cloudgoddess:

Hey Richi, let me ask you an honest question here.

A typical atheist might say, "There have been over 4,000 gods throughout human history, but not one of them seems to have any consistent evidence, and many of them contradict eachother and make claims that sound very unrealistic. So until I see solid evidence for any one of those gods, I won't believe in one."

A Christian might say, "I believe that the God of Abraham created everything. I know this because I have faith in the holy book, which also says that snakes and donkeys have talked to humans before, a human has survived in the belly of a sea creature despite their highly acidic stomachs, a human woman was formed by the rib of a man even though bones do not contain most of the compounds needed to form a complete human, a baby was born from a woman who's egg was not fertilized, and angels come down from the heavens and talk to people. I have never seen these things happen but I know they are real because the bible says it is so. Also I know that the other 3,999 gods are all fake and mine is real, because the bible says so and I feel it in my heart."

If you were an objective observer - not Christian, not Atheist, just an impartial onlooker, which person would seem more like they believed in fairy tales? Which person would appear more superstitious to you? Please answer that. Thanks.

When I said atheists know absolutely nothing or very little about Christianity and God they thought I was lying . Just negodu what someone posted . Just imagine the ludicrousness .

cloudgoddess:

If a Christian school is teaches evolution, their version of it is likely butchered, censored to leave room for biblical explanations, and extremely biased. There is no way a Nigerian Christian school is teaching real evolution. Especially since you and winner have both said several things that no valid source on evolution has ever claimed, like life appearing from thin air.

You are a complete idiot

Here is an excerpt from the National Geographic page I posted, since it is very likely that neither of you will click on it.

"Why are scientists certain that human evolution happened?
For a number of reasons. We share nearly 99 percent of our genetic sequence with chimpanzees and bonobos, which strongly suggests we share a common ancestor. And there are thousands of fossils documenting progressively more human-like species in the evolution of our lineage after it split from the other great apes and later from chimps and bonobos.

Biologists have actually observed evolution happening in other species, both in the field and in the lab—the recent emergence of antibiotic-resistant microbes is a form of evolution. And animal breeders make evolution happen all the time—think of the tremendous variety of dog breeds that have been created from wolves.

Is evolution at odds with the Bible?
Yes, if you think the Bible has to be interpreted literally. Evolution contradicts the Genesis story that God created all organisms in their present form. But you can believe in God without believing that the Bible is literally true."

KingEbukasBlog:


You are a complete idiot

Explain how any of what is contained in that post makes me an idiot. Tell me, how I am an idiot for saying that a religious source teaching evolution, a topic that is clearly controversial in the religious sphere - is very likely to be biased. Please explain how that is a stupid or untrue statement. Thanks.

KingEbukasBlog:


When I said atheists know absolutely nothing or very little about Christianity and God they thought I was lying . Just negodu what someone posted . Just imagine the ludicrousness .

The bible doesn't say any of what I posted there?

cloudgoddess:
Here is an excerpt from the National Geographic page I posted, since it is very likely that neither of you will click on it.

"Why are scientists certain that human evolution happened?
For a number of reasons. We share nearly 99 percent of our genetic sequence with chimpanzees and bonobos, which strongly suggests we share a common ancestor. And there are thousands of fossils documenting progressively more human-like species in the evolution of our lineage after it split from the other great apes and later from chimps and bonobos.

Biologists have actually observed evolution happening in other species, both in the field and in the lab—the recent emergence of antibiotic-resistant microbes is a form of evolution. And animal breeders make evolution happen all the time—think of the tremendous variety of dog breeds that have been created from wolves.

Is evolution at odds with the Bible?
Yes, if you think the Bible has to be interpreted literally. Evolution contradicts the Genesis story that God created all organisms in their present form. But you can believe in God without believing that the Bible is literally true."

This is why you'll continue remaining an idiot . I've clearly told you that evolution does not rule out God . If you wish to take it allegorically then you are mostly likely to be a theistic evolutionist . What is your problem this girl Eh ?

Evolution ! Evolution !! most of these BS you are disturbing everyone with have been dealt well with in the past by christian scientists on Nairaland . There are top christians like Ineqor , KoloOyinbo etc who are theistic evolutionists . WHat do you wish to achieve with such emptiness

cloudgoddess:

Explain how any of what is contained in that post makes me an idiot. Tell me, how I am an idiot for saying that a religious source teaching evolution, a topic that is clearly controversial in the religious sphere - is very likely to be biased. Please explain how that is a stupid or untrue statement. Thanks.

