Guys, I recently solved which came first the chicken or the egg, but this question is too pesky for me to ignore completely. So without googling for clues and answers as so many has proffered all over the web (believe me I haven't neither), I would really like to know what you eggheads think when an unstoppable force of nature collides with an immovable one.

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Just go to sleep, the weed will wear off before you wake up tomorrow

ITbomb:
Just go to sleep, the weed will wear off before you wake up tomorrow

Truth is. . . I DON'T WEED because when I twice experimented with Canabis, it made me hallucinate like sh1t for a long time, guess why? Because I realized perhaps I am already high by default. So nothing is clearing off by morning, have you any answer to the question ?

ghostofsparta:

Truth is. . . I DON'T WEED because when I twice experimented with Canabis, it made me hallucinate like sh1t for a long time, guess why? Because I realized perhaps I am already high by default. So nothing is clearing off by morning, have you any answer to the question ?

This is more serious than I thought

when an unstoppable force hits an immovable object...
well, the unstoppable force simple bounces off the immovable object and goes the other way...in its unstoppable fashion. while the immovable object remains immovable.

pray do tell...which came first? the chicken or the egg?

1 of the involved object uld shatter

samted:
when an unstoppable force hits an immovable object...
well, the unstoppable force simple bounces off the immovable object and goes the other way...in its unstoppable fashion. while the immovable object remains immovable.

pray do tell...which came first? the chicken or the egg?

Eggken or chickegg

samted:
when an unstoppable force hits an immovable object...
well, the unstoppable force simple bounces off the immovable object and goes the other way...in its unstoppable fashion. while the immovable object remains immovable.

pray do tell...which came first? the chicken or the egg?

what if both objects are confined?I mean they are both in 1 confined space

Sempumping:






what if both objects are confined?I mean they are both in 1 confined space

principle still applies. The unstoppable force keeps going back and forth in an infinite loop.

marshalcarter:

Eggken or chickegg

lool

neega.

samted:
when an unstoppable force hits an immovable object...
well, the unstoppable force simple bounces off the immovable object and goes the other way...in its unstoppable fashion. while the immovable object remains immovable.

pray do tell...which came first? the chicken or the egg?

Logical answer from you samted, but let this 'thought experiment' is operating within a close-system wherein the unstoppable force is omni-directional and there is no where the immovable objects diverts its off to, the unstoppable force is exerting all its energy on the immovable object.

Sempumping:
one of the involved quantities should shatter

, the force can't shatter for it is a fundamental type with unlimited mass/energy and the object itself can't shatter because it's particles (molecular structures) are so densely parked it resist to snap or crack.

marshalcarter:

Eggken or chickegg

The chicken (Adiye) came first to Earth (Ile-Aye) because Ifa states that "a pentadactyl cockerel was brought with....to Ile-Aye, by....."

ghostofsparta:
Logical answer from you samted, but let this 'thought experiment' is operating within a close-system wherein the unstoppable force is omni-directional and there is no where the immovable objects diverts its off to, the unstoppable force is exerting all its energy on the immovable object.

then a big bang occurs.

samted:


then a big bang occurs.

Wow! you are really solving this. I concur. I think that's likely what's bound to happen within such a system, pure energy in the form of light. But let's still think of factors unaccounted for, btw do you believe in African science and technologies erroneously known as jaz/juju (you know na), by believe I am both referring to their existence and efficacy ?

ghostofsparta:
Logical answer from you samted, but let this 'thought experiment' is operating within a close-system wherein the unstoppable force is omni-directional and there is no where the immovable objects diverts its off to, the unstoppable force is exerting all its energy on the immovable object.

, the force can't shatter for it is a fundamental type with unlimited mass/energy and the object itself can't shatter because it's particles (molecular structures) are so densely parked it resist to snap or crack.

The chicken (Adiye) came first to Earth (Ile-Aye) because Ifa states that "a pentadactyl cockerel was brought with....to Ile-Aye, by....."

this 1 pass my power. ............


#runs to bed

ghostofsparta:
Wow! you are really solving this. I concur. I think that's likely what's bound to happen within such a system, pure energy in the form of light. But let's still think of factors unaccounted for, btw do you believe in African science and technologies erroneously known as jaz/juju (you know na), by believe I am both referring to their existence and efficacy ?

I choose not to. unfortunately, such beliefs have been embedded in my subconscious from my early years... so I guess a part of me still believes in such nonsense.
What's the relationship?

Sempumping:











this 1 pass my power. ............


#runs to bed

lol. don't dream of an unstoppable force ooo

ghostofsparta:
Guys, I recently solved which came first the chicken or the egg, but this question is too pesky for me to ignore completely. So without googling for clues and answers as so many has proffered all over the web (believe me I haven't neither), I would really like to know what you eggheads think when an unstoppable force of nature collides with an immovable one.

Going by newton's 3rd law of motion: I think the 'so called' unstoppable force would be brought to a halt.
Because 1. It is the one in motion (more like na him go fine trouble)
2. The magnitude of the force at which it hits the immovable object is the same it would require for the object to 'push back at it' in order to maintain its status as immovable. The total force at that point becomes 0 as they both cancel each other.


