raumdeuter:


Puskas was probably the only decent player in his country for several years Same with Best. Even right now how many Northern ireland players play in top leagues?

but England. The home of football cant buy a final in 50yrs

In 2months time we should celebrate half a century of barrenness what a shame. Even Greece, Czech don win but England rara oo

While they are showing us pllayers making Team of the year

Puskas was the ONLY DECENT player in a team that went undefeated for about 5years, reached a World Cup final and won Olympic Gold?
why not doubt puskas since his country has failed to produce great players since? Why is it only Charlton and other great English players of the past that u can doubt?
Or have Northern Ireland and Hungary been banned from producing great players since?
Why can't u just admit that the same way Hungary once had great players that got things done, England has also had great players.
The quality of players from decades ago does not affect the quality of current players.
The greatness of Banks,Moore,Charlton has been validated by their titles,awards and several several sources but you will come with your logic and say because Hart,Cahill and Wilshere are not great then Banks,Moore and Charlton could not have been great. It makes no sense

Why not doubt Lev Yashin too? After all Russia has stopped producing great teams.

Y'all shouldn't start this Terry-Boateng argument on this thread - it'll lead to nowhere. Dayo NEVER accepts his wrongs. So it's a waste of time.

When he's comparing Boateng to EPL defenders he uses UEFA and FIFA nominations and awards to taunt them, but when Terry comes into the scene, like an artful dodger he brings up one of the dumbest reasons known to mankind, BEASTING A WC FINAL to rate him over Terry. Haven't y'all asked yourself why he shifts the post when Terry is involved? Coz both in UEFA and FIFA awards and nominations, Terry shits on Boateng. Coz he knows the relationship Terry can ever have with Boateng is a master(Terry)-slave(Boateng) kind. So like the cunning shape shifter he is, he formulates a new benchmark to defeat Terry. And if you are not wise he'll lure you into his lair and keep wasting your time with it. He never accepts his gaffes so expecting him to accept the truth is akin to teaching a lion how to read and write - it's IMPOSSIBLE!!

If UEFA and FIFA whose opinions matters most recognizes Terry over Boateng, how does one person's opinion count more?

If players, coaches and seasoned football pundits rates Terry over Boateng, why bother over an inconsequential view of Dayo against Terry?

If EVERY poll carried out ANYWHERE CREDIBLE (including in Germany) will see Terry disgrace Boateng, who gives a fúck about just one SINGLE opinion?


Fans across all divides even on this forum rates Terry over Boateng, so what the hell are we bothering ourselves over Dayo's opposite opinion?

Allow him to console himself with the trashy ranking of Boateng over Terry, it changes not the truth that Boateng is not fit enough to tie Terry's shoe lace!!


When next you want to argue this Terry-Boateng balderdash, remember that by Dayo's absurd benchmark and views:

1. Boateng is better than Madini and all the defenders that didn't beast a WC final.

2. Rivaldo and Goetze (Man of the Match at the last WC) are waayyyy better than Puskas that didn't beast a WC final.

3. Littbarski is better than Bobby Charlton


When you see the stupidity, hilarity and depravity emanating from such reasoning, you'd know where to move the argument to - Comedy Central or Jeff Durham's Show. The Kagawa dude has given us enough comedy to last us for a month, let's not allow Dayo give us migrane on top of it. Put an end to the Terry-Boateng argument. We all know who's the beast amongst the two.

sinizia:
Y'all shouldn't start this Terry-Boateng argument on this thread - it'll lead to nowhere. Dayo NEVER accepts his wrongs. So it's a waste of time.