You just made an odious assumption so you can wallow in your delusions ... right ? Religious teachings are not included as part of any courses' being taught/lectured in any University . WTF is wrong with you ?

KingEbukasBlog:


This is why you continue remaining an idiot . I've clearly told you that evolution does not rule out God . If you wish to take it allegorically then you are mostly likely to be a theistic evolutionist . What is your problem this girl Eh ?

Evolution ! Evolution !! most of these BS you are disturbing everyone with have been dealt well with in the past by christian scientists on Nairaland . There are top christians like Ineqor , KoloOyinbo etc who are theistic evolutionists . WHat do you wish to achieve with such emptiness

Evolution rules out the god of Genesis. The god that said "let there be light". Is that not the god you worship? It also rules out any god that claims it created animal species all at once, because that is not possible within the evolutionary model. Kindly take a look at the diagrams I posted above.

Christian scientists are biased towards Christianity. Being a Christian and claiming that you accept evolution only means that you are good at fragmenting your brain. The God of Yahweh, who took Adam's rib to make Eve, could not possibly exist with evolution, because in evolution, there were no Adam & Eve. No first two humans. The entire race of modern humans are the progeny of a previous species of more ape-like humans. The Adam and Eve story can not fit into that picture.

KingEbukasBlog:


You just made an odious assumption so you can wallow in your delusions ... right ? Religious teachings are not included as part of any courses' being taught/lectured in any University . WTF is wrong with you ?

Yes, I am the one who is delusional even though I am talking calmly and presenting valid sources, while you are namecalling, yelling, and trying to belittle me for being a woman.

That makes sense.

cloudgoddess:

Evolution rules out the god of Genesis. The god that said "let there be light". Is that not the god you worship? It also rules out any god that claims it created animal species all at once, because that is not possible within the evolutionary model. Kindly take a look at the diagrams I posted above.

Christian scientists are biased towards Christianity. Being a Christian and claiming that you accept evolution only means that you are good at fragmenting your brain. The God of Yahweh, who took Adam's rib to make Eve, could not possibly exist with evolution, because in evolution, there were no Adam & Eve. No first two humans. The entire race of modern humans are the progeny of a previous species of more ape-like humans. The Adam and Eve story can not fit into that picture.

Mtcheew . Please go back to school .I cant be repeating the same thing all over again . Your hate for this "non-existent" God is clouding your sense of reasoning .

Evolution has been debunked all over and all over again . Its gets more hilarious when evolutionists now turn their backs on the theory when it became glaring that most holes in theory were patched with assumptions

KingEbukasBlog:


Mtcheew . Please go back to school .I cant be repeating the same thing all over again . Your hate for this "non-existent" God is clouding your sense of reasoning .

Evolution has been debunked all over and all over again . Its gets more hilarious when evolutionists now turn their backs on the theory when it became glaring that most holes in theory were patched with assumptions

I am in school currently. I have taken 7 biology courses so far, scored A's in most of them. But you don't care about that because all you want to do is belittle me and everything I am saying, even though I am being quite reasonable here, and at least attempting to be courteous.

First, you said evolution doesn't discredit god and then posted Christians who believe in evolution. Then, you said evolution is debunked. So which is it?

And how could evolution have been debunked when pubMed has over 400,000 peer-reviewed research papers on the topic, and the collection is growing every single day? Why would the pages I posted from Harvard, Princeton, and Cambridge still be up and running, if evolution was debunked as you say? Why would so many prestigious universities and research institutions still be teaching and funding it?

cloudgoddess:

Yes, I am the one who is delusional even though I am talking calmly and presenting valid sources, while you are namecalling, yelling, and trying to belittle me for being a woman.

That makes sense.

You can be a male with a female moniker for obvious reasons .

You dont study where I study and you are making false claims . Which valid source told you that Covenant University teaches evolution with religious bias ? Why did you make such claim ... huh ?

Evolution is a scientific theory and is handled the same way every university anywhere handles lectures on the theory . You dont prevaricate with so much audacity to deceive - that's what atheism does . Deception and lies , false accusations and claims , fo.olish assumptions - the bedrock of atheism

KingEbukasBlog:


You can be a male with a female moniker for obvious reasons .

You dont study where I study and you are making false claims . Which valid source told you that Covenant University teaches evolution with religious bias ? Why did you make such claim ... huh ?

