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Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by abatically(m): 8:07am On Nov 28, 2015
Homguy:
what who you rate the Italians and the British as regards reliability. You have always been skewed towards the Japanese esp Toyota. Its what you drive after all but Stop misinforming the public man!

Who am I? I am nobody, and this is not a matter of being biased. I'm talking from experience, real life usage. Those cars are beautiful, they are sweet to drive, but RELIABILITY IS NOT IN THEIR DICTIONARY. If u still dont agree then check consumer reports, at least they don't lie. Audi still got high reliability reviews but Mercedes Benz are not reliably. Would that stop me from getting one? Nope. Again like I said earlier, if u are rich enough to own a Mercedes Benz, then u dont worry about reliability.

Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by kkulaja(m): 8:25am On Nov 29, 2015
Talking from personal experience,MB is the most reliable brand of cars,mostly designed not to park u on D road,but will get home come what may,and their parts are designed to last longer,except there is another meaning of reliable,but if its same meaning as in the dictionary,then MB is designed for ruggedity and reliability.not beauty and luxury,and this is why most top shots go for the benz cos of its design to stand the test of time
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by kingreign(m): 9:27am On Nov 29, 2015
kkulaja:
Talking from personal experience,MB is the most reliable brand of cars,mostly designed not to park u on D road,but will get home come what may,and their parts are designed to last longer,except there is another meaning of reliable,but if its same meaning as in the dictionary,then MB is designed for ruggedity and reliability.not beauty and luxury,and this is why most top shots go for the benz cos of its design to stand the test of time

You're wrong, very wrong, absolutely wrong. MB is designed for beauty of finish and luxury. This comes at an expense of reliability.

Lemme give you a practical example of what reliability means.

I buy a car today (15 year old Tokumbo) but I don't service it, I don't follow normal periodic inspection, all the Xmas lights comes up on my car, I still don't care, everything starts falling off, I still don't care, yet, the car is driven for over 2-3years in this state before it starts giving problem.


That's Toyota for you. Old MB can do this, try this with new model MB, you'll cry blood.

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Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by abatically(m): 11:30am On Nov 29, 2015
kkulaja:
Talking from personal experience,MB is the most reliable brand of cars,mostly designed not to park u on D road,but will get home come what may,and their parts are designed to last longer,except there is another meaning of reliable,but if its same meaning as in the dictionary,then MB is designed for ruggedity and reliability.not beauty and luxury,and this is why most top shots go for the benz cos of its design to stand the test of time
U are either ignorant or don't know what u are saying. Or u are probably referring to the old regular Benz and v boot. mercedes benz are designed for beauty, speed and show off and that is why top dogs go for them. Try abusing a mercedes benz the way u would a toyota and then come back and tell us about reliability.
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by Nixon55(m): 1:13pm On Nov 29, 2015
kkulaja:
Talking from personal experience,MB is the most reliable brand of cars,mostly designed not to park u on D road,but will get home come what may,and their parts are designed to last longer,except there is another meaning of reliable,but if its same meaning as in the dictionary,then MB is designed for ruggedity and reliability.not beauty and luxury,and this is why most top shots go for the benz cos of its design to stand the test of time

When an item is reliable, it is bound to enjoy continued patronage from everyone. Toyota Camry being a best seller is not a Nigerian invention. it is a phenomenon that has its roots in the world's biggest auto market. The average person that buys a car just wants it to take him from point A to B with less hassle. He does not care about the 0-60 times or top speed of 200mph. A couple of people would care about that though but they don't count much. Do I like german cars? Yes of course. I drive an A6. But then I know my camry has been a lot more reliable than the A6.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/you-all-bought-so-many-camrys-that-toyota-is-again-no-1-in-the-world/

excerpt from caranddriver:

"Camry sales in the U.S. were up five percent, to 428,606. No other nontruck has been able to topple this vanilla sedan for the past 13 years, and with the 2015 refresh, that’s likely to be the case again (hey, you asked for it, you got it)"

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Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by kkulaja(m): 11:46pm On Nov 30, 2015
abatically:

U are either ignorant or don't know what u are saying. Or u are probably referring to the old regular Benz and v boot. mercedes benz are designed for beauty, speed and show off and that is why top dogs go for them. Try abusing a mercedes benz the way u would a toyota and then come back and tell us about reliability.

Welli have been driving the 2011 honda Accord since last wednesday and despte the car in perfect shape withh all round brand new tyres,I still feel tthe steering like a toy as is shakes unlike the benz,I have seen benz with many xmas lights on & keeps going,my friend would even sayaaand
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by abatically(m): 11:59pm On Nov 30, 2015
kkulaja:


Welli have been driving the 2011 honda Accord since last wednesday and despte the car in perfect shape withh all round brand new tyres,I still feel tthe steering like a toy as is shakes unlike the benz,I have seen benz with many xmas lights on & keeps going,my friend would even sayaaand

So in ur little mind u think Honda rolled out a car from factory with the steering shaking? And u seriously think the US government would let them sell that car to their citizens? Bros think. Go check the number of 2011 accords sold in the US, if it has its steering shaking they wouldn't sell even 100 units.

