oaroloye:
SHALOM!

My name is Olatunde Aroloye. I am a Medical Laboratory Supervisor at the Obafemi Awolowo University Health Centre, in Ile-Ife, Osun State.

I am a Born Again, Full-Gospel, Pentecostal Christian of 35 years standing. In the fifth year of my Conversion, I achieved Spiritual Breakthroughs which required me to leave Organized Christianity for ever.

However, I had no wherewithal to begin to fully comprehend what I had gotten into, until seven years thence, when I encountered Carlos Castaneda's NAGUALISM. I thought then, that I had understood everything I needed to know, but then, two years on, I discovered L. Ron Hubbard's SCIENTOLOGY.

I thought that I could be sure that there was nothing left to learn- though I was still acquiring the entirety of their Teachings- them not being readily available in Nigeria, to this day- but about fifteen years after my liberty from Organized Christianity, I found THE CELESTINE PROPHECY.

Each of these Teachings fills in the blanks of Bible Religion.

They all account for why It was delivered as It did, why Its various successes "worked," and WHY BIBLE RELIGION HAS ULTIMATELY FAILED.

All the World's Religions FAIL to reach God, because, if they were not originally CREATED by THE SATAN COLLECTIVE ENTITY, then they were CORRUPTED by him.

I believe that THE ONLY CORRECT SOLUTION is to ELIMINATE EVERYTHING that we don't NEED, and focus on what is USEFUL in enabling us to VERIFY THE CLAIMS OF RELIGIONS IN GENERAL, and BIBLE RELIGION in particular.

Anything else is an irrational and irresponsible waste of our limited time on Earth.

dueal:


Greetings,

I have one thing to ask since you are supposedly enlightened; In the book of Luke 17:20-21...the Kingdom of God is within you.

What is "The Kingdom of God"? What do you think/know about it?

Former Full Gospel Preacher, KENNETH COPELAND once told this Testimony
of ORAL ROBERTS, that he once prayed:

"How can I know Jesus?"

He was answered:

"READ MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN,
AND THE BOOK OF ACTS-
-THREE TIMES IN THIRTY DAYS!"

He did it on his knees.

At the end of the thirty days, he testified,
he knew Jesus better than he knew any man
on the Face of the Earth!

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

My name is Olatunde Aroloye...............

Sarassin:


I have found your post very interesting. Out of interest what was the spiritual experience that caused you to step away from organised religion and are you still a practising Christian?

I am also interested in your thoughts about Nagualism, did you study and practice or did you draw your inspiration only from Castaneda’s books? I practiced and apprenticed to a “brujo” for quite a few years and then went in a different direction.

As you know, Nagualism is all about finding and travelling a path with heart.

We also learn that to walk the full length of a path that one truly loves, one needs the passion, courage, imagination, vigilance, discipline, self-awareness, grace, strength, resourcefulness, efficiency, patience, adaptability, and humbleness of a stalker. It is a continuous commitment to travel the path of awareness every moment.

My question therefore is, how do you reconcile the way of the warrior with a Christianity that lacks objectivity?

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



I am happy that you asked THAT question.

However, please remember that not everyone knows The Holy Scriptures, and for many, to even be found in possession of even parts of The Bible might well cost them their lives.

Therefore, I try to quote the full context of verses I use, where it is relevant.

. LUKE 17:20-25.

20. And when he was demanded
of the Pharisees,
when The Kingdom of God
should come,
he answered them and said,
"The Kingdom of God
cometh not with observation:
21. "Neither shall they say,

'LO HERE!' or, 'LO THERE!'

for, behold,
The Kingdom of God is within you."
22. And he said unto the Disciples,
"The days will come,
when ye shall desire to see
one of The Days of The Son of Man,
and ye shall not see It.
23. "And they shall say to you,

'SEE HERE;' or, 'SEE THERE:'

go not after them,
nor follow them.
24. "For as the lightning,
that lighteneth out of
the one part under Heaven,
shineth unto the other part under Heaven;
so shall also the Son of Man be in his day.
25. "But first must he suffer many things,
and be rejected of this Generation."

I GIVE MY SPIRITUAL QUALIFICATIONS, SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHERE I AM SPEAKING FROM, AND WHAT TO EXPECT. You do not state what your own Religious background is.

Your question implies that you are some sort of Christian.

But what sort of Christian would need to ask such a question?

Are you not the follower of a Clergyman, or have you not Brethren, who should have filled you in on this, a long time ago?

. LUKE 10:17-24.

17. And the seventy returned again
with joy, saying,
"Lord, even the Devils
are subject unto us
through thy Name."
18. And he said unto them,
"I beheld Satan as lightning
fall from Heaven.
19. "Behold, I give unto you
Power to tread on Serpents and Scorpions,
and over all the Power of the Enemy:
and nothing shall by any means
hurt you.
20. "Notwithstanding in this
rejoice not, that the spirits
are subject unto you;
but rather rejoice,
because your Names
are written in Heaven."
21. In that hour
Jesus rejoiced in spirit,
and said,
"I thank thee, O Father,
Lord of Heaven and Earth,
that thou hast hid these things
from the Wise and Prudent,
and hast revealed them unto Babes:
even so, Father;
for so it seemed Good in Thy Sight.
22. "All things are delivered to me
of my Father:
and no man knoweth who The Son is,
but The Father;
and who The Father is,
but The Son,
and he to whom
The Son will reveal Him."
23. And he turned him
unto his Disciples,
and said privately,
"Blessed are the eyes
which see the things
that ye see:
24. "For I tell you,

'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS
HAVE DESIRED
TO SEE THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' "

The Gospel of Yahshua is on a level above the Greatest Wisdom of The Old Testament.

