sukkot:
Brah, as a man you should provide shelter and the car and food. dats basic. if you provide all that and you are a strong principled man, you will not be disrespected even if she has more money. so its not an issue of providing the basics cuz any man who cant provide the basics shouldnt even get into a marriage or a relationship in the first place. A STRONG PRINCIPLED MAN WILL NEVER EVER GET INTO A RELATIONSHIP IF THEY DONT HAVE A HOUSE AND CAR BECAUSE THEY ARE PRINCIPLED AND WILL NOT PUT THEMSELVES IN SITUATIONS WHERE THEY WILL BE DISRESPECTED. SO THESE TYPES OF MEN APPROACH EVERY SITUATION WITH WELL THOUGHT OUT PLANS.

Then i see we are alike.

Make I spread mat wait. Make una tell me when he don die make I go him burial.

seguno2:


Maybe he learnt from our president.

lol nice one!!!

dammydrumz:
so much for a hurried conclusion when u don't know jack about the beginning.

Okay jazzy.

SirShymexx:


Bwahahahaha

Fam, you believe in fairy tales like Santa.

All that posturing and superficial strong/principled man crap is for the birds. Let a woman get hold of ya balls and you'll see how all that crap would jump out of the window. She'll turn you into a weakling and sissified nyggah. Just don't give them too much space and always maintain a level of control, else you'll become a victim.

Fear women, my nyggah. Personally, I don't fear anything apart from my pops and women.

[b]Dats the thing though, not every man is for sale. some mens balls are not for sale. dats the truth chief whether you choose to accept it or not. me myself ? my balls are not for sale. nobody, man or woman is getting a hold of my balls. i have walked out of high paying jobs because i see the white boy is tryna be fresh with me, and i gave him a piece of my mind on the spot, packed my bag and left. i have walked out on relationships just dead cold and never turned back cuz i see someone tryna play games with my balls. daz the kinda nigga i am. nothing in this life is indispensable. thats how principled niggas move. i am ready to drop anything at any given moment. i never hold onto any thing in life including family members that i cant cutt off ties from if i see a change in how they are acting towards me. daaz how some of us get down. anything and anybody can be disposed off at the drop of a dime. i dont hold onto anything. and when you operate like dat ? people start respecting you. its when people think you need them that they start acting crazy [/b]

sukkot:
[b]Dats the thing though, not every man is for sale. some mens balls are not for sale. dats the truth chief whether you choose to accept it or not. me myself ? my balls are not for sale. nobody, man or woman is getting a hold of my balls. i have walked out of high paying jobs because i see the white boy is tryna be fresh with me, and i gave him a piece of my mind on the spot, packed my bag and left. i have walked out on relationships just dead cold and never turned back cuz i see someone tryna play games with my balls. daz the kinda nigga i am. nothing in this life is indispensable. thats how principled niggas move. i am ready to drop anything at any given moment. i never hold onto any thing in life including family members that i cant cutt off ties from if i see a change in how they are acting towards me. daaz how some of us get down. anything and anybody can be disposed off at the drop of a dime. i dont hold onto anything. and when you operate like dat ? people start respecting you. its when people think you need them that they start acting crazy [/b]

Did you grow up almost alone ?

SirShymexx:


This guy, based on his rants, decided to take the back seat and let his wife ride him around. You can't do that as a guy. And once you do that, you've lost everything in that relationship and you'll never be able to maintain the needed control you deserve as a guy in that relationship again.

Err, I just think most people run around screaming "it's a man's world" cos men are everywhere and the societal inclinations favour men. But the real manipulative power in the world belongs to women. And once you allow women to have a feel of that power, they'll fvck over. It's just like a battle between a loud person and a silent/cunning/sly person...as someone dealing with both, it will always be in ya best interest to fear the latter cos you can easily know what the loud person is about. However, with the silent/cunning/sly person, you'll never know what the person is about and such people are the most dangerous people to deal with. So as a guy, that's the mindset you need at all times when dealing with women - just fear them cos once they get you by ya balls, it's game over.

I get what you saying but I don't quite agree it's true. If his wife is riding him, it's because he is a punk a$$, not because he's out of a job or cos she's got more money.

A woman having more money or even power, doesn't automatically mean, she rides her man. If your woman's success makes you feel powerless as a man, then you never really was powerful.

what kind of a man let's his woman ride him anyways?

