bigkesh:

When he was sacked you were screaming here after every matchday that mourinho was the problem and the players are playing to prove him wrong and they will show him they can do it without him.........
So now,kini ejo radarada!
The players have finally showed their level and you are still saying Mou is the problem.......


Since Mou was the problem,why haven't we seen any improvement?
Shift it as usual

ANyone who hasnt seen improvements in points gathered is either blind or retarddedd.

How many points did you get in the league under Mourinho in 16 games

Now Hiddink has played exactly 16 games how many points do you have?

I hope either you or GBR1 would have the guts for the first time in a long time to give us the facts

Points won under Mourinho in 16 league games, Point won under Hiddink in 16 league games

Ibime:


This is one Chelsea fan who begs to differ. You can dig up my records. I have never been crazy about Hazard, whilst I have had nothing but praise for De Bruyne.

Did you watch Bundesliga in 2013? How would you know De Bruynes quality then? Your experience of DeBruyne then is watching him 10 mins here and there. Don't label me with your experience of him . I process a whole load of information when watching football, for example I hated Oscar since 2012 years before ninjas clocked how useless he was. The same nonsense you notice now, I noticed as soon as he joined the club. Also I understood how detrimental Mata was to our stability and wanted him out right from 2011 when he was the darling of the club. Also I let niggas know just how limited Ramires was right from time, even when Ramires was the darling of Chelsea. Not to blow my horn, but don't label all fans with the same brush. I've never been crazy about Hazard, though he's OK for me whilst I've been a superfan of KDB since 2013.

KDB epitomises what I like in a midfielder - first time passes, vision, straight making assists and goal attempts without taking too many touches. I don't like attacking midfielders who caress the ball too much before passing. He fits my profile perfectly. Call it the luck of having Bundesliga on ESPN back then, but I was well aware of his talents 3 years ago.

well, let me term it your opinion. You love his style of play doesn't mean he is beta than other players you don't like their style of play.
I know what hazard brings to the table when he plays.
Now i knw why u term iniesta "unproductive".

raumdeuter:


ANyone who hasnt seen improvements in points gathered is either blind or retarddedd.

How many points did you get in the league under Mourinho in 16 games

Now Hiddink has played exactly 16 games how many points do you have?

I hope either you or GBR1 would have the guts for the first time in a long time to give us the facts

Points won under Mourinho in 16 league games, Point won under Hiddink in 16 league games

Ramuzaki - your attention is needed at the Barca thread.

#Sergiobusquets#

raumdeuter:


Like Ibime said some of you were short sighted. I didnt wait till this season to call Hazard a fraud and its well documented here. I saw KdBruyne at Bremen I saw him as a guy with potential definitely better than Oscar.

Kevin debriyne won the young player of the year in the bundesliga in the 2012/13 season so claiming no one saw KdB is false maybe among football novices like yourself. But Ibime has been shouting KdB here for like 3years

ibime did nt say hazard is a fraud. Hazard is a fraud, yet he has bn winning individual awards since he started to play professional football.

We no dy use you judge. No be wey talk say boateng beta pass football legend like terry.

Greatihex:
well, let me term it your opinion. You love his style of play doesn't mean he is beta than other players you don't like their style of play.
I know what hazard brings to the table when he plays.
Now i knw why u term iniesta "unproductive".

Everything Hazard brings to the table KdB brings double

For an attacking midfielder like Hazard nothing matters more than goals and assists. Hazard every day is average at these. I was yelling it on the top of my voice last season even when he was winning PFA award

Dribbling only impresses amateurs, The day Ronaldo realized this is when he became a machine

Greatihex:
ibime did nt say hazard is a fraud. Hazard is a fraud, yet he has bn winning individual awards since he started to play professional football.

We no dy use you judge. No be wey talk say boateng beta pass football legend like terry.