Humans fall into one of four possible Spiritual Energy Categories:

4. HOLINESS.
3. RIGHTEOUSNESS.
2. FILTHINESS.
1. UNJUSTNESS.

THERE ARE SIX CATEGORIES OF SPIRITUALITY:

4. FATHERS.
3. YOUNG MEN.
2. LITTLE CHILDREN.
1. BABES-IN-CHRIST.
0. CARNAL BRETHREN.
-1. NATURAL MEN.

The Word of God is therefore of Four Levels:

4. STONE.
3. MEAT.
2. BREAD.
1. MILK.

There are Four Levels of Perception:

4. DIFFERENTIATION: the sane and intelligent ability
to perceive the differences between similar things.

3. ASSOCIATION: the sane and intelligent ability
to perceive the similarities between different things.

2. IDENTIFICATION: the insane and stupid inability
to perceive the differences between different things.

1. DISSOCIATION: the insane and stupid inability
to perceive the similarities between similar things.

0. DEATH: the inability to perceive anything at all.

[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

THEREFORE WORD-OF-GOD TRUTH THAT IS ABOVE ONE'S LEVEL OF BEING CANNOT BE UNDERSTOOD BY ONE.

The Purpose of The Teachings of Yahshua is to enable us to build up our Spiritual Energy to the point where it is no longer possible for even GOD to Tell us something that we cannot Understand.

. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. This Book of The Law
shall not depart
out of thy mouth;
but thou shalt
meditate therein
day and night,
that thou mayest
observe to do
according to all
that is written therein:
for then thou shalt
make thy way Prosperous,
and then thou shalt
have Good Success."

. PSALM 1:1-6.

BLESSED is the man
that walketh not
in The Counsel of the Ungodly,
nor standeth in the Way of Sinners,
nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful.
2. But his delight is
in The Law of The LORD;
and in His Law
doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree
planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit
in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth
shall prosper.
4. The Ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff
which the wind driveth away.
5.Therefore the Ungodly
shall not stand
in The Judgment,
nor Sinners
in The Congregation
of The Righteous.
6. For The LORD knoweth
The Way of the Righteous:
but the Way of the Ungodly
shall Perish.

. PSALM 119:97-105.

97. [MEM.] O how love I Thy Law!
It is my Meditation all the day.
98. Thou through Thy Commandments
hast made me Wiser than mine enemies:
for They are ever with me.
99.I have more Understanding
than all my teachers
for Thy Testimonies are my Meditation.
100. I understand more than the Ancients,
because I keep Thy Precepts.
101. I have refrained my feet
from every Evil Way,
that I might keep Thy Word.
102. I have not departed
from Thy Judgments:
for Thou hast Taught me.
103. How sweet are Thy Words
unto my taste!
Yea, sweeter than honey
to my mouth!
104. Through Thy Precepts
I get Understanding:
therefore I hate every False Way.
105. [NUN.] Thy Word is a lamp
unto my feet,
and a light
unto my path.

THE SCRIPTURES STATE EXPLICITLY, THAT GOOD SUCCESS COMES THROUGH MEDITATION.

Why, then, do JEWS, HEBREW ISRAELITES, CHRISTIANS, and UNBELIEVERS look for Good Success ELSEWHERE?

THE SCRIPTURES STATE EXPLICITLY, THAT WISDOM, BEYOND THAT OF OUR ENEMIES, COMES FROM KEEPING AND MEDITATING ON GOD'S COMMANDMENTS.

Why, then, do JEWS, HEBREW ISRAELITES, CHRISTIANS, and UNBELIEVERS look for Wisdom ELSEWHERE?

THE SCRIPTURES EXPLICITLY STATE, THAT UNDERSTANDING BEYOND THAT OF THE ANCIENTS AND TEACHERS COMES FROM KEEPING AND MEDITATING ON THE PRECEPTS AND TESTIMONIES OF GOD.

Why, then, do JEWS, HEBREW ISRAELITES, CHRISTIANS, and UNBELIEVERS look for Good Understanding ELSEWHERE?

MEDITATION is WORTHLESS without the FOUNDATION of THE LAW OF GOD BY MOSES, and THE GOSPEL OF YAHSHUA.

SATAN'S TEMPTATION of Yahshua FAILED- because HE KNEW THE LAW- he knew which Commandments of God The DEVIL was trying to get him to BREAK.

All around, you see the examples of people who did not FIRST LAY THE FOUNDATION, before starting their Ministries. Their Followers are STAGGERED WITH UNBELIEF at MY Teachings, because FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH means NOTHING to them.

They practice Christianity WITHOUT FOUNDATION.



ANYONE WHO DOES NOT DO THIS IMMEDIATELY IS NOT A REAL CHRISTIAN, AND CANNOT BE RELIED ON.
I am the ONLY Christian in this country, maybe on Earth today, Teaching BIBLICAL MEDITATION.

