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Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by olamikhail(m): 10:16am On Jun 14, 2015
Setaje:



Write in English


go check for the traditional meaning.
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by nedu2000(m): 10:18am On Jun 14, 2015
menxer:
na wa ooo!
what a twisted way to reason. have u asked ur self why we are not using scroll or papyrus to publish books and documents?

the world as u know it is passing away...
the church shouldn't follow technology and civilisation bumper to bumper,we might get sucked in.
Homosexuality,gender changes,feminity have made their way in churches. I'm not against +ve change but we should be conscious of the happenings of the present day.
The scroll to book transition is different from the book to smartphone one.My opinion though,we all have varied levels of spiritually
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by Iceugwa(m): 10:19am On Jun 14, 2015
nedu2000:
Reasons why sincere Christians should take the book known as the bible to church not a smartphone


1) Holding a bible shows one to be a Christian in public,it acts as an 'identity card' for every Christian. Ipads,smartphones does no such thing

nonsence reasoning. Your christianity is your personality and not in a paper.

2)Civilisation/technology has given us world where homosexuality is gradually being accepted,female reverends and gender changes all in contrast to biblical pronouncements. The church shouldn't follow the ways of this present world so closely

please stop using anything technological, please go back to using wood to cook and not gas as gay men use gas. Discrimination of the highest order

3)Christians lose the essence of the bible like the order of biblical books(after genesis is exodus.....3rd John then revelations) as a simple google search provides answer in comparison to scrolling round the bible and get fully acquitted with it

of what use is this to you. Does it make you more christian than Bleep. The list of content will show you that as well

4) Ipads,smartphone substitutes acts as sources of distraction in churches with calls,pings,alerts and 'nairalanding' available at one's beck/call.

Noise, girls so many things can distract you.

5) Ipads,smartphones serve one primary aim to most holders,showoff

so is your paper bible. It is used to show off that you are a 'christian'

6) 'battery low'

torn bible

Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by nedu2000(m): 10:20am On Jun 14, 2015
uprightman:
Bible is not I'd card for Christian. By their fruits you shall know them
in a physical sense,the bible symbolises christianity.In some areas of the world carrying a bible on some specific days can lead you to jail
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by Setaje(f): 10:20am On Jun 14, 2015
olamikhail:



go check for the traditional meaning.


Direct me to a traditional meaning dictionary.
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by zicoraads: 10:21am On Jun 14, 2015
INTROVERT:
HOW COME A MUSLIM THREAD MAKES HARDLY FRONT PAGE ON FRIDAY.

Just thinking



Cc Seun
Because...because...because Muslims are lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by doofanc: 10:22am On Jun 14, 2015
To those claiming its show off, how exactly? If I can drive 1m car, will be unusual to see me with a tablet costing just about 20k?
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by DrAbbey1(m): 10:23am On Jun 14, 2015
nedu2000:
Reasons why sincere Christians should take the book known as the bible to church not a smartphone


1) Holding a bible shows one to be a Christian in public,it acts as an 'identity card' for every Christian. Ipads,smartphones does no such thing

2)Civilisation/technology has given us world where homosexuality is gradually being accepted,female reverends and gender changes all in contrast to biblical pronouncements. The church shouldn't follow the ways of this present world so closely

3)Christians lose the essence of the bible like the order of biblical books(after genesis is exodus.....3rd John then revelations) as a simple google search provides answer in comparison to scrolling round the bible and get fully acquitted with it

4) Ipads,smartphone substitutes acts as sources of distraction in churches with calls,pings,alerts and 'nairalanding' available at one's beck/call.