Plus this Teebillz dude sounds like a whinning b1tch, so much for having two ballz.

sukkot:
[b]Dats the thing though, not every man is for sale. some mens balls are not for sale. dats the truth chief whether you choose to accept it or not. me myself ? my balls are not for sale. nobody, man or woman is getting a hold of my balls. i have walked out of high paying jobs because i see the white boy is tryna be fresh with me, and i gave him a piece of my mind on the spot, packed my bag and left. i have walked out on relationships just dead cold and never turned back cuz i see someone tryna play games with my balls. daz the kinda nigga i am. nothing in this life is indispensable. thats how principled niggas move. i am ready to drop anything at any given moment. i never hold onto any thing in life including family members that i cant cutt off ties from if i see a change in how they are acting towards me. daaz how some of us get down. anything and anybody can be disposed off at the drop of a dime. i dont hold onto anything. and when you operate like dat ? people start respecting you. its when people think you need them that they start acting crazy [/b]

Listen, once a woman moves from being a supporter, to being the bread winner - she has you by ya balls and there's absolutely no way you can maintain control over a relationship like that. When you're a beggar, you can't be a chooser and all the crap about being strong/principled goes out of the window.

Yes, you've walked out of high paying jobs cos of the same reason. That's also applicable here. It's either you walk out of the relationship, or lose ya balls. The ball isn't ya court anymore...she pays the piper and she'll obviously call the tune.

SleekAboki:
A man who can't take care of his family is not a REAL man. It ain't worth it going into marriage and becoming a pussy to your wife and mother inlaw.

It's a pity father's nolonger teach the younger ones what it means to be a MAN!

I'm telling you...alot of adult babies around calling themselves Men, and they're always quick to jump into marriage. I guess it's the in-thing these days. When a man can't fend for himself, why get married and then complain when he has a philandering wife?

Ruq:


Did you grow up almost alone ?

not really. but kinda sorta. but everyone in my family is like that. we inherited the trait from my dad. he was very strong and principled lol

sukkot:
yeah shaking her ass onstage is talent * sigh * kids deez days

I guess Beyonce too got no talent, huh?

What do I know?

SirShymexx:


Listen, once a woman moves from being a supporter, to being the bread winner - she has you by ya balls and there's absolutely no way you can maintain control over a relationship like that. When you're a beggar, you can't be a chooser and all the crap about being strong/principled goes out of the window.

Yes, you've walked out of high paying jobs cos of the same reason. That's also applicable here. It's either you walk out of the relationship, or lose ya balls. The ball isn't ya court anymore...she pays the piper and she'll obviously call the tune.

Very true

SirShymexx:


Listen, once a woman moves from being a supporter, to being the bread winner - she has you by ya balls and there's absolutely no way you can maintain control over a relationship like that. When you're a beggar, you can't be a chooser and all the crap about being strong/principled goes out of the window.

Yes, you've walked out of high paying jobs cos of the same reason. That's also applicable here. It's either you walk out of the relationship, or lose ya balls. The ball isn't ya court anymore...she pays the piper and she'll obviously call the tune.

speak for yourself nigga. dont speak for all men. dont impose your reality on all men

freecocoa:
I guess Beyonce too got no talent, huh?

What do I know?

shaking ya ass onstage aint exactly brain surgery now is it ?

dare2differ:


I am not talking about how the man feels for providing for the family. I am talking about the consequence of being the sole/main provider. How it affects the relationship? How it makes the man feel about his partner and his family?

How would you know that very few man do so? I told you it was complicated.

men have been doing it since the time of adam and there has been no issues with it. its the norm and not the exception. thats the household most of us who are over 20 grew up in. daddy working and mummy at home.

sukkot:
shaking ya ass onstage aint exactly brain surgery now is it ?

Nah its not, but correct me if I'm wrong, are you saying tiwa's got no singing talent and that shaking one's a$$ on stage, makes one an olosho?

sukkot:
speak for yourself nigga. dont speak for all men. dont impose your reality on all men

Lol. That isn't my reality - just relating loads of experiences I see around me daily to you. All these guys having curfews and getting thrown out of their houses by women can't be weaklings, can they?