Therefore, no one comes forward to say: "THAT'S RIGHT!" "PREACH IT, BROTHER!" "THAT IS THE TEACHING THAT CHANGED MY LIFE, MAN!"

If you follow a Clergyman who does not Teach MEDITATION, that person IS NOT YOUR FRIEND!

They are DELIBERATELY leading you TO YOUR DEATH!

Without MEDITATION, Paying TITHES and giving ALMS and OFFERINGS for BLESSINGS OF GOD... will STILL WORK- but it is like EXTRACTING DRINKING WATER FROM DESERT SAND!

[Note to anyone who does not already know: DRINKING WATER CAN BE EXTRACTED FROM DESERT SAND.]

NOTE THAT WHEN YAHSHUA DECLARED THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD WAS INSIDE PEOPLE, THOSE PEOPLE WERE NOT HIS DISCIPLES. These people had THE LAW OF MOSES inside them, as well as THE PROPHETS.

. ECCLESIASTES 8:1-5.

WHO is as the wise man?
And who knoweth the interpretation of a thing?
A man's wisdom maketh his face to shine,
and the boldness of his face shall be changed.
2. I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment,
and that in regard of the Oath of God.
3. Be not hasty to go out of his sight:
stand not in an Evil Thing;
for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him.
4. Where the word of a king is,
there is power:
and who may say unto him,

"WHAT DOEST THOU?"

5. Whoso keepeth the commandment
shall feel no evil thing:
nd a wise man's heart
discerneth both time and judgment.

GOD IS THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AND HELL.

But God is NOT The RULER of ALL of Creation.

GOD IS KING ONLY WHERE HIS WORD IS ENFORCED.

. MATTHEW 6:9-10.

9. "After this manner
therefore pray ye:

'Our Father
Which art in Heaven,
Hallowed be Thy Name.
10. 'Thy Kingdom come.
'Thy Will be done in Earth,
as it is in Heaven.' "

IN HEAVEN, ONE CANNOT EXIST THERE, NOR FUNCTION THERE WITHOUT OBEYING GOD'S HEAVENLY COMMANDMENTS. Earth has no such requirement. Therefore it is possible to dwell here without obeying God's Heavenly Commandments- THE LEAST OF WHICH PERTAIN TO RIGHT AND WRONG.

Therefore the minimum requirement for entering Heaven is Spiritual Energy at the Level necessary to KNOW GOOD AND EVIL.

It is not necessary to be a GOOD PERSON to ENTER HEAVEN.

If one enters Heaven as an Evil Person, that is like marching into a Lion's Den armed with a CLOWN SUIT.

Maybe the lions may think one is so FUNNY, they will lose their appetite?

(Note to people not named "DANIEL:" Choose Dens of Lions with Sense of Humour!"

An Evil person in Heaven is like a Criminal, wearing his "WANTED!" Poster like a T-Shirt, and crashing a POLICE BANQUET. It is amazing how SINNERS THINK that if they could just go to HEAVEN when they died, they would be FINE.

They would not be "FINE."

Have you never been to the Healing Service of a HIGH PENTECOSTAL CHURCH, and seen the Minister lay hands on the Sick, and the Sick persons- not faking it- are "SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT?" Fall down as if DEAD?

What DOES that?

Well, the HEALER has Power BEYOND FAITH- therefore, where they are is HEAVENSPACE, not EARTHSPACE any more.

The persons who came to be ministered-to only have EARTH-LIFE-FORCE, so they CANNOT FUNCTION in HEAVENSPACE. Nor can the Conditions they complain of.

. MATTHEW 12:22-45.

22. Then was brought unto him
one possessed with a Devil,
blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that the blind and dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people were amazed,
and said,
"Is not this the son of David?"
24. But when the Pharisees heard it,
they said,
"This fellow doth not cast out Devils,
but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils."
25. And Jesus knew their thoughts,
and said unto them,
"Every kingdom divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan cast out Satan,
he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils,
by whom do your children cast them out?
Therefore they shall be your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by The Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his goods,
except he first bind the Strong Man?
And then he will spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me is against me;
and he that gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I say unto you,

'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'

32. "And whosoever speaketh
a Word against The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against The Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known by his fruit.
34. "O Generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being Evil,
speak Good Things?
For out of the Abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good Man
out of the Good Treasure of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil Man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36.But I say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'

37. "For by thy Words thou shalt be Justified,
and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."
38. Then certain of the scribes
and of the Pharisees answered, saying,
Master, we would see a Sign from thee.
39. But he answered and said unto them,
"An Evil and Adulterous Generation
seeketh after a Sign;
and there shall no Sign be given to it,
but The Sign of the Prophet Jonas:
40. "For as Jonas was three days
and three nights in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of Man be three days
and three nights in the heart of the Earth.
41. "The men of Nineveh
shall rise in Judgment with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
because they repented
at the Preaching of Jonas;
and, behold,
a Greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The Queen of the South
shall rise up in the Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
for she came from
The Uttermost Parts of the Earth
to hear The Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a Greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come, he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he, and taketh with himself
seven other spirits more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

THE PRESENCE OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD OCCURS WHEN THERE IS AGREEMENT WITH THE WORD OF GOD.

