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What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by omakay(m): 10:11am On Jan 03, 2016
The way people cling to religion nowadays is just so amusing. One finds it so hard to decode what really drives people towards christianity.

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Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by drdrei09: 10:14am On Jan 03, 2016
I tink it's the fear of devil, yet they do evil things

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Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by yomi007k(m): 10:15am On Jan 03, 2016
The fear of d devil....

..but most ppl will lie 2 u its d love of God.

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Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by omakay(m): 10:19am On Jan 03, 2016
Little wonder prayers that tend to attack the devil trend very well than prayer points that tend to streghten our love for God.

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Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by tartar9(m): 10:25am On Jan 03, 2016
you mean the fear of God

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Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 10:39am On Jan 03, 2016
First, its belief and the magnetic force that drives that belief is FEAR, Now when you rid christians of that fear in them, Religion would be worthless, futile and considered fairytales. For example, A christian is told in church no to fear a certain god/deity in their village which actually works but only if they also know they could also apply that mind state logic to get rid of God in heaven fear.

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Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by omakay(m): 10:41am On Jan 03, 2016
tartar9:
you mean the fear of God

The LOVE of God is far more profitable than the fear of God.

But i would not mind if we can also differentiate between the Love of God and the Fear of God..
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 10:45am On Jan 03, 2016
Many don't know why they're Christians . They're just it by birth and then they claim the born again thing which is very psychological.

You love someone when there is also someone to hate ,if not there would be nothing like "love".
There is also induced or forceful love . It is more of a facade . A normal human showing love for a tyrant and talks against the person in the closet.

In Christianity people believe in God because ;
1. It trends
2. They're afraid of the devil and it's hell
3. Afraid of the unknown
4. Personal gain or selfishness
5. To give reasons for the unanswered questions .
Etc

The love of God is really not quite it . It's the fear of God. And I don't mean the fear as in love or respect . Not to be punished or barbecued by God .

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Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 10:48am On Jan 03, 2016
Without the Devil, there'd be no God.

No mortar without pestle.

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Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by omakay(m): 10:50am On Jan 03, 2016
This issue of love and fear can be simplified into two scenerios.

A master who is LOVED by his servants.

. versus

A master who is FEARED by his servants.

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Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by SirLegal(m): 10:55am On Jan 03, 2016
I think it is....


THE FEAR OF HELL....
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 10:56am On Jan 03, 2016
So how can i be born again? Who can save me?
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by MizyB(f): 12:12pm On Jan 03, 2016
Speechless3:
So how can i be born again? Who can save me?



Believe on the name of Jesus Christ! Only Jesus can save!
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 2:04pm On Jan 03, 2016
MizyB:




Believe on the name of Jesus Christ! Only Jesus can save!

How abstract .

One should just believe on a name and then be saved. Saved from what precisely ?

It's like telling a 25year old child (whom you gave out for adoption at birth ) that you're are the parent when from his childhood to that point he knew just one one parent .

This things give me more doubt .

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Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 2:45pm On Jan 03, 2016
MizyB:




Believe on the name of Jesus Christ! Only Jesus can save!

hmmmm. Ok then how will i know that am saved? any sign?
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by MizyB(f): 2:53pm On Jan 03, 2016
Speechless3:


hmmmm. Ok then how will i know that am saved? any sign?


The peace of God will fill your heart as an evidence of the HolySpirit living in U.
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by MizyB(f): 2:56pm On Jan 03, 2016
TheAgba:


How abstract .

One should just believe on a name and then be saved. Saved from what precisely ?

It's like telling a 25year old child (whom you gave out for adoption at birth ) that you're are the parent when from his childhood to that point he knew just one one parent .

This things give me more doubt .

Saved from the sinful nature of man into righteousness and holiness of God so as to be able to fellowship smoothly with God and eventually see him in the end
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jan 03, 2016
TheAgba:


How abstract .

Yea absurd a bit but if thats what the bible says who can argue with it.
TheAgba:

One should just believe on a name and then be saved. Saved from what precisely ?

Saved from sin. We are all sinners because of Adam bla bla bla.

My wahala is, does it require believe only. Will i change afterwards. Will God's power overshadow me. What exactly is to happen before and after i get saved !

TheAgba:

It's like telling a 25year old child (whom you gave out for adoption at birth ) that you're are the parent when from his childhood to that point he knew just one one parent .
I think after the new birth, your earthly parents still remain your earthly parents and God your eternal Father.
It doesn't make sense from a world's sense, but when you flip it the other way, aha.

TheAgba:

This things give me more doubt .

You are letting your faith in God get tampered because of something you dont understand. Wow.
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 3:02pm On Jan 03, 2016
Make I hold mouth
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 3:23pm On Jan 03, 2016
MizyB:



The peace of God will fill your heart as an evidence of the HolySpirit living in U.

Thank you. I hope am not bothering! How do i believe? Should i just say, " I believe in you Jesus, only you." Is that really all??

I remember some years back i said a prayer of salvation but nothing happened after. I was still the same. No strange peace filled my heart, nothing. I donk know how to pretend or 'form' when it comes to religion.

