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Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by Jozzy4: 6:08pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
According to my Bible, God described Himself as "I AM"....
and pray tell where angels used the term "I AM".

Okay, read judges 13:11 and you will be suprised : yes " I AM"
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 6:10pm On Aug 05, 2015
Jozzy4:


I dont fancy all this Copy and paste, answer me : who is God praying to ? Another God ?

Meanwhile if "I Am" = God , do u agree that angels are God too since they also claim the name " I am" ?
dont be lazy, once you see a write up, you start to believe it is copy and paste...learn to read.

God the son was praying to God the father. They had a communion before the world was even created. read up before you quote me again.
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by DrLazDevitan: 6:16pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
I want you to think about a few things.
Where did the universe come from?
Do you really believe you came from stardust?
If so, where did the original matter or energy come from?
There is no logical scientific answer!
The only truly logical answer is God!
Science has proven that you can neither create nor
destroy energy or matter.
You can transform something from one state to
another; but you cannot create nor destroy it.
God is the only answer that makes perfect sense.
Only God!
Where did the universe begin?
It is impossible for something not to have a beginning?
So where did the universe all start?
What existed before that?
These thoughts should scar you friend!
There is no explanation!
Only God!
Where did life begin?
How can nothing become something?
How can lifeless material bring forth life?
How can life become man?
How can nothing take on intelligence?
How can nothing evolve and reproduce?
Where did man's spirit come from?
Why don't animals have a moral conscience?
It is all utterly impossible according to every known
scientific fact.
Only God!
How big is the universe?
Where does it end?
If it is ever expanding, then what's beyond it's outer limits?
Think about this real good friend, because it proves
God's existence!
It is a scientific fact that the universe MUST have an
end to it.
If so, what is beyond the end?
There must be an end to the universe!
This should scar you very much!
If the universe has no boundaries, then where does it
end?
If the universe expands outward forever, what is
beyond it reaches?
There is no logical scientific answer friend!
Only God!


"In the beginning God created the heaven and the
earth" (Genesis 1:1).

"For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God
the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water
and in the water" (2nd Peter 3:5).

"All things were made by him; and without him was not any
thing made that was made" (John 1:3).

"He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the
world knew him not" (John 1:10).

"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that
are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or
dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created
by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all
things consist" (Colossians 1:16,17).

"...seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things" (Acts
17:25).

"Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his
thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have
mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly
pardon" (Isaiah 55:7).

Whether there is a God or not — both possibilities are
frightening!

Won't you say "yes" to Jesus Christ as your Savior?

Our world has precluded on essence.

If we are to exist,then God must die.The essence of god is not in Existence.
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 6:17pm On Aug 05, 2015
Jozzy4:


Okay, read judges 13:11 and you will be suprised : yes " I AM"
No Bible will use it in upper case. Manoah asked a simple question; "are you the man that spoke to my wife, I am"......
You yourself dont you use these words daily...


God described Himself as I AM in the Bible dosent mean you become God if you say i am.

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Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 6:19pm On Aug 05, 2015
Jozzy4:
God the son (jesus) was praying to another jesus (God the father) .. Two Gods , Two Jesus
When God manifested in the flesh, The name he took when he came to earth was Jesus.....
He is God the Son.
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by davien(m): 6:26pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
When God manifested in the flesh, The name he took when he came to earth was Jesus.....
He is God the Son.
So who was Jesus praying to on earth?
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 6:38pm On Aug 05, 2015
davien:
So who was Jesus praying to on earth?
Read up the thread again, your answers are there.
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by davien(m): 6:43pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
Read up the thread again, your answers are there.
If the answers were there would I still be asking?...if Jesus is god and Jesus came to earth in human form, then who was Jesus praying to?
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 6:50pm On Aug 05, 2015
davien:
If the answers were there would I still be asking?...if Jesus is god and Jesus came to earth in human form, then who was Jesus praying to?
yeah its possible you ask again. Read again, and slowly this time and then ask a question that i have not yet answered.
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by davien(m): 6:56pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
yeah its possible you ask again. Read again, and slowly this time and then ask a question that i have not yet answered.
Okay...not answered, why would Jesus pray to a god when he's god?
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 7:03pm On Aug 05, 2015
davien:
Okay...not answered, why pray to a god when he's god?
You will still need to read again...slowly this time...
God the Son had a fellowship and a communion with God the father from everlasting.

