Good news.

Let the veil of organized religion keep on falling off the eyes of the minions.

So that more and more people will come to see organized religion for what it really is: MIND CONTROL and TOTAL FALLACY.

He has seen the light. Ye shall know the truth and only the truth shall set you free. Church no dey lead anybody to heaven. Na only your PR with God fit count for you on that day.

Ubenedictus:
you are aware that even irenaeus you mentioned is a Catholic as are other people who had a hand in compiling the new testament . so the Catholic Church existed before Constantine

Cos he was called "bishop" that now meant he was catholic? hope we both know the title is pre constantine and simply means 'a preaching elder'?? I'l modify soon..


Modified


He was a direct convert of Apostle John and had access to the early parts of the NT through Polycarp. The Apostles had OT copies(jew families and clans were known to always have copies), and used the Gospels and lateron got letters of Paul thru Timothy, Luke (OT till book of Hebrews) and cos he had direct acess, he won most arguments against liars of his days. the rcc now Came to claim him as theirs when the doctrines he believed was alien to theirs?! what a confusion!! Even the catholic church's origin has been shifted 3ice to make up for lost puzzle pieces.(but thats not my aim) my aim is the jews gave us!

is a free world, just remain a Christian

Penalty82:


Hope you know that more than 80% of Catholic doctrines are not biblical?.

because ur pastor have brainwash u to believe so. Get undastanding broda.

SpecialAdviser:

Taking the vow of celibacy is a choosing. Nobody is forced to do that. There are thousands of priests who are comfortable with it. The education journey to priesthood takes up to 7 years. So u have a whole 7 years to change ur mind. Shalom

9 years

Penalty82:


Do you think he should be forced to stay put?

no
nothing is by force

the fact that he wanted to leave shows he shouldn't have joined in the first place.

some people are actually pressurized into becoming priests by their families when they can't handle it.

priesthood isn't compulsory

Gggg102:


they don't force you to become priest

Then, they should not stop them from leaving. Even Jesus did not force his apostles to remain with him. In fact after 3 yrs, when all Jesus disciples left remaining only the 12 Apostles, he asked them if they also want to leave.

It is not a cult. If you said if they know they will leave they shouldn't have joined priesthood , then, you are turning it to cult & making the oath of priesthood a secret society oath which it is not.

talk2percy:
guy, a boy of Twelve to thirteen years knows nothing about celibacy, and that is exactly the time one enters the seminary. And all through his stay in the seminary, they are formed to live fake and pretentious life till either one decides to live a real life by bowing out or going into the priesthood just not to disappoint his family or the community or the society(societal pressure) and live the rest of his life pretending or in regrets most often, that is why apparently 99.9 percent of catholic priests are not virgins. So this guy apparently wants to live a free and normal life devoid of self deceit. There's no such thing as living a celibate life amongst priests and they know that...

people whose ordination I've witnessed are about 30 yrs of age
the total yrs of formation is 9-10
so they enter the seminary in their twenties or at the last stage of teenage yrs (around 17 or 18)
it 12 & 13 yrs olds were admitted into seminaries we should be having priests in their early twenties

DavidEsq:
U see how he suddenly became silent?

lol
I went offline didn't even know I was quoted

talk2percy:
guy, a boy of Twelve to thirteen years knows nothing about celibacy, and that is exactly the time one enters the seminary. And all through his stay in the seminary, they are formed to live fake and pretentious life till either one decides to live a real life by bowing out or going into the priesthood just not to disappoint his family or the community or the society(societal pressure) and live the rest of his life pretending or in regrets most often, that is why apparently 99.9 percent of catholic priests are not virgins. So this guy apparently wants to live a free and normal life devoid of self deceit. There's no such thing as living a celibate life amongst priests and they know that...

My dear,the junior seminary training is six years and its just like any other boarding secondary school. Stop saying what you dont have knowledge of...
He probably entered the seminary at 19 or 20 and will spent 8-10 years in training. Thats enough for him to know what he is into.

Penalty82:


Hope you know that more than 80% of Catholic doctrines are not biblical?.

Really?
You calculated this 80% yourself?

bmos:


Carry what?

Marry not carry jare.

Penalty82:


Do you think he should be forced to stay put?

