I strive in my heart ,flesh, spirit man to be perfect like my heavenly Father who loves us all. God is not happy with any arguments here of which am also guilty of..

Therefore, I call on all christians on this thread to pay close attention to what God lead me to read directly from the Bible.His word concerning issues like this..because He is not an author of confusion I repeat.. obey God's word and respect all those who God has given the gifts of the Holy Spirit .Also in likewise manner those who work in vineyard of God and exhibit the fruits and call of the Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ Our Lord.. Here is the Chapter God showed me today:::::
(1 CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 13 VERSES 1-13)

The Greatest Gift

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of
angels, but have not love, I have become sounding
brass or a clanging cymbal. And though I have the gift
of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all
knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could
remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor,
and though I give my body to be burned, but have
not love, it profits me nothing.
Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love
does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not
behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked,
thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but
rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all
things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies,
they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease;
whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. For
we know in part and we prophesy in part. But when
that which is perfect has come, then that which is in
part will be done away.
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood
as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a
man, I put away childish things. For now we see in a
mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in
part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the
greatest of these is love.

vooks:


Those tales and hiring adventures are the WORD of God and can't in any way be compared to yours. That's why they are called scriptures and your fantasies are just fantasies. Scriptures are the yardstick for measuring truth, else why can't you draft an epistle according to Tjayjosh?

by CharlyG1: 9:12am On Nov 01
Hello Guys,
Many of us here reading this
topic didn't just stumble upon it
by mistake.. I welcome U all to
share your spiritual experiences
about seeing demons, spirits,
angels or fallen angels. This
would be a gift if you see these 3
all and may or may not be if U
just see demons only.
The purpose of this thread is to
expose the hidden works of
satan & to counter attack his
deceits.
I remember growing up as a
child, i started to see spirits at
age 11. The first spirit i saw was
dressed up in a white long robe,
looked so white, stood still and
didn't utter a word to me. I could
have taken him to be a real angel,
but something didn't seem right
to me, I somehow knew he
wasn't real. I wasn't scared, my
younger brother who was with
me couldn't even see the spirit. It
just stood still staring straight at
me for about 3mins.. This
happened at night maybe
around 10pm, in my compound.
The next day while I was going
to school, I fell so sick i almost
died.. I was so weak it was
difficult to walk and eat. I had to
be brought home by one of my
teachers.. Even when I told my
family my story no one seemed
to care or believe. And that's the
problem with HSP's.. They're
usually ignored.
As God would have it, almost at
the brink of death, then God
touched my parents and dey
listened.. They prayed for me that
i wud neva see such again but
ever since then it's been worse
(in a good way).. I even began to
see spirits that looked human,
ugly demons, even saw a demon
inside a girl.. I began to know
witches via revelations, have
scary dreams, know what would
happen in few minutes, hear evil
thoughts from a person.. The
good thing about it all is that I
later knew why I was seeing and
experiencing all these and also I
saw an Angel and Jesus Himself,
told me things about this..
Pls lets share our experiences
here, You could be helping
someone without knowing it. It's
difficult to tell people these
things in childhood or even as
we grow, but it's easier to say it
here, Let's edify ourselves. God
bless U all

CharlyG1:
Guys, Pls let's not resort to arguments. It will do us no good.

Thank you.

God bless you all.

Good morning and God bless you Sir.


Your thread like many has said is the best to have graced Nairaland since inception so I believe people should be allowed to post without being shot down because there is no one or no medium God cannot use to reach out to us. This is like an extension of Sunday School for us just that God is using you CharlyG1 daily to satiate our appetite and yearning to know more about Him and the hope of His calling us...


Like I said earlier, because of this recent debate, I went to consult my Bible again and the revelation I got was that the other time God mentioned similar in the Bible was after He created the earth and pondered on the works of His hands and realised it was "good/perfect"...same way He was unhappy and grieved that the men He created had become full of evil then He remembered Noah a "perfect" man...and from this I was able to deduce that perfection has nothing to do with genetics but rather character...


During the discussion Ccolins raised about Rebecca's books, I was going to chip in that it was wrong to condemn her but I didn't get involved again because I read instances where she also used to condemn other Men of God...God used muafrika to bring Phillipians 1:18 to my remembrance: Phillipians 1:18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice...


Earlier on that 4C2215131 was on this thread insulting me, I could have returned fire for fire because I recently became a Christian and before I gave my life to Christ I have never ever backed down from a fight so this thread would have probably gotten locked...