That's my own way of looking at it.

Guys pls.

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RobinHez:


Going by newton's 3rd law of motion: I think the 'so called' unstoppable force would be brought to a halt.
Because 1. It is the one in motion (more like na him go fine trouble)

Don't you get the logic in this puzzle, it can't be brought to a halt because it's unstoppable. It's an unceasing force of nature wherein it is abominable for it to rest.

RobinHez:

2. The magnitude of the force at which it hits the immovable object is the same it would require for the object to 'push back at it' in order to maintain its status as immovable. The total force at that point becomes 0 as they both cancel each other.

That's my own way of looking at it.

Exactly the crux of the question, what do you think happens in reality (which can be observed) when they cancel each other out ?

ghostofsparta:

Don't you get the logic in this puzzle, it can't be brought to a halt because it's unstoppable. It's an unceasing force of nature wherein it is abominable for it to rest.

Oh.. Sure it can! It's either it stops moving or the Immovable object is moved from place (the former looks more plausible). You can't shove a particular idea down my throat because in the first place, an unstoppable object and an immovable object would NEVER exist in the same universe! If not, a paradox is created! So bringing that object to a halt is my own way of providing an escape route for the question to be answered.

Exactly the crux of the question, what do you think happens in reality (which can be observed) when they cancel each other out ?

A blackhole is created?!

RobinHez:

Oh.. Sure it can! It's either it stops moving or the Immovable object is moved from place (the former looks more plausible). You can't shove a particular idea down my throat because in the first place, an unstoppable object and an immovable object would NEVER exist in the same universe! If not, a paradox is created! So bringing that object to a halt is my own way of providing an escape route for the question to be answered.

You seem unable to grasp this, unstoppable hits immovable. BTW this is not a paradox, it is a 'thought experiment' no one is forcing you to partake in, so how has it been shoved down your throat ?

RobinHez:
A blackhole is created?!

This has nothing to do with... nor is it connected with the phenomena called 'Black Hole'.

samted:

I choose not to. unfortunately, such beliefs have been embedded in my subconscious from my early years... so I guess a part of me still believes in such nonsense.

What's the relationship?

You chose not to believe in the existence and or efficacy of what you regard as "such nonsense" presumably on the grounds they are scientifically implausible and yet you still allow it to be embedded in you without shedding it off as you become scientifically enlightened with age. Well, I'd wanted to know what your thought is regarding an unusual idea but the 'split-brain' syndrome now makes it difficult for me to construct the off-topic question I initially wanted to ask you given the way you tackled the OP.

Only ONE thing can happen, ABSOLUTE NEUTRALIZATION. Which obviously will lead to a MASSIVE EXPLOSION with a complete WIPING out of both entities from exsistence!

seunot:
Only ONE thing can happen, ABSOLUTE NEUTRALIZATION. Which obviously will lead to a MASSIVE EXPLOSION with a complete WIPING out of both entities from exsistence!

Best answer.

Hmmmm......... Methinks an explosion will occur. A massive, massive explosion where the matter (unmovable object) is converted to energy.






But wait, this thought experiment is paradoxical.

samted:
when an unstoppable force hits an immovable object...
well, the unstoppable force simple bounces off the immovable object and goes the other way...in its unstoppable fashion. while the immovable object remains immovable.

pray do tell...which came first? the chicken or the egg?

Epic.


And yes, the egg came first

ghostofsparta:
You seem unable to grasp this, unstoppable hits immovable. BTW this is not a paradox, it is a 'thought experiment' no one is forcing you to partake in, so how has it been shoved down your throat ?

Sigh...

This has nothing to do with... nor is it connected with the phenomena called 'Black Hole'.

Chill, that was a joke, u could tell from the smiley

SirWere:




But wait, this thought experiment is paradoxical .

Exactly!

Just like the spear which can penetrate any shield, and the shield which can withstand any spear.

RobinHez:

Exactly!

Just like the spear which can penetrate any shield, and the shield which can withstand any spear.

Yeah........ I guess that's the point of thought experiments though.... There is no right answer. More like bringing philosophy into physics

SirWere:
Yeah........ I guess that's the point of thought experiments though.... There is no right answer. More like bringing philosophy into physics

so what's the use, if from the start we know there's no right answer?

Three possibilities

1. They both combine and move at a slower speed (half the speed of unstoppable force)
after collision.
2. They explode on collision, producing scattered particles travelling at different velocities.

3. The unstoppable force changes direction after collision.

#2 is the most likely to occur.

RobinHez:
so what's the use, if from the start we know there's no right answer?

Meh, I think it's like a puzzle. You know, a way for physicists to relax the subject that has been considered uptight.

ghostofsparta:


You chose not to believe in the existence and or efficacy of what you regard as "such nonsense" presumably on the grounds they are scientifically implausible and yet you still allow it to be embedded in you without shedding it off as you become scientifically enlightened with age. Well, I'd wanted to know what your thought is regarding an unusual idea but the 'split-brain' syndrome now makes it difficult for me to construct the off-topic question I initially wanted to ask you given the way you tackled the OP.

getting rid of ideas which have been embedded in the subconscious is a process. it's not just a decision.