. 2^nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

. ISAIAH 55:6-11.

6. Seek ye The LORD while He may be found,
call ye upon Him while he is near:
7. Let the Wicked forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous man his Thoughts:
and let him return unto The LORD,
and He will have mercy upon him;
and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon.
8. "For My Thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways My Ways," saith the LORD.
9. "For as the Heavens are higher than the Earth,
so are My Ways higher than your ways,
and My Thoughts than your thoughts.
10. "For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from Heaven,
and returneth not thither, but watereth the Earth,
and maketh it bring forth and bud,
that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
11. "So shall My Word be that goeth forth out of My Mouth:
It shall not return unto Me void,
but It shall accomplish that which I please,
and It shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent It."

. AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

. MALACHI 3:16-18.

16. Then those who feared The LORD
spoke often one to another,
and The Lord Hearkened and heard it.
And a Book of Remembrance
was written before Him
for those who feared The LORD
and who thought upon His Name.
17 “And they shall be Mine,”
saith The LORD of Hosts,
“in that Day when I make up My Jewels;
and I will spare them as a man
spareth his own son who serveth him."
18. Then shall Ye Return and Discern
between the Righteous and the Wicked,
between him that serveth God,
and him that serveth Him not.

. JOHN 14:21-27.

21. "He that hath my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."
22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,
"Lord, how is it that
thou wilt manifest thyself unto us,
and not unto the World?"
23. Jesus answered and said unto him,
"If a man love me,
He will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and the Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's Which sent me.
25. “These things
have I spoken unto you,
being (yet) present with you.
26. "But The Comforter,
(Which is) The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father
will send in My Name,
He shall Teach you All Things
and bring all things
to your Remembrance,
whatsoever I have said unto you.
27 “Peace I leave with you;
My Peace I give unto you,
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart be troubled,
neither let it be afraid."

THEREFORE ONLY THOSE WORDS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD WITHIN ONE WHICH ONE AGREES WITH ARE ENERGIZED THROUGH THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD. That is why the Pharisees were not able to manifest the fruits that YAHSHUA was getting.

. THE FOUR TYPES OF SERVANTS OF GOD:

4. SHEEP: who understand every Word of God with Meditation,
and bear abundant fruits effortlessly.

3. GOATS: who understand much Word of God,
but bear sprarse fruits, with effort.

2. PIGS: who understand the valifity of The Word of God
but bear no good fruits on what they are taught.

1. DOGS: understand, accept, and believe nothing,
and howl, growl, and whine for others to explain to them.

dueal:



I do not follow a clergy, or a brethren nor a religious group. I am me, seeking and finding and I have found quite a few things.

One of it being, Yahosuah speaks of the simple things and they are actually simple. But we as men seek and only accept what is complex for we feel truth lays in complexity without which it cannot be true to us.

The Kingdom of God is not in words,

it's in manifestation of the power of God,

it's in Man(not one religion or another),

it can be expressed by words, made manifest by affirmations, and known by relationship with Him.

oaroloye:


You have not actually found anything at all, have you?

You just merely talk to sound wise.



. ISAIAH 55:6-11.

6. Seek ye The LORD while He may be found,
call ye upon Him while he is near:
7. Let the Wicked forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous man his Thoughts:
and let him return unto The LORD,
and He will have mercy upon him;
and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon.

8. "For My Thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways My Ways," saith the LORD.
9. "For as the Heavens are higher than the Earth,
so are My Ways higher than your ways,
and My Thoughts than your thoughts.
10. "For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from Heaven,
and returneth not thither, but watereth the Earth,
and maketh it bring forth and bud,
that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
11. "So shall My Word be that goeth forth out of My Mouth:
It shall not return unto Me void,
but It shall accomplish that which I please,
and It shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent It."

GOD'S POWER CANNOT BE SEPARATED FROM GOD'S WORD- SO THAT THEORY IS A LIE.

. ECCLESIASTES 8:1-5.

WHO is as the wise man?
And who knoweth the interpretation of a thing?
A man's wisdom maketh his face to shine,
and the boldness of his face shall be changed.
2. I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment,
and that in regard of the Oath of God.
3. Be not hasty to go out of his sight:
stand not in an Evil Thing;
for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him.
4. Where the word of a king is,
there is power:
and who may say unto him,

"WHAT DOEST THOU?"

5. Whoso keepeth the commandment
shall feel no evil thing:
nd a wise man's heart
discerneth both time and judgment.



. LUKE 10:10-11.

10. "But into whatsoever city ye enter,
and they receive you not,
go your ways out into the streets of the same,
and say,

11. 'EVEN THE VERY DUST OF YOUR CITY,
WHICH CLEAVETH ON US,
WE DO WIPE OFF AGAINST YOU:
NOTWITHSTANDING BE YE SURE OF THIS,

"THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD
IS COME NIGH UNTO YOU." ' "

Just because THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NOT MANIFEST, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS NOT PRESENT.



THE WORLD'S GREATEST EXPERTS ON THE KINGDOM OF GOD TOLD PEOPLE WHO REJECTED YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS, THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD WAS NEAR THEM- NOT IN THEM- BECAUSE THEY HAD FAILED TO RECEIVE THE WORD OF GOD.