No one is forcing anyone to stay put na uncle, the Catholic Church is just too organized as such you can't just come in and out of priesthood without due process, that's not too hard to understand....who ever forces dlanything on anyone of that age in this age

N

talk2percy:
guy, a boy of Twelve to thirteen years knows nothing about celibacy, and that is exactly the time one enters the seminary. And all through his stay in the seminary, they are formed to live fake and pretentious life till either one decides to live a real life by bowing out or going into the priesthood just not to disappoint his family or the community or the society(societal pressure) and live the rest of his life pretending or in regrets most often, that is why apparently 99.9 percent of catholic priests are not virgins. So this guy apparently wants to live a free and normal life devoid of self deceit. There's no such thing as living a celibate life amongst priests and they know that...

You are a useless being for that unfounded claim. Nobody goes to the seminary at the age of 13. Why are you doing this? Why are you lying so blatantly? where did you see anybody going to the seminary at 13? What do you gain by lying against the Catholic Church? Is that the in thing among your Camp these days? What is your motive? Don't you think you are being an idiot to make that unfounded claim?

Penalty82:


Any organization that forbids marriage is demonic.

is that the lie that tell you in the camp of Satan you belong to? Read 1Cor 7, especially verses 1,7 and 8. Maybe those verses can cure You of your annoying stupidity

Penalty82:


Hope you know that more than 80% of Catholic doctrines are not biblical?.

Like?

Zeze06:
You are intelligent...

Are you an engineer?

Yes but what prompted the question?

F**k done hungry am.

Your very intelligent statement..

CuteMadridista:


Yes but what prompted the question?

Penalty82:


Don't you think that mandatory celibacy is wrong.

Make use of other windows like penticostals.

If he resigned so that he could marry and have legitimate sex,he's far better than Rev Fathers who commit fornication sleeping with parishoners here and there.At least,he's sincere to himself and to his God.The wishes and opinions of the world should not hold him captive against his will.

Penalty82:


Don't you think that mandatory celibacy is wrong.

my dear is not mandatory, before planning to be a priest, u should have it in mind that no woman ll come over as a wife or sex mate

adetayo234:
is that the lie that tell you in the camp of Satan you belong to? Read 1Cor 7, especially verses 1,7 and 8. Maybe those verses can cure You of your annoying stupidity

You didn't read to verse 12 to know that Paul was only talking on his own not as commanded by God.

daveP:
Cos he was called "bishop" that now meant he was catholic? hope we both know the title is pre constantine and simply means 'a preaching elder'?? I'l modify soon..


Modified


He was a direct convert of Apostle John and had access to the early parts of the NT through Polycarp. The Apostles had OT copies(jew families and clans were known to always have copies), and used the Gospels and lateron got letters of Paul thru Timothy, Luke (OT till book of Hebrews) and cos he had direct acess, he won most arguments against liars of his days. the rcc now Came to claim him as theirs when the doctrines he believed was alien to theirs?! what a confusion!! Even the catholic church's origin has been shifted 3ice to make up for lost puzzle pieces.(but thats not my aim) my aim is the jews gave us!

it seems you are very ignorant of irenaeus, yes he was a convert and a disciple of John

but irenaeus left several writing so we know what he believed and what the church in his time believed.