When he's comparing Boateng to EPL defenders he uses UEFA and FIFA nominations and awards to taunt them, but when Terry comes into the scene, like an artful dodger he brings up one of the dumbest reasons known to mankind, BEASTING A WC FINAL to rate him over Terry. Haven't y'all asked yourself why he shifts the post when Terry is involved? Coz both in UEFA and FIFA awards and nominations, Terry shits on Boateng. Coz he knows the relationship Terry can ever have with Boateng is a master(Terry)-slave(Boateng) kind. So like the cunning shape shifter he is, he formulates a new benchmark to defeat Terry. And if you are not wise he'll lure you into his lair and keep wasting your time with it. He never accepts his gaffes so expecting him to accept the truth is akin to teaching a lion how to read and write - it's IMPOSSIBLE!!

If UEFA and FIFA whose opinions matters most recognizes Terry over Boateng, how does one person's opinion count more?

If players, coaches and seasoned football pundits rates Terry over Boateng, why bother over an inconsequential view of Dayo against Terry?

If EVERY poll carried out ANYWHERE CREDIBLE (including in Germany) will see Terry disgrace Boateng, who gives a fúck about just one SINGLE opinion?


Fans across all divides even on this forum rates Terry over Boateng, so what the hell are we bothering ourselves over Dayo's opposite opinion?

Allow him to console himself with the trashy ranking of Boateng over Terry, it changes not the truth that Boateng is not fit enough to tie Terry's shoe lace!!


When next you want to argue this Terry-Boateng balderdash, remember that by Dayo's absurd benchmark and views:

1. Boateng is better than Madini and all the defenders that didn't beast a WC final.

2. Rivaldo and Goetze (Man of the Match at the last WC) are waayyyy better than Puskas that didn't beast a WC final.

3. Littbarski is better than Bobby Charlton


When you see the stupidity, hilarity and depravity emanating from such reasoning, you'd know where to move the argument to - Comedy Central or Jeff Durham's Show. The Kagawa dude has given us enough comedy to last us for a month, let's not allow Dayo give us migrane on top of it. Put an end to the Terry-Boateng argument. We all know who's the beast amongst the two.

sinizia:
Y'all shouldn't start this Terry-Boateng argument on this thread - it'll lead to nowhere. Dayo NEVER accepts his wrongs. So it's a waste of time.

When he's comparing Boateng to EPL defenders he uses UEFA and FIFA nominations and awards to taunt them, but when Terry comes into the scene,

Boateng vs ALL EPL defenders - Show me any EPL defender that has has beasted a CL and a world cup final

Boateng vs Terry show me Terry's performance in a CL and a World cup final

Note both comparison are performances in big games

1 . You are wrong Maldini beasted a world cup final, He almost single handedly stopped the Brazilians from scoring in 1994 before Baresi and Baggio threw away his hard work. Beasted multiple CL finals but you wont do your research properly

2. You are wrong again. Puskas beasted a world cup final and a CL final he scored 2 goals in a world cup final 1 was disallowed. He scored 4 goals in a CL final. WHen you try to make analogies at least try dey reason am through not with falsehood and half baked facts.

3. Bobby Charlton performance in the CL final of 1968 might make me change my opinion about him despite his cluelessness in the 19666 world cup final but that beats Littbarky's performance in the world cup final of 1990

afrodoc2:


Puskas was the ONLY DECENT player in a team that went undefeated for about 5years, reached a World Cup final and won Olympic Gold?
why not doubt puskas since his country has failed to produce great players since? Why is it only Charlton and other great English players of the past that u can doubt?
Or have Northern Ireland and Hungary been banned from producing great players since?
Why can't u just admit that the same way Hungary once had great players that got things done, England has also had great players.
The quality of players from decades ago does not affect the quality of current players.
The greatness of Banks,Moore,Charlton has been validated by their titles,awards and several several sources but you will come with your logic and say because Hart,Cahill and Wilshere are not great then Banks,Moore and Charlton could not have been great. It makes no sense

Why not doubt Lev Yashin too? After all Russia has stopped producing great teams.

Every English player has to be doubted since the press told us the set from2002 to 2010 were filled with stars yet we dont see them delivering anything for a whole decade.