5) Ipads,smartphones serve one primary aim to most holders,showoff

6) 'battery low'

In response to your 6 points
1. Holding a bible in public is not your 'identity card' as a christian. Your identity card as a christian is your 'christ like' life.
2. Your 2nd point has no bearing to the topic. Would you rather be uncivilised? Your use of nairaland is a testament to beauty of technology.
3. Why are you sounding like someone that would use grinding stone instead of a blender.
4. There are features on each pad or tablet that can prevent such distracting features.
5. If using a tab/ I pad is a show off, then maybe you're broke.
6. There is a port for charging on every tab/i pad and it comes with a charger.
My point, don't get stuck in your archaic reasoning.
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by Mopolchi: 10:24am On Jun 14, 2015
nedu2000:
Reasons why sincere Christians should take the book known as the bible to church not a smartphone


1) Holding a bible shows one to be a Christian in public,it acts as an 'identity card' for every Christian. Ipads,smartphones does no such thing

2)Civilisation/technology has given us world where homosexuality is gradually being accepted,female reverends and gender changes all in contrast to biblical pronouncements. The church shouldn't follow the ways of this present world so closely

3)Christians lose the essence of the bible like the order of biblical books(after genesis is exodus.....3rd John then revelations) as a simple google search provides answer in comparison to scrolling round the bible and get fully acquitted with it

4) Ipads,smartphone substitutes acts as sources of distraction in churches with calls,pings,alerts and 'nairalanding' available at one's beck/call.

5) Ipads,smartphones serve one primary aim to most holders,showoff

6) 'battery low'

Who are you to judge?
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by kevoh(m): 10:25am On Jun 14, 2015
Vado:


You might as well say we should stop consuming plants and animals in order to prevent their extinction. Heck hunger is no biggie yeh? Let's stop cutting down of trees so that we can shutdown the furniture industry, i mean who needs paper currency, let's go electronic or just return to barter trade, wiping our asses with tissue after taking that dump is now over, water can always do it. Academic instituitions must quit using paper resources, they should go buy Opon Imon from Osun and sync it with power-point presentations to teach our kids from creche up till university level. I'm feeling you bro. We gotta leave these trees alone.
Clap for yourself! Now go back to the OP, then read my first post on this thread, understand properly my angle before you start ranting. Bible app is a feasible alternative to paper bible. If there's a better alternative at little cost why not use it. If people feel ok using bible app electronically why discourage them and force them to use paper bible instead.

All you have mentioned above still buttresses my point. The Academic institution you mentioned make use of paper sparingly these days and is embracing online technology to teach people. Thesis and Projects are published online. Book libraries are now a thing of the past as information from Libraries is readily made available to anyone with a simple access to internet. All this is done with minimum cost and damage to TREES.

Paper currency! I laugh in greek! Do you know Governments spend money in printing paper money? Ever heard of cashless policy? At what cost will it take me to transfer 350k to you right from this mobile phone than for the government to print paper currency of 350k that you have in your house, then you take bus to deliver same amount to me in my present location at the risk of being robbed.

I could go on and on...

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Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by falopey: 10:25am On Jun 14, 2015
hassymo5:
I DONT KNOW WHY WE KEEP THINKING THAT CARRYING BIBLE IS WAT MATTERS..HAVING THE SPIRIT IS WAT MATTERS..CARRYING BIBLE WITHOUT DOING WAT THE BIBLE SAYS IS PURE HYPOCRITICAL...
FOR ME SHOWING THE WORLD U ARE A CHRISTIAN IS NOT IT..BUT DOING WAT THE BIBLE TELLS US TO DO IS BETTER..

U CAN DEFECT THE DEVIL EVEN WITHOUT A BIBLE IN UR HANDS because THE SPIRIT OF GOD IN YOU CAN MAKE U DEFECT D DEVIL NOT BY HOLDING BIBLE...NEVA DID JESUS HOLD BIBLE WHILE DEFECTING THE DEVIL ,HE DEFECTED THE DEVIL because THE POWER OF GOD WAS IN HIM..

SO WE SHOULD STOP THINKING THAT CARRYING THE BIBLE IS ENUF..

A CHRISTIAN LIVE BY EXAMPLES ...UR WAY OF LIFE EVEN WITHOUT BIBLE TELL ALOT.

because I HAVE SEEN CHRISTIANS WHO CARRY BIBLE EVERY DAY AND EVERYWHERE YET VERY WICKED...