enjoy

For they were desirous that these men should be very
perfect and blameless in all things, whom also they
were leaving behind as their successors, delivering
up their own place of government to these men;
which men, if they discharged their functions
honestly, would be a great boon [to the Church ], but
if they should fall away, the direst calamity.
2. Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such
a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all
the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who,
in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing,
by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion,
assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I
say,] by [b] indicating that tradition derived from the
apostles , of the very great, the very ancient, and
universally known Church founded and organized at
Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and
Paul ; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to
men , which comes down to our time by means of
the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of
necessity that every Church should agree with this
Church , on account of its preeminent authority, that
is, the faithful everywhere, inasmuch as the tradition
has been preserved continuously by those [faithful
men] who exist everywhere.
3. The blessed apostles , then, having founded and
built up the Church , committed into the hands of
Linus the office of the episcopate . Of this Linus,
Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To
him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third
place from the apostles , Clement was allotted the
bishopric . This man, as he had seen the blessed
apostles , and had been conversant with them, might
be said to have the preaching of the apostles still
echoing [in his ears], and their traditions before his
eyes. Nor was he alone [in this], for there were many
still remaining who had received instructions from
the apostles. In the time of this Clement, no small
dissension having occurred among the brethren at
Corinth , the Church in Rome dispatched a most
powerful letter to the Corinthians, exhorting them to
peace, renewing their faith, and declaring the
tradition which it had lately received from the
apostles , proclaiming the one God, omnipotent , the
Maker of heaven and earth, the Creator of man , who
brought on the deluge, and called Abraham , who led
the people from the land of Egypt , spoke with
Moses, set forth the law, sent the prophets, and
who has prepared fire for the devil and his angels .
From this document, whosoever chooses to do so,
may learn that He, the Father of our Lord Jesus
Christ , was preached by the Churches, and may also
understand the tradition of the Church , since this
Epistle is of older date than these men who are now
propagating falsehood , and who conjure into
existence another god beyond the Creator and the
Maker of all existing things. To this Clement there
succeeded Evaristus. Alexander followed Evaristus;
then, sixth from the apostles , Sixtus was appointed;
after him, Telephorus, who was gloriously martyred;
then Hyginus ; after him, Pius ; then after him,
Anicetus . Soter having succeeded Anicetus ,
Eleutherius does now, in the twelfth place from the
apostles , hold the inheritance of the episcopate . In
this order, and by this succession, the ecclesiastical
tradition from the apostles, and the preaching of the
truth , have come down to us. And this is most
abundant proof that there is one and the same
vivifying faith, which has been preserved in the
Church from the apostles until now, and handed
down in truth AH 3:2,3



that is ireneaus writing against heretical sects and he said every church must agree with the Roman church as she has preeminent authority. he named all the popes from peter to the one still living.

please tell me he isn't a Catholic.
[b]

daveP:
Cos he was called "bishop" that now meant he was catholic? hope we both know the title is pre constantine and simply means 'a preaching elder'?? I'l modify soon..


Modified


He was a direct convert of Apostle John and had access to the early parts of the NT through Polycarp. The Apostles had OT copies(jew families and clans were known to always have copies), and used the Gospels and lateron got letters of Paul thru Timothy, Luke (OT till book of Hebrews) and cos he had direct acess, he won most arguments against liars of his days. the rcc now Came to claim him as theirs when the doctrines he believed was alien to theirs?! what a confusion!! Even the catholic church's origin has been shifted 3ice to make up for lost puzzle pieces.(but thats not my aim) my aim is the jews gave us!

it seems you are very ignorant of irenaeus, yes he was a convert and a disciple of John

but irenaeus left several writing so we know what he believed and what the church in his time believed.

enjoy

For they were desirous that these men should be very
perfect and blameless in all things, whom also they
were leaving behind as their successors, delivering
up their own place of government to these men;
which men, if they discharged their functions
honestly, would be a great boon [to the Church ], but
if they should fall away, the direst calamity.
2. Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such
a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all
the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who,
in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing,
by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion,
assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I
say,] by [b] indicating that tradition derived from the
apostles , of the very great, the very ancient, and
universally known Church founded and organized at
Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and
Paul ; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to
men , which comes down to our time by means of
the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of
necessity that every Church should agree with this
Church , on account of its preeminent authority, that
is, the faithful everywhere, inasmuch as the tradition
has been preserved continuously by those [faithful
men] who exist everywhere.
3. The blessed apostles , then, having founded and
built up the Church , committed into the hands of
Linus the office of the episcopate . Of this Linus,
Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To
him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third
place from the apostles , Clement was allotted the
bishopric . This man, as he had seen the blessed
apostles , and had been conversant with them, might
be said to have the preaching of the apostles still
echoing [in his ears], and their traditions before his
eyes. Nor was he alone [in this], for there were many
still remaining who had received instructions from
the apostles. In the time of this Clement, no small
dissension having occurred among the brethren at
Corinth , the Church in Rome dispatched a most
powerful letter to the Corinthians, exhorting them to
peace, renewing their faith, and declaring the
tradition which it had lately received from the
apostles , proclaiming the one God, omnipotent , the
Maker of heaven and earth, the Creator of man , who
brought on the deluge, and called Abraham , who led
the people from the land of Egypt , spoke with
Moses, set forth the law, sent the prophets, and
who has prepared fire for the devil and his angels .
From this document, whosoever chooses to do so,
may learn that He, the Father of our Lord Jesus
Christ , was preached by the Churches, and may also
understand the tradition of the Church , since this
Epistle is of older date than these men who are now
propagating falsehood , and who conjure into
existence another god beyond the Creator and the
Maker of all existing things. To this Clement there
succeeded Evaristus. Alexander followed Evaristus;
then, sixth from the apostles , Sixtus was appointed;
after him, Telephorus, who was gloriously martyred;
then Hyginus ; after him, Pius ; then after him,
Anicetus . Soter having succeeded Anicetus ,
Eleutherius does now, in the twelfth place from the
apostles , hold the inheritance of the episcopate . In
this order, and by this succession, the ecclesiastical
tradition from the apostles, and the preaching of the
truth , have come down to us. And this is most
abundant proof that there is one and the same
vivifying faith, which has been preserved in the
Church from the apostles until now, and handed
down in truth AH 3:2,3



