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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by YourWife(f): 9:49am On Dec 02, 2016
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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by StreamerBlogger: 9:50am On Dec 02, 2016
Boleyndynasty2:
Buhari should stop oppressing the poor, tax the rich for christ sake. A very good opportunity to slash not just salaries but also allowances of those old men sitting in the house of reps and assembly. Tax those who own more than 2 cars, big mansions etc not trying to kill the already dead masses. You haven't done anything for them but yet you keep trying to milk life outta them
And how has the government helped the rich??... Am not saying I support him In any way but his policies affects every1.. Stop specifying rich people.. Note I don't come from a rich home... We are managing what we have.. but I believe you should stop accepting being poor and strive to be rich as well.. You not the only one being affected.. Just because some can afford it more than others does not mean we all should not be taxed justly and equally.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by dustydee: 9:50am On Dec 02, 2016
adedayoa2:
but you and i know that our taxes are been deducted even before we get paid. Now tell me who's at fault? The payer of the payee?
If the FG had not been deducting the correct taxes before and decided to start deducting it now without asking for arrears, why are they claiming their salary was slashed?
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by dustydee: 9:53am On Dec 02, 2016
jusRadical:





Please talking nonsense. Civil servants do not pay their taxes directly. The govt deducts their taxes at source.

At source means that their taxes are removed and so also pension, loans, etc by the accounts dept before they are paid.

Many companies do that also.

Stop displaying you ignorance.
St
So if 10k is deducted from source instead of 20k on a 100k salary given the worker a net pay of 90k and the government realises and decides to deduct the full tax of 20k giving a net of 80k, how does that amount to a slash?
I am afraid Seunmsg you quoted is right.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Doyin2(m): 9:55am On Dec 02, 2016
The headline is very misleading and probably mischievous.

FG did not slash salary,it only applied the appropriate tax mechanism.The shenanigans of the past must not continue,very much inline with the Change agenda!
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by modupe2: 9:57am On Dec 02, 2016
Senseless!

naijaking1:
Sai Baba, he doesn't believe in Christmas!
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Nobody: 9:57am On Dec 02, 2016
Kamnelly:
Ara Efi,Since they increased electricity tarrif to improve power, hv u noticed any change or is it nt worst,THIS GOVT IS PURE FRAUD. keep making xcuses with oil price when the subsidy has been almost removed, what of TSA? They wil keep tellin us dumb things cos dumb ppl stil xsist.

1.You did not have to insult me.

2.Well, our economy is dependent on oil, so once oil prices fall, our economy falls with it. We have been there before....in the 1980's.

3.As for electricity...

a) A large percentage of Nigerians and government agencies do not pay light bills....hampering funding of the sector.(We need meters, really....)

b) What makes things worse is that we actually need trillions to get light working 24/7. (That is part of the reason why GEJ privatized power...because he felt the private sector had a better chance of raising the funds.)

4.Thing is, I am not particularly fond of this govt's economic polices. They seem to be more fixated on getting the oil prices up....which won't happen again (because everyone now produces oil....OPEC is not as powerful as they used to be )...than getting Nigeria diversified.

But even then, diversification is going to take ages.It isn't a one year thing.

And anyway, our budget since 2015...has been lean because...oil has been falling (GEJ's minister of Finance Okonjo-Iweala warned Nigerians in 2015 to expect hard times due to the falling oil price...whoever was in charge.).

5.I guess that one way out of the recession is to actually reduce taxes, and increase government spending. Won't work in Nigeria for two reasons

i) Many Nigerians would save, rather than spend...thus negating any attempt to stimulate the economy.

ii) And anyway, where are we going to get the extra money from? Our budget is tied to the oil price....and with oil prices falling PLUS the fact that we are paying off loans from the past, and taking new ones now....where is the money going to come from? (Answer...another loan...which means more burdens for our grandchildren).

It is a tough road yet...whoever is in charge.