It's good to always observe and not get carried away by ya own superficial qualities, especially when you're dealing with cunning creatures like women. Women are fvcking powerful - fvck around and they'll break ya balls.

Shyte, I'm out for now...enjoyed the comic relief though I feel for that nyggah. Need to get back to work and also do some things on linkedin. Make sure you tag me on all the juicy news for more comic relief in the evening. Life is a biitch and a nyggah needs to these juicy stories from time to time for a good laugh. Birdman had me laughing like a mad man a few days ago, with "respek"... but this right here is poppington right now.

freecocoa:
Nah its not, but correct me if I'm wrong, are you saying tiwa's got no singing talent and that shaking one's a$$ on stage, makes one an olosho?

i will let you be the judge of that

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Forwetinnah:


I'm telling you...alot of adult babies around calling themselves Men, and they're always quick to jump into marriage. I guess it's the in-thing these days. When a man can't fend for himself, why get married and then complain when he has a philandering wife?

it baffles me. No self respecting man would dare such. It's a pitiable sight seeing a man that has lost his grips on his family.

SirShymexx:


Lol. That isn't my reality - just relating loads of experiences I see around me daily to you. All these guys having curfews and getting thrown out of their houses by women can't be weaklings, can they?

It's good to always observe and not get carried away by ya own superficial qualities, especially when you're dealing with cunning creatures like women. Women are fvcking powerful - fvck around and they'll break ya balls.

Shyte, I'm out for now...enjoyed the comic relief though I feel for that nyggah. Need to get back to work and also do some things on linkedin. Make sure you tag me on all the juicy news for more comic relief in the evening. Life is a biitch and a nyggah needs to these juicy stories from time to time for a good laugh. Birdman had me laughing like a mad man a few days ago, with "respek"... but this right here is poppington right now.

well if it aint your reality why are you endorsing it like you are living it ? and you are vouching for it like every man in this world who automatically earns less is going to be abused. am tryna tell you there are few men ( not many but few ) who still happen to have the upper hand in their houses despite wifey earning more. so long as you are the one who provided the house and car and you buy the food cuz if you cant provide those 3 then you dont need to be in any relationship talk less of marriage lolz.

sukkot:
i will let you be the judge of that

[img]http://3.bp..com/-GH9fob4Yi9o/U2gEFp_CxII/AAAAAAAADhg/xv4pb7qvcMM/s1600/tiwa+savage+vagina.jpg[/img]

You should know more than anyone, that, morality is subjective, therefore I do my best not to judge people too quickly/harshly.

I do my best to stay out of how people choose to lead their lives, who I know an olosho to be, is a prostitute(even though I don't judge them) and as far as we know, Tiwa doesn't get paid for sex.

For a man to think that suicide is a short cut when there is problem with his marriage needs serious support from close friends. If you are not strong mentally, please don't marry a celebrity. This man needs help because, he has trust issue. He has a destructive mind. Why would any reasonable man become angry or jealous when his wife is a success in her field of endeavour? Marriage is for 2 matured adults and it is your duty to make it work. Always leave your communication channel open but always protect it from intruders. Don't discuss marriage problems to unmarried,separated or divorced. They will not offer you useful advise. Discuss your marriage problems yourself. As a man, respect the opinion of your wife at the thick of the crisis. When the storm settles down, use your heart to woo her to your side and peace reigns.
For you to contemplate suicide when you suppose to mend fence with your wife shows height of weakness.

sukkot:
[b]Dats the thing though, not every man is for sale. some mens balls are not for sale. dats the truth chief whether you choose to accept it or not. me myself ? my balls are not for sale. nobody, man or woman is getting a hold of my balls. i have walked out of high paying jobs because i see the white boy is tryna be fresh with me, and i gave him a piece of my mind on the spot, packed my bag and left. i have walked out on relationships just dead cold and never turned back cuz i see someone tryna play games with my balls. daz the kinda nigga i am. nothing in this life is indispensable. thats how principled niggas move. i am ready to drop anything at any given moment. i never hold onto any thing in life including family members that i cant cutt off ties from if i see a change in how they are acting towards me. daaz how some of us get down. anything and anybody can be disposed off at the drop of a dime. i dont hold onto anything. and when you operate like dat ? people start respecting you. its when people think you need them that they start acting crazy [/b]

I can identify with this. Namaste.

freecocoa:
You should know more than anyone, that, morality is subjective, therefore I do my best not to judge people too quickly/harshly.

