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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by Olasco93: 7:44am On Oct 09, 2017
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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by ultron12345: 7:46am On Oct 09, 2017
Bullhari007:
Good one jecob Zuma for not giving him soft landing, Good one RSA for rejecting this scammer.. no Paddy paddy business in south... cement suppose to be the cheapest building material in Nigeria... how do he intends to survive when cement is sold for 10Rand less than 1500 naira.. this dangote is enjoying government monopoly at expense of suffering masses... imaging one mountain Ediot saying we should patronize dangote so he will retain the title of richest black man, cowardly , bill gate, Ortega ,zuckerberg etc does not build their empire with peoples sweat... remove monopoly dangote is nothing,
keep quiet, which monopoly, in Nigeria is there no bua, lafage, Unicem, ccnn and others, is he not making and selling cement in 17 other African countries (including South Africa, he just wanted to buy this firm to increase his market share), or are u saying the government of each of these 17 countries gave him monopoly as well.......don't go and work, be there spewing trash, envy and hatred.

If you think cement should be sold at N200 per bag, then build your cement plant and sell at that price, naturally, consumers will leave dangotes product and patronize yours

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by TheSCRYPT: 7:46am On Oct 09, 2017
Esseite:
Did you notice how all notable top executives of dangote are expatriates and very sound Nigerians?

No national quota system because he wants the best and to deliver the best.


Expatriates or greedy blood sucking Olmecs?
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by Nobody: 7:47am On Oct 09, 2017
cescky:
sad

No room for naija style manipulation of stocks and monopoly tongue

Haba!! Funny u
Its beyond wat you r thinking.
He could not agree to their price and besides,his strategic thinking room said it won't make biz sense npw
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by Nobody: 7:48am On Oct 09, 2017
nnokwa042:
ur liying dangote staffs re 85 percent northerners,back to the matter dangote think say south africa na nigeria where goverment will ban cements of dangote competitors like obasanjo banned ibeto cement

The 85% dont dictate the tune...
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by Nobody: 7:49am On Oct 09, 2017
TheSCRYPT:


Expatriates or greedy blood sucking Olmecs?

They are doing a very good job.. he sees beyond quota system.

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by joebeckz(m): 7:58am On Oct 09, 2017
nnokwa042:
ur liying dangote staffs re 85 percent northerners,back to the matter dangote think say south africa na nigeria where goverment will ban cements of dangote competitors like obasanjo banned ibeto cement
not true, in numbers, yes because the northerners do the menial jobs. His truck drivers are illiterate hausas, his marketers are mostly southerners with good grades and good marketing skills and a few northerners for the northern states. His sales directors are all southerners with exception of North East director who is a northerner. U know why already, the volatile nature of the North East. I'm not from the north but I worked there and I have been to almost all the regions. The Dangote family are part of the business for some reasons, which is not to give him headache. Dangotes biggest distributor DC okika is igbo, his top 6 are from the south, he doesn't joke with them. Giwa dynamics use to top but has far dropped. Do not speak of what you barely know nothing about. Have a lovely day

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by TheSCRYPT: 8:01am On Oct 09, 2017
Esseite:


They are doing a very good job.. he sees beyond quota system.

Yes doing a good job making him profit at the expense of Nigerians. The Nigerian government made Dangote and helped him suffocate other competitors out of the marktet. Because of a road he hasnt yet fixed in Apapa, they are already lining up rewards for him in the form of a tax holiday. Have you bothered to ask what the welfare and remuneration for employees there is? It is shit when compared with companies around the world.

He is already bringing in the same people to manage the refinery. That's the sad part.
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by Bullhari007(m): 8:04am On Oct 09, 2017
ultron12345:
keep quiet, which monopoly, in Nigeria is there no bua, lafage, Unicem, ccnn and others, is he not making and selling cement in 17 other African countries (including South Africa, he just wanted to buy this firm to increase his market share), or are u saying the government of each of these 17 countries gave him monopoly as well.......don't go and work, be there spewing trash, envy and hatred.

If you think cement should be sold at N200 per bag, then build your cement plant and sell at that price, naturally, consumers will leave dangotes product and patronize yours
then let him allow ibeto to thrive... shut your mouth we all know how the man survive
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by Deeldorado: 8:13am On Oct 09, 2017
nony43:
They simply can't match the standards there
The cost of doing business in SA is also high particularly for wages and salaries. Plus, a lot of buildings in SA are also constructed with bricks not made from Cement. He has to invest a lot of money to set that company on the path of profitability. I think they didn't do enough initial market research before announcing their interest. I would prefer he focuses on his refinery and petrochemical plant and deliver that one first.

