Pastor Benny Hinn said something I've been stating about the fundamental nature of God and his life. He said it in the power of the Spirit last night at a ministration in Lagos.

GOD does not exist, HE IS EXISTENCE. God does not live, HE IS LIFE. God does not live in eternity, ETERNITY LIVES IN HIM!

The first and last phrases, especially the last, are quite powerful and satisfying to me and everyone who ponders. You see the Spirit is one and always says the same thing.


God is the origin, yet he became man because of his love for us. The FACT OF HIS INCARNATION IS NOT TO BE A SOURCE OF DOUBT, IT IS TO BE A SOURCE OF THE INSPIRATION OF HIS LOVE FOR YOU AND ME.

The power of his life flows in believers in this world. In spite of lies, we are the bearers of truth. We are the graced ones, and we will continue to shake the world even more with his love and power.

Now is not a time to be idiot.ic as many are, reprobate, lounging in deadly darkness and lust and filthiness of mind and mouth. Now is not the time for foolishness in old men and young. It is not the time for pride to deceive. Now is not a time for doubts. The truth is around you. It's words are in your mouth. Seek it and you will find it. Confess it.

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son. That whosoever believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting life. The son did not come to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him.

If you believe in your heart the Lord Jesus, and confess with your mouth that God raised him from the dead, you shall be saved.

For there is no other name given among men with which they will be saved, save the name of Jesus.

So amazing!!

Could you please further explain what those statements mean?

How can a person be Existence? Existence is a state, or a value that you give to a thing. A person can exist or not exist.

A person can be tall or short, but it is nonsensical to say that a person is height.

You might get away with saying God is Life depending on what you mean by life.

But the most nonsensical of all is to say that Eternity lives in Him.

What does Eternity mean to you? How can eternity be in a person?

He wasn't referring to everyday people, man's view point of impossibility is different from the way God sees it.
1 corin 1:25

PastorAIO:
Could you please further explain what those statements mean?

How can a person be Existence? Existence is a state, or a value that you give to a thing. A person can exist or not exist.

A person can be tall or short, but it is nonsensical to say that a person is height.

You might get away with saying God is Life depending on what you mean by life.

But the most nonsensical of all is to say that Eternity lives in Him.

What does Eternity mean to you? How can eternity be in a person?

He wasn't referring to everyday people, man's view point of impossibility is different from the way God sees it.
1 Corinth 1:25

peacesamuel94:


He wasn't referring to everyday people, man's view point of impossibility is different from the way God sees it.
1 Corinth 1:25

I cannot speak of who or what he was referring to, I can only speak of logic and commonsense.

This is more than impossibility. You might say it is impossible for a man to jump over Empire State Building. Fair enough. Empire state building can be an obstacle in your path, and it has a height so it is possible to pass over it, though not for a man with only 2 legs.

That is different from saying it is impossible for a man to jump over a dream. A dream is not a physical object with a height that can be an obstacle on someone's path. You can't talk about jumping over a dream because a dream is not an object like empire state building that you can physically scale.


It is the same with the Inanity of the OP.

God is a person, yes or no?

A person can either exist or not exist, yes or no?

Existence is not a person, or a thing. So therefore you cannot equate the two and say This person is Existence. These are just the fundamentals of Logic, commonsense, and Language systems.

You can't run to saying the folly of God is greater than the wisdom of men. this whole matter is beyond Wisdom and Folly. This represents the utter disintegration and ultimate demise of any intelligence, human or divine. There are no distinctions here between nouns and verbs, between adjectives and adverbs etc etc.

e.g Does these make sense: 1. Hot is carefully. 2. The water is not hot, the water is heat itself. The car does not run fast, it is fastness itself.


These are nonsensical statement no matter how you look at them, whether grammatically, logically, any how.

However the OP claims that he experienced the statements as powerful and satisfying. I believe him. Totally.

So what becomes of interest to me is how such pitiful nonsense can have such a powerful and satisfying effect.

This would require a study of the human brain and how it works. I feel that I know what happened, but it's a big topic on human psychology etc.

PastorAIO:
Could you please further explain what those statements mean?

How can a person be Existence? Existence is a state, or a value that you give to a thing. A person can exist or not exist.

A person can be tall or short, but it is nonsensical to say that a person is height.

You might get away with saying God is Life depending on what you mean by life.

But the most nonsensical of all is to say that Eternity lives in Him.

What does Eternity mean to you? How can eternity be in a person?

Thread destroyed!!!!!!

joshthefirst has come again with his christian "logic"

JackBizzle:


Thread destroyed!!!!!!

in fact I just died sef lol

I agree with the OP.