But I kept quiet and ceased fire because in the midst of the 10000 words he directed my way emptily threatening brimstone and fire on my head was the quote in bold below...And although I wasn't out of line with what I said about these religion section trolls, God still used 4C2215131 despite his "different religious leaning" to pass on this poignant message and remind us all of the need to be on guard at all time because that is one modus operandi of that useless jobless satan (the plunderer and stealer of souls) the accuser of the brethren who is always constantly reminding God of our sins. God also used him to remind me of the hedge of protection around us as Christians...that's why the fight in me died down and if I could I would have reached out through the computer screen to hug 4C221 despite all the stuffs he spilled at me

4C2215131:



BE WARNED! DO NOT FOR THE LIFE OF YOU ENGAGE ME AGAIN. THE PROECTION YOU THINK YOU MAY HAVE MAY ALREADY HAVE A BROKEN PASS ABOUT IT (NO THANKS TO YOUR ATTITUDE AS EXEMPLIFIED BY YOUR UNPROVOKED ATTACK ON MY PERSON) AND THAT IS WHERE THE PLUNDERER AND STEALER OF SOULS MAY SEEK ENTRANCE.

LET HE THAT HATH WISDOM HERE WHAT THE SPIRIT IS SAYING TO THE CHURCHES.

ONCE AGAIN, BE WARNED!

CcNnamdi

Busybody2:



Good morning and God bless you Sir.


Your thread like many has said is the best to have graced Nairaland since inception so I believe people should be allowed to post without being shot down because there is no one or no medium God cannot use to reach out to us. This is like an extension of Sunday School for us just that God is using you CharlyG1 daily to satiate our appetite and yearning to know more about Him and the hope of His calling us...


Like I said earlier, because of this recent debate, I went to consult my Bible again and the revelation I got was that the other time God mentioned similar in the Bible was after He created the earth and pondered on the works of His hands and realised it was "good/perfect"...same way He was unhappy and grieved that the men He created had become full of evil then He remembered Noah a "perfect" man...and from this I was able to deduce that perfection has nothing to do with genetics but rather character...


During the discussion Ccolins raised about Rebecca's books, I was going to chip in that it was wrong to condemn her but I didn't get involved again because I read instances where she also used to condemn other Men of God...God used muafrika to bring Phillipians 1:18 to my remembrance: Phillipians 1:18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice...


Earlier on that 4C2215131 was on this thread insulting me, I could have returned fire for fire because I recently became a Christian and before I gave my life to Christ I have never ever backed down from a fight so this thread would have probably gotten locked...


But I kept quiet and ceased fire because in the midst of the 10000 words he directed my way emptily threatening brimstone and fire on my head was the quote in bold below...And although I wasn't out of line with what I said about these religion section trolls, God still used 4C2215131 despite his "different religious leaning" to pass on this poignant message and remind us all of the need to be on guard at all time because that is one modus operandi of that useless jobless satan (the plunderer and stealer of souls) the accuser of the brethren who is always constantly reminding God of our sins. God also used him to remind me of the hedge of protection around us as Christians...that's why the fight in me died down and if I could I would have reached out through the computer screen to hug 4C221 despite all the stuffs he spilled at me







CcNnamdi

very good contribution.. now he that has wisdom should read my last post and also 1 Corinthians 13.. it has said it all

Now for a BETTER UNDERSTANDING, here is 1 Corinthians 13 in king james version:

Chapter 13
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of
angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding
brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy , and
understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though
I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and
have not charity, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor ,
and though I give my body to be burned, and have not
charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth
not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her
own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all
things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be
prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues,
they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall
vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that
which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I
understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I
became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then
face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know
even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three;
but the greatest of these is charity.

Busybody2:



Good morning and God bless you Sir.


Your thread like many has said is the best to have graced Nairaland since inception so I believe people should be allowed to post without being shot down because there is no one or no medium God cannot use to reach out to us. This is like an extension of Sunday School for us just that God is using you CharlyG1 daily to satiate our appetite and yearning to know more about Him and the hope of His calling us...


Like I said earlier, because of this recent debate, I went to consult my Bible again and the revelation I got was that the other time God mentioned similar in the Bible was after He created the earth and pondered on the works of His hands and realised it was "good/perfect"...same way He was unhappy and grieved that the men He created had become full of evil then He remembered Noah a "perfect" man...and from this I was able to deduce that perfection has nothing to do with genetics but rather character...