When God the Son came in human flesh, what did you expect?, you expect Him to sever ties with God the Father?...

open your mind biko..
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by davien(m): 7:14pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
You will still need to read again...slowly this time...
God the Son had a fellowship and a communion with God the father from everlasting.

When God the Son came in human flesh, what did you expect?, you expect Him to sever ties with God the Father?...

open your mind biko..
Then it gets to how god can be a son to his father and a father to his son(with no mother by the way)
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 7:22pm On Aug 05, 2015
davien:
Then it gets to how god can be a son to his father and a father to his son(with no mother by the way)
You look for a mother because you are Human.
The ability to reason that a man needs a mother has been put in you by your Maker. Jesus came through an imaculate birth from a Virgin. That alone supercedes any human reasoning.
Your source for scientific and physical knowledge is limited to your senses as deemed fit by your Maker.
You wanna find Him through physical means, then grow senses that can allow you to physically feel His presence.

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Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by Jozzy4: 8:22pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
No Bible will use it in upper case. Manoah asked a simple question; "are you the man that spoke to my wife, I am"......
You yourself dont you use these words daily...


God described Himself as I AM in the Bible dosent mean you become God if you say i am.
Oga, Jesus didnt say " I AM THAT I AM" , just like that angel, he only said I am , and uv confess it doesnt mean he is God ! good


You are extremely confuse , angels claim the title " i am"
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by Jozzy4: 8:28pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
dont be lazy, once you see a write up, you start to believe it is copy and paste...learn to read.

God the son was praying to God the father. They had a communion before the world was even created. read up before you quote me again.


Imagine , God the son WAS PRAYING TO another God the father grin polytheism, a God is praying to another God .

Pls whats the name of God the Father ?
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 8:38pm On Aug 05, 2015
Jozzy4:


Imagine , God the son WAS PRAYING TO another God the father grin polytheism, a God is praying to another God .

Pls whats the name of God the Father ?
John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to
you, before Abraham was, I AM.”..

if you can read well, you will see where i said God in three persons. Not three persons as God. His Being supercedes your physical logic..

John 4:26
Jesus said to her, "I who speak to you am He."
John 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the
bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger,
and he who believes in Me will never thirst.
John 8:23
And He was saying to them, "You are from below, I am from
above; you are of this world, I am not of this world.
Revelation 1:8
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and
who was and who is to come, the Almighty."
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by Jozzy4: 8:48pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to
you, before Abraham was, I AM.”..

if you can read well, you will see where i said God in three persons. Not three persons as God. His Being supercedes your physical logic..


Who capitalise " I AM" , is it not the english translators ? Guy uv been deceived .

If sayin "I Am" means GOD , do u admit that the heavenly being that describe himself as " I am" in judges 13:11 is God ? Answer me ... Hope u know that being in judges 13:11 is called God ?
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by Jozzy4: 9:11pm On Aug 05, 2015
davien:
If the answers were there would I still be asking?...if Jesus is god and Jesus came to earth in human form, then who was Jesus praying to?

Good question: they say God himself come down to earth , funny enough we still see God praying , to who exactly ? Afrall he has come down to earth .

Funny enough , God said he is not doing his own will , lol , whose will is he doing ? Imagine the Almighty doing the will of another God ?


The worst part of it : they say God die and was buried in the grave . This people dont use their brains .

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Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 9:22pm On Aug 05, 2015
Jozzy4:


Who capitalise " I AM" , is it not the english translators ? Guy uv been deceived .

If sayin "I Am" means GOD , do u admit that the heavenly being that describe himself as " I am" in judges 13:11 is God ? Answer me ... Hope u know that being in judges 13:11 is called God ?
Lol, you all blame the english translators. God Himself has preserved His Word, no matter what you or anyone else says..

The being was an angel of the Lord, an envoy of God....
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 9:29pm On Aug 05, 2015
Jozzy4:


Good question: they say God himself come down to earth , funny enough we still see God praying , to who exactly ? Afrall he has come down to earth .

Funny enough , God said he is not doing his own will , lol , whose will is he doing ? Imagine the Almighty doing the will of another God ?


The worst part of it : they say God die and was buried in the grave . This people dont use their brains .


The bible calls you foolish severally, you want to limit the ways of God to suit your reasoning.


1 cor 1:18
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those
who are perishing, but it is God's power to us who
are being saved.


Our God is a mysterious God, His ways are far from yours.

1 tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of
godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified
in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the
Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into
glory.

Try harder, people have come before you and people will come after you. I hope at your appointed time you will be in God.
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by Jozzy4: 9:35pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:

Lol, you all blame the english translators. God Himself has preserved His Word, no matter what you or anyone else says..

