makavele:


No he wasn;t and i mean it . . God added two molecules of ammonium chloride with 3 molecules of hydrogen tetraoxosulphate six acid . .
and satan mixed it with zinc oxide and alas,, Jesus became a living being .
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hahahahah

LinuxMint:


hahaha

alexis:
For the Jehovah witnesses, I have a question:

1. Was Jesus resurrected as a spirit or as a human with a body?

Kennitrust:
if u don't sale your magazine, why then do they always demand for a "stipend" to make for each magazine u required?

joxxy01:
may be u should see mathew 1:23

mitchyy:
Jehovah only grants understanding to those who earnestly seek it. So no matter how much witnesses try to explain, as long as you have made your heart unreceptive, we'll all just be wasting our time.

There are a lot of translations and scholars that have a contrary view, they view and translated part of that verse to "the word was a god". These translations goes along with the fact that jesus is not the father and the father is God Almighty.

There are many manuscripts , listing them here will derail the thread. Pls( and I believe you are sincere in ur questions) put 1 john 5:7 on a search engine and see the various commentary, translations and views on that verse. Once you have done that, pls quote me and let's discuss.

Good Bro, the only God that holds that position is not jesus.
Even the "worship" that you say jesus commands was given to him by God.
Even the authority given to jesus to judge and forgives sin was given to him by God.
God, his father is superior to him!

Thomas, realising that it was really jesus made that exclamation.(that exclamation has been explained on these thread) But jesus had ealier told mary to tell them that he has not ascended to his God, which is also thomas' God.

And he is always talking to himself abi, taking things from himself to do things right?

lordtim001:
That was really mean...Have you ever expressed your desire not to welcome them in and they force you to?I guess you are one of the "pretenders" who behave as if they are really into them...I pity you!

Jessicha:


its a bitter truth , just swallow it . Jesus have a God he is subjected to

" but when all things have been subjected to him, then the son himself will also subject himself to the one who subject all things to him " 1 cor 15:28

I.e " he hands over the kingdom to HIS GOD ND FATHER" 1 Cor 15: 24 .

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Rev 1:8 is Jehovah God .

Verse 4,5 differentiate Jehovah Almighty GOD from Jesus the faithful and true witness .

DebbyChris:
Jesus is the only way to the father(God) if u don't believe in him u are already condemn. No matter ur door to door preaching, not believing in Jesus has made that ur great art of preaching useless.

alexis:
dolphinheart

You are not being honest here, which other translation apart from NWT? If he doubt, go to the earliest sources or even the earliest manuscripts to confirm for yourself. The problem then becomes, why don't JW translate other parts of the Bible to be the same word. The New World Translation of the JW says: "And the Word was a god" contrary to all other translations I have ever seen. Can you list the other translations apart from New World Translation please. Your officials say that this translation is justified because in the original Greek the word "God" is without the article. It is without the article but it is clear that this is not their real reason because verses 6, 12 and 13 of the same first chapter of John contain similar usages of the word 'God", all without the article. You guys translated all of these correctly with a capital "G" and without inserting "a". The only instances I have found in which you guys translate "God" with a small "g" are when "God" refers to Christ. It is certainly not done consistently whenever the Greek word for "God" lacks the article. (See the examples in John 3:21, 8:54, 9:16, 9:33). In the case of John 1:1-3, to avoid a translation that correctly identifies Christ as God, the New World Translation ends up attributing the creation of all things to "a god"

List the ones that changed or inserted the additional comments like you claimed. I have researched most of these manuscripts as I used to be a Muslim and very interested in what you are saying.

You are missing what I am saying. Only God can forgive sins and only God can be worshiped. Both of these characteristics belong to Jesus as well. Jesus can forgive sins, that is why we can give him such a title as God. Only Jesus demanded worship just as God.

So, it was Jesus that said - "My Lord and My God". Why are you being dishonest? Jesus called himself my Lord and my God. Is that what the verse said? Cha

In the Bible, who is addressed as the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end? Is that Jehovah or Jesus?

joseph1832:
I find the number 7 on that list a gross slap! How can one not pledge his/her allegiance to his/her country? If you ask me, I believe the JW should come together and get a country of their own, saying they don't salute the flag or pledge allegiance to their country is showing gross disrespect!.

andyanders:


This is a capital lie. You guys sell the products and you drink alcohol like mineral. Fvck more than any other religion. You guys love to wanna want people to read your magazine, but you dear not wanna read other churches that give out their magazines to you.

You guys hate people who do not practice your doctrine but can fvck hell out of them.

I have been to your place of worship and noticed that you do not wanna pray when people ask you to pray before you discuss your religion with them.

You people ONLY believe that ONLY you guys worship the living God.

Op, just find seat and sit down.

Esdb3:

So the rich man and lazarus story is fake abi?

Mpanyi:


Your question didn't make sense as Jesus have already told us about hell and heaven at many instances. He even gave a parable that had to do with Abraham and Lazarus. Don't tell is just parable as you know Jesus does not say what is not obtainable

Sanfranka:
i pity u

Esdb3:


That is just some dumb as shii there my nigga. After so many statements like "and cast them into the lake that burns forever"

All you used to debunk hell was a single verse by a man who was on an empty island and could have been delirious from the torment. The statement that 'hell was thrown into the lake of fire"

Which proves ur stupidity because hell was said to be thrown into a fire not hell fire into a fire.

And don't call me shitty because u made a distinction btwn hell and hell fire.

makavele:


The word was a god . . simply means he was a god but then another God who is superior exist
e.g Ambode is god to Lagos as governor, but Buhari is a bigger god as president
You already made the salient points in your write up buy you are refraining from drawing a logical conclusion.