When the Bible says that Noah was“ perfect in his generations ” the Hebrew word used there for the
word “ perfect ” is tamiym, which
means “ without blemish” or
“ healthy. ”
The reason that is so important is
because that is the exact same
Hebrew
word used in Leviticus to describe an
unblemished, sacrificial lamb.
So you wrong to have deduced that the word "Perfect" used here is connected to character. Noah was not perfect morally , but that his physical make up - DNA –had not been contaminated with Nephillim
descent.

Collins,
I mean this with kindness. From my experience, quoting long sections of scriptures availeth little especially when unaccompanied by clarification of your point(s). Please if you need to push some scriptures to buttress your point, be more focused. You won't believe how the attention span of your audience shrinks in proportion to the length of the portion of the scripture quoted.

Closely related with the claim that Nephilim survived the Flood is another heresy called Serpent Seed. This one claims that Eve actually had sex with the serpent and conceived Cain. The forbidden fruit was a euphemism for sex. A sect called Branhamites are into this as their founder, William Branham popularized it in the 50s and 60s before a drunk rammed into his car killing him.

Serpent Seed reckons thT there are some human beings TODAY who are offspring of Satan and they are characterized by rebelling against God. To this sect, those who reject William Branham messages are offsprings of Cain and Satan by extension. Some variants of this doctrine also teach that black people are the serpent seed. Yet others teach that the serpent seed can never repent as Christ did not die for them.

Modern conspiracy theorists latch onto this to claim that some high leaders are actually offsprings of aliens and man. I have heard prince Charles and even Obama accused of being half-human.


I have been quite clear on my position regarding the Nephilim that they were destroyed totally by the flood together with all humanity barring the 8. theories that entertain Nephilim post Flood give a frightening possibility that some Nephilim are still with us today. Somebody who believed in the Caanan Nephilim is a step away from believing some survived to date. You are talking of men who die and their spirits become demons which then torment humans or so the tale goes.

As you can readily see, your beliefs about Nephilim surviving the flood affects your worldview significantly. This is not a matter to be trivialized.

Many reading this thread are probably Spirit baptized or at least they think they are. Have you ever wondered like myself whether baptism of the Holy Spirit guarantees you of 100% accuracy in comprehending the Word of Truth?

It doesn't. How so? The Spirit of Christ in you is not the only voice in your life. You have been exposed to information,biases and ideas from all over including your own imagination and reasoning. This explains why even along those genuinely Spirit Baptized there exists differences of opinion. It is for this reason that even as we exchange theological blows we must be open to the possibility of being wrong.

Now, supposing the Nephilim spirits are not the so called demons. What are demons? Are they the fallen angels? I personally favor this simple explanation. Demons are simply fallen angels.

Look at it this way; if fallen angels are those angels who had sex with women, then it means there were no fallen angels before Gen 6. But in Eden we find the Serpent or the devil. Don't tell me the Serpent rebelled alone. Is it implausible to say demons are the rebellious angels which were cast out of heaven awaiting their judgement while the angels held in everlasting chains are actually the angels which took part in the second wave of rebellion in Gen 6?

Michaelangelo100:
When the Bible says that Noah was“ perfect in his generations ” the Hebrew word used there for the
word “ perfect ” is tamiym, which
means “ without blemish” or
“ healthy. ”
The reason that is so important is
because that is the exact same
Hebrew
word used in Leviticus to describe an
unblemished, sacrificial lamb.
So you wrong to have deduced that the word "Perfect" used here is connected to character. Noah was not perfect morally , but that his physical make up - DNA –had not been contaminated with Nephillim
descent.

The same word is used of Job in 1:1 so this explanation of yours does not hold much water.
And I must say I can't find the word used anywhere near sacrifices. Here are all the appearances of the word prefect as used in Gen 6. Please note even the trusted dictionaries and concordances differ with you

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/8535.htm

Tell me,
1. are you Michaelangelo100 PERFECT like Noah?
2. How did you know you were PERFECT?
3. What would you do if you found you were not PERFECT?

vooks:

Read about Goliath's height here . He was no more than 9ft. Am 6'1 myself. Goliath was just a tall guy. Contrasted to the average Hebrew height of 5ft, I'd look like a giant somewhat.
tallest man ever was over 8ft

This height of “over nine feet” was
based on the 18” cubit, whereas the
evidence suggests that Israel was
using the slightly longer Egyptian
cubit of 20.7 inches, which would
make Goliath almost 11 feet tall in
reality. No wonder King Saul and
his men were afraid of him. He
was twice their height and many
times their weight and strength.

vooks:


The same word is used of Job in 1:1 so this explanation of yours does not hold much water.

