AZUH:
Itswell1 who you epp ?

jossy26:
Excuse me Mr Excuzeme

Excuzeme:








I am still trying to figure-out what Brabus should have done, when @KolashangOne asked him the above question!
Should he have IGNORED KolashangOne or should he have answered him, in a few words as he did?

What would YOU do, in his place?

From HappyKay, to itswell1, to Sensegiver, to 3strikes, to Bigemouth,to Maverick, to Erico2K and many other multi-user id's that you people have been using to "ask and answer" yourselves in the same breath, YOU ARE NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEW!

It was agreed by all to keep this thread CLEAN and that ALL complaints/Bashing/madness should be taken to special, dedicated thread opened by many people, including Hajj M, Egunmogaji, Brabus himself, etc to air your grievances.

But like broken record, small and very sad people keep polluting this wonderful thread.
You said this matter has been on for over three years so, what are you saying now that you have not said in the last three years?

But l am surprised that not one of the people crying here have taken any concrete action against Brabus, except to derail this thread.
Is it that they are Cowards, illiterate, ignorant, Criminals themselves (source of money and cant stand-up to scrutiny) or just mentally disturbed?

I know they will soon label me a "Brabus-supporter", as they usually do to anyone that does not follow their endless wailing and derailing of this thread but l am sure if they read my previous post on Brabus, they can/cant be honest enough to accept that l dont support bad behaviour by any builder.
Brabus has done wrong and it is either we leave in him to God's judgement or we prosecute him using the appropriate organs of Government but we cannot turn this thread to a hate thread. Its for learning about Construction.

Again, l find that some Builders (l can understand previous Clients) are simply jealous of that Chateau or whatever you call it and get really angry whenever it is mentioned but they like to hide behind some other user-id's or instigate others to do their dirty work.
One particular one only posts here whenever Brabus name is mentioned (and l am not referring to kolashangOne)

Instead of derailing this thread, l will suggest that those who have made it their life-duty to see that Brabus does not get another job (and he keeps getting jobs!) should contribute money among themselves and take giant Bill-boards and Front-page, Newspaper adverts, to tell their story, the same story they have been telling in the last three years and Clients are still not listening!


Enough of derailing this thread and no one should talk about Brabus Chateau again, l am tired of hearing about it (not that l dont appreciate a good build when l see one but it is making some people develop high blood pressure as we can all see).

Brabus, l know you have the right to answer a question when asked, l know you have a right to show the picture of your house (if it is easy to steal client money to build this Chateau, @itswell1 should try it and build a house like this ) but please, for the sake others, use other buildings as examples so that your house is not the cause of some other people going unclad in broad daylight.

With what some of your Clients feel, l can imagine how they feel seeing that your own house is not sinking or waterlogged while their own is although, some of them also share in the blame, for not listening to advice.

back to topic, construction and new building ideas

kopell:
I am sick and tired of this CHATEAU thing over the years. Where you the first guy to build a house on the Island. For how long will you be displaying your stupid trial and error building style claiming to be a research in innovation. Please when you want to do this, use your money and open your research lab and experiment your trial and error there. Take your research product to channels TV and pay advertisement fee, so that you can get more victims. We have seen other people build over 25 houses in the last 2 years, without any issue with the professionalism and money management skills they display in actualizing these projects. When on the earth it's only one guy in the pool of others that always have issues in the last five years with majority of his clients and still trying to justify that it's the customer that is always wrong. Most of us here are professionals in different fields of our professions, if we are not builders it does not mean that we are stupid in terms of way we managing our resources. For those that lost millions in the thought of giving someone second chance, in my opinion I believe it's not a bad thing to do. But this guy has proven beyond reasonable doubt, that is his way of life. Whoever bought into it should have himself to blame and please all parties involved should stop derailing this innovative and ideologist informative platform. Don't mean to attack anyone but just, to share my view on this matter that has been revolving for over three years.

mavverick:
CHATEAU is not on the Island oo ? Who dash am, na for one bush for Sagamu, I have identified the address.
If CHATEAU was on the Island, do you know how many peoples materials would have been stolen to build it ?

segcymoor:

Although, I am not expected to respond to this write up since I am not actually involved.Nevertheless, I was obliged to do so just because of a statement(....Also,some builder were jealous when see chaateu or wherever..)
I understand this statements is not direct to me but to the 'Builder' in the house generally.

