Just came back to give an advice, Runzlord, if You so much want to listen to Real Hip Hop from Nigerian Artists, I would advice You search underground, that's where You get Dopè Hip Hop, forget about Mainstream.

Search for Hennesy Artistry 2015, team 1-6 all of the Artists, all Dopè, Blaqbones, Toosleek, DarkPoet, Eclipse, Ozone etc, except Illbliss tho.

KINGOFJAPAN:
lol I'll continue to "full" myself... Best universities in africa my ass

This got Me ROTF

LeSudAfricaine:
Nah, Naija doesnt have the best rappers, sorry, that honour belongs to South Africa, Proverb, Reason, Ben Sharpa, Golden Shovel etc some of the dopest rappers on the continent

Nigeria has the best rappers in Africa even tho most are not doing pure hiphop (which is a good thing IMO)
They're many upcoming rappers who will floor those names you mentioned if they are given the chance
There is also more variety of rap styles (local lang, english, pigeon) than most other african countries

runzlord:
Happy independence everyone.

So nigeria has many good rappers infact we are number 1 in africa, punchlines, wordplay, metaphors, flow, we gat them all, but there a clear difference between Hip-hop and a song you just rap on. Many rappers think if you rap on the song it becomes Hip-Hop, NO! For example Pit Bull is an american rapper but his genre of music is Pop. Some Nigerians have even created the name Afro-Hip-Hop whereas I don't think there is anything like that, is either you make afro pop or you make hip-hop, but must nigerian rapper especially now a days make and rap on afro pop more, the are all looking for party bangers mean while as a Rapper that makes hip-hop Party songs should be out of your way. I'm not saying is bad to do Afro Pop, I mean if you have the skills to do them, while not? But do not sacrifice Hip-hop because of it or rather just sing on them like other afro pop artist, after all the biggest afro pop songs are sang on. But my honest advice no nigerian rappers is if you doing hip-hop please focus on it alone, because if you try your hands on afro beat you would never make bigger songs than even skales(which in my opinion is an afro beat artist that can do some rhyming).

You Think Nigerians don't like hip-hop? That's the lie they tell every artist, infact majority of nigerians listen to hip-hop when its good, yes majority. You can try this little survey and ask people on you BBM/Whatsapp list which genre they listen to and you would see the results. So if they listen to hip-hop it means you can make hit songs ot of hip-hop, yes you can. Bad Belle was a hit song, but sadly the only Hip-hop hit song that came out from nigeria within the last 2-3 years, not because other hip-hop songs could not make it, but because they were no other hip-hop songs, sadly even MI gave more afro pop on his album and I'm sure he would be surprise that it was the hip-hop track that turned out to be the Biggest track on the Album.
King-Kong was close to what should hav been called a Hit song, but the song did not really hit like that. Yung 6ix - Doinz, hotyce - Kilofoshi, Ill -bliss - Bank alert, phyno - asai amongst others, as you can see these songs where popular to some extent, but did not really hit that mark, the reason is because all these songs where done by different nigeria rappers who once in a while. Their head correct small say make them make hip-hop, they lack consistency and in seconds would jump back to afro beat, now imagine aall these songs listed above was droped by one person..... All would had been hit songs, and it is possible for a rapper to sit down and make good hip-hop sounds like this continuously, but they just won't.

Even davido did an Hip-Hop song(fans mi) and it was bigger
than all nigerian rappers song. Forget meek mill, its not today nigerian started featuring american artist, some of they songs never became hit song.

And some times they will and shoot no video for it, then shoot video for their afro pop song? Example MI(sadly, its very sad to me cos I took him as a role model and my best rapper) shoot the video(which was poor BTW) for Bullion Van was NO NO NO, I mean there is Millionaire champagne, there is human being, their is Third Mainland Bridge, their is Back from the future, why shoot video(promote) for Bullion Van?