The Pharisees had THE WORD OF GOD, but they refused THE GOSPEL.

If they had MEDITATED on Yahshua's Word:

. LUKE 17:20-25.

20. And when he was demanded
of the Pharisees,
when The Kingdom of God
should come,
he answered them and said,
"The Kingdom of God
cometh not with observation:
21. "Neither shall they say,

'LO HERE!' or, 'LO THERE!'

for, behold,
The Kingdom of God is within you."
22. And he said unto the Disciples,
"The days will come,
when ye shall desire to see
one of The Days of The Son of Man,
and ye shall not see It.
23. "And they shall say to you,

'SEE HERE;' or, 'SEE THERE:'

go not after them,
nor follow them.
24. "For as the lightning,
that lighteneth out of
the one part under Heaven,
shineth unto the other part under Heaven;
so shall also the Son of Man be in his day.
25. "But first must he suffer many things,
and be rejected of this Generation."



You have rejected The Gospel, but want to make it sound as if you believe what Christians supposedly believe.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

I believe that THE ONLY CORRECT SOLUTION is to ELIMINATE EVERYTHING that we don't NEED, and focus on what is USEFUL in enabling us to VERIFY THE CLAIMS OF RELIGIONS IN GENERAL, and BIBLE RELIGION in particular.

Anything else is an irrational and irresponsible waste of our limited time on Earth.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!





Therefore, what do YOU mean by "we," since you don't identify yourself.

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:

ANYTHING CONTRARY TO YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS IS SOMETHING YOU DON'T NEED.

I don't need to verify the claims of Religions.

If they don't tell you how to verify their claims, why are you wasting your time with them?

WHEN YOU OBEY YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS, YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, BECAUSE YOUR PERCEPTIONS WILL REHABILITATE.

dueal:
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The Kingdom of God is within you. You quote from the book of Luke and it says WITHIN. The comparison Yahosuah gave was from external to internal. Whether you understand that or not doesn't change the essence of it.

The SIMPLE. Try that for a change. If you don't see results then probably I am wrong.

Now you confuse my statement; "THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NOT IN WORD BUT IN DEMONSTRATION OF THE POWER OF GOD".

People say, speak the word, talk the word. I ask, which word exactly. The book of Isaiah and many others talk about the "AMEN" of God's word. When he says it is established because it is that powerful.

If your words produce nothing then you have nothing because your miss the mark.

Search out the parables on the Kingdom of God.

oaroloye:


Don't tell me that my understanding is faulty, when it is you who are ignoring the facts.

1. ECCLESIASTES said that where THE WORD OF A KING IS is Power.

2. Yahshua, the Rightful King of Israel, told his Disciples, who were carrying HIS WORD, to tell the people who rejected THEM and HIM both, that THE KINGDOM OF GOD had COME NEAR to them.

3. Yahshua told THE PHARISEE BIBLE EXPERTS that The Kingdom of God was in THEM.

He did not say that to EVERYBODY.

4. LUKE 8:9-12.

9. And his Disciples asked him,
saying,
"What might this parable be?
10. And he said,
"Unto you it is given to know
The Mysteries of The Kingdom of God:
but to others in Parables;
that seeing they might not see,
and hearing they might not understand.
11. "Now the Parable is this:

'THE SEED IS THE WORD OF GOD.
12. 'THOSE BY THE WAY SIDE
ARE THEY THAT HEAR;
THEN COMETH THE DEVIL,
AND TAKETH AWAY THE WORD
OUT OF THEIE HEARTS,
LEST THEY SHOULD BELIEVE
AND BE SAVED.' "

THERE ARE TWO GREEK WORDS THE LAZY OYINBO BARBARIANS TRANSLATED "WORD."

LOGOS: The Recorded Word.

RHEMA: The Spoken Word.

. ROMANS 10:17.

17. So then Faith cometh by hearing,
and hearing by the Word of God.

MANY CHRISTIANS IN THE FALSE FULL GOSPEL CHRISTIANITY Movement have literally lost their lives from being in LIFE-OR-DEATH Situations, where ONLY GOD could SAVE their LIVES.

Therefore, their Survival depended upon their FAITH.

But they HAD no Faith.

Their CHARLATAN and LYING Preachers told them, that if they had the RHEMA WORD OF GOD, they would automatically have the Fruit of FAITH. On PAUL'S Authority in ROMANS 10:17.

That is a LIE.

PAUL SAID that Faith comes from hearing the RHEMA Word of God.

YAHSHUA SAID- whatever it was he said in Aramaic, but when it came time to translate his Words into the ULTRA-PRECISE language that was Ancient GREEK, the term chosen was LOGOS.

. JOHN 1:1-3.

IN The Beginning
was The Word,
and The Word was with God,
and The Word was God.
2. The same was in The Beginning with God.
3. All things were made by Him;
and without Him was not any thing
made that was made.

THE TERM USED HERE IS "LOGOS."

There is no way for you to know the difference between the two, nor their applications, so I shall have to inform you.

All Material things are RHEMATA- Spoken Words.

They move, as it were, in Space and Time.

But RHEMATA are made of LOGION.

Every Material Matter or Energy is an APPARENCY manifested by ONE LOGOS SEED.

This is THE WORD that creates the PHYSICAL APPARENCIES we think we know, and are all attached to.

