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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 5:04pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro: The bolded is exactly what i am saying. Rooney isn't a classic number 10 or a midfielder but a striker and he's playing that position because of his link up play and striking instinct. He'll always have a fair share of goals as a striker in that position. It is always a tactical advantage to the team because they will be playing as two strikers whether one is ahead or on level in tactics formation(442/4411) which has always been peculiar to England national team. This is unlike the classic number 10 (trequartista) who will always operate majorly from the midfield position,will be mobile and able to drift to the flanks and help his winger create overloads. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:09pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro:This is one of the many posts u posted during the course of the said argument. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:18pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
parrotibaba: He played many matches on the left wing. How doesn't that imply he played mainly in the wing? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:22pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro:and what does "many matches" imply? If a player plays the striker role many times in his career (meaning 80/100) doesn't that mean that he played there mainly in his career? Should I dig out more posts? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:29pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
tess1: You know the argument is not about whether Rooney is classical number 10 or not. The coach determines if a player is to play as an Attacking midfielder, a second/support striker or as a co-striker. However, an AM and an SS are called number 10 in football and there is no much difference between them. Rooney has operated mostly as an AM and SS for club and country. Even recently Rooney played as an AM behind Van Persie under SAF and Moyes. He also did behind Falcao and Van Persie under Gaal. In National team recently he played as An AM behind Sturridge, Welbeck and Defoe. These are very recent and still fresh in our memories. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:31pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
parrotibaba: Everyone here including Coogar knows I have never implied Rooney played mainly in the wing. You comprehend wrongly. You may wish to go review the arguments all over again. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:37pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
Parrotibaba, na wa for you o. Why are you like this na? I just went back to the argument in February this year, we were talking about Rooney having many matches in the wing in his United career. Just wait now. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:38pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro: |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:45pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro: Your response parrotibaba: In your response above, you mentioned 2011. Which meant we were talking about his entire career. I even posted some ZM formations of 2008. Even tonight, I can go fetching you more formations from whoscored showing Rooney in the wing in 2010/11 and 2011/12 seasons. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:46pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro:Why am I like what? I remember when u started singing the "Wayne Rooney was mainly a number 10 for united" hymn a couple of months ago n I brought up this point which u denied b4 I backed it up with screenshots then. You said Wayne Rooney played as a number 10 all his united career with the exceptions of the 2009/2010 season so I ask? how can he be the best number 10 of his generation when u opined that he played on the wings for many games? Remember na u start this argument. Me n coogar said that he was used on the wings rarely but u said mainly n went ahead to support ur claim with "ekwe sample" articles. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:49pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro: Look at the above. I equated Rooney's time in the wing to his time in central midfield. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:51pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
parrotibaba: Everyone knew I have always said Rooney has been mainly number 10 and that has not changed. You never backed anything with a screen shot I did not give a superior evidence. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:55pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
parrotibaba:So u chose a post which didn't start the argument to suit ur situation? This was my second post after I quoted u saying this... Rooney has played in the wing almost as same I replied u with "that's a fat lie" before u replied with... Rooney's first two seasons were basically fromwe never mentioned a particular season until later |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:01pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
parrotibaba: This was your response when I said Rooney has had same time in the wing as midfield. Your position was that Rooney has never had more than 2 or 3 matches in the wing. Even Coogar had to reply you at some point that Rooney was used in the wing to nullify oppositions in some matches. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:04pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
I don't want this argument to drag on for pages so I'd like to end it here. Everyone makes mistakes whether they accept it or not. You goofed up. Sh!t happens. If you delved further into the said argument, particularly between u and coogar, u will see that u were implying that Rooney played mainly on the wings for united n even said that he enjoyed it(playing on the wings). The other day u said Rooney played as a number 10 during the 2011/12 season before Rooney himself cleared the air. EOD |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:06pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