But the case is different in the rest of africa, and for years upon years the biggest songs in africa are Hip-Hop songs, south africa is a county where their top ten chart is most times 100% Hip-Hop this is something nigeria rappers can't do for only God knows why....

Stanley enow. Cameroon rapper/Hip-Hop artist drop an album and made charts 3 times and still counting with hip-hop songs 1. Njama njama cow ft sarkodie 2. King Kong ft dj neptune 3. Work hard. And he is a very poor rapper with terrible voice. You can imagine. They play his songs here in nigeria more than nigerian hip hop songs.

Caspper Nyovest. Even here in nigeria everbody knew and could sing shebeleza doc doc shebeleza, all the way from south africa, pack channel o awards like say na water, even my aunty where no no anything was singing shebeleza after watching the awards, MAMA best Hip-Hop artist award winner, droped an abulm and shot about 6 videos which peak charts simultaneously, all hip-hop. 1. Gusheshe 2. Doc shebelaza 3. Doc shebelaza remix ft talib kweli 4. I hope you bought it 5. Phumakim 6. Ghetto 7. Tsilib , all sick Hip-hop tacks, One Abulm! Why Naija no fit do this kind thing ehn? He is a very good rapper no doubts, but nigeria have very good rappers too! Why can't we win that MAMAs?

Sarkodie. This one una know. He still does real hip-hop upon his success unlike some people like MI

A.K.A. The guy came to Nigeria and was felling like the biggest star in the country, na Hip-hop bring am to that level o! His song "all eyes on me" was the opening song performed at the MAMAs and later grabed an award, songs like Congratulations, Run Jozi, where even big songs here in Nigeria.

So Nigeria Rappers, I Take God Beg una, I'm part of you guys too, Let us Dedicate our time and Money And effort, amd make good hip-hop songs! Leave afro beat for afro beat artist! They won't leave afro beat and do hip-hop! Abeg! Ehn!

Producers too have a role to play. Only few producers now like Kid Konnect actually make time out to create hip-hop, even MI is now using Sarz on shekpe. Kid konnect had to make beats and force feature rappers to rap on them. Songs like shalala air, Badagry, 4 horse men, Dictator Rap. All good Hip-Hop songs.

Me, I'm just saying my mind.
I love Hip-Hop and its Sad to see my country does not make them so I've too look out side to find them.
Thanks.

Rap music is indegenous to African americans
For you a local artist to impact on your locality with a foriegn style of music you need to add your own local spin to it (both in words and in sound)
Case in point the corrent reigning Patwa (reggae/dancehall) artists in the country (Patoranking, Cynthia Morgan, Burna etc) do not speak pure Patwa or do not use pure Patwa sound but are impacting more than those before them (with exception to the 80's/90's reggae artists) cause of their ability to add some local twist to the original sound and language
You do the music 4 the people not 4 yourself or your friends
You have something to offer
The people have what they like/want
Find a point where what you offer meets with what the people like/want and deliver your goods

AbuMikey:
Just came back to give an advice, Runzlord, if You so much want to listen to Real Hip Hop from Nigerian Artists, I would advice You search underground, that's where You get Dopè Hip Hop, forget about Mainstream.

Search for Hennesy Artistry 2015, team 1-6 all of the Artists, all Dopè, Blaqbones, Toosleek, DarkPoet, Eclipse, Ozone etc, except Illbliss tho.

Yh! Thru

theDEVILisHERE:


Rap music is indegenous to African americans
For you a local artist to impact on your locality with a foriegn style of music you need to add your own local spin to it (both in words and in sound)
Case in point the corrent reigning Patwa (reggae/dancehall) artists in the country (Patoranking, Cynthia Morgan, Burna etc) do not speak pure Patwa or do not use pure Patwa sound but are impacting more than those before them (with exception to the 80's/90's reggae artists) cause of their ability to add some local twist to the original sound and language
You do the music 4 the people not 4 yourself or your friends
You have something to offer
The people have what they like/want
Find a point where what you offer meets with what the people like/want and deliver your goods

I agree, but that does not mean you should change the entire genre of music, see I like this song "yaylow ft lord v - hustle" its hip-hop even if they raped completely in pidgin! Listen to "shalala air by kid konnect" Sounds so african even with a yoruba verse but yet hip-hop.

