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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Spy360(m): 8:35pm On Apr 01, 2017
rabcnesbit:


Just as you have already been advised, it is paramount you establish that you are dealing with the right group ('omo nile'), else you end up being approached by different groups looking to extort. The amount is determinable by the area, how greedy the extortionist are etc Be prepared to pay more eventually as I will be damned if this will be their final demand, as their modus operandi is to demand at every stage of the building work - foundation, decking, roofing, plastering etc They are no different to the likes of the Italian Mafia, Chinese Triads, Russian Mafia etc protection racketeers! As a comparable, I paid 250k for foundation and 240k for decking for mine in Sango Ota, and waiting to be slapped with further demands!!!
Cc: Johnson232, Diordaves...

Thanks brothers, I am kind of encouraged by your advice.

My mind is at peace now.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by HazzanTazzan(m): 9:36pm On Apr 01, 2017
EgunMogaji:


Yah next month. You know, even though it drives some folks up the wall on here, but I do have a method, schedule, and process to my build that I follow grin

Hope you find the right tiles and at palatable prices. Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do during these times.

Thanks man...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:54pm On Apr 01, 2017
HazzanTazzan:


Thanks man...


You're welcome but I would ask that you try to push your project forward as much as you can despite the FX issues (if that's alongst your plans).

Good luck.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by HazzanTazzan(m): 9:59pm On Apr 01, 2017
EgunMogaji:


You're welcome but I would ask that you try to push your project forward as much as you can despite the FX issues (if that's alongst your plans).

Good luck.

That's the plan but the quote for tiling a 3 bedroom flat running into 800k is something else for me right now...

Make I just dey look baba God

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rabcnesbit: 10:17pm On Apr 01, 2017
diordaves:


If it includes the final finish and the laite work for the architrave, then 7k per frame is good. But this is average price. It may be more depending on the sophistication of your build. The truth is tradesmen will invoice you relative to the level of finish you are aiming for. So if you're putting up a cut and join kind of build, tradesmen will tend to invoice you less. I'm currently putting together my wooden doors in Warri Delta State for Mahogany wood, the cost is just under 8k per frame finish and to hang the doors is 3.7k per door.

So ask if your 11k includes hanging. I will advice you do it per frame. Don't bother with material, deliver frame as specified at say 9k finish.

Now does he need two pieces per frame? The answer is no and yes. So ask for the drawings​, labelling and measurements of the frame and everything will become clearer.

Many thanks for the advice smiley
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bandwidth: 10:17pm On Apr 01, 2017
Hello
Please I need to know what the possibility of having a parapet in a bungalow without pillars from foundation is. Kindly advise.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 7:30am On Apr 02, 2017
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Hello
Please I need to know what the possibility of having a parapet in a bungalow without pillars from foundation is. Kindly advise.

Parapets are planned from the start of any project, pillars are planned in important parts of the building to support the extra weight. But if you didnt plan this from the beginning, you can still add a parapet after careful reinforcements are done. Make sure to consult a professional to visit the site and advice you on the right steps to take.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 7:34am On Apr 02, 2017
spyder880:


Parapets are planned from the start of any project, pillars are planned in important parts of the building to support the extra weight. But if you didnt plan this from the beginning, you can still add a parapet after careful reinforcements are done. Make sure to consult a professional to visit the site and advice you on the right steps to take.
How possible is the bold sir?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 7:50am On Apr 02, 2017
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Hello
Please I need to know what the possibility of having a parapet in a bungalow without pillars from foundation is. Kindly advise.

I think somebody (desiji) did the same thing.He did gave a reason though. You might want to go through this link for more info https://www.nairaland.com/3285011/nigeria-retirement-home-mastering-odyssee
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 10:16am On Apr 02, 2017
johnson232:

How possible is the bold sir?

It is very possible, but I am adding a small warning, bring a professional to look at what had been done before you continue.

Only a professional with good knowledge of structures will give you the right answers after a site visit.

I can start to explain the processes but without seeing things as it is and asking the right questions, but the recommendations might be incomplete.

But don't be discouraged, it is possible.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 10:30am On Apr 02, 2017
spyder880:


It is very possible, but I am adding a small warning, bring a professional to look at what had been done before you continue.

Only a professional with good knowledge of structures will give you the right answers after a site visit.

I can start to explain the processes but without seeing things as it is and asking the right questions, but the recommendations might be incomplete.