FINALLY DOERS OF THE WORD IS WAT GOD IS AFTER NOT HEARERS OR HOLDING THE BIBLE JUST TO SHOW U ARE A CHRISTAIN

You can't be all these or achieve all these overnight without first carrying your bible and showing the world who you are. I can't get born again today and start hiding my bible and be able to be all that you claimed.
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by chrisja(m): 10:26am On Jun 14, 2015
Such Ignorance, I think what you need to be identified as a TRUE Christian is to carry Scroll since that's where the 66 books which we call Bible today was translated. Hahahaha
That's how a certain church some years ago called the Television the Devils box... IGNORANCE.. Carrying the 66 book Bible is now the way of identification. Go carry Scroll.... Hahahaha

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Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by nedu2000(m): 10:27am On Jun 14, 2015
Mopolchi:
Who are you to judge?
i'm not judging,its merely my personal opinion
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by chigoizie7(m): 10:27am On Jun 14, 2015
nedu2000:
your right but in some ways there are many who are ashamed to hold their bibles as well

If u re ashamed to hold ur bible, den, u don't believe in it and in essence, u re not a christian. So, why holding wat u don't believe in?

In the same way, it will be hypocritical to hold the bible and show the world that u er a christian while in the true sense, u re not.
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by doofanc: 10:27am On Jun 14, 2015
Setaje:



You are the only person and the op that has written something reasonable. I see the bible app as something you use when u are not in church. I see the church as a sacred place. Phones and whatever gadgets u carry are a no no for me. I can use the bible app at home, in a bus, anywhere but when I go to church, the traditional way still stands.

Sister, a church is not the building but the collection of saints. Once two or three are gathered in His name, He is there. So what you cant use in the Church building shouldn't be used anywhere else. If you really want to go 'traditional' - whatever that means - then the scrolls, or engraved tablets would be more appropriate.

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Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by 2sizzlin(m): 10:29am On Jun 14, 2015
kekakuz:
[size=20pt]. yes I agree with you
what if the devil comes to attack you at night.
will point you phone to him
the same phone where u have pornn and davidos music
Christians of nowadays [/size]

First of all why is the devil coming to attack you? Is it only "in the night" that you know devil attack ppl? Who told you that you point the Bible at the devil when he attacks you? I perceive you've been watching plenty Nigerian films and hearing plenty idle gossips. If for any reason you can point a bible at Satan I don't see why a phone with with a bible can't be pointed at Satan. In fact I think phone is better because you can quickly check the Internet to know why the "pointing assault" isn't working.... Lol.

It's different strokes for different folks... In the next few years this will no longer be a thing to debate on.
Every advancement in technology is good, but how we handle it is what matters, just like money.

What's as good as having more than 1 translation/rendering in your phone screen simultaneously?

My manner wasn't nice, I know. Apologies

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Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by zicoraads: 10:31am On Jun 14, 2015
evegran:


smiley if u say so.
The guy prolly looked at your display picture before making that comment. Yours and that of the OP is as foolish as they come. Very foolish and myopic way of thinking. How can the paper bible suddenly take you closer to God? Really?

Who is your Pastor?
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by kevoh(m): 10:31am On Jun 14, 2015
chilet4cici:


what is this one saying? ode oshi

Here is one of the reasons I hate having a comment of mine being on the first/second page of a possible front page topic, you will get nicompoops like the petit batard above with no brain to carry on an intelligible discourse quoting you.
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by Mopolchi: 10:39am On Jun 14, 2015
nedu2000:
i'm not judging,its merely my personal opinion
If you are rendering an opinion, you should type as such. However, you typed as one making conclusion. The word of God is the word of God be it in hard copy bible or in smartphone. The smartphone is handy since you do not carry your hardcopy bible around. There are certain situations you will want to read the word of God and you have that of smartphone accessible.
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by Nobody: 10:40am On Jun 14, 2015
hassymo5:


I have seen many filled with spirit without holding bible...
beside Jesus and his disciples Neva hold anything things yet they devil flee them...