Evolution is a scientific theory and is handled the same way every university anywhere handles lectures on the theory . You dont prevaricate with so much audacity to deceive - that's what atheism does . Deception and lies , false accusations and claims , fo.olish assumptions - the bedrock of atheism

Well I am a female. I go to school in the US.

Here in the US, there are private Christian schools who teach creationism, and only briefly mention evolution, never giving a full, coherent explanation. Since Nigeria is even more religious than the US, is it so dramatic, as you claim, to assume that they are likely practicing similar twistings/belittling/watering down of evolution in order to allow sprace for Christian doctrines to prevail? Is that so much of a ridiculous thing to assume, given what's going on in schools even in the US where they have seperation of church and state?

A scientific Theory is a collection of explanations that describe facts. The Cell Theory is a theory that describes the fact that cells compose every living thing. The Germ Theory of Disease is the Theory that describes the fact that microbial organisms cause illnesses. The definition of theory in biological science and in layman's terms are different - this is a major source of confusion for many people.

In layman's terms, "theory" is simultaneous with "a good guess". In biology, a Theory is "a coherent group of propositions formulated to explain a group of facts or phenomena in the natural world and repeatedly confirmed through experiment or observation."

If someone came to you now and told you Vishnu was the real God and all other gods were false, would you go and follow him? If not, then you are atheist towards Vishnu. You do not believe in Vishnu because you feel as though there is insufficient evidence for Vishu to exist. Atheists are of the stance that there is no sufficient evidence for Vishu, OR the god of Abraham, OR the 4,000+ gods that have been worshipped throughout history. That's all there is to it. Just like you don't "hate" Vishnu, I do not "hate" the god of Abraham. I simply do not believe that he, or any of the other thousands of gods that have been proposed throughout humankind, exist.

cloudgoddess:

I am in school currently. I have taken 7 biology courses so far, scored A's in most of them. But you don't care about that because all you want to do is belittle me and everything I am saying, even though I am being quite reasonable here, and at least attempting to be courteous.

First, you said evolution doesn't discredit god and then posted Christians who believe in evolution. Then, you said evolution is debunked. So which is it?

And how could evolution have been debunked when pubMed has over 400,000 peer-reviewed research papers on the topic, and the collection is growing every single day? Why would the pages I posted from Harvard, Princeton, and Cambridge still be up and running, if evolution was debunked as you say? Why would so many prestigious universities and research institutions still be teaching and funding it?

Christians are being misled by the theory . Even atheists here on Nairaland have distanced themselves from the theory due to obvious reasons . Old earth creationism , though with differing points , explains life on earth .

Can you list the "overwhelming " evidence for evolution ?

Dalaman , in all honesty can you tell cloudgoddess why you dont support the theory of evolution ?

KingEbukasBlog:


Christians are being misled by the theory . Even atheists here on Nairaland have distanced themselves from the theory due to obvious reasons . Old earth creationism , though with differing points , explains life on earth .

Can you list the "overwhelming " evidence for evolution ?

I am quite certain that the people you mention are not well-educated on evolution and have distanced themselves from it out of their own ignorance and/or frustration. And I understand that, because it takes time to learn it well. But something being difficult to understand doesn't give license to disregard it.

400,000 research papers each describing in deep detail morphological, genetic, and molecular findings in support of evolution are not enough? What about the phylogenic trees I posted earlier? Or the full National Geographic article on human evolution that I posted earlier? Or the lectures from Khan Academy? Have you looked at those yet?

cloudgoddess:

Well I am a female.

There is still no proof .

I go to school in the US. Came here from Nigeria 3 years ago for university.

Here in the US, there are private Christian schools who teach creationism, and only briefly mention evolution, never giving a full, coherent explanation. Since Nigeria is even more religious than the US, is it so dramatic, as you claim, to assume that they are likely practicing similar twistings/belittling/watering down of evolution in order to allow sprace for Christian doctrines to prevail? Is that so much of a ridiculous thing to assume, given what's going on in schools even in the US where they have seperation of church and state?

Yes it is

If someone came to you now and told you Vishnu was the real God and all other gods were false, would you go and follow him? If not, then you are atheist towards Vishnu. You do not believe in Vishnu because you feel as though there is insufficient evidence for Vishu to exist. Atheists are of the stance that there is insufficient evidence for Vishu, OR the god of Abraham, OR the 4,000+ gods that have been worshipped throughout history. That's all there is to it. Just like you don't "hate" Vishnu, I do not "hate" the god of Abraham. I simply do not believe that he, or any of the other thousands of gods that have been proposed throughout humankind, exist.