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Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by ShammahBarnabas(m): 1:33am On Dec 01, 2015
abatically:


Wrong. The Germans make beautiful, luxury, fast and expensive machines. But they are not known for being reliable. The thing is if u are rich enough to own a Mercedes Benz then reliability is the last thing u should think about.

What is more reliable than a German machine then?
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by kkulaja(m): 1:36am On Dec 01, 2015
abatically:

U are either ignorant or don't know what u are saying. Or u are probably referring to the old regular Benz and v boot. mercedes benz are designed for beauty, speed and show off and that is why top dogs go for them. Try abusing a mercedes benz the way u would a toyota and then come back and tell us about reliability.

Welli have been driving the 2011 honda Accord since last wednesday and despte the car in perfect shape withh all round brand new tyres,I still feel tthe steering like a toy as its shakes unlike the benz,I have seen benz with many xmas lights on & keeps going,my friend would even say all na story.his converted w203 used to display upto 16malfunction and him still dey rock am on
I drove a merc C class 98 model and,D trottle cable would not return,pressing so hard to the extreme dat I only pressed on brakes to get home.I believe if it were toyota or honda wit D way I drove the C class,I'm sure it might not start next day or engine would ve worn out & lost pressure.
My experience though
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by kkulaja(m): 1:44am On Dec 01, 2015
abatically:


So in ur little mind u think Honda rolled out a car from factory with the steering shaking? And u seriously think the US government would let them sell that car to their citizens? Bros think. Go check the number of 2011 accords sold in the US, if it has its steering shaking they wouldn't sell even 100 units.

When I say steering shaking,would not be obvious to someone used to driving a toyota or honda,only those used to merc will understand what I mean,its not like a fault,but cannot be compared to the stability of the benz wheels!gbam
Saw a red C350 with black wheels on the other lane from lekki to ajjah,admired it.later I saw it has turned and passed the Accord,I started to imagine how I could think of racing with that machine as some claimed they did .I know that machine and I dare not race with it driving honda even though the speed can,the stability is incomparable

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Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by abatically(m): 2:04am On Dec 01, 2015
kkulaja:


When I say steering shaking,would not be obvious to someone used to driving a toyota or honda,only those used to merc will understand what I mean,its not like a fault,but cannot be compared to the stability of the benz wheels!gbam
Saw a red C350 with black wheels on the other lane from lekki to ajjah,admired it.later I saw it has turned and passed the Accord,I started to imagine how I could think of racing with that machine as some claimed they did .I know that machine and I dare not race with it driving honda even though the speed can,the stability is incomparable

I will ask u a simple question and the way u respond would determine if I will continue this argument. Between a Mercedes Benz c350 and a Lamborghini aventador, which one do u think is more reliable? U seem to not know the difference between performance and reliability. High performance comes with sacrifice to reliability. U can't expect a FWD car to have the same stability at high speed with a RWD or AWD car.
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by nakoks(m): 6:38am On Dec 01, 2015
Interesting thread

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Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by kkulaja(m): 6:51am On Dec 01, 2015
abatically:


I will ask u a simple question and the way u respond would determine if I will continue this argument. Between a Mercedes Benz c350 and a Lamborghini aventador, which one do u think is more reliable? U seem to not know the difference between performance and reliability. High performance comes with sacrifice to reliability. U can't expect a FWD car to have the same stability at high speed with a RWD or AWD car.

I have not driven a lambourghini and never had a family or friend own one to talk about its reliability.
The bolded part has said it all.
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by eddy42k(m): 7:22am On Dec 01, 2015
Av had a race with the c300 with my 2005 solara 3.3v6 ..the solara is faster.

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Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by abatically(m): 7:50am On Dec 01, 2015
kkulaja:


I have not driven a lambourghini and never had a family or friend own one to talk about its reliability.
The bolded part has said it all.

Reliability and performance are 2 different things. Is that too difficult to understand?

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Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by kingreign(m): 8:15am On Dec 01, 2015
abatically:


Reliability and performance are 2 different things. Is that too difficult to understand?

ignore him. He doesnt know the difference between steering weight and shaky steering.
Folks erroneously think its till a steering is as heavy as a 911 tipper then its sporty and balanced.

My RX has a lighter steering than a W203, yet its AWD and its heavier than a W203 C class.
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by elite(m): 8:19pm On Dec 01, 2015
elusive2:
Having difficulties uploading pics. Will share as soon as possible.
Some pics if my new car...

Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by abatically(m): 8:39pm On Dec 01, 2015
elite:
Some pics if my new car...

Nice ride.