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by seniwellsFX: 8:16am On Oct 09, 2017
I feel pity for those traders and investors that may have heavily bought the shears of ppc cement SA hoping that the dangote deal will go through so they may end up making huge return on equity invested. Now that the deal is of the table the shear price of ppc will be down some nice percentage points. Traders and investors will be in serious pain by now. Lolzzzz.. that's the beauty of the financial markets..
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by Obiwiz(m): 8:16am On Oct 09, 2017
cescky:
sad

No room for naija style manipulation of stocks and monopoly tongue
dem no go give am free run at most things there. No gov't assisted monopoly or advantage over competitors. He's afraid of the competition. See why I think he's a state-made billionaire? Anyway, success na success. whether by luck or hard work.

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by ultron12345: 8:16am On Oct 09, 2017
Bullhari007:
then let him allow ibeto to thrive... shut your mouth we all know how the man survive
is it his fault that Ibeto doesn't have a plant, while dangote was taking risks, building cement plants, Ibeto was importing, and now the market doesn't need imports so no more Ibeto till he builds his cement plant

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by Awoo88: 8:18am On Oct 09, 2017
He will not have unfettered access to the power to make laws or grant it monopoly.
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by valentineuwakwe(m): 8:21am On Oct 09, 2017
ah ha. .Dangote knows the pains and worth of being a real business man. he has seen he may not reap back his investments .precautions must be applied in all spheres of life. .even bible talk say a wise sees danger and hide from it. .
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by aku626(m): 8:23am On Oct 09, 2017
Don’t need to read it YES YES YES
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by TeamSimple(m): 8:27am On Oct 09, 2017
Some people will be making comments as if Dangote falls today it will their parents richer than him. Even idiats that can't turn 500 to 550 in a year will still come here to scream monopoly and all.. Silly children of Penury.

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by hanassholesolo: 8:33am On Oct 09, 2017
Bullhari007:
Good one jecob Zuma for not giving him soft landing, Good one RSA for rejecting this scammer.. no Paddy paddy business in south... cement suppose to be the cheapest building material in Nigeria... how do he intends to survive when cement is sold for 10Rand less than 1500 naira.. this dangote is enjoying government monopoly at expense of suffering masses... imaging one mountain Ediot saying we should patronize dangote so he will retain the title of richest black man, cowardly , bill gate, Ortega ,zuckerberg etc does not build their empire with peoples sweat... remove monopoly dangote is nothing,

But most of the people you mentioned made monopoly money and they made money off "people's sweat"
In fact, Bill Gates Microsoft still has monopoly over desktops and PC, and before you mention Linux, (who the f#ck uses Linux except experts)
Zuckerberg also made monopoly money during the dotcom bubble. and i don't know what you mean by people's sweat but no one was forced to buy their product.

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by nwaUrasi(m): 8:34am On Oct 09, 2017
Phenotech:
Why?

Fear of xenophobic attacks.
You can't help but cancel such deal, wanna get caught in cross fire and risk millions of naira worth of investments?
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by mexite: 8:44am On Oct 09, 2017
There is no where 50kg bag if cement is sold for anywhere around R10 as you posited, we are not talking about cement bricks here. And even R10 is not equal to #1500 l, check the conversion right before exposing yourself.

Whether you like Dangote or not, he's an astute and a very successful business man. There is no business empire anywhere in the world, especially multinational companies, that does not have friends in the government. Stop hating on him and peddling lies.

You don't say what you don't know or misinform people. For your information, Dangote is already present in South Africa with a 64% share holding in Sephaku cement. So which soft landing are you taking about. Dangote is an aggressive investor and broad minded. He has his vision and he's very passionate about it. He's taking his business to all the corners of the world.


Bullhari007:
Good one jecob Zuma for not giving him soft landing, Good one RSA for rejecting this scammer.. no Paddy paddy business in south... cement suppose to be the cheapest building material in Nigeria... how do he intends to survive when cement is sold for 10Rand less than 1500 naira.. this dangote is enjoying government monopoly at expense of suffering masses... imaging one mountain Ediot saying we should patronize dangote so he will retain the title of richest black man, cowardly , bill gate, Ortega ,zuckerberg etc does not build their empire with peoples sweat... remove monopoly dangote is nothing,

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by CaptPlanet(m): 8:50am On Oct 09, 2017
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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by justi4jesu(f): 8:55am On Oct 09, 2017
CaptPlanet:



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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by CaptPlanet(m): 9:12am On Oct 09, 2017
justi4jesu:



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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by Bullhari007(m): 9:56am On Oct 09, 2017
hanassholesolo:


But most of the people you mentioned made monopoly money and they made money off "people's sweat"
In fact, Bill Gates Microsoft still has monopoly over desktops and PC, and before you mention Linux, (who the f#ck uses Linux except experts)
Zuckerberg also made monopoly money during the dotcom bubble. and i don't know what you mean by people's sweat but no one was forced to buy their product.
do you even know the meaning of monopoly
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by Bullhari007(m): 9:59am On Oct 09, 2017
ultron12345:
is it his fault that Ibeto doesn't have a plant, while dangote was taking risks, building cement plants, Ibeto was importing, and now the market doesn't need imports so no more Ibeto till he builds his cement plant
please tell me another story
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by Desyner: 10:01am On Oct 09, 2017
nony43:
They simply can't match the standards there
May be the man has sensed that the ROI there is small compared to refinery.

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:06am On Oct 09, 2017
Obiwiz:

dem no go give am free run at most things there. No gov't assisted monopoly or advantage over competitors. He's afraid of the competition. See why I think he's a state-made billionaire? Anyway, success na success. whether by luck or hard work.


Dangote cement is currently the market leader in Africa, Lafarge is in a distant second.

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:08am On Oct 09, 2017
mexite:
There is no where 50kg bag if cement is sold for anywhere around R10 as you posited, we are not talking about cement bricks here. And even R10 is not equal to #1500 l, check the conversion right before exposing yourself.

Whether you like Dangote or not, he's an astute and a very successful business man. There is no business empire anywhere in the world, especially multinational companies, that does not have friends in the government. Stop hating on him and peddling lies.

You don't say what you don't know or misinform people. For your information, Dangote is already present in South Africa with a 64% share holding in Sephaku cement. So which soft landing are you taking about. Dangote is an aggressive investor and broad minded. He has his vision and he's very passionate about it. He's taking his business to all the corners of the world.




You are correct, Dangote cement is huge and currently doing Business in about 20 African countries. As a matter of fact some countries in East Africa are begging him to invest in their countries.

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by ultron12345: 10:12am On Oct 09, 2017
Bullhari007:
please tell me another story
be there deceiving yourself
Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:14am On Oct 09, 2017
joebeckz:
not true, in numbers, yes because the northerners do the menial jobs. His truck drivers are illiterate hausas, his marketers are mostly southerners with good grades and good marketing skills and a few northerners for the northern states. His sales directors are all southerners with exception of North East director who is a northerner. U know why already, the volatile nature of the North East. I'm not from the north but I worked there and I have been to almost all the regions. The Dangote family are part of the business for some reasons, which is not to give him headache. Dangotes biggest distributor DC okika is igbo, his top 6 are from the south, he doesn't joke with them. Giwa dynamics use to top but has far dropped. Do not speak of what you barely know nothing about. Have a lovely day

CC Okika the biggest distributor of Dangote cement in 2016, won Dangote's cash prize of N190 million. Okika is an Igbo man

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:17am On Oct 09, 2017
Bullhari007:
then let him allow ibeto to thrive... shut your mouth we all know how the man survive

Nobody is preventing ibeto from thriving. A successful trader is different from a successful manufacturer.

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Re: Dangote Dumps South African Cement Firm Deal by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:33am On Oct 09, 2017
nnokwa042:
ur liying dangote staffs re 85 percent northerners,back to the matter dangote think say south africa na nigeria where goverment will ban cements of dangote competitors like obasanjo banned ibeto cement

Ibeto was banned after the period of grace given to cement traders to establish cement manufacturing plants.

Prior to the coming of Obj 90% of cements were imported. Obasanjo gave a period of grace to Lafarge, Dangote, Folawiyo, Flour Mills, Ibeto to increase their manufacturing capacities.
Full time cement traders like Dangote, Folawiyo, Ibeto , BUA were asked to move from trading to manufacturing.


Manufacturers like Lafarge, Flour Mills ie Unicem.Ashaka, Benue cement, Northern Nigeria Cement were told to increase their manufacturing capacities.

Among the full time cement and it only Dangote and BUA that truly moved into Cement manufacturing.

Where are the quarries and plants of Ibeto?

Trading creates few jobs and also kills industries, that is why we have to give to Dangote who is the biggest cement manufacturer in Africa.
Dangote cement currently employs almost 18000 workers in Africa.

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