The message my friend is obey wat the Bible says and do wat is right and b filled with Gods spirit.

we just think every man filled with Gods spirit must have a Bible with him always...I don't think so
FYI the word himself was with them (Jesus christ) 'the word became flesh' remember?
Jesus Christ was their Bible.
My question is, how can one be spirit filled without the Bible? I mean, if you're not frequently With the word, how can you study? Then become spirit filled?
Though I know there are people that only hold the Bible for show-off.
My point is, there's no spirit filled Christian who isn't seen frequently with the Bible. The word 'frequently' as used in the context also connotes 'study'.
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by 2sizzlin(m): 10:42am On Jun 14, 2015
chrisja:
Such Ignorance, I think what you need to be identified as a TRUE Christian is to carry Scroll since that's where the 66 books which we call Bible today was translated. Hahahaha
That's how a certain church some years ago called the Television the Devils box... IGNORANCE.. Carrying the 66 book Bible is now the way of identification. Go carry Scroll.... Hahahaha

doofanc:


Sister, a church is not the building but the collection of saints. Once two or three are gathered in His name, He is there. So what you cant use in the Church building shouldn't be used anywhere else. If you really want to go 'traditional' - whatever that means - then the scrolls, or engraved tablets would be more appropriate.

leke12:
Lol! The most important thing is d word even if u don't have ipad nor bible hardcover. The diff btw d them is one is in soft copy and d other is in hard copy, too much of noollywood makes u believe if u point bible to devil it will run. Moreover have u seen d devil before??

I didn't even see these posts b4 I posted... Thank God Common sense is still common to some ppl.
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by hassymo5(m): 10:47am On Jun 14, 2015
deejay2x67:
FYI the word himself was with them (Jesus christ) 'the word became flesh' remember?
Jesus Christ was their Bible.
My question is, how can one be spirit filled without the Bible? I mean, if you're not frequently With the word, how can you study? Then become spirit filled?
Though I know there are people that only hold the Bible for show-off.
My point is, there's no spirit filled Christian who isn't seen frequently with the Bible. The word 'frequently' as used in the context also connotes 'study'.
deejay2x67:
FYI the word himself was with them (Jesus christ) 'the word became flesh' remember?
Jesus Christ was their Bible.
My question is, how can one be spirit filled without the Bible? I mean, if you're not frequently With the word, how can you study? Then become spirit filled?
Though I know there are people that only hold the Bible for show-off.
My point is, there's no spirit filled Christian who isn't seen frequently with the Bible. The word 'frequently' as used in the context also connotes 'study'.


seen with the bible is not wat makes u filled with holy spirit...
men the likes of you will b simply deceived by ANTICHRIST...
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by hassymo5(m): 10:54am On Jun 14, 2015
falopey:

You can't be all these or achieve all these overnight without first carrying your bible and showing the world who you are. I can't get born again today and start hiding my bible and be able to be all that you claimed.

Somany pple carry the Bible and yet there is no holy spirit in them why
so are u saying u cannot defect the devil without ur bible
if u can't defect the devil without the bible then I'm sorry for....
born again is more than than just carrying Bible around...

your way of life and actions will tell me if u are born again without ur Bible .....
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by Nobody: 10:55am On Jun 14, 2015
Setaje:



You are the only person and the op that has written something reasonable. I see the bible app as something you use when u are not in church. I see the church as a sacred place. Phones and whatever gadgets u carry are a no no for me. I can use the bible app at home, in a bus, anywhere but when I go to church, the traditional way still stands.
very true. I was so happy when the soldiers in my church security check point sent a student back, when confronted with the question
Where are going?
Church, he replied
And your Bible? Asked the soldier
Attempting to bring out his phone, from his pocket,
Go back home and get your Bible. He soldier said.
I was later sad, knowing he might not come back.

