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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:58pm On Oct 22, 2017
komekn:
Uduokhai scores in last minute with a header for Wolfsburg to salvage a point.
Irofa was on d bench today,any news on him about switch to Nigeria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:02pm On Oct 22, 2017
forgiveness:
Felix-uduokhai rescued a point with a glancing header into the corner of the net. grin

Did you watch the game.

How did you find the intensity and speed of the game
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by superbloke(m): 7:20pm On Oct 22, 2017
Joebie:
He will have a hard time at the bigger stage.. As his philosophy can only work with youth teams or teams with younger players. Not taking anything away from him.

Only reason you feel that way is probably because he's not a big name coach yet. Someone who's an established and proven coach will get away with worse.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:21pm On Oct 22, 2017
komekn:


Did you watch the game.

How did you find the intensity and speed of the game

Average. I agree, these two teams will struggle in the Championship. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:23pm On Oct 22, 2017
Iwobi is going to have problems getting back into Arsenal 11 with Jack Wilshere back from injury. He has Welbeck, Alexis, Ozil, Wilshere to compete with for a place in the front 3.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:26pm On Oct 22, 2017
edi287:
Iwobi is going to have problems getting back into Arsenal 11 with Jack Wilshere back from injury. He has Welbeck, Alexis, Ozil, Wilshere to compete with for a place in the front 3.

It will only make him better.

Competitive spirit will spurn him on to improve and not be complacent.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 7:26pm On Oct 22, 2017
edi287:
Iwobi is going to have problems getting back into Arsenal 11 with Jack Wilshere back from injury. He has Welbeck, Alexis, Ozil, Wilshere to compete with for a place in the front 3.
for which Arsenal team? your opinion though

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:28pm On Oct 22, 2017
Napoleon55:
for which Arsenal team? your opinion though
You think he can break into the first 11??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:36pm On Oct 22, 2017
Kog45:
Ekong has form a great partnership with Balogun and it w take a great form from any CB to displace him,Awaziem is showing a good form and if he can replicate it in eagles, it w be a straight fight between him and Ekong in starting XI.

Elderson still a player to reckon with base on experience but when it comes to football display he is losing it.The LB position is open for grabbed but we need to see what Aina and others have to offer,until then d position still belong to Echiejele.

Simeon Moses,honestly i don't rate him coz i always see him as average player but hardworking.Iwobi displayed against Zambia showed that Simeon w definitely find it hard to start ahead of him.

Also Oyekwuru is a talented player waiting on d wing,his performance against PSG proved that he has something to offer,not forgetting experience Ahmed Musa but his club situation has worsening things for him,hope he get another club and rediscover himself.

Definitely Iwobi sure starter now left for Simeon Moses, Ahmed Musa,Oyekwuru to show who is better.

Against Zambia, the coach had a game plan to keep things tidy in the first half and wear out the Zambians before he changed the tactics in the second half by attacking from the flanks with Iwobi.

Iwobi was not doing what Simon Moses was doing because Iwobi drifted into the midfield when Shehu attacked from the flanks while Simon attacked and defended at the same time without any support from the wing backs. .

You can see that that was the first time Shehu bursted across the half line to setup a cross.

It was the game plan and not necessarily abracadabra of Iwobi.

About Simon Moses being an average player, I will answer in due time. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:40pm On Oct 22, 2017
Mickael2:



Please tell theGoodJoe that it is bone fusion, the plates are already there and will continue growing until the plates fuse which is usually between the ages of 15-19 which means a younger person can fail it and an older person can pass it still

I think you should tell yourself that. You were the one who said bone growth. Now you are telling them to tell me. Is Bone fusion and bone growth the same thing?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:43pm On Oct 22, 2017
tbaba1234:


In most teams, everyone is required to defend unless you are a Ronaldo or Messi. That creates balance. Defending from the front.

I think you missed my term. I clearly stated, "where the attackers concentrate more on attacking." I did not say that the attackers should not defend or help defend. However, their defending should be limited.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:46pm On Oct 22, 2017
tbaba1234:


As a Dm alongside Onazi or Ndidi.. Just something that could be experimented in a friendly. Instead of bringing in Mikel Agu, Shehu might do better. DM is his natural role after all.

In fact there are even too many natural DMs in that team. Onazi, Ndidi, Agu, Shehu. Agu was drafted in when Shehu was deployed to the defense.

I personally rate Shehu ahead of Agu in that position. Shehu, just as how he is disciplined as a RB is a very disciplined DM. Ie playing to instructions. If Aina takes the RB position the DM to drop for Shehu should be Agu.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:48pm On Oct 22, 2017
Mickael2:



Please tell theGoodJoe that it is bone fusion, the plates are already there and will continue growing until the plates fuse which is usually between the ages of 15-19 which means a younger person can fail it and an older person can pass it still

Are you reading what I am saying or you are just typing? Did I not clearly state that the plates disappear at 17 years. So what do you mean the plates are already there?

