plainbibletruth:


From the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234
"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."
Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""
I hope you will be educated by the above.

plus the above, can you tell me how old was MARY when she married 80 years old Joseph

show me where beheading appeared in the Quran or float out of here!

Amberon11:
Mohammed's killings and beheadings in the Quran too were caused by USA and the Jews right?

iamgenius:
If someone says to u; I am a muslim and he/she failed to believe in one of d six branches of Faith, then bear witness that he's not a muslim truely. One of d six branches of Islamic Faith is " Believe In The Messengers".

The issue is this: Islam says you must not relate anyone with Allah. Yet in your daily prayers you ALWAYS add Mohamed to Allah.
Is that not tantamount to partnering him with Allah?

As a Moslem can you believe in Allah alone and qualify for Paradise?

lfleak:
oo I see... You sound real jealous... I feel your pain..

Now you're trying to ignore the issues I raised.
You will then claim I ran away when you are the one who will soon run away.

Let's reduce it to only this one thing:
Can you as a Moslem believe in and mention ONLY Allah in your prayers and enter Paradise?

plainbibletruth:


Now you're trying to ignore the issues I raised.
You will then claim I ran away when you are the one who will soon run away.

Let's reduce it to only this one thing:
Can you as a Moslem believe in and mention ONLY Allah in your prayers and enter Paradise?

Allah has told us how to pray and its will forever be, no one can change that... If you are so jealous.. Enter the mosque and use ISA

plainbibletruth:


The issue is this: Islam says you must not relate anyone with Allah. Yet in your daily prayers you ALWAYS add Mohamed to Allah.
Is that not tantamount to partnering him with Allah?

As a Moslem can you believe in Allah alone and qualify for Paradise?

gobtard, I beg you, don't reproduce...
You hear Muhammed and Allah whenever Muslims are praying and don't care to know the meanings...

Did you hear them say, Oh Allah and Muhammed are the greatest??
No
It simply states ..

I BELIEVE THERE IS NO GOD EXCEPT ALLAH, AND I BELIEVE MUHAMMED IS ALLAH'S PROPHET... That is how it is and will always be...

lfleak:
gobtard, I beg you, don't reproduce...
You hear Muhammed and Allah whenever Muslims are praying and don't care to know the meanings...

Did you hear them say, Oh Allah and Muhammed are the greatest??
No
It simply states ..

I BELIEVE THERE IS NO GOD EXCEPT ALLAH, AND I BELIEVE MUHAMMED IS ALLAH'S PROPHET... That is how it is and will always be...

So to the extent that you mention ONLY Mohamed DAILY and in your prayers you make him DISTINCT from other prophets.

Prayer is a very serious thing for any religious person.
Therefore what is said in prayer is important.

When you therefore use ONLY the name of Mohamed you're differentiating between him and other prophets.
In fact you're placing him on a higher pedestal than other prophets.

That is the TRUTH even when, because you want to claim some other thing, you deny it is so.

That is why the question is relevant: As a Moslem can you believe in Allah alone and qualify for Paradise?

plainbibletruth:


So to the extent that you mention ONLY Mohamed DAILY and in your prayers you make him DISTINCT from other prophets.

Prayer is a very serious thing for any religious person.
Therefore what is said in prayer is important.

When you therefore use ONLY the name of Mohamed you're differentiating between him and other prophets.
In fact you're placing him on a higher pedestal than other prophets.

That is the TRUTH even when, because you want to claim some other thing, you deny it is so.

That is why the question is relevant: As a Moslem can you believe in Allah alone and qualify for Paradise?

boy o boy... Lemme come to naija level..

Shebi you fit read..

Plenty plenty prophet wet God send, but all of their message na to a specified region... Like Jesus for example na Israel him journey start and end... Moses (Egypt-isreal), Jacob (Canaan) joseph(Egypt) ...among plenty others wet we no know... Quran only mention 25 of them...

But God send Muhammad to all Creations.. You get am? God no send am to a precise place, but general.. And also na him be the last prophet..

hfeetham0

The Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) did not marry Sayyidah Aisha out of his physical desires. One need to note that for first 54 years of his life he had only one wife. His only wife till 50th year of his life was Sayyida Khadija. He spent his entire youth with her and she was a two time widowed woman, 15 years older to him. For next four years his only wife was Sayyidah Sa’uda.