Even the south africans I'm praising its only AKA and Da.l.e.s. Or maybe reason that I know rap in pure english the rest add zulu or rap in full zulu even cassper nyovest.

Sarkodie too raps in his local dialect.

Only phyno does hip-hop in his own songs, I was only disappointed with "o-set"
Downloaded reminisce abulm, out of how many songs? Only local rappers and baba hafusa made sense. The rest......rubbish.

theDEVILisHERE:


Nigeria has the best rappers in Africa even tho most are not doing pure hiphop (which is a good thing IMO)
They're many upcoming rappers who will floor those names you mentioned if they are given the chance
There is also more variety of rap styles (local lang, english, pigeon) than most other african countries

Best rappers...yes
But not hip-hop is a BAD thing

runzlord:

Best rappers...yes
But not hip-hop is a BAD thing

No it is not a bad thing
It is actually what an artist is surposed to do
Can you sing pop music exactly like Madonna, lady gaga or Prince as a Nigerian/African artiste and expect people to take you seriously
Why then should hiphop be different

LeSudAfricaine:
Nah, Naija doesnt have the best rappers, sorry, that honour belongs to South Africa, Proverb, Reason, Ben Sharpa, Golden Shovel etc some of the dopest rappers on the continent

Qwesta, kid x, KO, AKA, Cassper nyovest, Solo, Tumi, Ginger Trill, okamakookat, ricky rick, Blacklez.....etc

If it comes to creativity and Hipo-Hop I give it to SA

But na only punchlines naija sabi. Smh.

runzlord:


I agree, but that does not mean you should change the entire genre of music, see I like this song "yaylow ft lord v - hustle" its hip-hop even if they raped completely in pidgin! Listen to "shalala air by kid konnect" Sounds so african even with a yoruba verse but yet hip-hop.

Even the south africans I'm praising its only AKA and Da.l.e.s. Or maybe reason that I know rap in pure english the rest add zulu or rap in full zulu even cassper nyovest.

Sarkodie too raps in his local dialect.

Only phyno does hip-hop in his own songs, I was only disappointed with "o-set"
Downloaded reminisce abulm, out of how many songs? Only local rappers and baba hafusa made sense. The rest......rubbish.

You need to broaden your horiezm when it comes to music
You thinking process is too 1 dimentional
You have to first look at music 4 what it is first of all before you now understand why people make certain type of music

KINGOFJAPAN:
lol I'll continue to "full" myself... Best universities in africa my ass

But whether you like it or not, they are!

theDEVILisHERE:

You need to broaden your horiezm when it comes to music You thinking process is too 1 dimentional

Please explain, what you mean.... I don't understand

theDEVILisHERE:


No it is not a bad thing
It is actually what an artist is surposed to do
Can you sing pop music exactly like Madonna, lady gaga or Prince as a Nigerian/African artiste and expect people to take you seriously
Why then should hiphop be different

Dude! Other artist did it and where bigger than madonna, lady gaga, or prince, being a nigerian does not make your head half of what they have, darey/Bez/timi dakolo does r'n'b just like anyone in the world would do, and they are well doing.

Even if we can't do hip-hop like jay-z or kendrick lamar, sarkodie na ghana here he dey o! He does hip-hop and does it well.

runzlord:

Please explain, what you mean.... I don't understand

You thinking and seeing things through the aspect of the so called "hiphop" alone without you seeing the bigger picture about music in general and as it applies to any given society
I gave you you an example with pop music
And I ask
Why should hiphop be different

theDEVILisHERE:


You thinking and seeing things through the aspect of the so called "hiphop" alone without you seeing the bigger picture about music in general and as it applies to any given society
I gave you you an example with pop music
And I ask
Why should hiphop be different

Scroll up, I answered with r'n'b!

runzlord:

Dude! Other artist did it and where bigger than madonna, lady gaga, or prince, being a nigerian does not make your head half of what they have, darey/Bez/timi dakolo does r'n'b just like anyone in the world would do, and they are well doing.

