elampiro:


In two strikers tadem, it is always defined who is to play deeper. The one playing deeper is a second striker and a number 10. It doesn't however mean there won't be moments when the number 10 could be higher up the pitch.

I have read where it was stated Rooney played far deeper behind Owen. They had 15 goals together with Rooney scoring 7 and Owen 8.

elampiro:


He played many matches on the left wing. I am not talking of 5 or 6 matches. Many. He was played often since 2005. Barca and Madrid arent even the ones I am considering.

Let me tell you, in the course of many arguments here, I have submitted many evidences over the years. Just that it is impossible to gather all. And this is a week day.

So all the articles I have presented and some specific matches I have mentioned are lies?

parrotibaba:
This is one of the many posts u posted during the course of the said argument.

elampiro:


He played many matches on the left wing. How doesn't that implied he played mainly in the wing?

tess1:


The bolded is exactly what i am saying. Rooney isn't a classic number 10 or a midfielder but a striker and he's playing that position because of his link up play and striking instinct. He'll always have a fair share of goals as a striker in that position. It is always a tactical advantage to the team because they will be playing as two strikers whether one is ahead or on level in tactics formation(442/4411) which has always been peculiar to England national team.

This is unlike the classic number 10 (trequartista) who will always operate majorly from the midfield position,will be mobile and able to drift to the flanks and help his winger create overloads.

parrotibaba:
and what does "many matches" imply? If a player plays the striker role many times in his career (meaning 80/100) doesn't that mean that he played there mainly in his career? Should I dig out more posts?

elampiro:


Rooney's first two seasons were basically from the wings. In other seasons he got plenty games in the wings too.

For England, he had always been in the wing mostly.

elampiro:


He played many matches in the wing. You didnt follow up well.

He was mostly in the wings in difficult matches, particularly in UCL. For instance, in 2008 he was in the wing in Rome.

In 2009, he was in the wing against Arsenal to track Theo Walcott. In the final against Barca he was in the wing. In 2011 he had a run of matches in the wing. In 2012/13 he was played in the wing in some matches, not just against Madrid.

* His time in the wing dates back to 2005.

parrotibaba:
do u even know what u r saying ? dat he played 2 or 3 times on d wings is not d same thing as playing many matches on d wings ,so cos park played in defense a few times makes him a defender? Like I n coogar said ,he was deployed on d wings against great opponents ,not to create an avenue for attacks but to nullify d opponents' attacks ,d cases of r.Madrid n barca comes to mind ...



And please mention d matches he was deployed as a winger in '11

elampiro:
Parrotibaba, na wa for you o. Why are you like this na? I just went back to the argument in February this year, we were talking about Rooney having many matches in the wing in his United career.

Just wait now.

elampiro:



[b]Rooney has played in the wing almost as same time he has played in the middle in his Man United career.[/b]And even England. Last match he did well everytime he went to the wing, and he even gave a cross from an almost impossible angle/situation.

parrotibaba:
Why am I like what? I remember when u started singing the "Wayne Rooney was mainly a number 10 for united" hymn a couple of months ago n I brought up this point which u denied b4 I backed it up with screenshots then. You said Wayne Rooney played as a number 10 all his united career with the exceptions of the 2009/2010 season so I ask? how can he be the best number 10 of his generation when u opined that he played on the wings for many games? Remember na u start this argument.

Me n coogar said that he was used on the wings rarely but u said mainly n went ahead to support ur claim with "ekwe sample" articles.

parrotibaba:
on the Moyes/Dortmund issue ,I think u need to go back to school unless u clarify d statement dat I just quoted

on the Rooney/wing issue ,Rooney rarely played on d wing in his entire united career ,his first two seasons he played as an ss behind van nilsteroy n saha ,so I don't know where u got dat idea from

on the zaha issue ,I hv corrected my mistake

Rooney has played in the wing almost as same
time he has played in the middle in his Man
United career. And even England. Last match he
did well everytime he went to the wing, and he
even gave a cross from an almost impossible
angle/situation.

