superior1
You still have not answered the case study question. Are my actions moral or not according to your moral standard.
You also did not explain how slavery and rape were denounced. I have not seen this denounced anywhere. So why are they now considered bad?

How can you consider something immoral, when you do not have a standard of measuring what is moral?
I have explained how a secular society tackles this. If you don't agree or you don't understand then so be it. Repetition will not help.

[quote author=Redlyn post=36171152]superior1

You still have not answered the case study question. Are my actions moral or not according to your moral standard.

In my eyes and in the eyes of the law, you just committed murder. It is not your right to determine under what condition someone should live or not.

You also did not explain how slavery and rape were denounced. I have not seen this denounced anywhere. So why are they now considered bad?

You are not making much sense here because you assumed I am Theist without me saying so.

How can you consider something immoral, when you do not have a standard of measuring what is moral?
I have explained how a secular society tackles this. If you don't agree or you don't understand then so be it. Repetition will not help.

No, you haven't. I asked you if lying is wrong and you cant give a moral truth in response because you lack a moral measure.

Obviously, our converse as reached a stalemate. It was nice engaging you

From my engagement so far, it is apparent atheists have no standard measure for moral good or bad and the nearest to a measure is the law of the land which some said should be the arbiter of what is morally wrong or right.

If one is to accept this position, how then should we judge areas not covered in the law books e.g, there is no law saying lying is wrong therefore under atheism, lying cant be said to be good or bad.

If atheists believe that the law of the land should be the moral arbiter are they then alluding to absolute morality since the law doesnt bend to personal desires?. how can they relate moral relativism to the law of the land which is absolute

I will like to get more opinions from atheists.

I did not assume you were a theist.
You said: Assuming I were a Theist, my answer will be 'on the basis of my religious affiliation which denounces both'

My response is I dont see where this is denounced regardless if you really are a theist or not. It is an important point that highlights the moral point of view that slavery is wrong is not from religious text. Discussion is difficult when you choose to hide your perspective.

From your conclusion you appear to have dismissed all answers provided by atheists on this topic, so there is really no more to be said.

Redlyn:
I did not assume you were a theist.
You said: Assuming I were a Theist, my answer will be 'on the basis of my religious affiliation which denounces both'
My response is I dont see where this is denounced regardless if you really are a theist or not. It is an important point that highlights the moral point of view that slavery is wrong is not from religious text. Discussion is difficult when you choose to hide your perspective.
From your conclusion you appear to have dismissed all answers provided by atheists on this topic, so there is really no more to be said.

No, I havent. I only draw out points relevant to topic in discuss