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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 4:45pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Edwin Van der Saar ?? Peter Schmeichel?? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 4:48pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Ps ; Dayo.. By your Boathong definition of "worldclass" (dominating important games), why haven't you rated Gerrard as one of the best players we have seen in the last 10 years?? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 4:51pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Dadehmola:Bayern thread please |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:53pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Dadehmola: VDS had poor spells Started with promise well above average in Ajax. Went full reetard in Juve and Fulham. Had good stints in Man utd especially around 2009-2010 and his weakness for shots on his Left hand side. Still had the experience to make it work in Man utd. It can be argued that he might not have world class talent but his calmness and experience made him at least a very good keeper e.g Jens Lehmann If most mention the top 5 keepers of the past 20yrs VDS might be omitted in many evaluations |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:55pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Dadehmola: because Gerard is an above average player. Answer this: Whats Gerard's best position on the field? Important games Gerard has messed up are almost as many if not more than the ones he excelled in. 3 world cups, 3 Euro cups and Gerrard can hardly point to a single top game he dominated 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 5:00pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter: I'd rather we focus on his exploits as a man united player... Within the span of 2005/2006 - 2010, he would easily fit into any list of top 3 (or even top 2 ) goalkeepers in the world.. raumdeuter: I'd wager against that.. Do you have any list like that?? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 5:06pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter: I knew you were gonna shift the goalpost but I didn't expect to see the bolded part.. In recent times,(bar zidane in 2002),how many midfielders have we seen beast a UCL final the way Stevie did in 2005?? I don't even need I remind you about how difficult the UCL was (in that period) 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:27pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Robben was definitely world class. He went from Chelsea straight to Madrid. Desailly was a key member of World Cup winning french sqaud when he signed for us. And then went on to win the Euros as well. Mutu was worldclass at Chelsea...He was at the zenith of his career when he got done for using fishscale. Drogba was a worldclass striker bro. Hazard is a world class player today too. Take it or leave it. I wont argue. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 5:29pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
What's the lineup for tonight? And can we just assume that we are into the next round? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 5:31pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Gerrard,Vidic,Terry,Makelele(of Chelsea),Hazard, Carvalho and DROGBA aren't world class but of course Boateng,Lewy,Bastian and Ribery are World class..... 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:31pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Dadehmola: in the past 20yrs i would pick Kahn, Buffon, Neuer, Cech and Casillas While at Man utd he was solid but his weaknesses were still there which I listed. He was just like Lehmann A solid keeper 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 5:34pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
FBS:Its an away game ,anything can happen |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 5:36pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Neuer ?? Park well oga... How many years e don take shine?? Assuming you even put Schmeichel in his place, e for better small. Again, In an argument like this (on a Chelsea thread), it's easy for you to include Cech Wether you like it or not, VDS was a worldclass goalie at united. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:41pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Nihilist: Robbens best was at Bayern not at Chelsea at Chelsea he was just a precocious youth. Dessaily at Chelsea was a shadow of the original AC Milan Desailly he came to Chelsea at 30yrs which is understandable Mutu can never be called a world class player. How can a striker who scored 8 goals in 35 games be called World class Drogba had world class spells and very mediocre spells. Hazard is a good player not world class |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:41pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Mourinholic: Allianz arena won't forget Drogba's worldclass Penality there in a hurry 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:44pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Dadehmola: you think I send Chelsea fans that much to include Cech? Cech is world class anyday and easily the best keeper In England for the past 15yrs Neuer has been the best keeper for the past 4-5yrs. 4-5yrs out of a 20yr range is about a quarter 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:45pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter: The fact that they weren't at their best doesn't make them any less worldclass at those points in time. Anyway my enquiry was asking what world class players have actually played for chelsea at anytime... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:46pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Nihilist: Anyone can score a penalty. Ronaldo missed on the same day Fat Anderson, Kalou and Belleti scored 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 5:47pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Nihilist:Its hilarious... His criterion for judging players is their performance on big stages,then to say Drogba isn't world class?? M confused mehn 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:48pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Nihilist: How was Mutu world class at chelsea? Weah Ballack Sheva are examples of world class players who played at Chelsea just not world class at Chelsea |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:50pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Mourinholic: Do you understand English? if you do whats my opinion about Drogba? Go and read the below and try to understand what it means or just stick to liking posts "Drogba had world class spells and very mediocre spells" |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 6:08pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Like i said earlier, The focus is on VDS's time at man united. During this period, his individual achievments surpassed that of Cech raumdeuter: If anything, Neuer's exploits at the last worldcup would account for atleast 50% of whatever status he has today. For me, this time frame is too recent |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:15pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Before 2014 World cup Neuer was already the best keeper in Europe. He was UEFA keeper of the year 2013. he was world best keeper of 2013 All these before the world cup What were the individual achievement of VDS over cech |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 6:17pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter:is Boateng world class? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:18pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
PietroRico: Boateng is close to world class and at the rate he is going he would soon be World class |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 6:24pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter: 2013 na 2 years ago. With the elongated careers of the afforementioned goalies (and goalies generally) , its still a bit too early for Neuer to be mentioned in their set. He still has atleast 4 -5 more years to maintain his status as a worldclass goalie - let's see if he would be successful or we see if he ends up at Monaco or Zenit St Petersburg in 2 years time. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 6:26pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Nihilist: I won't necessarily have regarded Mutu as world class at the time he arrived at Chelsea. I would have called him a Suarez-like success in the Dutch league. Suarez himself would not have been called World Class at the time he arrived at Liverpool. I agree with Dayo also that Robben would not have been World Class at his time at Chelsea. I agree with you on the others. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 6:28pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter:lol... I asked a simple yes/no question, why the local story? Boateng vs vidic nko? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by parrotibaba(m): 6:44pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter:Peter Schmeichel should definitely be on ur list |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:44pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
PietroRico:To help you understand better. I cant always depend on people so I have to explain Vidic's best was better than current Boateng |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:51pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
nateevs: In my opinion, Robben was definitely worldclass at Chelsea. His talent was never in doubt...only his ability to stay fit. He went from Chelsea's 1st team to Madrid's 1st team after winning 2 EPL titles in England and won the La Liga in his 1st season at Madrid. You can't just walk into Madrid's 1st team if you are not World Class |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 6:52pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
Chelsea team to play Walsall: Begovic, Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry (c), Baba Rahman, Ramires, Mikel, Remy, Loftus-Cheek, Kenedy, Falcao. |
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