parrotibaba: You even agreed before Rooney played Behind Nistelrooy and Saha. After indoctrination into opposition group you changed your stance to Rooney was our lead striker except 2012 /13. Ayagayagayagayo hei ayagayagayagayo |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:06pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro:I said Rooney rarely played on the wings n u said he played many matches on the wing, in fact his first two seasons were on the wings n down the years he played many matches on the wings. What does that tell you? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:10pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro:so u r now changing post! Quote where I said Rooney played as a striker in his first two seasons at united? After singing "Wayne Rooney was mainly a winger at united" u r now singing "he is mainly a number 10 for united" Ukwu!!!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:16pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
afrodoc2: That euro cup final was pathetic. Henry had multiple chances especially on the left side and he kept shooting directly at toldo Left to Henry, France would have lost that game |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:17pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
parrotibaba: You don't know what you are saying. The argument is from page 1388. People can go back to read. You are the only one who misunderstood it. Let me tell you, I have been here since March/April 2013, no one here has ever misunderstood me on where I said Rooney played mainly in his club career. The argument dates back prior to your discovery of this thread. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:20pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
parrotibaba: You are yet to bring out any comment where I said Rooney was mainly a winger in his United career. You don't pay attention to details and it's not the first or second time. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:22pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro:I don already give up for the matter. Folks can go back n read the argument. I dey my own jeje u carry ur wahala come my side |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 6:47pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro: What i have said is that he has majorly played as a striker in two striker formation which will always give him an opportunity to score goals. That's also why i said that the all the goals he has scored in this qualifying has been as a striker. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:47pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
elampiro: When player A is a striker and he is used as a midfielder for many games at a club, doesn't that imply that he was mainly a midfielder at the said club? Simple reasoning! Elampiro: "Wayne Rooney played as a winger for many games in his career" Me: " So u r implying that Wayne Rooney was mainly a winger for most of his career?" What is hard to comprehend there? Ayagagayagayagayo! Ayagayagayagayo! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 7:11pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
Na wa oo for this thread! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:12pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
Not another Rooney's position brouhaha on this thread for Allah's sake!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 7:20pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
Even after all this time spent in the gulag things remain the same on this thread! Carry on! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mourinholic(m): 7:26pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
If I get a kobo for every time Rooney's name have been mentioned on this thread....... I will buy both Manchester clubs,pay Rooney's wages for a Century and keep change enough to buy Arsenal's trophies cabinet for the past decade |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:27pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
airmark: you are a consummate retard! so you are using the opinion of other people to tell me who did well in a particular game? are you out of your mind? what statistical evidence was used to come up with the useless ratings you went to dig out? this is why it's tedious to even engage in any verbal exchange with you. you lack the intellectual standing to quote me on football matters. coogar might need to get a restraining order against you on a permanent basis. i am yet to see a more brainless human being on this forum. tess1: rooney is hopeless..... he has been lucky throughout his career that he was named the golden boy ever since he scored that screamer against everton in arsenal's first attempt to create the unbeaten run. rooney ended their run in their 30th game unbeaten. he has also been lucky no one else has been excused for poor performance in the history of association football as rooney. why won't he break england's record? it took the lazy berbatov only 70 games to score 48 international goals for a poor country like bulgaria. klose has 71 in 116 and england are celebrating rooney's record of 48 in 105?? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 7:31pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
coogar: SKIDmark don vex my guy! Lmfao! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 7:32pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
United don suffer? So na why de gea documents no reach spain be this? 1 Like
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:46pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
funlord: it's tedious arguing with a complete plonker..... tess1: he doesn't have the instinct of a classic number 10. he cannot pass the ball unless it's 70 yards. his first touch is horrible, he does not possess the skill to thread that eye of the needle kinda pass to strikers. classic number 10s are david silva, george haggi, messi, coutinho, maradona, zidane, etc. these ones have an incredible dribbling skills and killer passes that would unzip any defence no matter how much they wanna pack the bus. rooney started as a forward and then as the years rolled by he knew he was never good enough to be the lead striker for club and country. this is why his position is not definite. people argue for years over his best position. rooney himself does not know his best position. one moment he loves to play as #9, the next moment, he's fighting to play as #10. |
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