When I called Hazard a fraud over a year ago, you all wanted to riot, today half of those people who shouted are now saying the same thing

When in 2013 I said Boateng was better than Cahill people shouted later they agreed, when I said Boateng was better than Kompany same happened. I am telling you that Boateng currently is better that Terry was ever in his entire career

The same way I called out Yaya Toure as a fake local bully and irrelevant in Europe people are now chorusing the same thing On ESPN this week they were saying Yaya missing the PSG series was a blessing in disguise

What I see today, It would take a decade for below average analysts like you to realize it

Ibime:


Schurrle, Salah and Cuadrado are actually workhorses.

That has nothing to do with it.

Dont assume because Jose got rid of Mata that he can't carry De Bruyne. Matas own case of laziness and physical deficiency is that of a 12 year old boy playing with grown men.

The same Jose that carried Ozil for 3 years in Spain will carry De Bruyne easily.

The funny thing is De Bruyne is actually hardworking. Don't let the debate in the press deceive you.

The situation at Chelsea then was extraordinary in that Chelsea had a nonexistent midfield and Jose had to get the wingers to cover their part of the job.

Only a foolish manager would play Hazard, Mata and DeBruhne ontop midfield of Lampard and Ramires (our starting DMs at the time). The disbalance in the midfield caused Jose to play Schurrle almost every time at the start.

So there are many political, financial and tactical reasons why De Bruyne would not start matches straightaway.

It is nothing for Jose to play DeBruyne when he plays Ozil and Ronaldo in the same midfield.

i don't knw why u guys keep saying that kevin was nt played straight away. Kevin started mou's first three matches at his return. He simply didn't satisfy mou with those three starts.
The players i remember mou did nt do very well in letting to go are, salah and lukaku.

raumdeuter:


Everything Hazard brings to the table KdB brings double

For an attacking midfielder like Hazard nothing matters more than goals and assists. Hazard every day is average at these. I was yelling it on the top of my voice last season even when he was winning PFA award

Dribbling only impresses amateurs, The day Ronaldo realized this is when he became a machine

so you are saying that the more than 400 players that voted for hazard as best player in both the epl and ligue 1 are amateurs in the game? That is, you knw beta than them?

Greatihex:
i don't knw why u guys keep saying that kevin was nt played straight away. Kevin started mou's first three matches at his return. He simply didn't satisfy mou with those three starts.
The players i remember mou did nt do very well in letting to go are, salah and lukaku.

De Bruyne played very well in his first 3 games. We scored 2 wins and a draw away at Old Trafford.

After that Willian was signed at the end of August, and Schurrle, Mata and co gained full fitness and took priority over him.

The only match they claim he played rubbish (which I didn't watch) was Swindon match.

For example, below is the aggregate player rating for our 1st match vs Hull (Aggregate of all the British newspapers Player ratings)

bigkesh:

We all saw it,didn't we?
Schurrle was average,Willian was clearly better
Salah was just doing rubbish
Cuadrado that was going down more than the naira
As you already said KDB was playing Shit
For those 6months Oscar was clearly better than Mata,I can recall 3 games which Mata started,played trash,Oscar came in and scored.......

Willian and Azpi weren't starters in the beginning,they fought to earn a place....
KDB didn't want to fight for anything.......

I regret losing him though

exactly! I dont knw why they now talk as if they were nt watching chelsea matches then.

Ibime:


In that case Jose should have no problem with De Bruyne because De Bruyne doesn't like to dribble.

DeBruynes game is first time everything - first time pass, first time cross. If he dribbles, its only to create space quickly for pass or cross.

this is exactly kevin's style of play. Bt, it has its shortcomings and you knw them. That kind of football does nt give u possession. Just like trial and error footbal.

Nihilist:


I don't think Willian has ever been better than Schurrle, though I agree that Cuadrado was crap.

But what we're discussing, or rather what I'm discussing here is whether Jose was directly responsible for KDB's departure

I don't think it's a coincidence that we has only 2 artists in our team last season.

willian is beta than schurlle, and wl always be. Schurlle is always busy looking for goals without wanting to do the basics and doing what leads to the goal. He keeps wasting half chances and opportunities in search of personal glories; present ronaldo type of player, though ronaldo has perfected his goal scoring.