If one didnt watch you would think Cole was better than Lahm, Gerrard was better than Schweinsteiger, Rooney was better than Muller Terry was better than Boateng and Rio was better than Efe Sodje.

afrodoc2:


My argument is that John Terry in his prime was miles miles and miles better than Alago of life.
Despite playing in a dominant team fans,analysts and players have come together to confirm Boateng as Sh..t worthy only of 3rd team.
The difference between Terry and Boateng is like the difference between death and sleep, like the difference between Di Caprio and Ramsey Nouah. If they were drug lords then Terry would be El Chapo and Boateng would be Akindele Ile eru.

kai...some pipo get bad mouth oo

BOATENG?


1: Man city disaster?


2:Messi's main _bitch?


3:Globally embarrassed on live tv during the champions league


4:The one that plays in a piss poor one team league?


Better than TERRY?



Abeg this una "ram" should be sent to a slaughter house for such jogo blasphemy!

raumdeuter:


Every English player has to be doubted since the press told us the set from2002 to 2010 were filled with stars yet we dont see them delivering anything for a whole decade.

If one didnt watch you would think Cole was better than Lahm, Gerrard was better than Schweinsteiger, Rooney was better than Muller Terry was better than Boateng and Rio was better than Efe Sodje.

Quit the sarcasm and tell us how Schweinsteiger was better than Gerrard.

Dadehmola:


Quit the sarcasm and tell us how Schweinsteiger was better than Gerrard.

Gerrard is actually an average footballer. Whose career focuses on some highlight moment. he lacked positional discipline has poor control but he has a lot of energy and spirit

peak Schweinsteiger >>> Peak Gerrard. FACT

World cup Final Schweinsteiger >>> Anything any of Gerrard countryman has done in 50yrs FACT

raumdeuter:


Gerrard is actually an average footballer. Whose career focuses on some highlight moment. he lacked positional discipline has poor control but he has a lot of energy and spirit

peak Schweinsteiger >>> Peak Gerrard. FACT

World cup Final Schweinsteiger >>> Anything any of Gerrard countryman has done in 50yrs FACT

I agree, Gerrard is average

raumdeuter:


Gerrard is actually an average footballer. Whose career focuses on some highlight moment. he lacked positional discipline has poor control but he has a lot of energy and spirit

peak Schweinsteiger >>> Peak Gerrard. FACT

World cup Final Schweinsteiger >>> Anything any of Gerrard countryman has done in 50yrs FACT

This your septic-TANK argument is making you spew so much nonsense, Egbon....

Ballon d'Or Bronze Award: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005

UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2005 (This was emboldened for you, mr "beast- final" )

How can an average player achieve the aforementioned honours??

Even if you go dey downgrade English players, dey reason am properly oga.

Dadehmola:


This your septic-TANK argument is making you spew so much nonsense, Egbon....

Ballon d'Or Bronze Award: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005

UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2005 (This was emboldened for you, mr "beast- final" )

How can an average player achieve the aforementioned honours??

Even if you go dey downgrade English players, dey reason am properly oga.

Thats why people need to watch the game, Hint they dont show football on wiki. Whats the purpose of watching football, Just go to wiki and copy whatever is written there

Watch the game



These popularity awards dont tell how mediocre gerrard is. I am sure I have written extensively about Gerrard and his average football IQ on this forum

1. What is Gerrards best football position?

2. If I list the number of games Gerrard has ruined the number of bad passes he has made that failed his team. At his peak benitez had to move him away from midfield because he was a disaster a calamity

Euro 2004. Gerrard passes to henry which led to a Penalty against his team
Few months later Gerrard made the same type of pass to henry vs Arsenal and lost his team the game
EPL 2010, Gerrard gave a pass to Drogba which lost the game and won Chelsea the league

I can name 5 key errors Gerrard made in top games

If you watch football for those Roy of the Rover highlight moment then Gerrard is your man

raumdeuter:


Thats why people need to watch the game, Hint they dont show football on wiki.