Tell me,
1. are you Michaelangelo100 PERFECT like Noah?
2. How did you know you were PERFECT?
3. What would you do if you found you were not PERFECT?

if it was possible for man to attain perfection by works as job did cos we could see him sacrificing for possibly d sin of his children Its as good as saying Jesus died in vain. Before d cross there was no perfection.

Michaelangelo100:
This height of “over nine feet” was
based on the 18” cubit, whereas the
evidence suggests that Israel was
using the slightly longer Egyptian
cubit of 20.7 inches, which would
make Goliath almost 11 feet tall in
reality. No wonder King Saul and
his men were afraid of him. He
was twice their height and many
times their weight and strength.

Is it too much to ask that you cite your sources?

Thank you

oyeludef:
if it was possible for man to attain perfection by works as job did cos we could see him sacrificing for possibly d sin of his children Its as good as saying Jesus died in vain. Before d cross there was no perfection.

You are right in your assertion thT there was no perfection before the cross. You get it bad in your conclusions.

When we read of perfect men in OT so much that God used them as examples, it means perfect in those days meant somewhat different from the NT concept. But it does not automatically mean perfect is biological, for why would God be bragging to Satan about Job's genetic purity?

Job 1:8 King James Version (KJV)
8 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

Job 2:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.

Job 2:9 KingJames Version (KJV)
9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.

Job's perfection was the very foundation of his trials. It therefore does not make much....sorry...any sense to claim perfect is genetic purity. Job's perfection had nothing to do with genes. Why should you force Noah's to be genetic? PRESUMPTION

vooks:

You are right in your assertion thT there was no perfection before the cross. You get it bad in your conclusions.

When we read of perfect men in OT so much that God used them as examples, it means perfect in those days meant somewhat different from the NT concept. But it does not automatically mean perfect is biological, for why would God be bragging to Satan about Job's genetic purity?

it doesn't have to b genetic. Abraham believed
Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
Romans 4:9 KJV
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Romans 4:3 KJV
I mean God standard for judging perfection in d old testament is completely different from persons to persons as he dealt with them.

oyeludef:
it doesn't have to b genetic. Abraham believed
Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
Romans 4:9 KJV
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Romans 4:3 KJV
I mean God standard for judging perfection in d old testament is completely different from persons to persons as he dealt with them.

Perfect as used for Noah is exclusively used for integrity and uprightness when used with men and I just gave you examples. Do you believe this?

Here you go once again.
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/8535.htm

Please before responding take time and study all the 14 uses of the word adjective perfect in OT and then revert.

There really is no scriptural basis for claiming Noah was genetically pure. This is something you conclude out there and then go to the scriptures on a fishing expedition hoping to validate your préexisting beliefs
And even if he were pure, this is not the verse that proves it. The subject verse is all about his THEN integrity

vooks:


Perfect as used for Noah is exclusively used for integrity and uprightness when used with men and I just gave you examples. Do you believe this?

but he was a drunk na he drank nd exposed his unclothedness. Dat doesn't sound like a morally upright person to me.

oyeludef:
but he was a drunk na he drank nd exposed his unclothedness. Dat doesn't sound like a morally upright person to me.

He got drunk AFTER the flood

You are a believer and who knows, God forbid you may be a blasphemer tomorrow

vooks:

He got drunk AFTER the flood

You are a believer and who knows, God forbid you may be a blasphemer tomorrow

he planted d garden. Brewed the alcohol nd drank to stupor. He must av known d art all along. Well debating dis topic can go on for ever and there are other "weightier matters of the law" which we mustn't neglect too. I pray God will give us more insight into His word

@wealthreviewme.
I see you are quick to insult. If you noticed, this thread has gone on without insults or tension this far.
When you say 'Bible gurus' what exactly do you mean? You said they shd leave the thread and open another one. I see, you came to hear (let me borrow Vooks expression) 'Hair raising tales', without those tales having their bases from the Word of God, right?

@TJ.
I don't expect this from you. How can you of all people, talk about edification of the church outside the word of God. You said the primary purpose of this thread is to edify the church, IRRESPECTIVE OF HOW ITS DONE (?) what you mean here is that satanist can as well come in with their metaphysics and it will be okey, because without the word of Word God to check, no one will be the wiser.