I do my best to stay out of how people choose to lead their lives, who I know an olosho to be, is a prostitute(even though I don't judge them) and as far as we know, Tiwa doesn't get paid for sex.

you know her personally ? she is related to you ? sleeping with don jazzy and tubaba didnt bring her money indirectly ? not until actual cash is exchanged are you considered an olosho. sleeping with don jazzy so he can produce your album so you can make money is also olosho activity. yeah you are not getting the money directly from don jay but you are getting it indirectly from the song he made for you. jus sayin tho

sukkot:
speak for yourself nigga. dont speak for all men. dont impose your reality on all men

Brah, SirShymexx is right, you yourself acknowledged its hard for a woman keep it cool once a situation like this happens. Really you can't blame women who are like that it's human nature and when someone who is mostly expected to be a supporter gets an upper hand anything can change when status change. This explains why average doing niggaz are scared of well to do women.

Thing is you can't be a person and make sure she doesn't get moulah than you that's dicky, you just have to hope she keeps it cool no matter what and that she doesn't think she can call your bluff when something like that happens. But from the way you yap it's obvious your balls is a fortress on its own but you do know what most men are like.

This is actually very horriible. How can a grown man want to commit suicide because of a woman. This guy is out of his mind. What a shameless character. He is obviously of very little internal strength. I think he should simply move on. There are many women out there who are willing and ready to date him. He may be surprised that he will even have it better than this woman he wants to die for

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Hmmmmmm, If it is true he wants to commit suicide, good for him some of us are waiting to MARRY Tiwa fast - fast, goodluck

That is not true. I don't know any woman in my family who stayed at home. Indeed men have been raking in more money. Would you be surprised if I told you that most of these women often endure abuse. The most common one is threats of being thrown out of the family home. That is the Nigerian situation. There are lots of articles on it. I mean it is everywhere. I can talk about English scenarios too. Money is power and power corrupts be it man or a woman. Making a man the sole/main provider does not mean that it does not corrupt men the way it corrupts women. It does. There are many documented accounts and research on this issue.

Maybe you need to move away from the domestic context and focus on other relationships. You should have noticed that they way you treat individuals differ. Usually it comes form a consicus or subconscious understanding that you are equal to the perosn, above the person or lower to the person. These factors greatly affects the way you treat the person. Now when you put that in the domestic context where you wake and sleep with the person, where proximity is everything, it is easier to take it to the extreme than you would have with a friend or a stranger. Power struggle is real and it's consequences are real. Let's stop making this gender thing. It is far more than that.

Would you be surprised if I told you that as women suffer more extreme forms of abuse from their male partners. Children are often the victims of abusive women.

It would make sense that a woman would be abusive in a relationahip where she takes in more money. However in a society that recognise men as the sole/main providers, men who earn far less tend to see themselves as weaklings. They will naturally start to hate on her success. Every action would be analyse and often misinterpreted. He would want to gain that power and most of them often resort to violence as a means of control.

There are relationships where both couples are violent and abusive. Women also resort to violence to gain power. To get their man to act in a certain way. Some of them do it because they know they will get away with it. Some of them do it because they know that people wouldn't really believe a woman can act in such manner. However in comparison to men, the rate is lower.

Look at teebliz case, he is blaming everyone except himself. The moment I read the part where he blamed her for his lack of success. I knew this was a case of a man whose wife abuses or a man who feels emasculated because his lack of success. The latter is more likely because his failure began when he stopped being her manager.



You need to look beyond gender because if gender were such a big factor, how would you explain abuse in homosexual relationship. This isn't about a woman or a man. It is about what we all experience. People blame the female gender when a woman is at fault, people blame her when the man is at fault.


-I know my points are not well coordinated but try to read am like that.

sukkot:
men have been doing it since the time of adam and there has been no issues with it. its the norm and not the exception. thats the household most of us who are over 20 grew up in. daddy working and mummy at home.

sukkot:
you know her personally ? she is related to you ? sleeping with don jazzy and tubaba didnt bring her money indirectly ? not until actual cash is exchanged are you considered an olosho. sleeping with don jazzy so he can produce your album so you can make money is also olosho activity. yeah you are not getting the money directly from don jay but you are getting it indirectly from the song he made for you. jus sayin tho

Lol, so now we believe all the fvck boi Teebillz said, right after you asked if I know Tiwa personally? So I guess this means you were there when she was sleeping with these men, who in turn paid her in songs, yea?