The being was an angel of the Lord, an envoy of God....

See your life , scripture call that angel " God" ? Yes Or No .
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by davien(m): 9:36pm On Aug 05, 2015
Jozzy4:


Good question: they say God himself come down to earth , funny enough we still see God praying , to who exactly ? Afrall he has come down to earth .

Funny enough , God said he is not doing his own will , lol , whose will is he doing ? Imagine the Almighty doing the will of another God ?


The worst part of it : they say God die and was buried in the grave . This people dont use their brains .


lol....I dey ask am may he use hin brain he no gree...grin
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by Jozzy4: 9:46pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
The bible calls you foolish severally, you want to limit the ways of God to suit your reasoning.


1 cor 1:18
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those
who are perishing, but it is God's power to us who
are being saved.


Our God is a mysterious God, His ways are far from yours.

1 tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of
godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified
in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the
Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into
glory.

Try harder, people have come before you and people will come after you. I hope at your appointed time you will be in God.


Eeyah, God is a mystery to you .. What u dont know is a mystery . Same way Chemistry is a mystery to an art student bcoz he doesnt know it , so also you dont know God . Its a big mystery to you .

Your case is serious .

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Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 9:56pm On Aug 05, 2015
Jozzy4:


Eeyah, God is a mystery to you .. What u dont know is a mystery . Same way Chemistry is a mystery to an art student bcoz he doesnt know it , so also you dont know God . Its a big mystery to you .

Your case is serious .
Like i said, the Bible calls your type foolish.
"mystery" equals "dont know" shey, get a dictionary and check up the difference between dont know and difficult to understand and then decide whose case is serious .. quit disgracing yourself..
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 9:58pm On Aug 05, 2015
davien:
lol....I dey ask am may he use hin brain he no gree...grin
I thot u wer dumbb, because i asked you to read and you didnt reply since then. Now your equal has posted dust and you are dancing like a kid... Grow up and get a brain
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by Jozzy4: 10:04pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
Like i said, the Bible calls your type foolish.
"mystery" equals "dont know" shey, get a dictionary and check up the difference between dont know and difficult to understand and then decide whose case is serious .. quit disgracing yourself..

Eeyah , God is difficult to understand !

You need help .
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 10:08pm On Aug 05, 2015
Jozzy4:


Eeyah , God is difficult to understand !

You need help .
Yeah, God moves in mysterious ways and sadly, you like others before you will just die in your hate for your Maker.
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by Jozzy4: 10:18pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
Yeah, God moves in mysterious ways and sadly, you like others before you will just die in your hate for your Maker.


When something is UNknown , its a mystery .

Next time , when you are asked : who is God ? Just say " I dont know" .

Jesus said : " we worship what we know" John 4:22 ! Lol , he himself said he worship what he know . But to you you worship what you dont understand , grin grin grin

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Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 10:29pm On Aug 05, 2015
Jozzy4:


When something is UNknown , its a mystery .

Next time , when you are asked : who is God ? Just say " I dont know" .

Jesus said : " we worship what we know" John 4:22 ! Lol , he himself said he worship what he know . But to you you worship what you dont understand , grin grin grin
As much as you want to put words into my mouth, I dont misfire....
Our God is a mysterious God who moves in mysterious ways. And also The godliness remains a mystery as the apostle said. .We know what God has revealed to us, and He will continue to reveal to us concerning His mystery till we meet with Him .
You on the other have no essence, no being, no purpose. Give proof that you are better than dust.
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by Jozzy4: 11:04pm On Aug 05, 2015
winner01:
As much as you want to put words into my mouth, I dont misfire....
Our God is a mysterious God who moves in mysterious ways. And also The godliness remains a mystery as the apostle said .We know what God has revealed to us, and He will continue to reveal to us concerning His mystery till we meet with Him .
Interestingly, The apostle didnt say god is a mystery , he said godliness ( devotion or reverence to God) . Haba ! grin

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Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by winner01(m): 12:19am On Aug 06, 2015
Jozzy4:

Interestingly, The apostle didnt say god is a mystery , he said godliness ( devotion or reverence to God) . Haba ! grin


You try to sound smart but all i see is foolishness, Which is more credible? your own definition or that of the apostle....

disgrace your self one more time
Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by johnydon22(m): 2:00am On Aug 06, 2015
This is not even a debate, Just poorly constructed ad hominems, back to back personal attacks and a discourse riddled in emotions . . .#Sighs

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