@wealthreviewme. call me anything you like. but the fact remains that, you can't be any closer to God by reading testimonies of others only. What happens when visions and dreams fail?
folk like u let Christ down. When your faith is challenged, becos you don't know what the words says, you throw in the towel and run. mock, call names if you. it doesn't go skin deep.

Michaelangelo100:
When the Bible says that Noah was“ perfect in his generations ” the Hebrew word used there for the
word “ perfect ” is tamiym, which
means “ without blemish” or
“ healthy. ”
The reason that is so important is
because that is the exact same
Hebrew
word used in Leviticus to describe an
unblemished, sacrificial lamb.
So you wrong to have deduced that the word "Perfect" used here is connected to character. Noah was not perfect morally , but that his physical make up - DNA –had not been contaminated with Nephillim
descent.

Thank you very much Michael, Its a good thing am not the only one who is exposed to the fact that perfect used in that verse about Noah was about his DNA.

the bible even put it this way Noah was Just which connotes his attitude and perfect in his generation which connotes genetics not contaminated as he was from the line of Seth...People don't realize the term "perfect in his generation"

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man
and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.(Gen 6:9)

oyeludef:
he planted d garden. Brewed the alcohol nd drank to stupor. He must av known d art all along. Well debating dis topic can go on for ever and there are other "weightier matters of the law" which we mustn't neglect too. I pray God will give us more insight into His word

Whatever he did, he was PERFECT before the flood. Job was perfect and had his flaws sir. So pointing to Noah flaws would not shift the perfect to something you are so desperately after. David is a man after God's heart despite his adulteries and so forth.


My advice? If you need a genetically pure Noah, get something else not this verse

Food for thought.
Why was Job called PERFECT twice by God me once by his wife?

PS
Wine as Psalms says makes the soul glad. Wine is a blessing from God. Only drunkenness is condemned my broda(and am a teetotaler ) This tells me Noah planting vine making wine is not IMPERFECT. Just saying

vooks:


The same word is used of Job in 1:1 so this explanation of yours does not hold much water.
And I must say I can't find the word used anywhere near sacrifices. Here are all the appearances of the word prefect as used in Gen 6. Please note even the trusted dictionaries and concordances differ with you

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/8535.htm

Pls check this link to see Transliteration of Leviticus 22:21.
http:// qbible.com / hebrew-
old-testament /
leviticus / 22.html. Thanks

oyeludef:
if it was possible for man to attain perfection by works as job did cos we could see him sacrificing for possibly d sin of his children Its as good as saying Jesus died in vain. Before d cross there was no perfection.

Powerful answer...


I was also thinking along that line too.

Each time I visit this thread I learn something new

God bless you.

Michaelangelo100:
Pls check this link to see Transliteration of Leviticus 22:21.
http:// qbible.com / hebrew-
old-testament /
leviticus / 22.html. Thanks

I have given you 14 instances where perfect is used my broda and WITHOUT exception, it is all to do with integrity. Your first job at rebuttal would be to dispute this. Why are you so desperate to get a genetic purity where none is hinted?

oyeludef:
but he was a drunk na he drank nd exposed his unclothedness. Dat doesn't sound like a morally upright person to me.

LOLzzzzz.

analice107:
@wealthreviewme.
I see you are quick to insult. If you noticed, this thread has gone on without insults or tension this far.
When you say 'Bible gurus' what exactly do you mean? You said they shd leave the thread and open another one. I see, you came to hear (let me borrow Vooks expression) 'Hair raising tales', without those tales having their bases from the Word of God, right?

@TJ.
I don't expect this from you. How can you of all people, talk about edification of the church outside the word of God. You said the primary purpose of this thread is to edify the church, IRRESPECTIVE OF HOW ITS DONE (?) what you mean here is that satanist can as well come in with their metaphysics and it will be okey, because without the word of Word God to check, no one will be the wiser.

@wealthreviewme. call me anything you like. but the fact remains that, you can't be any closer to God by reading testimonies of others only. What happens when visions and dreams fail?
folk like u let Christ down. When your faith is challenged, becos you don't know what the words says, you throw in the towel and run. mock, call names if you. it doesn't go skin deep.

Anas09,
I pray to God that men would hold everything g else secondary to His word

ccollins:
very good contribution.. now he that has wisdom should read my last post and also 1 Corinthians 13.. it has said it all

I am here to grow more in the knowledge of Christ Sir, so I pray God keep us all as one and remember the greatest commandment in the Bible as you have been saying which is to love God and love our neighbours as ourselves!