The LOGION are SPIRITUAL "ENERGY" IMAGES whivpch are created and stored in the MIND.

The SCIENTOLOGY Term for what The Bible calls LOGOS is FACSIMILE.

Facsimiles Exist at all levels of Existence:

1. BELIEFS; 2. THOUGHTS; 3. WORDS; 4. PHYSICAL ACTIONS; 5. POSTULATES; 6. TOTAL UNDERSTANDING.

[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

The Entrance-Point of ANY Existence should therefore be BELIEF.

If the Mind can generate Facsimiles at BELIEF Level, and ENERGIZE them, It can CREATE whatever THOUGHTS, WORDS, PHYSICAL EFFECTS, POSTULATES- Prophecies, Predictions, Commands, TOTAL UNDERSTANDING- The GOD'S-EYE View- that said Mind WANTS.

How can one DO that?

At this point, you should realize that whatever Organization, Brotherhood, or whatever you are hanging out with, and YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO ENERGIZE FACSIMILES, you have been WASTING YOUR LIFE.

If you go to a FOOL GOSPEL (sic) Church, what do you see?

ONE MAN controlling MULTITUDES, like a god!

At the end of the service,what happens?

Everybody who NEEDS SOMETHING has to queue-up, and let the "MAN-OF-GOD" lay hands on them, and impart SPIRITUAL POWER!

Some people are REGULARS in that "HEALING LINE!"

IT'S DISGRACEFUL!

Given a man a fish, and you feed him for a day.

Teach a man to fish, and you get him arrested for fishing-without-a-permit!

Erm... what I mean to say, is- the POINT is that a LEGITIMATE Man-of-God would Teach Christians to PRAY FOR THEMSELVES. If they have truly learned to ENERGIZE FACSIMILES themselves, then they keep that Knowledge to themselvex- because it is literally money-in-the-bank to them!

They WANT people to DEPEND ON THEM, so they can FEED off of them!

The Technique of Energizing Facsimiles is VERY SIMPLE.

SCIENTOLOGY has a Technique- I believe that it is described in the book: SCIENTOLOGY 8-80.

I am neither Teaching it, nor using it. It is not appropriate to Christianity.

The method that is appropriate to BIBLE RELIGION is given by:

. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. This Book of The Law
shall not depart
out of thy mouth;
but thou shalt
meditate therein
day and night,
that thou mayest
observe to do
according to all
that is written therein:
for then thou shalt
make thy way Prosperous,
and then thou shalt
have Good Success."

. PSALM 1:1-6.

BLESSED is the man
that walketh not
in The Counsel of the Ungodly,
nor standeth in the Way of Sinners,
nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful.
2. But his delight is
in The Law of The LORD;
and in His Law
doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree
planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit
in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth
shall prosper.
4. The Ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff
which the wind driveth away.
5.Therefore the Ungodly
shall not stand
in The Judgment,
nor Sinners
in The Congregation
of The Righteous.
6. For The LORD knoweth
The Way of the Righteous:
but the Way of the Ungodly
shall Perish.

. PSALM 119:97-105.

97. [MEM.] O how love I Thy Law!
It is my Meditation all the day.
98. Thou through Thy Commandments
hast made me Wiser than mine enemies:
for They are ever with me.
99.I have more Understanding
than all my teachers
for Thy Testimonies are my Meditation.
100. I understand more than the Ancients,
because I keep Thy Precepts.
101. I have refrained my feet
from every Evil Way,
that I might keep Thy Word.
102. I have not departed
from Thy Judgments:
for Thou hast Taught me.
103. How sweet are Thy Words
unto my taste!
Yea, sweeter than honey
to my mouth!
104. Through Thy Precepts
I get Understanding:
therefore I hate every False Way.
105. [NUN.] Thy Word is a lamp
unto my feet,
and a light
unto my path.

THIS IS A RUMINANT BEAST EMULATION.

.. LEVITICUS 11:1-12.

11 And The LORD spoke unto Moses and to Aaron,
Saying unto them,
2. “Speak unto the Children of Israel,
saying,

‘THESE ARE THE BEASTS
WHICH YE SHALL EAT
AMONG ALL THE BEASTS
THAT ARE ON THE EARTH.'

3. "Whatsoever parteth the hoof
and is cloven-footed
and cheweth the cud among the Beasts,
that shall ye eat.
4. "Nevertheless these shall ye not eat,
of those that chew the cud
or of those that divide the hoof:
the camel,
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
5. "And the coney,
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
6. "And the hare
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
7. "And the swine,
though he divide the hoof
and is cloven-footed,
yet he cheweth not the cud,
he is unclean to you.
8. "Of their flesh shall ye not eat,
and their carcass shall ye not touch;
they are unclean to you."
9. "These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters:
whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters,
in the seas, and in the rivers,
them shall ye eat.
10. "And all that have not fins and scales in the seas,
and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters,
and of any living thing which is in the waters,
they shall be an abomination unto you:
11. "They shall be even an abomination unto you;
ye shall not eat of their flesh,
but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12. "Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters,
that shall be an abomination unto you."

NAGUALISM TEACHES THAT THERE ARE THREE CATEGORIES OF KNOWLEDGE.