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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Rad1cal: 9:59am On Dec 02, 2016
Doyin2:
[s]The headline is very misleading and probably mischievous.
FG did not slash salary,it only applied the appropriate tax mechanism.The shenanigans of the past must not continue,very much inline with the Change agenda[/s]!

dustydee:

[s]If the FG had not been deducting the correct taxes before and decided to start deducting it now without asking for arrears, why are they claiming their salary was slashed?[/s]

A slash in 50% of the salaries doesn't ring a bell right ? Why are you all so unjust and insensitive ? angry

What kind of tax deductions will half someone salaries in Nigeria.

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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by rabs(m): 10:00am On Dec 02, 2016
for me am still awaiting for my November salary to see if my cash was deducted
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Nobody: 10:13am On Dec 02, 2016
dustydee:

So if 10k is deducted from source instead of 20k on a 100k salary given the worker a net pay of 90k and the government realises and decides to deduct the full tax of 20k giving a net of 80k, how does that amount to a slash?
I am afraid Seunmsg you quoted is right.


Read Seummsg's message again. Civil servants do not have a choice on whether to pay taxes or not. Their taxes are deducted at source. This means that telling them to pay their taxes is missinformation because they do not have control over tax deductions. Moreover, is there any upward review of personal income tax?

Please go and verify, many fg workers including lecturers are paid not full salaries presently. Rather, they are paid a certain percentage of the remuneration and this percentage varies.

Investigate my friend, move around, ask questions please.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by seunmsg(m): 10:14am On Dec 02, 2016
chrismilayo2:


You are getting some facts wrong. As a medical doctor my call duty allowance is not taxable by law, but the government has been been doing it. There was a 43k reduction in my salary this month, add to the the previous deductions prior to November, my tax per month runs into close to or above 100k .
So by touching my call duty they are not implementing the law properly.

Which part of the PITA provides that your call duty allowance is exempted from taxation?
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by seunmsg(m): 10:16am On Dec 02, 2016
frisky2good:
The Personal Income Tax (Amendment) Act, 2011 is an act of law and that is what we have been using since 2011. If the president feels it should be changed, it can only be done through the national assembly. This is a democracy so you people should begin to act like we are in a democracy and stop defending all these blatant regard for due process.


To be best of my knowledge, the PITA has not been amended, government is only enforcing full compliance.

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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by seunmsg(m): 10:19am On Dec 02, 2016
jusRadical:





Please talking nonsense. Civil servants do not pay their taxes directly. The govt deducts their taxes at source.

At source means that their taxes are removed and so also pension, loans, etc by the accounts dept before they are paid.

Many companies do that also.

Stop displaying you ignorance.
St

If accounts department refuse to deduct the accurate taxes for years and government finds out later, is it not normal for government to correct the under deduction?

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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by mapet: 10:20am On Dec 02, 2016
jusRadical:





Please talking nonsense. Civil servants do not pay their taxes directly. The govt deducts their taxes at source.

At source means that their taxes are removed and so also pension, loans, etc by the accounts dept before they are paid.

Many companies do that also.

Stop displaying you ignorance.
St

Bros,

What have you said differently? undecided
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by mapet: 10:22am On Dec 02, 2016
HAH:
This report is misleading, it shows as if all FG workers salaries were slashed, while the truth is deduction being made as most FG staff were not being done to them and this was implemented now. Every worker in government or organised private sector must see the detection in the memo above, the question why was VON not being deducted hitherto

My questions exactly
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by oskaaay(m): 10:24am On Dec 02, 2016
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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by MRLANNISTER(m): 10:24am On Dec 02, 2016
richidinho:
There are more than 1m mansions in Abuja alone that can be taxed, but they wont because it belongs to the rich alone, but you see them busy rolling out stewpid policies that will make the poor more poorer

Ewu govt!