Greatihex:
so you are saying that the more than 400 players that voted for hazard as best player in both the epl and ligue 1 are amateurs in the game? That is, you knw beta than them?

The EPL has been poor for the past few years who did Hazard compete againstt? rookie Harry Kane and Coutinho

This year who are the contenders? Payet, Mahrez and Kante and Vardy. On a good day those a grade 4 players in the world of football

Players who 2 yrs ago were mainly playing in lower divisions

Thats why when its time for Balon D or you wont see any EPL player there

Ibime:


De Bruyne played very well in his first 3 games. We scored 2 wins and a draw away at Old Trafford.

After that Willian was signed at the end of August, and Schurrle, Mata and co gained full fitness and took priority over him.

The only match they claim he played rubbish (which I didn't watch) was Swindon match.

For example, below is the aggregate player rating for our 1st match vs Hull (Aggregate of all the British newspapers Player ratings)

how can a player play very well and yet be benched. It does nt add up. Though kevin was hardworking, bt his poor ball retention and his aimless crosses,passes and volleys are what let him down.

raumdeuter:


The EPL has been poor for the past few years who did Hazard compete againstt? rookie Harry Kane and Coutinho

This year who are the contenders? Payet, Mahrez and Kante and Vardy. On a good day those a grade 4 players in the world of football

Players who 2 yrs ago were mainly playing in lower divisions

Thats why when its time for Balon D or you wont see any EPL player there

blundersliga player of the year go stil follow vote the epl average players. The epl average players stil send the world class dortmund players packing from d europa.

diggz:


Oga nateevs I see ur name naim I rush make I come read ur take on the whooping we got from mcity, just to see Jamie vardy

U don jump ship

I no see am blame jare. If Your team aint winning you have to Find a neutral one that is winning in order to keep Ur spirit happy and prevent high Bp

Greatihex:
blundersliga player of the year go stil follow vote the epl average players. The epl average players stil send the world class dortmund players packing from d europa.

Whats the meaning of this gibberish you wrote

When was the last time an EPL player made Balon d or top 5? DId Dortmund not send Tottenham packing some weeks ago from the same Europa?

Greatihex:
how can a player play very well and yet be benched. It does nt add up. Though kevin was hardworking, bt his poor ball retention and his aimless crosses,passes and volleys are what let him down.

He got benched because:

(a.) Willian was signed at the end of August for £32m (not Mourinhos signing but he was expected to make the Willian signing work)

(b.) Mata who had returned late from Confederations cup got up to full fitness - the 2 time club player of the year.

(c.) Schurrle the £18m signing who had had an illness in July reurned to full fitness.


So DeBruyne wasn't dropped. He returned to his rightful place in the pecking order which was always the squad plan for the 'small boy' by Emenalo. These multimillion signings were always planned ahead of him in the pecking order as well as MaZaCar who were already first choice. He had played very well in his first 3 games.

raumdeuter:


When was the last time an EPL player made Balon d or top 5? DId Dortmund not send Tottenham packing some weeks ago from the same Europa?

A German player or even a player who plied his trade in the Bundesliga has not won the Ballon d'or in over 18 years. You used a poor analogy.

Dortmund basically played a Spurs' B team (i have proof) because Tottenham rested a lot of their major players and didn't take much interest in the fixtures because they were still competing for the EPL title, and i think the results could have been different if spurs didn't do so considering the way Liverpool handled Dortmund. Dortmund got exposed when they faced Liverpool placed 8th in the PL and who can't even get into top 4.

Now here's the fun part; Do you even know how many players Dortmund rested in their important league fixture against Schalke simply because they wanted to beat Liverpool in the 2nd leg?

They failed miserably.

GBR1:

Dortmund basically played a Spurs' B team (i have proof) because they rested a lot of their major players and didn't take much interest in the fixtures because they are still competing for the EPL, and i think the results could have been different if spurs didn't do so considering the way Liverpool handled Dortmund. Dortmund got exposed when they faced Liverpool placed 8th in the PL and who can't even get into top 4.

Now here's the fun part; Do you even know how many players Dortmund rested in their important league fixture against Schalke because they wanted to beat Liverpool in the 2nd leg?