To start it,If u guy study my statement regarding this 'Man of the people' as I like to call him. U will observed I.fancy his personality. I ve actually promised him a deal!




-----
He will see d best of Architecture having invites him and family for a dinner!
Bros, no room for jealous ooooo. All guy get their paroo

mavverick:
NOTICE !

You know yourself, I will not quote you to reply you. I think you should spend more time looking after your daughter rather than wasting your life here away on NL, also learn a profession that one day could be useful in Nigeria, because laborers plenty well for Nigeria and that is classed as unskilled workforce.

Just a piece of advice.

whizbrain:
Good day Great People. Please I really have an issue bordering me. I have this piece of Land Located in Awka Anambra State. I will like to know the type of duplex (NO OF ROOMS AND ARRANGEMENT BOTH IN GROUND AND TOP FLOOR) that will be able to enter in it. I have attached a copy of the survey plan. Please help me out.

CC
Brabus
Spyder880
Egunmogaji
n3xt
Mufutau55

n3xt:


Good morning bro. Brabus and n3xt is one entity. I'll look at your survey and see if I have any advice/recommendation for you.

EgunMogaji:
For those that are in the stages of finishing, these are good things to keep in mind.

Perhaps Skimanski can guide us on how he turns out breathtaking finishes like this each and every time and not just a one hit wonder.

skimanski:





Finishing is no doubt the hardest part of a building project. Its mostly all smiles between contractors and clients during carcass and those smiles fades away when finishing resumes. Mostly when client's Hard earned money (In this country where hard times are regular), are not been put to proper use. Most of the blame should go to the contractor. I know clients can want to twist contractors into doing things that might be counter productive to the success of the project, but its definitely not because they do not like their house, but because of their level of understanding, and their level of trust for contractors



For those already in finishing stage. This is the little i feel i know, and these goes for both client and contractor. Saving money should be the last thing on your mind. I know both parties will not like to be in the loosing ends, but lets try and balance our available resources with what we want. I know contractors are in the business for profit, so am I, but, let the JOB you do decide the money you make, and not the money you want to make decided the Job you do. for crying out loud, you can have what you don't deserve. As a result of the above, I build in my self the following attributes.

* Determination/Believe.
Before I do any Job, i tell my self, its a go, This house must be fine no matter what.




Creativity:
The moment we get into it in a conventional way means there will be no creativity. But note once profit is in the forefront, then creativity is difficult to attain.


Most importantly Respect for others:
We must respect the feelings of everybody involved the the projects, from client to contractors to artisans and Labourers. We must all pay our fair share of dues. Negotiate what we know will do the Jobs. There is no need for a client to want to pay a contractor 500 When he knows in his hearts of hearts that 500 Will mean the contractor will struggle. and yet the clients expects his job to be done. that means he has deceived himself into thinking the contractor will use his personal money to finish the Job. There nothing bad if contractor is paid more than the job deserves, that means you have more chances of getting a good job than the other way round. This also applies to contractors when negotiating with artisans.

skimanski:



@EgunMogaji I'm delighted that you appreciate our work. Means we have to do more to please people like you and professionals in property section.

Finishing is no doubt the hardest part of a building project. Its mostly all smiles between contractors and clients during carcass and those smiles fades away when finishing resumes. Mostly when client's Hard earned money (In this country where hard times are regular), are not been put to proper use. Most of the blame should go to the contractor. I know clients can want to twist contractors into doing things that might be counter productive to the success of the project, but its definitely not because they do not like their house, but because of their level of understanding, and their level of trust for contractors, they take matters into their own hands. Note; I don't see these same clients tell Mercedes Benz how to make a v12 Engine. Benz already seems to know what they are doing.

Now for all of us that want to build. We most have a picture of how we want to live in the house. in our living rooms, we must have a picture of how we want to enter the living room, Sit down, Turn on the TV, Stand up, Walk into the Dinning, see whose coming out of the Kitchen, Enter the kitchen ourselves, Try and be involved in the Kitchen activities, Walk Upstairs, Sit with your family in the private Living room, Walk your Kids to bed, go to your own bedroom, use your shower, go to bed, wake up in the morning and think if you will like to do any outdoor event like Swimming, or farming or sitting down somewhere to drink, and if yes, think of which part of the house you will like to do that. The moment we have a mental picture of the living style in our head the way we want it, we might know how to shape our house, given the available space. Its not enough to want the Architect to help us think this, because the way he wants to leave might be contrary to the way you will want to leave. His Job is to help you manage what you want with what you have available. Once that is done then finishing becomes easier.