So Mohamed first marries a woman 15 years older than him then decided to go the other way round to one that is more than 40 years younger. interesting!

One must first understand that 1400 years ago was very different than now, times have changed and so have humans. 1400 years ago it was something very common to marry young girls, in fact they were not considered young girls, and rather they were considered young women back then. It is a historic fact that girls from the ages of 9 to 14 were being married in Europe, Asia, and Africa, in fact even in the United States girls at the age of 10 were also being married just more than a century ago.
Yet with these facts no historian claims that all these people were sick perverts, historians would call anyone who made such a claim to be arrogant and very stupid who has no grasp or understanding of history.

So 1400 years ago prophets of God lived a life of pleasure to self (wives, war booties, etc.) not dedication to God?

The fact that it was a completely acceptable thing can also be seen from the response of the pagans at that time. No Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the reason no one objected was to the Prophet’s marriage was:1-People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.2-Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many non-Muslim and Muslim countries

Even when the prophet himself VIOLATED set down rules of no marriage before the girl reaches puberty?

Furthermore as to the Holy Prophet’s marriage with Sayyidah Aisha, something people will notice is that the completion of the marriage was done when Sayyidah Aisha was 9 years old, not when she was 6, and there is a reason for that. The reason why this happened is because Sayyidah Aisha had been through puberty by the age of 9, and in Islam a female who under-goes puberty is considered a lady and is fit for marriage.
If we read the hadiths, we find that right before Sayyidah Aisha got married off to the Holy Prophet that she was sick and not feeling too well:


So as we can see, Sayyidah Aisha got ill and her body was going through some changes, indicating that she was going through her puberty.

Another striking thing to observe is that among hundreds of her narrations there is not even a single one showing her displeasure about this marriage. Hence, she had no problem with this relation. Infect it is manifest from several traditions that she loved the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) too much and even felt some sort of jealousy when she found others around him. Does this not prove that she was extremely happy about this marriage? So, when she herself had no problem at all then what’s the matter of concern for others?

It is interesting that you Moslems have to do a lot of rigmarole to justify your many rituals. You expect a 6 or 9 year old to show DISPLEASURE?

Prophet Muhammad’s marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions. It is important to know that girls during the Biblical and Islamic days used to be married off at young ages when they either had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off. In other words, when they turn into “women”, then they get married off. It was quite different for men on the other hand, because physical power and the ability of living an independent life had always been and will always be a mandatory requirement for men to have in life. So men waited much longer than women in terms of getting married. The guy had to develop both his body and mind before he was ready for marriage. That is why you see girls as young as 9 or 10 were married to men as old as 30 or even older. The culture back then and in many of the world countries today (NON-MUSLIM ONES TOO) is quite different than what you live in today.And there is no divine law which is broken in marrying a girl of nine at any costs.

So even if the girl is still PLAYING WITH DOLLS its ok to marry her off.

Sayyidah Aisha’s mother and the Muslim women back then were O.K with her marriage. It was part of the Arab custom and still is in many of the Muslim and non-Muslim countries today for girls to marry at a very young age. When a girl’s body starts showing up (her breasts and her height and physical size), then she would be ready for marriage
The only reason why Sayyidah Aisha’s father, Abu Baker Al Sidique, broke her engagement with Jober is because he was a non-Muslim. Later, a woman named Kholeah Bint Hakeem suggested for Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to marry Sayyidah Aisha, because the Prophet and Abu Baker became best friends. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) engaged Sayyidah Aisha for 3 years before he married her.

Had there been any bad thinking regarding this marriage in minds of the people at that time. Muslims would have tried there best to conceal at that time. But they didn’t.

Who dared to question the "Prophet of God"?

There were many baseless traditions in practice among the Arabs in those days. So Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was usually ordered by the Almighty ALLAH to refute such traditions through personal examples. Similar is the case of Prophet Muhammad’s marriage with Umm al Momineen Aisha (R.A.)

There were also traditions and practices among the Arabs of those days that Mohamed imported into Islam. The Kaaba existed before Mohamed's Islam. The stone worship also. The pilgrimages too. Even during the time of Mohamed the Polytheists worked hand in hand with Moslems.