As a baby, the bone is hard. As the baby gets older, there is formation at the edge of the hard bone, which leaves holes in it. As the baby gets older the formation is outer why the plate is inside. The formation continues like that with the plate getting thinner and thinner until it disappears at 17.

That is why FIFA wants those who still have he plates playing at the U17 World Cup. So what do you mean that the plate is there?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:04pm On Oct 22, 2017
komekn:


It is a science that's is based on given parameters it's not an exact science it can not tell how exactly old you are.

Your bone scans are matched against given parameters from which informed deductions are made.

Is it possible to beat? Yes 100% because it's indicative and not absolute. Furthermore, physiological make up, environmental factors, nutrition and racial identify all impact on the final deductions.

Please, explain this beating you are saying. Are you saying that if the scan will reveal that the plates have fused, that if they scan it, the plates will not show fusing?

That is not true.

You can not beat the test if you are above the margin of error of the test. Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 8:04pm On Oct 22, 2017
safarigirl:
you have come again

Based on general feedback, it's obvious you were the one who watched the wrong game
This girl ehn gringrin

Kaiiiii

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:06pm On Oct 22, 2017
komekn:


That is the only reason it was highlighted.

Did you know his mother had to pay for the scan in excess of 100k naira they then to date refused to give her a copy of the scan.

We are Nigerians we can understand there is much more to this than meets the eye.

Maduabuchi's mum can conduct another scan in America at that time. She would still see that he would not meet it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:14pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Are you reading what I am saying or you are just typing? Did I not clearly state that the plates disappear at 17 years. So what do you mean the plates are already there?

As a baby, the bone is hard. As the baby gets older, there is formation at the edge of the hard bone, which leaves holes in it. As the baby gets older the formation is outer why the plate is inside. The formation continues like that with the plate getting thinner and thinner until it disappears at 17.

That is why FIFA wants those who still have he plates playing at the U17 World Cup. So what do you mean that the plate is there?


Wrist bone development certainly
does change during adolescence.
Before puberty the human body
cranks out cells that help produce
new cartilage along the ends of
bones. These areas of the bone,
known as growth plates, are
eventually converted into bone
material, which helps the bones
lengthen. Yet as teenagers, both
males and females start producing
more estrogen, which slows that
cellular production process—and
their growth plate cartilage
subsequently gets thinner and
thinner until some of the bones in
that area fuse together, and the
growth plates close and are replaced
by solid bone. (That’s why wrist scans
are sometimes used alongside those
of the fingers, in tandem with other
biological information, to estimate a
growing child’s eventual height.) The
exact timing of this fusion, however,
varies a lot between individuals.


I do not know why you like arguing, just learn for once.

The plates are already there from birth, just that they are not made up of 'bone materials' at then, so you can be forgiven if you say the plates are not there. But contrary to what you are saying, the plates actually APPEAR at 17, they are now made up of 'bone' materials and fuse together to form one solid bone plate and once the solid bone is formed growth ceases(because it is the long bones that grow). Take the correction and let us move on, the idea of the MRI is centered on the fusion of those small growth plates to form the solid plate, not the absence of growth plates
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:20pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I think you should tell yourself that. You were the one who said bone growth. Now you are telling them to tell me. Is Bone fusion and bone growth the same thing?


Once the plates join together, growth ceases. Gerrit?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:20pm On Oct 22, 2017
Kog45:
Irofa was on d bench today,any news on him about switch to Nigeria.

I do not think an official approach has been made. Or when he starts playing for an EPL teams we will then rush in

I intend to see him at the weekend.

I was comparing Uduokhai and Akpoguma to him and in my opinion he is better. It's possible the slow pace and lack of intensity of the Bundesliga doesn't allow you to really see defenders tested to the extreme.

As a result I may not haven't seen them at thier best.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:20pm On Oct 22, 2017
No be only championship. Dem go struggle for Scotland second tier sef. Hibernian go beat them better beat grin
komekn:
My view just going on the performance of Hoffenheim and Wolfsburg both of these teams would struggle in the Championship definitely not on the EPL level.

Some may call it biased sentimental favouritism for all things English.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:24pm On Oct 22, 2017
Balogun was in Bundesliga 2 when we first started showing him interest. They come like that and we like it. Akpoguma welcome back. Our radar now set on you.

komekn:


I do not think an official approach has been made. Or when he starts playing for an EPL teams we will then rush in

I intend to see him at the weekend.

I was comparing Uduokhai and Akpoguma to him and in my opinion he is better. It's possible the slow pace and lack of intensity of the Bundesliga doesn't allow you to really see defenders tested to the extreme.

As a result I may not haven't seen them at thier best.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:25pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Maduabuchi's mum can conduct another scan in America at that time. She would still see that he would not meet it.