For those already in finishing stage. This is the little i feel i know, and these goes for both client and contractor. Saving money should be the last thing on your mind. I know both parties will not like to be in the loosing ends, but lets try and balance our available resources with what we want. I know contractors are in the business for profit, so am I, but, let the JOB you do decide the money you make, and not the money you want to make decided the Job you do. for crying out loud, you can have what you don't deserve. As a result of the above, I build in my self the following attributes.

* Determination/Believe.
Before I do any Job, i tell my self, its a go, This house must be fine no matter what. Even the house doesn't have a choice. so when you get to that point where the design doesn't go as planned, then you know you do not have a choice but to make sure it comes out nice. Its that process of making sure you get it right, that you discover new grounds into making things and that ground discovered will make you look like a genius, but in truth, you just got out of a design gone wrong. I was asked a question in one of my thread and below is my answer

Re: Arcadia Groove Estate:constructing Our 4 BEDROOM DUPLEX by skimanski(m): 9:48am On Aug 11
wanaj0:
Moving quite fast.

Hope those pipes will not have leaks.


Never will I be involved in a leaking Pipe. Not after the all my years of renovation.
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The word "never" is called Determination/Believe.


Creativity:
People think this thing is a gift people have. I say no, its an ability you build in your self. and it comes with these simple steps. Always have an open mind towards anything. Do not box yourself into one taught. broaden your taught. As your self how can it be done differently, then see if that differently is better, and the rest is history. The moment we get into it in a conventional way means there will be no creativity. But note once profit is in the forefront, then creativity is difficult to attain.


Most importantly Respect for others:
We must respect the feelings of everybody involved the the projects, from client to contractors to artisans and Labourers. We must all pay our fair share of dues. Negotiate what we know will do the Jobs. There is no need for a client to want to pay a contractor 500 When he knows in his hearts of hearts that 500 Will mean the contractor will struggle. and yet the clients expects his job to be done. that means he has deceived himself into thinking the contractor will use his personal money to finish the Job. There nothing bad if contractor is paid more than the job deserves, that means you have more chances of getting a good job than the other way round. This also applies to contractors when negotiating with artisans.


Once this and more that i haven't remembered are followed, then we are in for a nice finishing.

Excuzeme:








I am still trying to figure-out what Brabus should have done, when @KolashangOne asked him the above question!
Should he have IGNORED KolashangOne or should he have answered him, in a few words as he did?

What would YOU do, in his place?

From HappyKay, to itswell1, to Sensegiver, to 3strikes, to Bigemouth,to Maverick, to Erico2K and many other multi-user id's that you people have been using to "ask and answer" yourselves in the same breath, YOU ARE NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEW!

It was agreed by all to keep this thread CLEAN and that ALL complaints/Bashing/madness should be taken to special, dedicated thread opened by many people, including Hajj M, Egunmogaji, Brabus himself, etc to air your grievances.

But like broken record, small and very sad people keep polluting this wonderful thread.
You said this matter has been on for over three years so, what are you saying now that you have not said in the last three years?

But l am surprised that not one of the people crying here have taken any concrete action against Brabus, except to derail this thread.
Is it that they are Cowards, illiterate, ignorant, Criminals themselves (source of money and cant stand-up to scrutiny) or just mentally disturbed?

I know they will soon label me a "Brabus-supporter", as they usually do to anyone that does not follow their endless wailing and derailing of this thread but l am sure if they read my previous post on Brabus, they can/cant be honest enough to accept that l dont support bad behaviour by any builder.
Brabus has done wrong and it is either we leave in him to God's judgement or we prosecute him using the appropriate organs of Government but we cannot turn this thread to a hate thread. Its for learning about Construction.