INDEED ALLAH KNOWS THE BEST!!!

Moslems' usual fall-back position!
Didn't Allah reveal a clear book for all to live by?
If we cannot get CLARITY from the 'clear' book then something must be wrong.

lfleak:
boy o boy... Lemme come to naija level..

Shebi you fit read..

Plenty plenty prophet wet God send, but all of their message na to a specified region... Like Jesus for example na Israel him journey start and end... Moses (Egypt-isreal), Jacob (Canaan) joseph(Egypt) ...among plenty others wet we no know... Quran only mention 25 of them...

But God send Muhammad to all Creations.. You get am? God no send am to a precise place, but general.. And also na him be the last prophet..

I thought the level of the question was simple enough.

Here it is again:
As a Moslem can you believe in Allah alone and qualify for Paradise?

plainbibletruth:


I thought the level of the question was simple enough.

Here it is again:
As a Moslem can you believe in Allah alone and qualify for Paradise?

I have answered this several times. NO

plainbibletruth:
hfeetham0
So Mohamed first marries a woman 15 years older than him then decided to go the other way round to one that is more than 40 years younger. interesting!

So 1400 years ago prophets of God lived a life of pleasure to self (wives, war booties, etc.) not dedication to God?

Even when the prophet himself VIOLATED set down rules of no marriage before the girl reaches puberty?

It is interesting that you Moslems have to do a lot of rigmarole to justify your many rituals. You expect a 6 or 9 year old to show DISPLEASURE?

So even if the girl is still PLAYING WITH DOLLS its ok to marry her off.

Who dared to question the "Prophet of God"?

There were also traditions and practices among the Arabs of those days that Mohamed imported into Islam. The Kaaba existed before Mohamed's Islam. The stone worship also. The pilgrimages too. Even during the time of Mohamed the Polytheists worked hand in hand with Moslems.

Moslems' usual fall-back position!
Didn't Allah reveal a clear book for all to live by?
If we cannot get CLARITY from the 'clear' book then something must be wrong.

Call ur parents tell em u made it!

hfeetham0:
Call ur parents tell em u made it!

ouch! Savage..

branhampaul:
Middle Age jihads, boko haram, isis. all of them are islamic groups.

The actions of all of the groups mentioned above are clearly not supported in Islam, by the way who says the haven't killed Muslims in their quest for blood.

lfleak:
I have answered this several times. NO

You answered NO because:
The Moslem Creed puts Mohamed alongside Allah. This means Islam requires a belief in Allah as well as BELIEF IN A MAN.

Belief in Allah ALONE is not sufficient. The focus of the Moslem is therefore not DIRECTED AT ONE GOD but on him PLUS another person - Mohamed. Q. 49:15

This then makes Islam inextricably tied to a man; the man Mohamed.

Islam INSISTS that Mohamed MUST be obeyed. This again means that other than Allah a man is given a position of a deity because it's ONLY a deity that it can be said MUST be obeyed.

Islam states that disobedience to Allah and Mohamed leads to hell. Q. 4:14 So Allah and Mohamed are again placed at par as NOT OBEYING EITHER ONE of them leads to hell.

For a religion that PRIDES itself in being MONOTHEISTIC it's interesting that some other person APART from Allah MUST be the focus of attention ALL THE TIME.

Moslems are ACTUALLY doing exactly what they loudly proclaim must not be done and what they constantly accuse others of - obedience and focus on more than one God.

plainbibletruth:


You answered NO because:
The Moslem Creed puts Mohamed alongside Allah. This means Islam requires a belief in Allah as well as BELIEF IN A MAN.

Belief in Allah ALONE is not sufficient. The focus of the Moslem is therefore not DIRECTED AT ONE GOD but on him PLUS another person - Mohamed. Q. 49:15

This then makes Islam inextricably tied to a man; the man Mohamed.

Islam INSISTS that Mohamed MUST be obeyed. This again means that other than Allah a man is given a position of a deity because it's ONLY a deity that it can be said MUST be obeyed.