THere are no 4 ,000 + gods instead there are 4,000 + religions . Some religions worship heroes and people who have lived past lives , some see elements/constituents of nature - earth , sun , rocks , tress - as gods . While very few have supernatural deities as gods . Men of old explained "abnormal" natural phenomena as the actions of gods - debunked through Science .

This post meant to be long but the summary is that an eternal creator exist . There is insufficient evidence about the formation of the universe - scientists knowing so little - and ruling out a creator is complete stu.pidity

cloudgoddess:

I am quite certain that the people you mention are not well-educated on evolution and have distanced themselves from it out of their own ignorance and/or frustration. And I understand that, because it takes time to learn it well. But something being difficult to understand doesn't give license to disregard it.

400,000 research papers each describing in deep detail morphological, genetic, and molecular findings in support of evolution are not enough? What about the phylogenic trees I posted earlier? Or the full National Geographic article on human evolution that I posted earlier? Or the lectures from Khan Academy? Have you looked at those yet?

I just made a simple request : Can you list overwhelming evidences that prove evolution ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Dalaman , in all honesty can you tell cloudgoddess why you dont support the theory of evolution ?

Instead of mentioning my moniker, why don't you just tell her how all humans descended from one man and one woman as alleged by the bible. Tell her why your God forgot to mention the creation of the earth's magnetic field when talking about how he created the world in genesis. Carry your cross and stop calling me to rescue you.

cloudgoddess:

I am quite certain that the people you mention are not well-educated on evolution and have distanced themselves from it out of their own ignorance and/or frustration. And I understand that, because it takes time to learn it well. But something being difficult to understand doesn't give license to disregard it.

400,000 research papers each describing in deep detail morphological, genetic, and molecular findings in support of evolution are not enough? What about the phylogenic trees I posted earlier? Or the full National Geographic article on human evolution that I posted earlier? Or the lectures from Khan Academy? Have you looked at those yet?

I am quite certain that atheists are not well -educated on Christianity and the God-concept and have chosen to disbelieve out of their own ignorance and/or frustration . And I understand that , because it takes more than your understanding to know God .But something being difficult to understand doesn't five license to disbelief in it

2.4 BILLION people are adherents and followers of an eternal creator . The genesis of the formation of the universe and life , the testimonies , revelations by millions are not enough ? What about the testimonies people have been talking about ? What about the foolishness of a design without a designer ? Or life evolving as we know it supposedly without a goal or direction ? Life as we know it came out by chance ? Have you cogitated on the ludicrousness of your unbelief ? Which is more rational : An eternal creator or the blind formation of everything leading to consciousness , intelligence and super-complexity ?

KingEbukasBlog:

There is still no proof .


I go to school in the US. Came here from Nigeria 3 years ago for university.

Here in the US, there are private Christian schools who teach creationism, and only briefly mention evolution, never giving a full, coherent explanation. Since Nigeria is even more religious than the US, is it so dramatic, as you claim, to assume that they are likely practicing similar twistings/belittling/watering down of evolution in order to allow sprace for Christian doctrines to prevail? Is that so much of a ridiculous thing to assume, given what's going on in schools even in the US where they have seperation of church and state?

Yes it is



If someone came to you now and told you Vishnu was the real God and all other gods were false, would you go and follow him? If not, then you are atheist towards Vishnu. You do not believe in Vishnu because you feel as though there is insufficient evidence for Vishu to exist. Atheists are of the stance that there is insufficient evidence for Vishu, OR the god of Abraham, OR the 4,000+ gods that have been worshipped throughout history. That's all there is to it. Just like you don't "hate" Vishnu, I do not "hate" the god of Abraham. I simply do not believe that he, or any of the other thousands of gods that have been proposed throughout humankind, exist.

THere are no 4 ,000 + gods instead there are 4,000 + religions . Some religions worship heroes and people who have lived past lives , some see elements/constituents of nature - earth , sun , rocks , tress - as gods . While very few have supernatural deities as gods . Men of old explained "abnormal" natural phenomena as the actions of gods - debunked through Science .

This post meant to be long but the summary is that an eternal creator exist . There is insufficient evidence about the formation of the universe - scientists knowing so little - and ruling out a creator is complete stu.pidity

There is still no proof .
There is no proof you aren't actually a white person, or a serial killer. What, do you expect me to post photos of myself on a public medium just so you can know I am a woman? I have no interest in doing that, so if you want to believe I'm a man, you can. I don't see how that changes anything though.

