySparrow:







None of these became a preacher except A sari Dokubo. None is a nigerian of any positive influence. Jesus is Lord.
Abi, preachers my ass
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Ilekeh(f): 3:07pm On Feb 22, 2015
uncjay:
You are still dreaming, majority of our politicians in the N, SW and NC are all muslim fucking rich people, major oil well holders in this country belong to men of islamic faith...xo ur point sir is baseless.

Do they make money from religious activities? Apple and banana. Those people are just business men and women.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by Akpan107(m): 3:08pm On Feb 22, 2015
xreal:
Their parents must have showed them hell for converting.
i wonderd seeing myself liking ur post here, while in the political side, we are fighting and disagreeing!

Hmmmm... Such is life. Make u join PDP abeg!
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by mustymatic(m): 3:08pm On Feb 22, 2015
kafbola:
Just want u to realized that it can never be essy for a christen to convert to Muslim and become ALFA or IMAM
U are wrong..
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Who Were Born Muslims (Photos) by abbey086(m): 3:10pm On Feb 22, 2015
VANHELLSING:


I pity your pathetic soul, from light to darkness? Your are a GONNER kiss undecided
Am I pity your miserable soul too for using your brain upside down. You enjoyed the list of converts to Christianity from Islam, you have a self induced belief that is not possible for somebody to convert from Christianity to Islam. Somebody now used himself as an example of a convert, from Christianity to Islam and you started insulting him for his action.
At times, I wonder how gullible some people are. You people claimed that people only convert to Islam through force/Jihad because Islam is force while Christianity is "love". But reality on ground proved otherwise, Islamic is not a religion that fancy publicity about converts, even, converts are requested immediately after their conversion to change their names, that is why you won't know. People are leaving Islam because Islam is a blunt religion, it says things directly from our Creator even if we are not ok with it. Those Pastors are super rich today purely as a result tithe, they are milking their gullible followers. Have you ever heard of billionaire Imam, because they must have their legit source of income, because Islam makes to understand that we will give account of everything, you will give account of every kobo you have. So, if you want to use religion as a business, Islam is not for you.
you can only become rich in Islam through a legitimate source of income, every other illegal sources, there is a severe punishment waiting for you on the judgement day.

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