God does not exist he is existence

It is by far the best thing any theist has said on this thread.
If God is existence then he cannot impose his will, existence has no emotion, existence is impartial, existence will not aid man, existence certainly doesn't inspire a book with fairytales, existence doesn't tell you what to do or how to live your life, but most pleasing of all existence doesn't care if you worship it or not. I think that is version of God all atheist can accept. Abi no be so.
Lol You are inspiring atheism with this your statement oh all in the name of sounding smart.
So all we need to do is exist. I praise God

stephenmorris:
in fact I just died sef lol

PastorAIO just put a stop to the op's rubbish......

Lennycool:
I agree with the OP.

It is by far the best thing any theist has said on this thread.
If God is existence then he cannot impose his will, existence has no emotion, existence is impartial, existence will not aid man, existence certainly doesn't inspire a book with fairytales, existence doesn't tell you what to do or how to live your life, but most pleasing of all existence doesn't care if you worship it or not. I think that is version of God all atheist can accept. Abi no be so.
Lol You are inspiring atheism with this your statement oh all in the name of sounding smart.
So all we need to do is exist. I praise God

And as you are a part of existence, you are God too.

PastorAIO:



And as you are a part of existence, you are God too.

We are all GOD. The stones are GOD the animals are GOD everything is GOD as everything is part of existence.

PastorAIO:
Could you please further explain what those statements mean?

How can a person be Existence? Existence is a state, or a value that you give to a thing. A person can exist or not exist.

A person can be tall or short, but it is nonsensical to say that a person is height.

You might get away with saying God is Life depending on what you mean by life.

But the most nonsensical of all is to say that Eternity lives in Him.

What does Eternity mean to you? How can eternity be in a person?

I am simply trying to pass across a point of God's supreme nature to you. God is transcendent. You would be foolish to apply ordinary 'nounish' matters to him.

Come clean and stop being annoying if you don't understand what I'm trying to pass across (I think you do shaa, I choose to have a high opinion of you in spite of contrary evidence).

When I say God does not 'exist'(note parenthesis. The parenthesis implies there's a deeper meaning to what I'm saying, logically.) I mean he did not come into being, like us or the universe. He is the reality of presence. Before such concepts of time or space, or beginning or end he IS. IS! For petes sake. He is the sum total of existence. And everything about reality is contained in him, by inference. This does away with the id.iotic problem of any such infinite regress(take note Lennycool).

By eternity, I mean infinite longevity. Before anything else (including a beginning or end) existed, God IS. ('IS' since there was no relative past present or future of his presence) If he transcends the term 'origin' itself, then he is not 'limited' by infinity. Infinity is 'contained' in him.

I have done my best explaining my words, such that even a child would understand and I probably won't go to this great length anymore.

Joshthefirst:

You would be foolish to apply ordinary 'nounish' matters to him..

Indeed. It seems only believers are allowed to do such.

JackBizzle:



Thread destroyed!!!!!!

Sharap abeeg .

That PastorAIO guy only knows how to criticize religious beliefs , he claims to be pantheist and failed to honour the request to scrutinize his pantheistic beliefs . What is he afraid of ? Criticism ? He believes divinity permeates the universe and can't defend his beliefs I lost any iota of respect I had for him . Nonsense .

KingEbukasBlog:


Sharap abeeg .

That PastorAIO guy only knows how to criticize religious beliefs , he claims to be pantheist and failed to honour the request to scrutinize his pantheistic beliefs . What is he afraid of ? Criticism ? He believes divinity permeates the universe and can't defend his beliefs I lost any iota of respect I had for him . Nonsense .

like your respect means Jack sheet

hopefulLandlord:


like your respect means Jack sheet

Who is this

hopefulLandlord:


like your respect means Jack sheet

Nor mind am!

Very mumu guy. He hallucinates. He will first have to find the post where I said I was a pantheist before he asks me any question about 'my pantheism'.

Me o, when I see craze man I dey run. Other people like to stick around for the entertainment value, but not me, I scram.

Joshthefirst:


I am simply trying to pass across a point of God's supreme nature to you. God is transcendent. You would be foolish to apply ordinary 'nounish' matters to him.

Then why do you do so?

'Existence' is a noun. are you trying to tell us that you are foolish?

Why should you bother trying to talk about something that you say is ineffable?

Where exactly did you learn this 'point of God's supreme nature' that you want to pass to me? In the bible?

Or from Benny Hinn?

Or from your own musings?

KingEbukasBlog:


Sharap abeeg .

That PastorAIO guy only knows how to criticize religious beliefs , he claims to be pantheist and failed to honour the request to scrutinize his pantheistic beliefs . What is he afraid of ? Criticism ? He believes divinity permeates the universe and can't defend his beliefs I lost any iota of respect I had for him . Nonsense .

Can god make another god more powerful than himself?