THere are no 4 ,000 + gods instead there are 4,000 + religions .
There are sources that claim there have been over 10,000 gods. Some sources say it's between 2,000 and 3,000. The lowest I've seen is in the 2,000's. But even if there were only 500, that still doesn't change the fact that to choose one and deny the other 499, would make you atheist towards those 499 gods. Self-proclaimed atheists only go one god further. Instead of picking 1 and disguarding 499, we disgard all 500.

scientists knowing so little - and ruling out a creator is complete stu.pidity
Scientists openly proclaim that their knowledge is limited. They do not claim to have all the answers. But the answers they have found, and are confident in, contradict the doctrines of almost all major religions. The only sensible choice would be to conclude that the gods of those specific religions do not exist, and were made up by innocently ignorant individuals from long ago, back when humans really didn't know much about the world around them.

A scientist can still say "maybe there is a god" - and many of them do say that. But they don't claim to know exactly what god that is, what he wants us to do, or whether he even wants to be worshipped. Saying "there must be a creator" still doesn't prove that the Christian god of Abraham is that creator. There could be a god who doesn't care what humans do as long as we are all kind to eachother. There could be a god that simply set off the big bang, then stopped interfering from that point onwards so he could do other things. There could be a god who does not feel the need to be praised, and does not want to interfere in our lives. And if that's the case, then worship, prayer, and all other religious rituals would be unnecessary.

dalaman:


Instead of mentioning my moniker, why don't you just tell her how all humans descended from one man and one woman as alleged by the bible. Tell her why your God forgot to mention the creation of the earth's magnetic field when talking about how he created the world in genesis. Carry your cross and stop calling me to rescue you.

Cloudgoddess . Here are his words :

dalaman:


Some aspects of evolution are factual. I do not accept the theory completely but to deny that some aspects of it are true is to not know what you are talking about. Transfer of genetic material is true. Mutation is true. Adaptation is true, evolution is based on some of these factual principles. The theory is full of supposition and hypothesis which I find unconvincing.

Yawn . The dullardman is just too dumb to understand the basics of different motives . I can extricate myself from any form of argument .

And the fun part is that She thinks that you dont have the intellectual capacity to comprehend the theory

cloudgoddess:

I am quite certain that the people you mention are not well-educated on evolution and have distanced themselves from it out of their own ignorance and/or frustration. And I understand that, because it takes time to learn it well. But something being difficult to understand doesn't give license to disregard it.

KingEbukasBlog:


Cloudgoddess . Here are his words :



Yawn . The dullardman is just too dumb to understand the basics of different motives . I can extricate myself from any form of argument .

And the fun part is that She thinks that you dont have the intellectual capacity to comprehend the theory

Evolution despite its holes is much more credible than the bible creation account that claims man was created from sand and woman from the ribs of a man, or that plants were spoken into existence using the Hebrew language. Maybe you can start by explaining to us how voice turns matter into living cells.

cloudgoddess:

There is still no proof .
There is no proof you aren't actually a white person, or a serial killer. What, do you expect me to post photos of myself on a public medium just so you can know I am a woman? I have no interest in doing that, so if you want to believe I'm a man, you can. I don't see how that changes anything though.

You are the one who brought up claims that I was belittling you because you were female . And I insisted there is no proof you are .

THere are no 4 ,000 + gods instead there are 4,000 + religions .
There are sources that claim there have been over 10,000 gods. Some sources say it's between 2,000 and 3,000. The lowest I've seen is in the 2,000's. But even if there were only 500, that still doesn't change the fact that to choose one and deny the other 499, would make you atheist towards those 499 gods. Self-proclaimed atheists only go one god further. Instead of picking 1 and disguarding 499, we disgard all 500.

I am an atheist to all gods but the Holy Trinity

Religion has debilitated the rationality of the existence of a creator of our material universe . Here is a rational " thought" : An eternal creator orchestrated the formation of the universe . There you go , refute it

scientists knowing so little - and ruling out a creator is complete stu.pidity
Scientists openly proclaim that their knowledge is limited. They do not claim to have all the answers. But the answers they have found, and are confident in, contradict the doctrines of almost all major religions. The only sensible choice would be to conclude that the gods of those specific religions do not exist, and were made up by innocently ignorant individuals from long ago, back when humans really didn't know much about the world around them.