Islam states that disobedience to Allah and Mohamed leads to hell. Q. 4:14 So Allah and Mohamed are again placed at par as NOT OBEYING EITHER ONE of them leads to hell.

For a religion that PRIDES itself in being MONOTHEISTIC it's interesting that some other person APART from Allah MUST be the focus of attention ALL THE TIME.

Moslems are ACTUALLY doing exactly what they loudly proclaim must not be done and what they constantly accuse others of - obedience and focus on more than one God.

if there is something I must compare to your brain.. It should be dust...

WE BELIEVE THAT MUHAMMED IS A PROPHET OF GOD means he is in per with God right?

Stop living in the past, come just us in the future gobtard!

Veneration of Man

The Moslem Creed puts Mohamed alongside Allah. This means Islam requires a belief in Allah as well as BELIEF IN A MAN
.

Belief in Allah ALONE is not sufficient. The focus of the Moslem is therefore not DIRECTED AT ONE GOD but on him PLUS another person - Mohamed. Q. 49:15

This then makes Islam inextricably tied to a man; the man Mohamed.

Islam INSISTS that Mohamed MUST be obeyed. This again means that other than Allah a man is given a position of a deity because it's ONLY a deity that it can be said MUST be obeyed.

Islam states that disobedience to Allah and Mohamed leads to hell. Q. 4:14 So Allah and Mohamed are again placed at par as NOT OBEYING EITHER ONE of them leads to hell.

For a religion that PRIDES itself in being MONOTHEISTIC it's interesting that some other person APART from Allah MUST be the focus of attention ALL THE TIME.

Moslems are ACTUALLY doing exactly what they loudly proclaim must not be done and what they constantly accuse others of - obedience and focus on more than one God.

lfleak:
if there is something I must compare to your brain.. It should be dust...

WE BELIEVE THAT MUHAMMED IS A PROPHET OF GOD means he is in per with God right?

Stop living in the past, come just us in the future gobtard!

If you don't obey Mohamed - Hell.

If you must go to Paradise - obey Mohamed.

If you obey Allah ALONE - Hell.

And your brain still thinks you're not equating him with God?

plainbibletruth:


If you don't obey Mohamed - Hell.

If you must go to Paradise - obey Mohamed.

If you obey Allah ALONE - Hell.

And your brain still thinks you're not equating him with God?

believe him as what? God or prophet of God?

plainbibletruth:
hfeetham0


So Mohamed first marries a woman 15 years older than him then decided to go the other way round to one that is more than 40 years younger. interesting!


So 1400 years ago prophets of God lived a life of pleasure to self (wives, war booties, etc.) not dedication to God?



Even when the prophet himself VIOLATED set down rules of no marriage before the girl reaches puberty?


It is interesting that you Moslems have to do a lot of rigmarole to justify your many rituals. You expect a 6 or 9 year old to show DISPLEASURE?


So even if the girl is still PLAYING WITH DOLLS its ok to marry her off.


Who dared to question the "Prophet of God"?


There were also traditions and practices among the Arabs of those days that Mohamed imported into Islam. The Kaaba existed before Mohamed's Islam. The stone worship also. The pilgrimages too. Even during the time of Mohamed the Polytheists worked hand in hand with Moslems.


Moslems' usual fall-back position!
Didn't Allah reveal a clear book for all to live by?
If we cannot get CLARITY from the 'clear' book then something must be wrong.

how old was the mother of Jesus..Mary when she was married to 90 year old Joseph??

TalkIslam:
Salam!

"Insha Allah" may Allah increase you in knowledge.

in the quran,Mohammed himself called Jesus "The Messiah'. Also in the quran, Jesus is mentioned as the ONLY one that will fight the anti-Christ in the last days....so why didnt the quran choose Mohammed for this task?? Because Jesus is more than a Prophet. And these are facts in the quran. Google will assist you...

The Bible is filled with examples of the word "LOVE". Can anyone show me anywhere in the quran that the words of LOVE exist

tiger28:
in the quran,Mohammed himself called Jesus "The Messiah'. Also in the quran, Jesus is mentioned as the ONLY one that will fight the anti-Christ in the last days....so why didnt the quran choose Mohammed for this task?? Because Jesus is more than a Prophet. And these are facts in the quran. Google will assist you...

baba watch video..you should be civil enough to watch

tiger28:
in the quran,Mohammed himself called Jesus "The Messiah'. Also in the quran, Jesus is mentioned as the ONLY one that will fight the anti-Christ in the last days....so why didnt the quran choose Mohammed for this task?? Because Jesus is more than a Prophet. And these are facts in the quran. Google will assist you...