I've heard so many people say how they got saved after welcoming Christ into their lives but you know what their lives are anything but Christ-like just like mine. So...

Idk but lately the thoughts of God keep tumbling inside of me. Is that how God works? but i know am not saved(just realised this).
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 3:24pm On Jan 03, 2016
SirWere:
Make I hold mouth

make we beg you?
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 3:36pm On Jan 03, 2016
Speechless3:

make we beg you?
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 3:37pm On Jan 03, 2016
I don't have time to explain the pyschology of religion. Perhaps on another Sunday. Now free me, I'm doing serious research here
Speechless3:


make we beg you?
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 3:43pm On Jan 03, 2016
SirWere:
I don't have time to explain the pyschology of religion. Perhaps on another Sunday. Now free me, I'm doing serious research here

Are you smarter than Jesus?

Do you understand the wisdom behind the four gospels? If no, then you've got nothing on me baby.
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 3:57pm On Jan 03, 2016
Speechless3:


Are you smarter than Jesus?

Do you understand the wisdom behind the four gospels? If no, then you've got nothing on me baby.



Haha. Do you know about the history of the bible.
Do you know about the Gnostic Gospels?
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by urheme: 4:26pm On Jan 03, 2016
Both god and devil are created by men,..

What drives religion ? .... Man does
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 7:57pm On Jan 03, 2016
Speechless3:


Yea absurd a bit but if thats what the bible says who can argue with it.


Saved from sin. We are all sinners because of Adam bla bla bla.

My wahala is, does it require believe only. Will i change afterwards. Will God's power overshadow me. What exactly is to happen before and after i get saved !


I think after the new birth, your earthly parents still remain your earthly parents and God your eternal Father.
It doesn't make sense from a world's sense, but when you flip it the other way, aha.



You are letting your faith in God get tampered because of something you dont understand. Wow.

Faith in God or fear of the unknown ? Fear of being barbecued in hellfire ? etc .

This is the 21st century . You don't expect one to be so much sheeple .
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 7:59pm On Jan 03, 2016
MizyB:


Saved from the sinful nature of man into righteousness and holiness of man so as to be able to fellowship smoothly with God and eventually see him in the end

Reason why the most learned people can't be religious . It makes no sense .
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by MizyB(f): 8:09pm On Jan 03, 2016
Speechless3:


Thank you. I hope am not bothering! How do i believe? Should i just say, " I believe in you Jesus, only you." Is that really all??

I remember some years back i said a prayer of salvation but nothing happened after. I was still the same. No strange peace filled my heart, nothing. I donk know how to pretend or 'form' when it comes to religion.

I've heard so many people say how they got saved after welcoming Christ into their lives but you know what their lives are anything but Christ-like just like mine. So...

Idk but lately the thoughts of God keep tumbling inside of me. Is that how God works? but i know am not saved(just realised this).





thats because u doubted ma.
Confess His salvation into your life with FAITH.
Feel the Spirit of God taking his place in you with FAITH.
Everything you do in this race will be all about the level of your FAITH. No room for doubting at all.
The bible said 'The Just Shall Live by Faith'
Thereafter, feed voraciously on the word of God.
Dont worry about the interpretations of what u dont seem to get, the Holyspirit(now in U) will do all that.

Be Blessed ma!
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by MizyB(f): 8:22pm On Jan 03, 2016
TheAgba:


Reason why the most learned people can't be religious . It makes no sense .



OH my dear brother, please Christianity isnt a religion. Salvation is by no man's power, but by the Power of God in our Lord Jesus Christ.
And you can have a PHD and still be uneducated. This life is more than Dx or Dy bla bla bla- knowledge of men. Thank God being 'learned' is not a criteria for Salvation!
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by bxcode(m): 8:25pm On Jan 03, 2016
Religion is driven by none of these, religion is driven by man's quest to find answers to issues that are beyond his five senses and the outcome of seeking for such truth where you can't find it results in the chaos religion has caused in the world today.
Re: What Drives Religion? The Love Of God Or The Fear Of The Devil....... by Nobody: 8:41pm On Jan 03, 2016
MizyB:




OH my dear brother, please Christianity isnt a religion. Salvation is by no man's power, but by the Power of God in our Lord Jesus Christ.
And you can have a PHD and still be uneducated. This life is more than Dx or Dy bla bla bla- knowledge of men. Thank God being 'learned' is not a criteria for Salvation!

Don't you think it is very WRONG to say Christianity isn't a religion ?

1. The belief in and worship of a supernatural controlling power, especially a personal god or gods.

2. A particular system of faith and worship.

3. ...

4. ...

5. Any practice to which someone or some group is seriously devoted.

(Source : Wiktionary)

No matter how you try to define Christianity , you still define it as religion because it is indeed a religion .

If Salvation is by the power of God then why is everyone not saved ? It doesn't depict an omnipotent God . Don't you think ? If God can't exercise his power in saving all . If he really wants all to be saved he should do it and if he is unwilling , then does that depict a loving God ? What if he is willing and unable ? And also willing and able ?

This salvation as it stands isn't for all and that makes no sense . Flawed it is....!

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