Let me test your sincerity
1 Corinthians 15:27,28 has this to say:
For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him,

[it is manifest that he is excepted]

, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Notice the word in bracket clearly says that God is not among the things subjected to Jesus.
This help any sincere person appreciate this point if you were not previously aware
I hope this helps without need for arguments about words which the witnesses avoid.
Jesus employed the same method when he asked for a coin to disprove an argument.

Am sure many nairalander will have continued to argue with Jesus after such incontrovertible prove.
Your advice to think deeply seems to have another meaning or do you mean think illogically?
The word was God . .. simply means he was God , but then another God who is superior exists
e.g Ambode is god to Lagos as governor, but Buhari is a bigger god as president

The word is GOd . . means the word is God presently, and no other God exists
e.g Ambode is God as govenor . . the word is meaning presently, so it means presntly Ambode is God supreme

Brother, please, think it well and see the differences . . .

Ambode is God (which means he is one and only God) . . . is different from Ambode is a God , (which means he is just one of many others who have Godlike powers)

Think deeply sir

Skymiyke:
I was actually waiting for someone to bring up d ish of prayer n blood transfusion!To tell u d truth,i still can't undastand why esp the prayer part!When the knock on ur door and u Welcme dem in and u ask dem to start wit a wrd of prayer,d rada leave dan do d prayer!Speaking from experience!

Nnaabros:

THIS IS COMMON CAUSE OF CONTROVERSY. KINDLY FIND HEREB BRIEF EXPLANATION. FOR DETAILS, PLEASE SPEAK WITH A WITNESS.

Christians are commanded to ‘abstain from blood’

Acts 15:28, 29: “The holy spirit and we ourselves [the governing body of the Christian congregation] have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled [or, killed without draining their blood] and from fornication. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” (There the eating of blood is equated with idolatry and fornication, things that we should not want to engage in.)

Does the Bible’s prohibition include human blood?

Yes, and early Christians understood it that way. Acts 15:29 says to “keep abstaining from . . . blood.” It does not say merely to abstain from animal blood. (Compare Leviticus 17:10, which prohibited eating “any sort of blood.”) Tertullian (who wrote in defense of the beliefs of early Christians) stated: “The interdict upon ‘blood’ we shall understand to be (an interdict) much more upon human blood.”—The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. IV, p. 86.

Is a transfusion really the same as eating blood?

In a hospital, when a patient cannot eat through his mouth, he is fed intravenously. Now, would a person who never put blood into his mouth but who accepted blood by transfusion really be obeying the command to “keep abstaining from . . . blood”? (Acts 15:29) To use a comparison, consider a man who is told by the doctor that he must abstain from alcohol. Would he be obedient if he quit drinking alcohol but had it put directly into his veins?

In the case of a patient that refuses blood, are there any alternative treatments?

Often simple saline solution, Ringer’s solution, and dextran can be used as plasma volume expanders, and these are available in nearly all modern hospitals. Actually, the risks that go with use of blood transfusions are avoided by using these substances. The Canadian Anaesthetists’ Society Journal (January 1975, p. 12) says: “The risks of blood transfusion are the advantages of plasma substitutes: avoidance of bacterial or viral infection, transfusion reactions and Rh sensitization.” Jehovah’s Witnesses have no religious objection to the use of nonblood plasma expanders.

Jehovah’s Witnesses actually benefit from better medical treatment because they do not accept blood. A doctor writing in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology (June 1, 1968, p. 395) acknowledged: “There is no doubt that the situation where you [the surgeon] are operating without the possibility of transfusion tends to improve your surgery. You are a little bit more aggressive in clamping every bleeding vessel.”

All types of surgery can be performed successfully without blood transfusions. This includes open-heart operations, brain surgery, amputation of limbs, and total removal of cancerous organs. Writing in the New York State Journal of Medicine (October 15, 1972, p. 2527), Dr. Philip Roen said: “We have not hesitated to perform any and all indicated surgical procedures in the face of proscribed blood replacement.” Dr. Denton Cooley, at the Texas Heart Institute, said: “We became so impressed with the results [from using nonblood plasma expanders] on the Jehovah’s Witnesses that we started using the procedure on all our heart patients.” (The San Diego Union, December 27, 1970, p. A-10) “‘Bloodless’ open-heart surgery, originally developed for adult members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses sect because their religion forbids blood transfusions, now has been safely adapted for use in delicate cardiac procedures in infants and children.”—Cardiovascular News, February 1984, p. 5.

Charlesberry:
Kindly tell me how Jehovah witness was founded? And who did so and who is financing all your publication? Answer me and I will tell you more

ItsTime4me:
. Let me talk on the so-called failed predictions. It is true that JWs had had some failed expectations. But is that enough to discredit them? Proverbs 4:18 says that the path of the righteous one gets brighter and brighter. Even Jesus' trained apostles had some failed expectations (Acts 1:6,7; 1Cor 13:9-12). The bible shows that God enables his servants to understand his purpose in a progressive manner.(Daniel 12:8,9; 1Pet. 1:10-12). The bible also shows that there would be great increase in knowledge in the time of the end( Daniel 12: 4). You would agree that increased knowledge often requires adjustments in one's thinking and JWs are willing and humble to make such adjustments, which includes the long realization of the fact that no one knows the hour this world will end. I think it would be unfair to discredit them for some mistaken expectations, because for one thing, they have helped millions of people to come to appreciate so many bible truths, which of course I think you know some. Discrediting them is just like discredting a respected and knowledgeable professor just because he makes one or two blunders which he accepts as his wrong. What about other things he's been doing? Food for thought, right?