A scientist can still say "maybe there is a god" - and many of them do say that. But they don't claim to know exactly what god that is, what he wants us to do, or whether he even wants to be worshipped. Saying "there must be a creator" still doesn't prove that the Christian god of Abraham is that creator. There could be a god who doesn't care what humans do as long as we are all kind to eachother. There could be a god that simply set off the big bang, then stopped interfering from that point onwards so he could do other things. There could be a god who does not feel the need to be praised, and does not want to interfere in our lives. And if that's the case, then worship, prayer, and all other religious rituals would be unnecessary.

Is ruling out a creator foolish since we know so little because of the vastness of our universe ? Can you give an honest answer ?

dalaman:


Evolution despite its holes is much more credible than the bible creation account that claims man was created from sand and woman from the ribs of a man, or that plants were spoken into existence using the Hebrew language. Maybe you can start by explaining to us how voice turns matter into living cells.

I have answered this question with the smart house example . Dont be boring

KingEbukasBlog:


I have answered this question with the smart house example . Dont be boring

Smart house example? . That's laughable.

KingEbukasBlog:



Religion has debilitated the rationality of the existence of a creator of our material universe . Here is a rational " thought" : An eternal creator orchestrated the formation of the universe . There you go , refute it

It is a lie, 10 external creators orchestrate the formation of the universe. There you go, I have refuted it.

KingEbukasBlog:


You are the one who brought up claims that I was belittling you because you were female . And I insisted there is no proof you are .



I am an atheist to all gods but the Holy Trinity

Religion has debilitated the rationality of the existence of a creator of our material universe . Here is a rational " thought" : An eternal creator orchestrated the formation of the universe . There you go , refute it




Is ruling out a creator foolish since we know so little because of the vastness of our universe ? Can you give an honest answer ?

Did you skip over my entire second paragraph there?

Saying "there must be a creator" still doesn't prove that the Christian god of Abraham is that creator. There could be a god who doesn't care what humans do as long as we are all kind to eachother. There could be a god that simply set off the big bang, then stopped interfering from that point onwards so he could do other things. There could be a god who does not feel the need to be praised, and does not want to interfere in our lives. And if that's the case, then worship, prayer, and all other religious rituals would be unnecessary.

If I were to believe in a generic god untied to any religious dogma, that still would not discredit evolution, or make Christianity any more valid.

dalaman:


Smart house example? . That's laughable.

Know one knows how the words of God clearly brought forth life . The idea of the smart house was the simplest explanation - you know considering your level of understanding .

Issuing commands using Siri of the iPhone gets your needs done . Its a design and it obeys your command .

An eternal non-material - spirit- entity who spoke light into being because of the power he possesses is beyond your comprehension ? No offense but I can understand why tho

dalaman:


It is a lie, 10 external creators orchestrate the formation of the universe. There you go, I have refuted it.

I understand you are trying to be relevant but step aside let her carry her cross

cloudgoddess:


Did you skip over my entire second paragraph there?

Saying "there must be a creator" still doesn't prove that the Christian god of Abraham is that creator. There could be a god who doesn't care what humans do as long as we are all kind to eachother. There could be a god that simply set off the big bang, then stopped interfering from that point onwards so he could do other things. There could be a god who does not feel the need to be praised, and does not want to interfere in our lives. And if that's the case, then worship, prayer, and all other religious rituals would be unnecessary.

If I were to believe in a generic god untied to any religious dogma, that still would not discredit evolution, or make Christianity any more valid.

So you have accepted the rationality of the existence of a God right ?

KingEbukasBlog:


So you have accepted the rationality of the existence of a God right ?

The existence of the biblical god is irrational no matter how you spin it. But being open to the possibility of a god outside of all known doctrines is not necessarily irrational, no.

What makes specific gods irrational is the claims they make. Christianity makes unique claims about it's god that have not been validated consistently by outside sources and that have been invalidated by many independent sources. That's what makes the Christian god a myth. Same goes for the other thousands (or hundreds, whichever suits you) of gods.

If I say there could be a god, but make no claims about what he/she does, looks like, wants us to do, etc, then I'm not being irrational. If a scientist, me, or anyone else who does not believe in a god decided to one day say, "perhaps there is a god that got the big bang started then fell off the map", it would not add validity to any Christian doctrines, including the idea we are meant to worship or pray in the first place.