This is not a new policy. The cevil servants were only implementing the tax codes on private sectors only. They have been carefully avoiding paying tax the legal way. All the government has done is to do the right thing.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by mapet: 10:24am On Dec 02, 2016
chrismilayo2:


You are getting some facts wrong. As a medical doctor my call duty allowance is not taxable by law, but the government has been been doing it. There was a 43k reduction in my salary this month, add to the the previous deductions prior to November, my tax per month runs into close to or above 100k .
So by touching my call duty they are not implementing the law properly.



Can the NMA seek arbitration for this? But taxes are complex and you need experts to interprete it. The simple rule of thumb is that anything above N16,000 should be taxed. When LSIRS swooped in on us some years ago, virtually everything was brought under the tax bracket

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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Nobody: 10:25am On Dec 02, 2016
DjAndroid:


As a civil servant how are you supposed to personally pay your taxes?


Please ask am ooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by seunmsg(m): 10:26am On Dec 02, 2016
adedayoa2:
but you and i know that our taxes are been deducted even before we get paid. Now tell me who's at fault? The payer of the payee?

In the implementation of PAYE under PITA, the responsibility to deduct and remit is that of the employer, whether private or public. However, FIRS and other relevant state internal revenue services have the powers to review and audit the remittance to ensure the deduction is in line with the provisions of the PITA. If it was found that the taxes were been under deducted, they can order and enforce full deduction in compliance with the law. So, to answer your question, the various MDA's that under deducted staff taxes should be blamed.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by mapet: 10:27am On Dec 02, 2016
DjAndroid:


seunmsg: :
Implementing the law properly should not be termed as salary reduction. My salary was not reduced in any way because I have been paying my full tax previously. People should pay their taxes accordingly and stop complaining and misinforming the public.
As a civil servant how are you supposed to personally pay your taxes?

@DJAndriod,

It beat me that you do not understand what he meant when he said "pay your taxes". Every worker operates under PAYE, so your question is irrelevant. You people need to either develop comprehension skills.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by aboveu(m): 10:28am On Dec 02, 2016
So we are not taking any step to stop this Man (Buhari) before things get out of hand?
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by mapet: 10:28am On Dec 02, 2016
Integrity123:
The deductions are statutory so there should no media or press war over this. Thank God they are not told to pay unpaid backlogs

You will only see news like these in faceless newspapers and idiotic blogs. Responsible media outlet would have interpreted it right and either determine if the news is worth reporting or not and in what way it should be framed
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Nobody: 10:28am On Dec 02, 2016
k2kay:
To say this Buhari govt is clueless as to how to get us out of this recession is an understatement. This clearly shows his cabinet is constituted of dunce and dullards of which he is number one. HOW DO YOU GET AN ECONOMY OUT OF RECESSION?
1. Increase government spending.
2. Tax cuts.

OK, that's good....


By increasing government spending, government saves the idle production outputs and hence sustain the production activities. The continued productions benefits people by giving them wages, interest, rent, and profits. In the end, people's income and buying power increase.

Except that the government does not have the cash to give.

Oil prices, and oil output have fallen from $100 in 2014 to $30 11 months ago (now it is $50). We no longer have the income to fund extra government spending.

Secondly by cutting the tax, government let people have more disposable income. Disposable income is an income AFTER tax. The intention for a more disposable income is that people are able to spend more in the markets and hence sustain the economy.
How people still support this man vehemently gives me the creeps, the man is clueless, doesn't take to correction, dull and evil...simple!!

Problem is, in a recession, if you offer tax cuts, you end up with people saving more...and spending less....thus negating the possible positive effects of increased disposable income.

Add the fact that we are still heavily dependent on imports....which means money flying out...and even if Nigerians spend more...more money in the form of hard currency will fly out. (We no longer have enough hard currency to buffer the naira)....leading to more problem for the economy.