Joshthefirst:
Pastor Benny Hinn said something I've been stating about the fundamental nature of God and his life. He said it in the power of the Spirit last night at a ministration in Lagos.

GOD does not exist, HE IS EXISTENCE. God does not live, HE IS LIFE. God does not live in eternity, ETERNITY LIVES IN HIM!

The first and last phrases, especially the last, are quite powerful and satisfying to me and everyone who ponders. You see the Spirit is one and always says the same thing.


God is the origin, yet he became man because of his love for us. The FACT OF HIS INCARNATION IS NOT TO BE A SOURCE OF DOUBT, IT IS TO BE A SOURCE OF THE INSPIRATION OF HIS LOVE FOR YOU AND ME.

The power of his life flows in believers in this world. In spite of lies, we are the bearers of truth. We are the graced ones, and we will continue to shake the world even more with his love and power.

Now is not a time to be idiot.ic as many are, reprobate, lounging in deadly darkness and lust and filthiness of mind and mouth. Now is not the time for foolishness in old men and young. It is not the time for pride to deceive. Now is not a time for doubts. The truth is around you. It's words are in your mouth. Seek it and you will find it. Confess it.

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son. That whosoever believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting life. The son did not come to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him.

If you believe in your heart the Lord Jesus, and confess with your mouth that God raised him from the dead, you shall be saved.

For there is no other name given among men with which they will be saved, save the name of Jesus.

I'm not surprised at the comments of all these anti-God horsdes in here, who come in the guise of atheism.

They're some things I can't say to them; things like what Benny Hinn said above. These are stuff that are way above their limited, myopic, logical and failed human reasoning.

"The things of the spirit is foolishness to a carnal mind".

This is what the book of 1st Timothy 6:20 says (NKJV); Timothy, keep safe what has been entrusted to your care. Avoid the profane talk and foolish arguments of what someone people wrongly call "knowledge".

The KJV Bible translates it thus; O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called.

Going by the above scripture, it's evident that these kind of arguments based on science and logical reasoning or whatever, has been in existence, even when man had limited knowledge about science.

Judging from the above, it will be expedient to say that, scientific proof isn't why atheists are against God, they're just against God, except of course someone wants to tell me that science at the time of writing the above scripture was already advanced enough to challenge the Bible, just like science is doing today.

GOD does not exist, HE IS EXISTENCE. God does not live, HE IS LIFE. God does not live in eternity, ETERNITY LIVES IN HIM!

God does not collect offering, it is offering. God does not need a bank, it is a bank. Tithes and offering live in it

LaClicKLaBenDin:
This is what the book of 1st Timothy 6:20 says (NKJV); Timothy, keep safe what has been entrusted to your care. Avoid the profane talk and foolish arguments of what someone people wrongly call "knowledge".

The KJV Bible translates it thus; O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called.

Going by the above scripture, it's evident that these kind of arguments based on science and logical reasoning or whatever, has been in existence, even when man had limited knowledge about science.

Judging from the above, it will be expedient to say that, scientific proof isn't why atheists are against God, they're just against God, except of course someone wants to tell me that science at the time of writing the above scripture was already advanced enough to challenge the Bible, just like science is doing today.

A book tells you not to use common sense and science, and you willingly oblige.

JackBizzle:


A book tells you not to use common sense and science, and you willingly oblige.

Judging from the above, it will be expedient to say that, scientific proof isn't why atheists are against God, they're just against God, except of course someone wants to tell me that science at the time of writing the above scripture was already advanced enough to challenge the Bible, just like science is doing today.

If you don't have anything reasonable to say, especially to the bolded, just move on, I'm not here to for spurious talk.

LaClicKLaBenDin:


Judging from the above, it will be expedient to say that, scientific proof isn't why atheists are against God, they're just against God, except of course someone wants to tell me that science at the time of writing the above scripture was already advanced enough to challenge the Bible, just like science is doing today.

If you don't have anything reasonable to say, especially to the bolded, just move on, I'm not here to for spurious talk.

La yeye la smell

JackBizzle:





La yeye la smell

Of course! I'm sorry I had to make you feel unintelligent...

LaClicKLaBenDin:


Judging from the above, it will be expedient to say that, scientific proof isn't why atheists are against God, they're just against God, except of course someone wants to tell me that science at the time of writing the above scripture was already advanced enough to challenge the Bible, just like science is doing today.

If you don't have anything reasonable to say, especially to the bolded, just move on, I'm not here to for spurious talk.

I thought Reasonable talk was of no use to you.

hahn:


God does not collect offering, it is offering. God does not need a bank, it is a bank. Tithes and offering live in it

PastorAIO:


I thought Reasonable talk was of no use to you.

Typical! Attack my person, thereby avoiding real issues...