But don't be discouraged, it is possible.
thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:56pm On Apr 02, 2017
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Hello
Please I need to know what the possibility of having a parapet in a bungalow without pillars from foundation is. Kindly advise.

It's possible but I wouldn't even consider the concrete ones.

I'll be doing parapets as an afterthought on my bungalow. Even though I have some pillars but I'll be using either aluminum or foam parapets.

AbdulWastecx is the el maestro on this, maybe he'll chime in.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 12:57pm On Apr 02, 2017
diordaves:


No let am pain you. It is what it is. Normally, there is no set rule or "standard" price for protection money AKA Development Levy. But the rate will always reflect the cultural dynamics of the place with regards to economic contribution of the locality to the national cake. The level of contribution the locality contributes to the national cake without commensurate or visible development, the more the youths are restless with mega self-entitlement; the more the youths will demand in development money. The youths in Niger Delta will command more development levy than the youths in for example Kwara or the youths in Onitsha will command more to Mbaise.

Another price determinant is the level of infrastructure of the locality. If the locality is fully built or near fully built the youths will ask for more. So talk to your neighbours and ask around, you will be better informed if 150k is good or you need to do more with diplomacy and bargaining. One thing is certain, pay but pay the right group. I've witnessed N1m development levy in Niger Delta. Did I pay? What do you think.........
.#1m development levy in Niger Delta.......did you win a government contract or what? Please where in ND to be specific?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 1:18pm On Apr 02, 2017
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Hello
Please I need to know what the possibility of having a parapet in a bungalow without pillars from foundation is. Kindly advise.
. You will have to introduce columns/pillars from the point of your foundation blinding.A good iron bender will guide you as to the points depending on the span of your structure.I want to assume you did full chaining on the external walls of the structure.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:30pm On Apr 02, 2017
bixton:
.#1m development levy in Niger Delta.......did you win a government contract or what? Please where in ND to be specific?

I was quoted 2.5M naira for devy and total cut off for 4units of 3 bedroom flat in Warri, but we succeeded in paying around 1.5M naira, thank God the job has been completed.
Bros, those guys are jobless, they see it as an avenue to take their share.
It is very possible pls .

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 1:40pm On Apr 02, 2017
segzy14:


I was quoted 2.5M naira for devy and total cut off for 4units of 3 bedroom flat in Warri, but we succeeded in paying around 1.5M naira, thank God the job has been completed.
Bros, those guys are jobless, they see it as an avenue to take their share.
It is very possible pls .
. All thanks to God the work is completed. As a general guide when building in such places or in areas where such canny practices exists kindly get the the original owners who sold the land to your client to do the supply of your building materials(blocks, sand, granite), that way you will not likely dole out that amount of money to people who claim to be collecting devy.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 6:02pm On Apr 02, 2017
johnson232:

How possible is the bold sir?
Main things that needs to be checked are you block strenght and the way they are keyed into each other and the total height of the building . You can still add your concrete parapet to the building without adding addition columns.
If the building headroom is double volume you should add columns very key.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:21pm On Apr 02, 2017
bixton:
. You will have to introduce columns/pillars from the point of your foundation blinding.A good iron bender will guide you as to the points depending on the span of your structure.I want to assume you did full chaining on the external walls of the structure.

No no no.

First, he needs a site inspection by a licensed structural engineer who will do some calculations.

Then a licensed architect needs to review the plans based on suggestions set forth therein by the structural engineer.

Then a licensed iron bender with a metallurgist degree from anywhere except that school that Dino attended should create the requisite iron works.

Then a licensed carpenter should select woof of the finest structural grain to make concrete forms.

Then a licensed builder needs to do the aforementioned work as prescribed by the architect

But the concrete mix should be inspected by a state laboratory to ensure strength before pouring.

Above all, all this must be supervised by a professional site inspector that is also licensed.

Anything other than this and the OP is just wasting his money and shouldn't be cheap and he won't get ripped off by quacks. You know we just hate when people share their stories on here when they get taken.

Nigerians and their shortcuts angry

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 6:26pm On Apr 02, 2017
bixton:
. All thanks to God the work is completed. As a general guide when building in such places or in areas where such canny practices exists kindly get the the original owners who sold the land to your client to do the supply of your building materials(blocks, sand, granite), that way you will not likely dole out that amount of money to people who claim to be collecting devy.