1. THE KNOWN: That which the Natural Man only knows- thinking that it is all that exists or can exist.

2. THE UNKNOWN: That which is explored by MORTAL Spiritual Persons.

3. THE UNKNOWABLE: That Knowledge whose merest contact will DESTROY the SOUL and BODY of a MORTAL who comes in contact with it. (This is not the sort of Knowledge that can be written down in Alphabets.)

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda,]

SATAN'S FIGHT IS TO KEEP HUMANS FROM GETTING TO THE UNKNOWABLE.

Once we have done THAT, he WON'T be able to stand up to us.

YAHSHUA TAUGHT THAT HE ONLY NEEDS A FEW TO ATTAIN THE UNKNOWABLE.

When he has them, he will ignore the rest, when he takes those Elite into his Exclusive Group.

. MATTHEW 25:1-30.

"THEN shall The Kingdom of Heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2. "And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3. "They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4. "But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5. "While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6. "And at midnight there was a cry made,
'Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.'
7. "Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8. "And the foolish said unto the wise,
'Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.'
9."But the wise answered, saying,
'Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.'
10. "And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11. "Afterward came also the other virgins, saying,
'Lord, Lord, open to us.'
12. "But he answered and said,
'Verily I say unto you,
"I know you not." '
13. "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of Man cometh.
14. "For The Kingdom of Heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
15. And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey.
16. "Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents.
17. "And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two.
18. "But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money.
19. "After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them.
20. "And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying,
'Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more.'
21. "His lord said unto him,
'Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.'
22. "He also that had received two talents came and said,
'Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them.'
23. "His lord said unto him,
'Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.'
24. "Then he which had received the one talent came and said,
'Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
25. 'And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
26. "His lord answered and said unto him,
'Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
27. 'Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
28. 'Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
29. 'For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
30. 'And cast ye the unprofitable servant into Outer Darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' "

. THE TEN TALENTS. (Matthew 25:1-30.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. ETERNAL LIFE.

THIS HAS BEEN THE CONSISTENT MESSAGE OF GOD TO MANKIND, SINCE THE BEGINNING.

MEDITATION REQUIRES THE AUDIBLE READING OF THE ENTIRE BIBLE, AT LEAST THE ONCE.

A "MOUTHFUL" SAMPLE IS MURMURED OR MUTTERED TO ONESELF, HUNDREDS INTO THOUSANDS OF TIMES PER DAY- UNTIL TOTAL UNDERSTANDING IS ATTAINED.

If you have understood this, from your scientology teaching and other mixup you have been looking into then you have found something.


HOW DARE YOU TELL YOUR ELDER TO BECOME A SIMPLETON LIKE YOU ARE USED TO DOMINATING!

Was your mother even born, when I sat my last Bible Knowledge exam?



I confused nothing.

You LIED.

I cited the SCRIPTURES that PROVED that you LIED, so you just BLUFF and SAY that your LIE was not in fact, a LIE.



THIS IS MERE SOPHISTRIC BABBLE, WITH NEITHER RELEVANCE, NOR MEANING.

You LIED to us: period.


any r ex
HOW DARE YOU SEND US ON FOOLS' ERRANDS, TO COVER UP YOUR LYING.

Whom do you think you are talking to, with such disrespect?

If you know any relevant Scriptures, IT IS YOUR DUTY to PRODUCE them, so that EVERYONE can LEARN and ENJOY. But that is not what you are here for, is it?

You HATE The Gospel, and CANNOT TOLERATE the Words of YAHSHUA, therefore you cannot produce any.

It is a STRAIN for you- because you LOST THE LOGOS WORD long ago.

dueal:


. EXODUS 23:1-9.


"THOU shalt not raise a False Report:
put not thine hand with the Wicked
to be an unrighteous witness.
2. "Thou shalt not follow
a multitude to (do) Evil;
neither shalt thou
speak in a cause
to decline after many
to wrest (judgment).
3. "Neither shalt thou
countenance a poor man
in his cause.
4. "If thou meet
thine enemy's ox or his ass,
going astray,
thou shalt surely
bring it back to him again.
5. "If thou see
the ass of him that hateth thee
lying under his burden,
and wouldest forbear to help him,
thou shalt surely help with him.
6. "Thou shalt not wrest
the judgment of thy Poor
in his cause.
7. "Keep thee far
from a False Matter;
and the Innocent and Righteous
slay thou not.
8. "And thou shalt take no Gift:
for the Gift blindeth the Wise,
and perverteth the words
of the Righteous.
9. "Also thou shalt not
oppress a Stranger:
for ye know
the heart of a Stranger,
seeing ye were Strangers
in the land of Egypt."

. LEVITICUS 19:17-18.

17. "Thou shalt not
hate thy Brother
in thine heart:
thou shalt in any wise
rebuke thy Neighbour,
and not suffer Sin upon him.
18. "Thou shalt not avenge,
nor bear any grudge
against the Children of thy People,
but thou shalt love thy Neighbour
as thyself: I (am) The LORD."

. LEVITICUS 19:32.

32. "Thou shalt rise up
before the hoary head,
and honour the face
of the old man,
and fear thy God:
I (am) The LORD."

Being Elderly(you aren't that old either) and Lost is nothing new.

Do not come claiming CHRISTIANITY when you are obviously a student of SCIENTOLOGY(i have nothing against what influences you, but do not be two-faced).