Even if we can't do hip-hop like jay-z or kendrick lamar, sarkodie na ghana here he dey o! He does hip-hop and does it well.

If your doing music as an artist you cater 4 your local audience first before you think of others
Those artist you mentioned are not doing very well if not they will be toping the charts
America is not the only country that do music
Try listening to the different music and their various styles/ genres done in other countries (asia, europe etc) more often and you will understand what I mean

theDEVILisHERE:


If your doing music as an artist you cater 4 your local audience first before you think of others
Those artist you mentioned are not doing very well if not they will be toping the charts
America is not the only country that do music
Try listening to the different music and their various styles/ genres done in other countries (asia, europe etc) more often and you will understand what I mean

I don't still see your piont! "Not the girl", was once number 1 on chart, same as "pray for me" is on charts too, chobams ft bez had several nominations in the recently announced headies award nominations, same as well as timi dakolo - wish me well, MI was number 1 on chart with - Bad Belle(hip - hop).

In africa charts, real Hip-hop songs are always number one, except now that a song (can't remb the name but vannesa mdee was featured in it) is number 1 and the song is very nice, followed by stanley enow - work hard (real hip-hop) at number 2!

Its about making good sounds and top class music no matter the genre, once its good, people would listen, you don't have to make songs to please them(your local people), make good songs and they would like it! After all these same local people listen to international songs!

So if our rapper can make good hip-hop they would sell! Its not rocket science!

runzlord:

I don't still see your piont! "Not the girl", was once number 1 on chart, same as "pray for me" is on charts too, chobams ft bez had several nominations in the recently announced headies award nominations, same as well as timi dakolo - wish me well, MI was number 1 on chart with - Bad Belle(hip - hop).

In africa charts, real Hip-hop songs are always number one, except now that a song (can't remb the name but vannesa mdee was featured in it) is number 1 and the song is very nice, followed by stanley enow - work hard (real hip-hop) at number 2!

Its about making good sounds and top class music no matter the genre, once its good, people would listen, you don't have to make songs to please them(your local people), make good songs and they would like it! After all these same local people listen to international songs!

So if our rapper can make good hip-hop they would sell! Its not rocket science!

My point is making songs purely on this foriegn sounds is not sustainable in this part of the world
1 or 2 songs that are purely on those genres will be fine
But to do majorly songs that are purely on those genres will not work out in your favour
The artist themselves have recognised this
I think if the hardcore fans of this genres really want more of the songs they like they should form some sort of union, organise themselves and raise funds for the artists to deliver some of those songs to them

theDEVILisHERE:


My point is making songs purely on this foriegn sounds is not sustainable in this part of the world
1 or 2 songs that are purely on those genres will be fine
But to do majorly songs that are purely on those genres will not work out in your favour
The artist themselves have recognised this
I think if the hardcore fans of this genres really want more of the songs they like they should form some sort of union, organise themselves and raise funds for the artists to deliver some of those songs to them

Very funny, nigeria rappers can die for all I care! And let other african rappers dust them like they don't exist! Me I will continue to be a SA music fan even if I don't understand zulu.

runzlord:

Very funny, nigeria rappers can die for all I care! And let other african rappers dust them like they don't exist! Me I will continue to be a SA music fan even if I don't understand zulu.