Very wrong advice for Niger Delta. Don't even think about it in Warri, Uvwie or even Okpe. If you adopt this approach, you will pay more than it will take to build your structure. This is the reason people pay 'cut-off'.

Do you know what it means that you MUST buy your materials from just one set of individuals and at any price you were dictated to? Most times you are also compulsorily supplied labour as well.

Very wrong advice. Pay the devy levy, pay the cut-off; Peaceful construction till completion.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 6:36pm On Apr 02, 2017
akinolaolujide:

Main things that needs to be checked are you block strenght and the way they are keyed into each other and the total height of the building . You can still add your concrete parapet to the building without adding addition columns.
If the building headroom is double volume you should add columns very key.
Thanks...but what do u mean by the bold sir?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 6:41pm On Apr 02, 2017
bixton:
. You will have to introduce columns/pillars from the point of your foundation blinding.A good iron bender will guide you as to the points depending on the span of your structure.I want to assume you did full chaining on the external walls of the structure.
i think having columns from blinding is just same as foundation, digging the column base shouldn't be a big deal...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 7:19pm On Apr 02, 2017
johnson232:

Thanks...but what do u mean by the bold sir?
When the floor to ceiling height is more than 3.9m or 13feet
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by write2obi(m): 7:34pm On Apr 02, 2017
HazzanTazzan:


That's the plan but the quote for tiling a 3 bedroom flat running into 800k is something else for me right now...

Make I just dey look baba God
How many flats?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 7:41pm On Apr 02, 2017
HMMM THIS Parapet thing got me confused, i am planing a 1 storey building, and i didnt specify to the architect that i would be doing parapet, all the drawings civil-mechanical-electrical are ready, do i take the arguement above to imply that i need further pillars/reinforcement and calculations cos of the parapet??
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by HazzanTazzan(m): 7:42pm On Apr 02, 2017
write2obi:

How many flats?

A single 3 bedroom flat
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 7:44pm On Apr 02, 2017
johnson232:

Thanks...but what do u mean by the bold sir?
When the floor to ceiling height is more than 3.9m or 13feet
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 7:49pm On Apr 02, 2017
[quote author=earthrealm post=55201123]HMMM THIS Parapet thing got me confused, i am planing a 1 storey building, and i didnt specify to the architect that i would be doing parapet, all the drawings civil-mechanical-electrical are ready, do i take the arguement above to imply that i need further pillars/reinforcement and calculations

Have you moved to site? If yes or no ask the Architect and structural engineer for a revised drawings. Cos it might change the way your roof design and the building as a whole will look like. All the best bro.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 7:50pm On Apr 02, 2017
HazzanTazzan:


A single 3 bedroom flat
Are you importing all your tiles and how big is your floir area in SQM?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 7:58pm On Apr 02, 2017
earthrealm:
HMMM THIS Parapet thing got me confused, i am planing a 1 storey building, and i didnt specify to the architect that i would be doing parapet, all the drawings civil-mechanical-electrical are ready, do i take the arguement above to imply that i need further pillars/reinforcement and calculations cos of the parapet??

The question is, are you building a contemporary structure or a modern structure?

Most contemporary structures don't have the need for parapets as their roof are hidden but most modern houses employ the use of parapets to direct the impact of wind away from the roof and also for the structure aesthetic.

I should add,that is my layman's understanding of what a parapet is. I am sure the pro can chip in more..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 8:02pm On Apr 02, 2017
earthrealm:
HMMM THIS Parapet thing got me confused, i am planing a 1 storey building, and i didnt specify to the architect that i would be doing parapet, all the drawings civil-mechanical-electrical are ready, do i take the arguement above to imply that i need further pillars/reinforcement and calculations cos of the parapet??
If its a story building you need to have r.c columns to counter the effect of windloads on your structurel.the higher you go the more your windload
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 8:08pm On Apr 02, 2017
akinolaolujide:

When the floor to ceiling height is more than 3.9m or 13feet
thanks alot
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 8:12pm On Apr 02, 2017
earthrealm:
HMMM THIS Parapet thing got me confused, i am planing a 1 storey building, and i didnt specify to the architect that i would be doing parapet, all the drawings civil-mechanical-electrical are ready, do i take the arguement above to imply that i need further pillars/reinforcement and calculations cos of the parapet??
By storey building u mean it is going to have upper floor...if so i believe the already existing pillars designed to support the structure will serve as support for d parapet.

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