As one body in Christ I always wonder why there is always two sides to most topics in the Bible such as "to tithe or not to tithe/trinity /rapture/once saved always saved doctrine/ wear trouser - not allowed/braiding and fixing hair leads to hell - no it doesn't/etc...I pray God in His infinite mercies will grant us all divine favour so that we will all make eternal life in Jesus' name.
Cc CharlyG1

Michaelangelo100:
When the Bible says that Noah was“ perfect in his generations ” the Hebrew word used there for the
word “ perfect ” is tamiym, which
means “ without blemish” or
“ healthy. ”
The reason that is so important is
because that is the exact same
Hebrew
word used in Leviticus to describe an
unblemished, sacrificial lamb.
So you wrong to have deduced that the word "Perfect" used here is connected to character. Noah was not perfect morally , but that his physical make up - DNA –had not been contaminated with Nephillim
descent.

Thanks for the explanation of the various meaning of the word.


[b]But[/b]prior to God touching on the subject Noah, God was expressing His displeasure and agonising over His heartbreak about the evil "character" of men in those era and He was contemplating on wiping off everyone off the face of the earth before He remembered Noah was "perfect aka morally upright...in the same chapter...hence reason I don't believe God was initially musing about men's evil deed/character then veered off "suddenly" to Noah's genes!

zeongeon:
Thank you very much Michael, Its a good thing am not the only one who is exposed to the fact that perfect used in that verse about Noah was about his DNA.

the bible even put it this way Noah was Just which connotes his attitude and perfect in his generation which connotes genetics not contaminated as he was from the line of Seth...People don't realize the term "perfect in his generation"

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man
and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.(Gen 6:9)

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Job 2:3 (KJV)
And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause

Walk us through the distinction between PERFECT and UPRIGHT

Good people, I have just mentioned Serpent Seed and he comes one proponent. What was so special about Seth? Was his DNA pure? Ok. You mean ONLY Noah was the living descendant of Seth at the time of the flood?

analice107:
@wealthreviewme.
I see you are quick to insult. If you noticed, this thread has gone on without insults or tension this far.
When you say 'Bible gurus' what exactly do you mean? You said they shd leave the thread and open another one. I see, you came to hear (let me borrow Vooks expression) 'Hair raising tales', without those tales having their bases from the Word of God, right?

@TJ.
I don't expect this from you. How can you of all people, talk about edification of the church outside the word of God. You said the primary purpose of this thread is to edify the church, IRRESPECTIVE OF HOW ITS DONE (?) what you mean here is that satanist can as well come in with their metaphysics and it will be okey, because without the word of Word God to check, no one will be the wiser.

@wealthreviewme. call me anything you like. but the fact remains that, you can't be any closer to God by reading testimonies of others only. What happens when visions and dreams fail?
folk like u let Christ down. When your faith is challenged, becos you don't know what the words says, you throw in the towel and run. mock, call names if you. it doesn't go skin deep.

no need to take this far, just 1 Corinthians 13

vooks:


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Job 2:3 (KJV)
And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause

Walk us through the distinction between PERFECT and UPRIGHT

bear heed to use of knowledge even of word of God but then tolerate your brethren 1 Corinthians 13

whether you have knowledge of everything including the Bible or you gifted with all revelations and miracle power from God but do not have charity.. you are like a noisy drum in sight of God.. please brethren, I beseech you in Christ Name to be tolerant and understand to the unity of body of Christ as far as it doesn't lead to iniquity --- 1 Corinthians 13

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Job 2:3 (KJV)
And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause

Walk us through the distinction between PERFECT and UPRIGHT

Good people, I have just mentioned Serpent Seed and he comes one proponent. What was so special about Seth? Was his DNA pure? Ok. You mean ONLY Noah was the living descendant of Seth at the time of the flood?

For Noah why do you decide to pick the only the word "perfect" and throw away "in his generation"

Can you walk us through this Perfect in his generation (Noah) and perfect (Job).

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man
and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. Gen 6:9.

zeongeon:


For Noah why do you decide to pick the only the word "perfect" and throw away "in his generation"

Rabbai vooks, can you walk us through this Perfect in his generation (Noah) and perfect (Job).

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man
and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. Gen 6:9.

Rabbai vooks, you can't force down your opinion down the throat of people...No one is seeking to win an argument here, we are all here to learn..

Bro, I agree sir but then comment through the eyes of 1 Corinthians 13