Either oil goes up to $100 and higher again, or we take another IMF loan, or we tighten our seat-belts more.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by entrepreneurmic: 10:28am On Dec 02, 2016
devilson:
Buhari keep making life difficult for the masses,that punk talking about tax av u forgotten tax are being deducted before salary get played,u won't remember that cause It's ur god Buhari Nd he can never go wrong.
why can't he reduce his own salary nd that of senators,house of rep Nd co.

God will judge Buhari Nd all this psycho's support this inhuman policy made by buhari.

gej bleeped up but buhari is worst he his killing the masses
WHO CARES ABOUT ABOUT THEIR PEANUTS THEY CALLED SALARY WHEN MMM IS POSITIVELY CHANGING THE LIVES OF THE MASSES. SHINE YOUR EYES.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by mapet: 10:33am On Dec 02, 2016
DjAndroid:


Yes IPPIS has been paying since 2012. Why is it now that the govt discovered that the civil servants are wrongly taxed? (now that they are looking for a way to tax everything)


.....and does this question invalidate the need to interpret the tax laws properly? Bros, apart from understanding that there is room for error, there is also provision for proper interpretation of the law. If it has been done wrongly in the past, then there should be a time to correct it.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Nobody: 10:33am On Dec 02, 2016
devilson:
Buhari keep making life difficult for the masses,that punk talking about tax av u forgotten tax are being deducted before salary get played,u won't remember that cause It's ur god Buhari Nd he can never go wrong.
why can't he reduce his own salary nd that of senators,house of rep Nd co.

God will judge Buhari Nd all this psycho's support this inhuman policy made by buhari.

gej bleeped up but buhari is worst he his killing the masses

Well....we can deduct the taxes of the rich political elite (I think it is a good idea) but in the long run, it won't make much difference....so long as we are not earning enough revenue from oil, and actively fighting corruption.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by mapet: 10:35am On Dec 02, 2016
Sophious:


You claim to be FG staff and say this. Do you know the difference between consolidated and gross. Who taxes the small allowances workers still get? Chains..... This means I pay for my pension and NHF from my housing allowance ( the only allowance I see on my payslip since all other allowances have been consolidated. )

The tax laws says those allowances should be taxed. Even those of us in the private sector pay taxes on allowances, even Christman bonus
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Rad1cal: 10:36am On Dec 02, 2016
mapet:


@DJAndriod,

It beat me that you do not understand what he meant when he said "pay your taxes". Every worker operates under PAYE, so your question is irrelevant. You people need to either develop comprehension skills.

You are the one who needs to refine your comprehension skills here. You simply said nothing.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by k2kay(m): 10:36am On Dec 02, 2016
9jakohai:


OK, that's good....




Except that the government does not have the cash to give.

Oil prices, and oil output have fallen from $100 in 2014 to $30 11 months ago (now it is $50). We no longer have the income to fund extra government spending.



Problem is, in a recession, if you offer tax cuts, you end up with people saving more...and spending less....thus negating the possible positive effects of increased disposable income.

Add the fact that we are still heavily dependent on imports....which means money flying out...and even if Nigerians spend more...more money in the form of hard currency will fly out. (We no longer have enough hard currency to buffer the naira)....leading to more problem for the economy.

Either oil goes up to $100 and higher again, or we take another IMF loan, or we tighten our seat-belts more.
I quite agree with your submission, but the various funds the govt claimed to have saved and recovered, where are they and what are they been used for? Surely, It can be used to increase govt spending. Moreover, That we refuse to look beyond oil is an indictment itself.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by mapet: 10:41am On Dec 02, 2016
Rad1cal:


You are the one who needs to refine your comprehension skills here. You simply said nothing.

You are trying to jump into discussion beyond your intellect as always
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Rad1cal: 10:44am On Dec 02, 2016
mapet:


You are trying to jump into discussion beyond your intellect as always

Humour me please, what kind of tax deductions will amount to a 50% slash in salaries in Nigeria. Am waiting for that silly explanation . Earn your pay by explaining that to us.

Even some prominent universities have been earning half salaries for a while now.

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