Why should she? When the NFF refused to give her the test results that she had to pay for at thier instruction. And this at a time when there was just sample testing of the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:25pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I agree with us having little room for experiments in the Algeria game. The game would have been a good opportunity to test players with potentials of breaking into the Super Eagles but with the Argentine game on the horizon, we need to begin our World Cup preparation with the Algerian game, some how look at it more like a Grade A friendly. We field our strongest line-up in preparation for the Argentine game.

I feel this is our most balanced and strongest line-up.



I pick Ndidi over Onazi because I do not think Onazi can displace Ndidi in a club like Leicester City. Mikel Obi playing a deeper role will give us more defensive balance and also give him more time on the ball to dictate play.

Iwobi in AMF will orchestrate the play of the attackers with his incisive passes and with his new dimension in his work rate can help support the defence when we are under pressure.

The success of this set-up against Algeria will determine us using it against the Argentines.

Can you compare the Lazio of Onazi days with Leicester of Ndidi days?

Can Ndidi play for Lazio of his days even of these this days? shocked grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:26pm On Oct 22, 2017
Mickael2:



Wrist bone development certainly
does change during adolescence.
Before puberty the human body
cranks out cells that help produce
new cartilage along the ends of
bones. These areas of the bone,
known as growth plates, are
eventually converted into bone
material, which helps the bones
lengthen.

Yet as teenagers, both
males and females start producing
more estrogen, which slows that
cellular production process—and
their growth plate cartilage
subsequently gets thinner and
thinner until some of the bones in
that area fuse together, and the
growth plates close and are replaced
by solid bone.



(That’s why wrist scans
are sometimes used alongside those
of the fingers, in tandem with other
biological information, to estimate a
growing child’s eventual height.) The
exact timing of this fusion, however,
varies a lot between individuals.


I do not know why you like arguing, just learn for once.

The plates are already there from birth, just that they are not made up of 'bone materials' at then, so you can be forgiven if you say the plates are not there. But contrary to what you are saying, the plates actually APPEAR at 17, they are now made up of 'bone' materials and fuse together to form one solid bone plate and once the solid bone is formed growth ceases(because it is the long bones that grow). Take the correction and let us move on, the idea of the MRI is centered on the fusion of those small growth plates to form the solid plate, not the absence of growth plates

Read the bolded. That is what the scan is about. The one getting thinner and thinner until it is replaced by bones. When the scan is done, they are looking for the one getting thinner and thier. Not the one formed after.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:27pm On Oct 22, 2017
forgiveness:


Can you compare the Lazio of Onazi days with Leicester of Ndidi days?

Can Ndidi play for in the Lazio of his days even this days? shocked grin

Please we are talking of Onazi today and not Leicester days.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:28pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Read the bolded. That is what the scan is about. The one getting thinner and thinner until it is replaced by bones. When the scan is done, they are looking for the one getting thinner and thier. Not the one formed after.


haba. What they are checking is for the degree of fusion, not something that is disappearing, Haba Oga, learn now
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:29pm On Oct 22, 2017
Mickael2:



haba. What they are checking is for the degree of fusion, not something that is disappearing, Haba Oga, learn now
Read the bolded.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:30pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Read the bolded.


it is an explanation of how the fusion starts and why it starts. It is in simple English na haba
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:33pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Please we are talking of Onazi today and not Leicester days.

Good that you agreed else.... grin

Even Leicester is a relegation candidate team. Nothing special for now. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:33pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Read the bolded.


In FIFA’s citing of the foundational
MRI study for boys, however, its major
mistake lies in applying these
population-level statistics to individual
athletes. A closer examination of the
full data shows that the actual wrist
bone growth stages can occur at a
wide range of ages. Among 16-year-
olds, for example, roughly the same
number of kids were at stages 1, 3, 4
and 5, representing a spectrum of
growth at that age. “There is so much
overlap that you may have a person
who is 18 who could have only
minimal fusion to complete fusion,
and there are people who are already
fused going from ages 20 to 16,” says
Vicente Gilsanz, a professor of
radiology and pediatrics at the
University of Southern California.
Although only one player in the 16-
year age group was graded as
completely fused (stage 6), the
standard deviation in that grouping is
also pretty telling.
The stages are even called fusion stages for obvious reasons, to show they are monitoring the fusion level not some disappearing plate
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:34pm On Oct 22, 2017
Mickael2:



it is an explanation of how the fusion starts and why it starts. It is in simple English na haba

their growth plate cartilage subsequently gets thinner and thinner until some of the bones in that area fuse together, and the growth plates close and are replaced by solid bone.

The growth plates close and are replaced by solid bone. The scan is for the fusion of the bones and non-existence of the growth plate cartilage which is replaced by solid bone. This occurs at 17 years. This is what the scan is about.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:37pm On Oct 22, 2017
Joebie:
No be only championship. Dem go struggle for Scotland second tier sef. Hibernian go beat them better beat grin

You are being sarcastic be objective.

The observation is that Wolfsburg and Hoffenheim would struggle with the pace, physicality and intensity of the Championship.

Your reference to the Scottish premier League leaves me baffled what's the relevance.

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