We all know how that went.

How did Liverpool handle Dortmund? with 1 min to go in regulation time, Liverpool was heading out of the tournament and have been second best for most of the game in Anfield.

Did the tie not end 5-4 on aggregates? Or how did Liverpool handle Dortmund? Liverpool that was trailing by 2 goals for most of the game?

It only took a Dortmund meltdown to get Liverpool the win.

When your team Man Utd brought their first 11 vs Wolfsburg 8th in the Bundesliga we knew how that went.

raumdeuter:


ANyone who hasnt seen improvements in points gathered is either blind or retarddedd.

How many points did you get in the league under Mourinho in 16 games

Now Hiddink has played exactly 16 games how many points do you have?

I hope either you or GBR1 would have the guts for the first time in a long time to give us the facts

Points won under Mourinho in 16 league games, Point won under Hiddink in 16 league games

Over 2hrs later neither of bigkesh nor GBR1 could give us the stats. the points won in Mourinho 16 games vs Points won in Hiddink 16 games

Thats how to expose half baked fake analyst. Put them to a fact and stats test and they run away

And they said, although John Stones can't defend, he can pass the ball.

How about our very own homegrown John Stones?

Van Ginkel is thriving in his natural position - an attacking midfielder in a 4-3-3.

I always felt his touch was slightly loose and defensive education not complete to play in a pivot. I would be willing to give him a good crack in a 4-3-3 because I think he is a perfect 4-3-3 AM with his runs and stamina.

Ibime:
Van Ginkel is thriving in his natural position - an attacking midfielder in a 4-3-3.

I always felt his touch was slightly loose and defensive education not complete to play in a pivot. I would be willing to give him a good crack in a 4-3-3 because I think he is a perfect 4-3-3 AM with his runs and stamina.

who is a 10 in 4-2-3-1 formation, AM or CM

lordfalcao:
who is a 10 in 4-2-3-1 formation, AM or CM

the man in the middle of the '3'

lekkie073:
the man in the middle of the '3'

i know what will you call him central attacking mildfielder or Central mildfield?

Greatihex:
so you are saying that the more than 400 players that voted for hazard as best player in both the epl and ligue 1 are amateurs in the game? That is, you knw beta than them?

I tire for raumdauteur !!! The guy is a mo.ron!! An egomaniac, a melagomaniac and a narcissistic fellow. I don't know why you guys always degrade yourself by responding to his jargons just ignore for f.ucks sake!!!

Looks like we're signing Moussa Dembele from Fulham. Good move.

Dembele, Traore and Costa (or a faster no9) suits me fine as our 3 strikers for next season.

For me I don't think we need 3 strikers
Since we are not going to europe, we just need Costa and one Top striker(Dembele doesn't cut it for me) then traore to play in cup games or when the two strikers are injured.

Dongorgon5:
For me I don't think we need 3 strikers
Since we are not going to europe, we just need Costa and one Top striker(Dembele doesn't cut it for me) then traore to play in cup games or when the two strikers are injured.

Traore has proved himself as a 2nd striker as far as I'm concerned, at least the equal of Remy.

So Traore as 2nd striker and Dembele as 3rd. Both have great upside and can go on to do big things.

You don't need a plethora of strikers to be successful. This club was great for many years with just Drogba, Anelka and Kalou.

Most top clubs have just one main striker, and upcoming strikers sitting behind them.

Ibime:


Traore has proved himself as a 2nd striker as far as I'm concerned, at least the equal of Remy.

So Traore as 2nd striker and Dembele as 3rd. Both have great upside and can go on to do big things.

You don't need a plethora of strikers to be successful. This club was great for many years with just Drogba, Anelka and Kalou.

Most top clubs have just one main striker, and upcoming strikers sitting behind them.

Hmmmn
But can we fight for the title next season or at least top 4 with traore as the 2nd striker with costa injury problem(hamstring)
I believe if there is also competition, costa will drop his bad attitude knowing fully well their is a quality back up.

If the men cant do anything, d women can....

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