Like i said, keep it simple.

Anyone can come over and dump streams of text and documents in the hopes that someone reads it.

If you can not explain what you know simply, then like i said, you really do not know what you think you know.

A clay pot doesn't cool better than a refrigerator.

Being Old does not by default mean Knowledge.

"MOST CHRISTIANS
FEED THEIR BODIES
THREE HOT MEALS PER DAY,
AND THEIR SOULS,
ONE COLD SNACK PER WEEK,
AND THEN WONDER WHY
THEY HAVE NO FAITH
FOR HEALING!" - F.F. BOSWORTH.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Thank you for your interest.

You always hear people saying that they quit Christianity, "Because I couldn't stomach the Hypocrisy!"

I Realized that this was deliberate.

My Christian Experience was anomalous- I come from a Sorcery Lineage, while growing up, not being allowed to know the least thing about our culture.

I was supposed to die and fill in my father's hole- but it had to look like an accident.

I was dying of Drug-Resistant Chronic Malaria, when I got Saved- then I learned that DIVINE HEALING existed today- so I went for that. Everything about FAITH that I READ made perfect sense. But the Fellowship Leaders were not interested in furthering us Spiritually, for Real.

Then I had my major Breakthrough, and broke into SECOND ATTENTION for just a few minutes (or so it seemed).

I had no idea what this was, and there was no one I could talk to about it.

Therefore, I could not continue; I Realized that the Fellowship leaders were not really Full Gospel at all (*Duh!*).

I read my first couple of Carlos Castaneda books in 1992- after I broke up with my father, who came out and threatened to kill me. I wanted to understand Sorcerers.

I was shocked, when I read JOURNEY TO IXTLAN, that it was nothing like we'd been told.

I quickly found THE FIRE FROM WITHIN- and I understood virtually everything Don Juan said- but could not figure out why Carlos did not. (Of course, now that he is dead, now we know what he was doing wrong!)

Our University library had THE TEACHINGS OF DON JUAN, and A SEPARATE REALITY, but it would take me eleven years to finally get my hands on all the books.

But by 1994, a student friend introduced me to DIANETICS and SCIENTOLOGY.

I was totally flabbergasted at what I read: HOW did THIS man FAIL to make World President?

This man had all of the FIRST ATTENTION Answers, that are needed to confront THE SECOND ATTENTION!

HOW was the World not saved?

But then I learned that the same problem affecting the Full Gospel Movement also affected SCIENTOLOGY.

They put a man in charge of Nigerian Scientology whose job-in-life was to discoursge Nigerians from joining SCIENTOLOGY.

I grabbed the books and tapes with the data I needed, a d got me the Hell out of there.



There. You see right there. From how you say that, I know that you know what you are talking about.



Those are the correct terms.

The only problem is: DO YOU HAVE A PLAN TO GET TO THIRD ATTENTION?

If one does not get to THIRD ATTENTION, it is all for nothing.

Don Juan thought that JULIAN never made Third Attention.

THE TENANT had Knowledge up the wazoo- yet he never made Third Attention.

Carlos Castaneda did not make Third Attention- and that is annoying to me, in the extreme.

We cannot afford to get SIDETRACKED.

I have determined that it is just not worth it.



THE WAY OF YAHSHUA Ben YAHWEH is The Way of The Warrior.

There are two types of Warriors- one is the one who fights to propagate Enlightenment- the other is the one who fights to block the gate. They don't go in, but they hinder everyone else from getting in.

The first kind have learned to be solitary birds- because there are Type II Warriors all over the place.

I should have become a solitary bird myself- but I was raised by other people than my parents, and have become terminally-infected with foolish ideas, like Fighting for What-is-Right, go Free-the-Oppressed.

If I had known thirty years ago, what I know now I (would've invested in MICROSOFT, dammit!) I would have tried to Save this Country from a more comfortable locale- maybe another Universe.

The Enemy always makes the same mistakes- because it is the same Enemy there has always been.

YAHSHUA FIRST TAUGHT THE PINCHES TIRANITOS CONCEPT- THAT IS NOT BEING USED IN FULL GOSPEL CHRISTIANITY.

They teach this horrible distortion of: "...YOU SHALL BE THE HEAD, AND NOT THE TAIL-!"

Everybody loses their minds over "DIVINE PROSPERITY!"

So all the Intent of Pentecostal Christians is tied up in MEST acquisitions.

We do not need Matter, Energy, Space, and Time acquisitions as much as ASSEMBLAGE POINT ALIGNMENTS.

We have the right ones, and, as YAHSHUA PROMISED, we will have all the MEST we could ever use.

But the Christians are never going to see past their Short-Term Desires, so their only use will be as Petty Tyrants against the Warriors GOD shall give The Kingdom to, instead of them.

dueal:



Being Elderly(you aren't that old either) and Lost is nothing new. Do not come claiming CHRISTIANITY when you are obviously a student of SCIENTOLOGY(i have nothing against what influences you, but do not be two-faced).

Like i said, keep it simple. Anyone can come over and dump streams of text and documents in the hopes that someone reads it. If you can not explain what you know simply, then like i said, you really do not know what you think you know.

A clay pot doesn't cool better than a refrigerator. Being Old does not by default mean Knowledge.