Watch the game

I guess the managers,fellow players, journalists and UEFA/FIFA analysts who voted for him on numerous occassions didnt watch him play too.

Go and lie down abeg - you no get point as usual!

Dadehmola:


I guess the managers,fellow players, journalists and UEFA/FIFA analysts who voted for him on numerous occassions didnt watch him play too.

Go and lie down abeg - you no get point as usual!

I cant be educating you every 3 months

Go and read the below to educate yourself

Ibime:


Gerrard was a disgrace in the Euros end of. Still play CM? What part of CM was he playing? The guy was outclassed in every single game he played, his long balls were excruciating to watch. Even with 3 assists, he didnt smell team of tournament and fans of Goal.com were complaining after the group stage that he wasnt in the top 25 players according to goal.com ranking which avera

coogar:

gerrard cannot play as a cm....his ineptitude caused england's loss and to think an ageing pirlo played him
off the park speaks volume. i do not think lampard
would have done better as well---the 2 dinosaurs are
past their expiry dates and should not be mentioned
in the same breath with world class midfield maestros.

Sauron1:


Gerrard is the reason Liverpool have not won a league title.
He is consistently useless.

Ibime:

Is Gerrard even a midfielder?

No Xabi Alonso, no Liverpool. Gerrard cant even control his midfield. Eeediot!!!

When it comes to passing, assisting, scoring, ground covered, tackling, dictating the midfield etc. . . . Lampard >>>>>> Gerrard

Gerrard is not a midfielder abeg. He is a forward. He lacks technical and positional sense to play midfield. When was the last time he played midfield for Liverpool? 5 years ago? This is the crux of the Gerrard/Lampard debate. Gerrard has no business trying to claim Lampards spot. He should be focusing on Wayne Rooney's position cos thats where he is truly great - as a second striker. As a midfielder? Meh. Lacking in too many departments!

Now watch this clip


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYHggzKlAi4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

raumdeuter:


Thats why people need to watch the game, Hint they dont show football on wiki. Whats the purpose of watching football, Just go to wiki and copy whatever is written there

Watch the game



These popularity awards dont tell how mediocre gerrard is. I am sure I have written extensively about Gerrard and his average football IQ on this forum

The same awards you used to rate Neuer Over DDG a few hours ago?? And you want to be taken seriously on this forum??

Since your writtens contradict the basic metrics by which worldclass players are rated, you can shove them up your....

raumdeuter:


1. What is Gerrards best football position?

Gerard was a creative and versatile box-to-box Midfielder who seamlessly fitted into some other positions when circumstances demanded.

raumdeuter:

[s]Euro 2004. Gerrard passes to henry which led to a Penalty against his team
Few months later Gerrard made the same type of pass to henry vs Arsenal and lost his team the game
EPL 2010, Gerrard gave a pass to Drogba which lost the game and won Chelsea the league

I can name 5 key errors Gerrard made in top games [/s]

He was the official MOTM in a UCL final - stop boring us with irrelevant Epistles oga.

He has "beasted" at the biggest stage of European club football.

If any German midfielder has done that in the last 20 years, kindly educate us.

raumdeuter:

If you watch football for those Roy of the Rover highlight moment then Gerrard is your man

I guess the managers,fellow players, journalists and UEFA/FIFA analysts who voted for him on numerous occassions watched highlights too.

Go and lie down abeg - you no get point as usual!

Lol...Dayo still wasting Cyberspace with his rickety pendulum trademark!!!

If RamuGea was an element, he would be one with unstable nucleus!!

raumdeuter:


I cant be educating you every 3 months

Go and read the below to educate yourself











Now watch this clip


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYHggzKlAi4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

if Coogar and Ibime's posts constitute the verses in your soccer bible, too bad!!

dont lemme have to do this again...

Ancellotti:

Steven Gerrard is undoubtedly one of the best midfield players in the world," said Ancelotti. "Of course any top club would want him in their side.