Again, l find that some Builders (l can understand previous Clients) are simply jealous of that Chateau or whatever you call it and get really angry whenever it is mentioned but they like to hide behind some other user-id's or instigate others to do their dirty work.
One particular one only posts here whenever Brabus name is mentioned (and l am not referring to kolashangOne)

Instead of derailing this thread, l will suggest that those who have made it their life-duty to see that Brabus does not get another job (and he keeps getting jobs!) should contribute money among themselves and take giant Bill-boards and Front-page, Newspaper adverts, to tell their story, the same story they have been telling in the last three years and Clients are still not listening!


Enough of derailing this thread and no one should talk about Brabus Chateau again, l am tired of hearing about it (not that l dont appreciate a good build when l see one but it is making some people develop high blood pressure as we can all see).

Brabus, l know you have the right to answer a question when asked, l know you have a right to show the picture of your house (if it is easy to steal client money to build this Chateau, @itswell1 should try it and build a house like this ) but please, for the sake others, use other buildings as examples so that your house is not the cause of some other people going unclad in broad daylight.

With what some of your Clients feel, l can imagine how they feel seeing that your own house is not sinking or waterlogged while their own is although, some of them also share in the blame, for not listening to advice.

back to topic, construction and new building ideas

3strikes:




Help me welcome Lastpage back to round 2. Round one was a knock out ........Thanks to Erico.

only transgendered on Nairaland....

just continue

segcymoor:

Although, I am not expected to respond to this write up since I am not actually involved.Nevertheless, I was obliged to do so just because of a statement(....Also,some builder were jealous when see chaateu or wherever..)
I understand this statements is not direct to me but to the 'Builder' in the house generally.

To start it,If u guy study my statement regarding this 'Man of the people' as I like to call him. U will observed I.fancy his personality. I ve actually promised him a deal!




-----
He will see d best of Architecture having invites him and family for a dinner!
Bros, no room for jealous ooooo. All guy get their paroo

segcymoor:

Although, I am not expected to respond to this write up since I am not actually involved.Nevertheless, I was obliged to do so just because of a statement(....Also,some builder were jealous when see chaateu or wherever..)
I understand this statements is not direct to me but to the 'Builder' in the house generally.

To start it,If u guy study my statement regarding this 'Man of the people' as I like to call him. U will observed I.fancy his personality. I ve actually promised him a deal!




-----
He will see d best of Architecture having invites him and family for a dinner!
Bros, no room for jealous ooooo. All guy get their paroo

mavverick:
Good piece of advice here. Whilst I do not know you personally, from the post the sincerity appears to be there in the writing.

let the JOB you do decide the money you make, and not the money you want to make decided the Job you do.


The bolded above is one that I will tell my mentees, when next I visit disadvantaged school kids as part of cooperate social responsibility, and one that I will also include in a speech I will be delivering soon. So I will borrow that from you Jude.

Now, its also one that I hope Bosun and his wife can take a cue from.

Its a true shame that NL has immensely talented individuals, and I have always been one of your fans albeit I think I have said this before, I just hope that you guys can weed out the bad eggs among the lot so that for newbies the thought of engaging professionals via NL does not become a scary one, especially people in diaspora.

It is also very important for all to do a bit of more research, I think the site is better now compared to 2-4 years ago, where you read about issues but it then suddenly dies down, so one is not aware of what happened. We also have to commend the efforts of those who spend time exposing fraudsters, such people are scarce these days, we seem to have a lot of more people who are ending the careers of others on NL as they term it, those that have a job should be thankful to almighty God, those that are able to teach others professionally should also be thankful to God as the days of an online focused world has equally created those who are haplessly hopeless wherever they find themselves in this planet.

whizbrain:
Good day Great People. Please I really have an issue bordering me. I have this piece of Land Located in Awka Anambra State. I will like to know the type of duplex (NO OF ROOMS AND ARRANGEMENT BOTH IN GROUND AND TOP FLOOR) that will be able to enter in it. I have attached a copy of the survey plan. Please help me out.

CC
Brabus
Spyder880
Egunmogaji
n3xt
Mufutau55

skimanski:



@EgunMogaji I'm delighted that you appreciate our work. Means we have to do more to please people like you and professionals in property section.