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Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by kingdenny(m): 10:59am On Jun 14, 2015
Vado:


You might as well say we should stop consuming plants and animals in order to prevent their extinction. Heck hunger is no biggie yeh? Let's stop cutting down of trees so that we can shutdown the furniture industry, i mean who needs paper currency, let's go electronic or just return to barter trade, wiping our asses with tissue after taking that dump is now over, water can always do it. Academic instituitions must quit using paper resources, they should go buy Opon Imon from Osun and sync it with power-point presentations to teach our kids from creche up till university level. I'm feeling you bro. We gotta leave these trees alone.

I am feeling you bro
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by Nobody: 11:00am On Jun 14, 2015
kekakuz:
[size=20pt]. yes I agree with you
what if the devil comes to attack you at night.
will point you phone to him
the same phone where u have pornn and davidos music
Christians of nowadays [/size]
all those mount zion film don finish una head....who tell u say until u point ur bible at d devil b4 God revoke d devil for u.......over religion dey worry average nigerian. ........mtcheeew
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by hassymo5(m): 11:05am On Jun 14, 2015
IF U WANT TO DECEIVE NIGERIANS JUST HOLD A BIBLE AND JUST KNOW HOW TO SPEAK AND CITE THE BIBLE..

THATS WHY NIGERIANS ARE EASILY DECEIVED BY FALSE PROPHETS...

NIGERIAN MAN GO DEY ONE CHURCH DEM THE BEAT AM ,,SELL YOUR HOUSE AND BRING PROCEEDS.. USE FIRE BURN YOU,,,AS LONG AS THE MAN OF GOD HOLD BIBLE THEY WILL STILL DEY THERE...
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by Setaje(f): 11:09am On Jun 14, 2015
doofanc:


Sister, a church is not the building but the collection of saints. Once two or three are gathered in His name, He is there. So what you cant use in the Church building shouldn't be used anywhere else. If you really want to go 'traditional' - whatever that means - then the scrolls, or engraved tablets would be more appropriate.

I would gladly use a scroll if I see one. How do u justify using a bible app on a phone or gadget that has porn on it. It makes no sense. Many youths have porn and do all sorts wiv their phones. To me it's like putting the bible and porn on the same shelf. Even we as humans, when we read the bible, we are meant to be purified in truth and in spirit. Not to talk of when reading that same bible through a gadget that has uncountable atrocities.
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by nedu2000(m): 11:10am On Jun 14, 2015
Mopolchi:
If you are rendering an opinion, you should type as such. However, you typed as one making conclusion. The word of God is the word of God be it in hard copy bible or in smartphone. The smartphone is handy since you do not carry your hardcopy bible around. There are certain situations you will want to read the word of God and you have that of smartphone accessible.
I use my phone when i'm some place else,but when I go to church I view carrying a smartphone as a no no
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by Mopolchi: 11:13am On Jun 14, 2015
nedu2000:
I use my phone when i'm some place else,but when I go to church I view carrying a smartphone as a no no
When the desired is not available, the available becomes desired.
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by nedu2000(m): 11:14am On Jun 14, 2015
zicoraads:
The guy prolly looked at your display picture before making that comment. Yours and that of the OP is as foolish as they come. Very foolish and myopic way of thinking. How can the paper bible suddenly take you closer to God? Really?

Who is your Pastor?
you don't need to be insultive,carrying a smartphone is arguably not right but labelling a fellow human being a fool is definitely wrong and a sin Mathew 5:22
Re: Why Smartphones Are No Substitute For Bibles by Nobody: 11:19am On Jun 14, 2015
hassymo5:



seen with the bible is not wat makes u filled with holy spirit...
men the likes of you will b simply deceived by ANTICHRIST...
really??
Did you understand my post at all?
How can one be spirit filled without frequenting the Bible?
It was after 'the word' (Jesus Christ) left before the Holy Spirit came on the disciples.
Get me right, the Holy Spirit came in conjunction with the word.
The Holy Spirit came down on them because
They were always with the word (Jesus Christ)
They received the word (Jesus christ)
They lived based on the precepts of the word.

The word is now our Bible
How can your alleged 'spirit filled' people actually be spirit filled without frequenting the word.
And in turn live by it.


Is it possible to live by Biblical standards, without knowing what the Bible is saying?

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