Boy, download a Quran app from playstore, then search for LOVE in the app. I'm glad to tell you that one of d first results will be LOVE OF GOD(ALLAH).

lfleak:
how old was the mother of Jesus..Mary when she was married to 90 year old Joseph??

You Moslems sure enjoy dodging issues.
You must have been taught well how to cleverly and dishonestly avoid issues. You are as EVASIVE as Mohamed was when he was asked to produce supernatural proof of his prophethood.

Do you expect more high moral standards from a "PROPHET" as opposed a common person?
Is the "best example of proper ethical and moral behavior for mankind" to be compared with any other common man?

If you want us to accept the morality of every Jones and Joseph for your "model" then what are you telling us? Are you not then contradicting yourself?

A best example should STAND OUT. If you then want us to equate him with every commoner then what right do you have to claim that he is to be emulated?

plainbibletruth:


You Moslems sure enjoy dodging issues.
You must have been taught well how to cleverly and dishonestly avoid issues. You are as EVASIVE as Mohamed was when he was asked to produce supernatural proof of his prophethood.

Do you expect more high moral standards from a "PROPHET" as opposed a common person?
Is the "best example of proper ethical and moral behavior for mankind" to be compared with any other common man?

If you want us to accept the morality of every Jones and Joseph for your "model" then what are you telling us? Are you not then contradicting yourself?

A best example should STAND OUT. If you then want us to equate him with every commoner then what right do you have to claim that he is to be emulated?

ok, Continue. So the prophet(peace be upon him) didnt show any proof of his prophethood? U need to read history, not just what any dick and harry wrote on the internet, and u just copy and past. British Slave

iamgenius:
ok, Continue. So the prophet(peace be upon him) didnt show any proof of his prophethood? U need to read history, not just what any dick and harry wrote on the internet, and u just copy and past. British Slave

There you again, confirming what I just wrote.

Why Don't you take some and go through the posts to see the flow.

When you're too quick to respond you may showing the kind of person you are.

Either address the issue or keep quiet. Ok?

plainbibletruth:


There you again, confirming what I just wrote.

Why Don't you take some and go through the posts to see the flow.

When you're too quick to respond you may showing the kind of person you are.

Either address the issue or keep quiet. Ok?

Read it well.

Quran 8:12 – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”.

So striking off heads isn't beheading to you right? Float out!!

hfeetham0:
show me where beheading appeared in the Quran or float out of here!

plainbibletruth:


You Moslems sure enjoy dodging issues.
You must have been taught well how to cleverly and dishonestly avoid issues. You are as EVASIVE as Mohamed was when he was asked to produce supernatural proof of his prophethood.

Do you expect more high moral standards from a "PROPHET" as opposed a common person?
Is the "best example of proper ethical and moral behavior for mankind" to be compared with any other common man?

If you want us to accept the morality of every Jones and Joseph for your "model" then what are you telling us? Are you not then contradicting yourself?

A best example should STAND OUT. If you then want us to equate him with every commoner then what right do you have to claim that he is to be emulated?

have you answered my question? How old was Mary?

Amberon11:
Quran 8:12 – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”.

So striking off heads isn't beheading to you right? Float out!!

mumu
The same way you have brought out this verse.. Bring the rest starting from verse 9...
The verse is simply talking of the war of badr ...

Thr problem with you lots is not being able to converse intellectually without throwing tantrums and insults like a convulsing kid.

I knew you would deny but that was pretty much expected. What is my business with 9 and how does it relate to a verse which clearly says "behead non-muslims"?

That verse calls for the beheading of non-muslims and whether you choose to deny it a million times is entirely your headache and pls exit mentions as I won't read nor reply you any further.

lfleak:
mumu
The same way you have brought out this verse.. Bring the rest starting from verse 9...
The verse is simply talking of the war of badr ...