Don't hate the player
Hate the game
Like I said
You guys place them on a contract for your songs
They will definately deliver
Remember they need to eat
Hardcore music could eventually usher you into hardcore hunger (you can ask mode 9)

theDEVILisHERE:


Don't hate the player
Hate the game
Like I said
You guys place them on a contract for your songs
They will definately deliver
Remember they need to eat
Hardcore music could eventually usher you into hardcore hunger (you can ask mode 9)

They are not doing it well! If they give their time and do it well they would eat! Even mode 9 is not doing it well! Going hard core is not making hip-hop you can make Good hip-hop with terrible lines and voice and still sell and win awards, ask Stanley enow!

runzlord:


I agree, but that does not mean you should change the entire genre of music, see I like this song "yaylow ft lord v - hustle" its hip-hop even if they raped completely in pidgin! Listen to "shalala air by kid konnect" Sounds so african even with a yoruba verse but yet hip-hop.

Even the south africans I'm praising its only AKA and Da.l.e.s. Or maybe reason that I know rap in pure english the rest add zulu or rap in full zulu even cassper nyovest.

Sarkodie too raps in his local dialect.

Only phyno does hip-hop in his own songs, I was only disappointed with "o-set"
Downloaded reminisce abulm, out of how many songs? Only local rappers and baba hafusa made sense. The rest......rubbish.

**Double FacePalm**


*Unfollows thread.*

AbuMikey:


**Double FacePalm**

*Unfollows thread.*

Why? What other songs sounded hip-hop?

runzlord:

They are not doing it well! If they give their time and do it well they would eat! Even mode 9 is not doing it well! Going hard core is not making hip-hop you can make Good hip-hop with terrible lines and voice and still sell and win awards, ask Stanley enow!

Stanley enow cannot sell if he's a Nigerian artiste doing the kind of music he's doing now
Even Sark, Aka, Casper will struggle with their style in Nigeria
Nigerians mostly accept such musci when done by foriengner

theDEVILisHERE:


Stanley enow cannot sell if he's a Nigerian artiste doing the kind of music he's doing now
Even Sark, Aka, Casper will struggle with their style in Nigeria
Nigerians mostly accept such musci when done by foriengner

Is that something to be happy about?

runzlord:

Is that something to be happy about?

Happy or not
It doesn't change anything
Keep in mind
Some Americans could like some african genre of music eg: high life, afro beats, juju, soca etc but they will not take any American artist seriously if they focus on doing PURELY that type of music
It is what it is

KINGOFJAPAN:
lol I'll continue to "full" myself... Best universities in africa my ass

'it is what it is, denying it won't change facts

theDEVILisHERE:


Happy or not
It doesn't change anything
Keep in mind
Some Americans could like some african genre of music eg: high life, afro beats, juju, soca etc but they will not take any American artist seriously if they focus on doing PURELY that type of music
It is what it is

But they would take canadians serious?
So its making sense to you.

See infact forget.

runzlord:

But they would take canadians serious?
So its making sense to you.

See infact forget.

Who knows
They probably could
Afterall they accepted a white Australian girl (Igzy) as a rapper

theDEVILisHERE:


Who knows
They probably could
Afterall they accepted a white Australian girl (Igzy) as a rapper

They accepted Nigerian boy....Jidenna

Again I say, it about the quality of music you do, no matter where you stay or what genre of music you make, once you make good music you would be accepted. Nigeria Rappers don't make good Hip-Hop.

runzlord:

They accepted Nigerian boy....Jidenna

Again I say, it about the quality of music you do, no matter where you stay or what genre of music you make, once you make good music you would be accepted. Nigeria Rappers don't make good Hip-Hop.

I think to some extent we've both made our point
Let's not go round in circles

runzlord:

Qwesta, kid x, KO, AKA, Cassper nyovest, Solo, Tumi, Ginger Trill, okamakookat, ricky rick, Blacklez.....etc

If it comes to creativity and Hipo-Hop I give it to SA

But na only punchlines naija sabi. Smh.

Just how do you differentiate between creativity and punchlines? I can mention a lot of SA mc's who throw punchlines