that is ireneaus writing against heretical sects and he said every church must agree with the Roman church as she has preeminent authority. he named all the popes from peter to the one still living.

please tell me he isn't a Catholic.
[/b]

daveP:
Cos he was called "bishop" that now meant he was catholic? hope we both know the title is pre constantine and simply means 'a preaching elder'?? I'l modify soon..


Modified


He was a direct convert of Apostle John and had access to the early parts of the NT through Polycarp. The Apostles had OT copies(jew families and clans were known to always have copies), and used the Gospels and lateron got letters of Paul thru Timothy, Luke (OT till book of Hebrews) and cos he had direct acess, he won most arguments against liars of his days. the rcc now Came to claim him as theirs when the doctrines he believed was alien to theirs?! what a confusion!! Even the catholic church's origin has been shifted 3ice to make up for lost puzzle pieces.(but thats not my aim) my aim is the jews gave us!

it seems you are very ignorant of irenaeus, yes he was a convert and a disciple of John

but irenaeus left several writing so we know what he believed and what the church in his time believed.

enjoy

For they were desirous that these men should be very
perfect and blameless in all things, whom also they
were leaving behind as their successors, delivering
up their own place of government to these men;
which men, if they discharged their functions
honestly, would be a great boon [to the Church ], but
if they should fall away, the direst calamity.
2. Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such
a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all
the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who,
in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing,
by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion,
assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I
say,] by [b] indicating that tradition derived from the
apostles , of the very great, the very ancient, and
universally known Church founded and organized at
Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and
Paul ; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to
men , which comes down to our time by means of
the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of
necessity that every Church should agree with this
Church , on account of its preeminent authority, that
is, the faithful everywhere, inasmuch as the tradition
has been preserved continuously by those [faithful
men] who exist everywhere.
3. The blessed apostles , then, having founded and
built up the Church , committed into the hands of
Linus the office of the episcopate . Of this Linus,
Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To
him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third
place from the apostles , Clement was allotted the
bishopric . This man, as he had seen the blessed
apostles , and had been conversant with them, might
be said to have the preaching of the apostles still
echoing [in his ears], and their traditions before his
eyes. Nor was he alone [in this], for there were many
still remaining who had received instructions from
the apostles. In the time of this Clement, no small
dissension having occurred among the brethren at
Corinth , the Church in Rome dispatched a most
powerful letter to the Corinthians, exhorting them to
peace, renewing their faith, and declaring the
tradition which it had lately received from the
apostles , proclaiming the one God, omnipotent , the
Maker of heaven and earth, the Creator of man , who
brought on the deluge, and called Abraham , who led
the people from the land of Egypt , spoke with
Moses, set forth the law, sent the prophets, and
who has prepared fire for the devil and his angels .
From this document, whosoever chooses to do so,
may learn that He, the Father of our Lord Jesus
Christ , was preached by the Churches, and may also
understand the tradition of the Church , since this
Epistle is of older date than these men who are now
propagating falsehood , and who conjure into
existence another god beyond the Creator and the
Maker of all existing things. To this Clement there
succeeded Evaristus. Alexander followed Evaristus;
then, sixth from the apostles , Sixtus was appointed;
after him, Telephorus, who was gloriously martyred;
then Hyginus ; after him, Pius ; then after him,
Anicetus . Soter having succeeded Anicetus ,
Eleutherius does now, in the twelfth place from the
apostles , hold the inheritance of the episcopate . In
this order, and by this succession, the ecclesiastical
tradition from the apostles, and the preaching of the
truth , have come down to us. And this is most
abundant proof that there is one and the same
vivifying faith, which has been preserved in the
Church from the apostles until now, and handed
down in truth AH 3:2,3



that is ireneaus writing against heretical sects and he said every church must agree with the Roman church as she has preeminent authority. he named all the popes from peter to the one still living.

please tell me he isn't a Catholic.