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Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by nurey(m): 7:32am On Dec 02, 2015
when are you allowing a TEST DRIVE?
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by king406(m): 3:34pm On Dec 02, 2015
elite:
Some pics if my new car...
smh and someone will still pick the honda sad
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by elite(m): 7:16pm On Dec 02, 2015
king406:
smh and someone will still pick the honda sad

Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by elite(m): 7:18pm On Dec 02, 2015
king406:
smh and someone will still pick the honda sad
grin

Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by king406(m): 7:33pm On Dec 02, 2015
elite:
grin
u are tempting me to post mine too oh grin
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by Inception(m): 7:50pm On Dec 02, 2015
[quote author=elite post=40623363] grin[/quote
Damn! Now thats sexy!
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by kkulaja(m): 8:06am On Dec 03, 2015
Nixon55:


When an item is reliable, it is bound to enjoy continued patronage from everyone. Toyota Camry being a best seller is not a Nigerian invention. it is a phenomenon that has its roots in the world's biggest auto market. The average person that buys a car just wants it to take him from point A to B with less hassle. He does not care about the 0-60 times or top speed of 200mph. A couple of people would care about that though but they don't count much. Do I like german cars? Yes of course. I drive an A6. But then I know my camry has been a lot more reliable than the A6.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/you-all-bought-so-many-camrys-that-toyota-is-again-no-1-in-the-world/

excerpt from caranddriver:

"Camry sales in the U.S. were up five percent, to 428,606. No other nontruck has been able to topple this vanilla sedan for the past 13 years, and with the 2015 refresh, that’s likely to be the case again (hey, you asked for it, you got it)"


The sales is that high because of the price,if the benzez could be sold for close to same price,the sales willdefinitely be higher

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Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by kkulaja(m): 8:15am On Dec 03, 2015
I realised there are lots of converted W203 in Nigeria,I have seen some to be very reliable,while some can be dirty like a mechanic's.I remember one day @ ladipo,a lady came with same W203 and saw one that its interior is kazeemized and the lasy was like is D car owned by a mechanic wondering what on earth could have made such a reliable car so dirty.meanwhile the said car was converted and develops several issues from its gear to sucking keys,acceleration et al.
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by elite(m): 12:07am On Dec 04, 2015
king406:
u are tempting me to post mine too oh grin
pls do lets compare cheesy[quote author=Inception post=40624426][/quote]you can say dat again grin
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by Nobody: 12:01am On Dec 05, 2015
U passed him at 210km meanwhile the benz might just be running at 100km
hkwills:





It so tru. Honda V6 ar great ride wen it come to speed
I hv a baby boy V6. Was on d road one day wen I saw a benz E350 passed me.i raced wit him he kept pushing until I passed him at 210km. He was pussih very hard.den I knw accord V6 ar great cars wen it come to speed. Met wit him lata he told me h was very angry.da no one has eva passed him wen he needs to race. Accord V6 ar just great ride for speed don't try dem
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by abatically(m): 2:12am On Dec 05, 2015
castroevans:
U passed him at 210km meanwhile the benz might just be running at 100km

There they go again. So in ur little mind u think a Benz doing 100km/hr is faster than a Honda doing 120km/hr. Oga use ur brain, speed is a unit of measurement and its always constant. An airplane doing 60km/hr is not faster than a keke napep doing 60km/hr.

So let me ask u, is 10kg of gravel heavier than 10kg feather too?
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by Nobody: 9:35am On Dec 05, 2015
For the fact I quoted u does not mean u should disrespect me bruv. Let's look at it via this angle, a V6 running at 120k and a V8 running at 100, which do u think will be faster? And I still repeat, there is no way in this world that ur Honda baby boy will outrun an MB 350. I believe the driver saved ur life by not out running u. Doing a 210 wit a baby boy is a death wish bruv. Talking about doing 60km per hour, how long will u do that without a halt.
abatically:


There they go again. So in ur little mind u think a Benz doing 100km/hr is faster than a Honda doing 120km/hr. Oga use ur brain, speed is a unit of measurement and its always constant. An airplane doing 60km/hr is not faster than a keke napep doing 60km/hr.

So let me ask u, is 10kg of gravel heavier than 10kg feather too?
Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by abatically(m): 10:02am On Dec 05, 2015
castroevans:
For the fact I quoted u does not mean u should disrespect me bruv. Let's look at it via this angle, a V6 running at 120k and a V8 running at 100, which do u think will be faster? And I still repeat, there is no way in this world that ur Honda baby boy will outrun an MB 350. I believe the driver saved ur life by not out running u. Doing a 210 wit a baby boy is a death wish bruv. Talking about doing 60km per hour, how long will u do that without a halt.

First of all, I'm not the one doing 210 km/hr.

Now to answer ur question, first u have to answer mine. Between 10kg of gravel and 10kg of feather which one is heavier?

Look, a v12 engine running at 100km/hr IS NOT faster than a bicycle running at 100km/hr.

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Re: Between Accord V6 EX-L And C230 2007 Model Sport Sedan: Pls Advise... by praxisnetworks: 1:20pm On Dec 05, 2015
elusive2:
Honestly before i started this thread i test drove the accord and the c230. Even though the honda felt smarter and sleeker on the highway, i could develop the courage to hit it up to 100m/hr as it became lighter as the speedo climbed. The next day my car dealer brought the c230 2007 to our office which i test drove. The smart take off of the honda was missing in the MB but i hit 110m/hr even before I knew it. Car felt stable and safe. I didn't feel this over speeding feather/unstable thing which i got with the accord. There, my confusion came. The interior space and aesthetic beauty of the accord is tempting so also is the feel of strength and pride the c230 offers. Chai which one i go do?
You've got the answer.

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