Finishing is no doubt the hardest part of a building project. Its mostly all smiles between contractors and clients during carcass and those smiles fades away when finishing resumes. Mostly when client's Hard earned money (In this country where hard times are regular), are not been put to proper use. Most of the blame should go to the contractor. I know clients can want to twist contractors into doing things that might be counter productive to the success of the project, but its definitely not because they do not like their house, but because of their level of understanding, and their level of trust for contractors, they take matters into their own hands. Note; I don't see these same clients tell Mercedes Benz how to make a v12 Engine. Benz already seems to know what they are doing.

Now for all of us that want to build. We most have a picture of how we want to live in the house. in our living rooms, we must have a picture of how we want to enter the living room, Sit down, Turn on the TV, Stand up, Walk into the Dinning, see whose coming out of the Kitchen, Enter the kitchen ourselves, Try and be involved in the Kitchen activities, Walk Upstairs, Sit with your family in the private Living room, Walk your Kids to bed, go to your own bedroom, use your shower, go to bed, wake up in the morning and think if you will like to do any outdoor event like Swimming, or farming or sitting down somewhere to drink, and if yes, think of which part of the house you will like to do that. The moment we have a mental picture of the living style in our head the way we want it, we might know how to shape our house, given the available space. Its not enough to want the Architect to help us think this, because the way he wants to leave might be contrary to the way you will want to leave. His Job is to help you manage what you want with what you have available. Once that is done then finishing becomes easier.

For those already in finishing stage. This is the little i feel i know, and these goes for both client and contractor. Saving money should be the last thing on your mind. I know both parties will not like to be in the loosing ends, but lets try and balance our available resources with what we want. I know contractors are in the business for profit, so am I, but, let the JOB you do decide the money you make, and not the money you want to make decided the Job you do. for crying out loud, you can have what you don't deserve. As a result of the above, I build in my self the following attributes.

* Determination/Believe.
Before I do any Job, i tell my self, its a go, This house must be fine no matter what. Even the house doesn't have a choice. so when you get to that point where the design doesn't go as planned, then you know you do not have a choice but to make sure it comes out nice. Its that process of making sure you get it right, that you discover new grounds into making things and that ground discovered will make you look like a genius, but in truth, you just got out of a design gone wrong. I was asked a question in one of my thread and below is my answer

Re: Arcadia Groove Estate:constructing Our 4 BEDROOM DUPLEX by skimanski(m): 9:48am On Aug 11
wanaj0:
Moving quite fast.

Hope those pipes will not have leaks.


Never will I be involved in a leaking Pipe. Not after the all my years of renovation.
(Modify) (Quote) (Report) (Share)

The word "never" is called Determination/Believe.


Creativity:
People think this thing is a gift people have. I say no, its an ability you build in your self. and it comes with these simple steps. Always have an open mind towards anything. Do not box yourself into one taught. broaden your taught. As your self how can it be done differently, then see if that differently is better, and the rest is history. The moment we get into it in a conventional way means there will be no creativity. But note once profit is in the forefront, then creativity is difficult to attain.


Most importantly Respect for others:
We must respect the feelings of everybody involved the the projects, from client to contractors to artisans and Labourers. We must all pay our fair share of dues. Negotiate what we know will do the Jobs. There is no need for a client to want to pay a contractor 500 When he knows in his hearts of hearts that 500 Will mean the contractor will struggle. and yet the clients expects his job to be done. that means he has deceived himself into thinking the contractor will use his personal money to finish the Job. There nothing bad if contractor is paid more than the job deserves, that means you have more chances of getting a good job than the other way round. This also applies to contractors when negotiating with artisans.


Once this and more that i haven't remembered are followed, then we are in for a nice finishing.

mavverick:
NOTICE !

You know yourself, I will not quote you to reply you. I think you should spend more time looking after your daughter rather than wasting your life here away on NL, also learn a profession that one day could be useful in Nigeria, because laborers plenty well for Nigeria and that is classed as unskilled workforce.

Just a piece of advice.

EgunMogaji:


Greetings Madam, thanks for the mention. Your request is beyond my capacity but I can recommend my Architect, @Darynex, whom I recommend without any reservation and I believe operates in your area there.

Good luck on your project.

EgunMogaji:




But I shouldn't talk as I should go and continue washing "corpers" or was it "corpses"

DUNKA:
Itwell@ please move on and try to get a job so that u can hire Skimanksi to build you villa

Brands had moved on

DUNKA:
Itwell@ please move on and try to get a job so that u can hire Skimanksi to build you villa

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