Penalty82:



http://sunnewsonline.com/catholic-priest-dumps-priesthood-one-year-after-abduction/amp/

It's a normal, if u can't cope with your wows u can leave, and be relieved of your wows

I wish him well in his future endeavours as his is best known by him and God alone. People should think of ways to better their economy these days as the government does not care about us. Check out business opportunities on https://buildpassiveincomes.com

Penalty82:


Don't you think that mandatory celibacy is wrong.

It is not a must to be a priest. It doesn't give you a guarantee to make heaven. That's the reason why holy matrimony (marriage) is a sacrament. If holy orders (the sacrament that confers priesthood) isn't your calling, why not get married? Don't you know that the church preaches that marriage is just as holy a vacation as the priesthood? See St Paul's teaching about the advantages of celibacy in 1 Corinthians. Our Lord Jesus Christ was also celibate (to the best of our knowledge). It is a question of choice & sacrifice & the fact is not everyone is capable of paying that price. Is one willing to sacrifice his desires for the good of kingdom? St Paul cooperated with the grace of God to put his body under & bring it into submission & look at the fruit of that. His work in the Lord's Vineyard was so powerful that he was named an apostle even though he wasn't a physical witness to the earthly ministry of our Lord. Look at His missionary journeys. Because of his sacrifice, the Gospel was better spread widely among the gentiles. The fact that we are all humans & sometimes juggling the ministry & family life is almost impossible sometimes. It can come to an ultimatum many a times to choose 1 to the detriment of the other. If you know you can't be celibate, marry & be a laity member. You can serve God that way. You mustn't be a priest to serve God. You can serve God in your family, workplaces & the wider society. That's why I love the teachings of St Jose Maria escriva the pioneer of opus Dei.

That bishop needs some lessons in human resource management. The priest should have been transferred immediately after his release. Lets not forget that besides being a priest, he is also human.

daveP:
Cos he was called "bishop" that now meant he was catholic? hope we both know the title is pre constantine and simply means 'a preaching elder'?? I'l modify soon..


Modified


He was a direct convert of Apostle John and had access to the early parts of the NT through Polycarp. The Apostles had OT copies(jew families and clans were known to always have copies), and used the Gospels and lateron got letters of Paul thru Timothy, Luke (OT till book of Hebrews) and cos he had direct acess, he won most arguments against liars of his days. the rcc now Came to claim him as theirs when the doctrines he believed was alien to theirs?! what a confusion!! Even the catholic church's origin has been shifted 3ice to make up for lost puzzle pieces.(but thats not my aim) my aim is the jews gave us!

So if RCCG moves their headquarters from ebute metta elsewhere, they have stopped being RCCG. Does that invalidate the late pa akindayomi as their founder? Constantine might have playing a role in institutionalising the church but that doesn't mean it didn't exist before him. There was a church before the Nicene council. The council didn't found a new church. It was just a forum to streamline doctrines & do away with teachings that were not compatible.

Yes I agree with you but you should note that over 90% of catholic priests made the decision as teenagers which was influenced by their parents. I attended seminary school, I wanted to be a catholic priest but my father said no. Will I still want to be a priest today? the answer is no. I have classmates that are priests, when we talk as childhood friends they will open up to you that it is not easy.

Gggg102:


they don't force you to become priest

SpecialAdviser:
Well, what more can I say? I wish him well on his decision. It doesn't in any way make him condemned.

One fact is that the gate of hell cannot prevail against the church Christ himself established
We Catholics should learn to love our priests. These guys are really trying and their vow of celibacy is just very difficult in this sex age. They are all human beings like us with body and blood. They suffer to fetch souls in a most difficult conditions.

PLEASE STOP CONDEMNING PRIESTS. STOP GOSSIPING ABOUT THEM AS WELL. PRAY FOR THEM DAILY.

How can we pray for d0lts?

Where did you people get that idea of celibacy to worship God from?
Nonsense