Mourihno:

He (Gerrard) is a historical player for Liverpool, a historical player for the Premier League and an opponent I have always admired and respected.We did everything to try (to sign him) and it was almost there. I was dreaming of (Claude) Makelele, Gerrard and (Frank) Lampard in midfield.

Pele:

To me he is one of the super best midfielders in the world. He is an excellent player.

Maldini:

“I think Steven has been and is an absolutely complete player, because he had personality, technique, he could set the play and also defend, and he could score goals – penalty-kicks, free-kicks. So really a modern, complete player.”

Zidane (2009):

Is he the best in the world? He might not get the attention of Messi and Ronaldo but yes, I think he just might be.“There was a point when Gerrard was the best midfield player in the world. It is unusual to get complete midfield players who can do everything, but that is what he was.”

Pirlo:

“While at Milan he (Ancelotti) came to me and said “I want to sign Steven Gerrard to play next to you in midfield – what do you think?” Without any hesitation I told him “do it – go and sign him”. At this stage he was probably the most complete midfield player in Europe, of course I wanted to partner him.

Dadehmola:


The same awards you used to rate Neuer Over DDG a few hours ago?? And you want to be taken seriously on this forum??

Since your writtens contradict the basic metrics by which worldclass players are rated, you can shove them up your....

Stay focused and pay attention. My first post on DDG vs Neuer was this

raumdeuter:


How many years later Manuel Neuer is better than de gea

Manuel Neuer has gone to win the world cup and the CL

I did not bring in ranking and award until you guys brought it up. FOCUS

Gerard was a creative and versatile box-to-box Midfielder who seamlessly fitted into some other positions when circumstances demanded.
He was the official MOTM in a UCL final - stop boring us with irrelevant Epistles oga.He has "beasted" at the biggest stage of European club football.

Schweinsteiger has done the same at the BIGGEST STAGE of world football. Beat that!!!

If any German midfielder has done that in the last 20 years, kindly educate us.
I guess the managers,fellow players, journalists and UEFA/FIFA analysts who voted for him on numerous occassions watched highlights too.
Go and lie down abeg - you no get point as usual!

In the past 20yrs German midfielders have won the world cup, won the Euro cup Won the CL. I am sure English midfielders wish they can say the same

Dadehmola:


if Coogar and Ibime's posts constitute the verses in your soccer bible, too bad!!

dont lemme have to do this again...

Do you want me to quote what people have said about Schweinsteiger? People can say anything. What doesnt lie is the trophies you win and your performance on the field


Show us Gerrards world cup

raumdeuter:


Stay focused and pay attention. My first post on DDG vs Neuer was this



I did not bring in ranking and award until you guys brought it up. FOCUS

..and you supported your arguments with the rankings, didnt you??

raumdeuter:

Schweinsteiger has done the same at the BIGGEST STAGE of world football. Beat that!!!

Dadehmola:

Gerard was a creative and versatile box-to-box Midfielder who seamlessly fitted into some other positions when circumstances demanded.
He was the official MOTM in a UCL final - stop boring us with irrelevant Epistles oga.He has "beasted" at the biggest stage of European club football.

Pay attention to the emboldened, would you??

raumdeuter:

[s]In the past 20yrs German midfielders have won the world cup, won the Euro cup Won the CL. I am sure English midfielders wish they can say the same[/s]

Dadehmola:

He was the official MOTM in a UCL final - stop boring us with irrelevant Epistles oga.He has "beasted" at the biggest stage of European club football.
If any German midfielder has done that in the last 20 years, kindly educate us.

Oya Mention Goetze na...

raumdeuter:


[s]Do you want me to quote what people have said about Schweinsteiger? People can say anything. What doesnt lie is the trophies you win and your performance on the field
Show us Gerrards world cup[/s]

show us a German Midfielder (in the last 20years) beasting a major final the way Gerrard did in 2005.

Dadehmola:

..and you supported your arguments with the rankings, didnt you??