Rooney's first two seasons were basically from
the wings. In other seasons he got plenty games
in the wings too.
For England, he had always been in the wing
mostly.

parrotibaba:

dats a fat lie

parrotibaba:
on the Moyes/Dortmund issue ,I think u need to go back to school unless u clarify d statement dat I just quoted

on the Rooney/wing issue ,Rooney rarely played on d wing in his entire united career ,his first two seasons he played as an ss behind van nilsteroy n saha ,so I don't know where u got dat idea from

on the zaha issue ,I hv corrected my mistake

elampiro:


This was your response when I said Rooney has had same time in the wing as midfield.

Your position was that Rooney has never had more than 2 or 3 matches in the wing.

Even Coogar had to reply you at some point that Rooney was used in the wing to nullify oppositions in some matches.

elampiro:




You even agreed before Rooney played Behind Nistelrooy and Saha. After indoctrination into opposition group you changed your stance to Rooney was our lead striker except 2012 /13.













Ayagayagayagayo hei ayagayagayagayo

afrodoc2:


That is true. Euro 2000 against Italy.
I already mentioned the UEFA Final against Gala in which Hagi got a red card early in extra time.

When you play about 10 finals without scoring a goal it is no fluke but a pattern. When you score goals in about 7 finals too it is no fluke but a pattern.

parrotibaba:
I don't want this argument to drag on for pages so I'd like to end it here. Everyone makes mistakes whether they accept it or not. You goofed up. Sh!t happens. If you delved further into the said argument, particularly between u and coogar, u will see that u were implying that Rooney played mainly on the wings for united n even said that he enjoyed it(playing on the wings). The other day u said Rooney played as a number 10 during the 2011/12 season before Rooney himself cleared the air. EOD

parrotibaba:
so u r now changing post! Quote where I said Rooney played as a striker in his first two seasons at united? After singing "Wayne Rooney was mainly a winger at united" u r now singing "he is mainly a number 10 for united"







Ukwu!!!!

elampiro:


You don't know what you are saying. The argument is from pages 1387. People can go back to read.

You are the only one who misunderstood it. Let me tell you, I have been here since March/April 2013, no one here has ever misunderstood me on where I said Rooney played mainly in his club career. The argument dates back prior to your discovery of this thread.

elampiro:


You know the argument is not about whether Rooney is classical number 10 or not.

The coach determines if a player is to play as an Attacking midfielder, a second/support striker or as a co-striker. However, an AM and an SS are called number 10 in football and there is no much difference between them.

Rooney has operated mostly as an AM and SS for club and country. Even recently Rooney played as an AM behind Van Persie under SAF and Moyes. He also did behind Falcao and Van Persie under Gaal.

In National team recently he played as An AM behind Sturridge, Welbeck and Defoe.

These are very recent and still fresh in our memories.

elampiro:


You don't know what you are saying. The argument is from page 1388. People can go back to read.

You are the only one who misunderstood it. Let me tell you, I have been here since March/April 2013, no one here has ever misunderstood me on where I said Rooney played mainly in his club career. The argument dates back prior to your discovery of this thread.

airmark:


As usual poor Home and away apologetic. So Juan mata, Damian, Schneiderlin, Luke shaw and smalling who played better than your scam Depay, all have houses close to Liberty stadium in Swansea? Is n't it ludicrous that your new Cristiano ronaldo was n't in top 3 united performers of the day against a team that has n't gone to UCL (in your voice )? You are a fvcktard. Dolt, below is the link for you to check its realness and acceptability.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2015-2016/epl.html/swansea-vs-man-utd

tess1:

What i have said is that he has majorly played as a striker in two striker formation which will always give him an opportunity to score goals.
That's also why i said that the all the goals he has scored in this qualifying has been as a striker.

coogar:


you are a consummate retard!
so you are using the opinion of other people to tell me who did well in a particular game?
are you out of your mind? what statistical evidence was used to come up with the useless ratings you went to dig out? this is why it's tedious to even engage in any verbal exchange with you. you lack the intellectual standing to quote me on football matters. coogar might need to get a restraining order against you on a permanent basis. i am yet to see a more brainless human being on this forum.

funlord:

SKIDmark don vex my guy! Lmfao!

tess1:

The bolded is exactly what i am saying. Rooney isn't a classic number 10 or a midfielder but a striker and he's playing that position because of his link up play and striking instinct. He'll always have a fair share of goals as a striker in that position. It is always a tactical advantage to the team because they will be playing as two strikers whether one is ahead or on level in tactics formation(442/4411) which has always been peculiar to England national team.
This is unlike the classic number 10 (trequartista) who will