Gosh the kind of men we have these days God Help the next generation. The Day men will learn That when they go against goods words that a man should take care of his family and provide for them then they will do better in life. WHEN A MAN CHOOSE TO LET HIS WIFE BE THE BREADWINNER AND BE GIVING HIM POCKET MONEY ANYTHING HE SEES LET HIM TAKE IT.Men these days expect women to behave like out mother but refuse to understand that most mothers were so cos the Dads were MEN who understood the importance of being a bread winner. My Mother worked but my Dad will never take a Penney or let her use money for anything like feeding,Rent,Fees etc. I am sure she has stopped giving him allowance or reduce his monthly upkeep now she and her mother are witches and she has slept with the whole world Let him go and Die if he wants to cos even the bible says he is worst than an Infidel.his rants are so pathetic what woman wants such a weak man.

dare2differ:
That is not true. I don't know any woman in my family who stayed at home. Indeed men have been raking in more money. Would you be surprised if I told you that most of these women often endure abuse. The most common one is threats of being thrown out of the family home. That is the Nigerian situation. There are lots of articles on it. I mean it is everywhere. I can talk about English scenarios too. Money is power and power corrupts be it man or a woman. Making a man the sole/main provider does not mean that it does not corrupt men the way it corrupts women. It does. There are many documented accounts and research on this issue.

Maybe you need to move away from the domestic context and focus on other relationships. You should have noticed that they way you treat individuals differ. Usually it comes form a consicus or subconscious understanding that you are equal to the perosn, above the person or lower to the person. These factors greatly affects the way you treat the person. Now when you put that in the domestic context where you wake and sleep with the person, where proximity is everything, it is easier to take it to the extreme than you would have with a friend or a stranger. Power struggle is real and it's consequences are real. Let's stop making this gender thing. It is far more than that.

Would you be surprised if I told you that as women suffer more extreme forms of abuse from their male partners. Children are often the victims of abusive women.

It would make sense that a woman would be abusive in a relationahip where she takes in more money. However in a society that recognise men as the sole/main providers, men who earn far less tend to see themselves as weaklings. They will naturally start to hate on her success. Every action would be analyse and often misinterpreted. He would want to gain that power and most of them often resort to violence as a means of control.

There are relationships where both couples are violent and abusive. Women also resort to violence to gain power. To get their man to act in a certain way. Some of them do it because they know they will get away with it. Some of them do it because they know that people wouldn't really believe a woman can act in such manner. However in comparison to men, the rate is lower.

Look at teebliz case, he is blaming everyone except himself. The moment I read the part where he blamed her for his lack of success. I knew this was a case of a man whose wife abuses or a man who feels emasculated because his lack of success. The latter is more likely because his failure began when he stopped being her manager.



You need to look beyond gender because if gender were such a big factor, how would you explain abuse in homosexual relationship. This isn't about a woman or a man. It is about what we all experience. People blame the female gender when a woman is at fault, people blame her when the man is at fault.


-I know my points are not well coordinated but try to read am like that.

hmmmm this shumtin is long oooooooo

modath:



I wish I could agree with you, I sincerely do but i've never seen one situation where the woman makes more than the man & the man's ball didn't eventually creep into the lady's handbag!! Not one, even the supposed church faithfuls... if the going is still smooth now, sooner rather than later, something will snap.

It's biology, women are nurturers, men are providers, anything that tips the balance never ends well... yours truly has her head screw up tight but I know for sure I would go crazy if I had the purse strings in my hands!!

We can pretend all we can but women aren't wired right when it comes to managing a man that has less than!!




Sirshymexx ..me feel the guy has been so debased that he has decided to take the brand down with him!! He is depressed for real..

It depends if the woman is of the school of thought that a man must 'provide'. A woman who believes a man must out-earn her or 'provide' solely or largely will disrespect her husband is he earns less or doesn't earn because he is not bringing 'value' anymore to the relationship and the woman is self-sufficient.

I know a number of abused women who are the sole/major providers.

A lot of wives now have the 'purse strings' in their hands especially in Nigeria.