Your people brought the ranking argument, i didnt thats why I told you to focus.

show us a German Midfielder (in the last 20years) beasting a major final the way Gerrard did in 2005.

Bastian Schweinsteiger World cup 2014

raumdeuter:


Your people brought the ranking argument, i didnt thats why I told you to focus.

Why should I focus on an argument that suggests Valdes is arguably the greatest Goalkeeper in the History of the UCL (by virtue of his 3 medals in that competition? )

oga, individual achievements ni koko!!

raumdeuter:

Bastian Schweinsteiger World cup 2014

Show us his official MOTM award and his ballon d'or nomination

What's all this arguement pls ...
From Neuer vs DDG ....to..... Terry vs Boateng( who does this ) .....it's now.....Gerrard vs Schweini... smh... which one's next ....

Dadehmola:


Why should I focus on an argument that suggests Valdes is arguably the greatest Goalkeeper in the History of the UCL (by virtue of his 3 medals in that competition? )

Was valdes one of the top 3 performers for his team in any of those finals

oga, individual achievements ni koko!!

The purpose of football is to win a trophy for your team not individual achievement. Schweinsteiger achieved that at the biggest stage of the Sport. gerrard nko? voicemail

Show us his official MOTM award and his ballon d'or nomination

I am sure any footballer would take the OFFICIAL world cup trophy over any of those official frivolities

fredoooooo:


Na juju and drugs una dey use

FREDOOOOOOOOO .........No think say I no see you for Barca thread o ....I wan reply but sleep carry me go.. Useless pikin

raumdeuter:


Was valdes one of the top 3 performers for his team in any of those finals

No be you dey do "Operation-show-me-your-trophy"??

Gerard was a top performer at the UCL final, so what exactly is your point??

raumdeuter:

The purpose of football is to win a trophy for your team not individual achievement. Schweinsteiger achieved that at the biggest stage of the Sport. gerrard nko? voicemail

Valdes won the UCL 3 times..

By your Logic, he should be celebrated at the next UEFA awards.

afrodoc2:


When I talk of Anglophobia I am talking of you saying Littbarski whose only individual award was Bundesliga goal of the year 1985 was a better player than Bobby Charlton who won the 1966 Ballon d'or and was 2nd in 1967 and 1968, was FIFA World Cup player of the tournament in 1966 and also made the team of the tournament in 1970, then made the FIFA World Cup All Time Team.

THAT is what I mean by Anglophobia.

....All Hail Sabine Lisicki

raumdeuter:

If one didnt watch you would think Cole was better than Lahm, Gerrard was better than Schweinsteiger, Rooney was better than Muller Terry was better than Boateng and Rio was better than Efe Sodje.

.......Werey

To find the last time the Nazis had a Central Defender as good as Rio, You'll have to go as far back as to the days of Jurgen Kohler and Sammer.

chic2pimp:


.......Werey

To find the last time the Nazis had a Central Defender as good as Rio, You'll have to go as far back as to the days of Jurgen Kohler and Sammer.

chic2pimp:
.......Werey

To find the last time the Nazis had a Central Defender as good as Rio, You'll have to go as far back as to the days of Jurgen Kohler and Sammer.

Rio wo? Rio carnival? Rio ko mario ni

Dadehmola:
No be you dey do "Operation-show-me-your-trophy"??
Gerard was a top performer at the UCL final, so what exactly is your point??

Schweinsteiger was one of the top performers in the World cup final, Can Valdez say the same? Thats why I say FOCUS

Valdes won the UCL 3 times..

By your Logic, he should be celebrated at the next UEFA awards.

What was his contribution to the 3 CL wins? wasnt he just a mascot like Rio Ferdinand was? Thats still better than what Terry contributes in the finals because that one and finals na word and opposite

GloryIsaac:
What's all this arguement pls ...
From Neuer vs DDG ....to..... Terry vs Boateng( who does this ) .....it's now.....Gerrard vs Schweini... smh... which one's next ....

Garba Lawal vs Edgar Davids