TheGoodJoe:
Biggest lesson is the talk of a player must play long with teammates before he deserves a nod. Ebuehi, Idowu and Uzoho played like they were regulars in the side.

There is need for blending but first, you need the best in every role before talking of blending. A good example was when Ebuehi overlapped but Mikel did not notice Ebuehi approaching and chose to cross the ball. Mikel later apologized to Ebuehi and with time, that mistake will not happen because Mikel Obi will have a better understanding of Ebuehi.

That is how it should be.

Quality before blending. Not playing a weaker player because he blended with the team. A better quality player without experience is better than a weak player with experience.

I think with time and as undeniable realities of time begin to manifest, people will begin to appreciate positions of different People's opinions here.

I have not forgotten your stance regarding the best player picked not minding his level of experience.

Lord Guardiola seems to be getting it right with his system, but no one seems to appreciate TheGoodJoe's belief in his system.

somehow:
Some people's hate for some players thick like charcoal.

so you think I hate musa?

Danielnino00:




I get your point, but there's no way Rohr will bench Moses... We aren't even sure or Rohr will adopt the 3 man defence permanently... For the sake of the team,I hope he doesn't because that will means making lots of changes to the team...

Let's stick with 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 .. Maybe when we play a stronger opposition, we can try the three man defence...


#MyOpinion

Na we been dey cry say Rohr dey 'conservative' oo.(I know you didn't sha)

Mujtahida:

And if the March window for Seychelles is given up for the World Cup bound teams to prepare as proposed by Pinnick then, our other window is the world cup and if he's not chosen then it's dicey. Your points on this issue are spot on. It was an oversight not to have capped him that night in Constantine.

can't we play afcon qualifiers and friendly match same week in Match...
at least play one on Friday the other on Tuesday....?

Icon4s:


That is why we need that AFCON qualifiers game against Seychelles. We start Ebuehi and Idowu and they are capped for life.

After that Seychelles game there is no other full international debut opportunity before the world cup.

Pinnick should go and withdraw that his proposal to CAF.

What competitive games does Russia and Holland have before the world cup to snatch those boys from us? ayam not understand o

forgiveness:


First of all, Sone Aluko dished England for Nigeria for the love he has for the country when he was already capped by England at all level up to Under 19. He was already up the ladder to play in the 3 Lions.

He could have made the 3 Lions team with his performance at Rangers if he was not capped by us.

Sone Aluko played in Rangers before he moved to the championship just for one year because he singlehandedly helped Hull city gained promotion to EPl. He played in the Epl for two seasons before his club was relegated. Dont forget he helped dem to the FA finals before his team lost.

Despite all these runs of splendid performances all those years, he was still snubbed big time. Why?

Therefore, it is not about playing in the Championship because even when at the top nobody looked his way.

Same goes to Victor Anichebe.

This Sone Aluko, Is he messi?
He has been playing in below par league all his life save for one or two seasons in EPL. If he is so good, he would be in mid table team.

Even if he chosed England, there's higher possibility that he would remain capless till today.

I don't know why people keep listing success on the list. He's not going to any world cup. It's high time some of us stopped throwing names up and down!

The current team have 85% of those going to the world cup already.

forgiveness:


Kayode is not in the same level with Onyekuru and Dressers. Success!? Will he be ready before then? Time will tell.

forgiveness:


Solanke is a more complete player than Iheanacho. You can take that to the bank.

I tried....the check bounced and I almost got arrested

Humility017:

sentiment aside...elderson is a no starter in the SE colors for now....Idowu and either of ebuehi or aina should be drafted to assist him there....
and deji should be called up to just train with the super eagles at least to prepare him for the future...Qatar 2022.

Are you sure Ebuehi can play at the left back position?

Napoleon55:
i think in order to accommodate both V.Moses and Ebuehi and utilized them effectively,i suggest Iwobi should be played in the midfield,and Ogu would b dropped, the 3 main midfielders will b made up of NDIDI,MIKEL and IWOBI,while IHEANACHO or whoever will play up front with V.MOSES,IDOWU and EBUEHI will fill the LWB and RWB respectively.
this is just my opinion .
it's imperative that we master as many as 4 major formations,because u never know the kind of opposition we will b facing at d WC.

In this system an healthy Onazi is non negotiable.

Action speaks bro. Except Musa doesn't play competitive football next year, he's surely going to be in Russia.

Has alot of things in his favor.
Plays well in the world cup and against big names[
Understand a bit of Russian language, understands the weather from his stay here.

He's a pivotal part of the SE and has something in him that makes coaches call him to the camp, dunno what it it, but his teammates like him around.

Lastly, his loyalty which all coaches look for is unquestionable.

I repeat, unless he stops playing competitive football next year, he's going to Russia.

Humility017:

so you think I hate musa?

Daejoyoung:

Are you sure Ebuehi can play at the left back position?

yeah...being that he uses both feet and he sometimes play that role for his club...then he can...
he should be tried and let's see how good he is....in that role

Napoleon55:
will agree ke,it's not matter of whether he will agree to play the role,he does not have a choice of where to play,and no one has,it is more of whether he will be able to collect the shirt back from Ebuehi.
if ur coach demand u should play even as keeper,u don't have any right to determine where u can play or not.

o pari

we can't force him to do anything bro that can mess up the team chemistry.

somehow:
Action speaks bro. Except Musa doesn't play competitive football next year, he's surely going to be in Russia.

Has alot of things in his favor.
Plays well in the world cup and against big names[
Understand a bit of Russia, understands the weather from his stay here.

He's a pivotal part of the SE and has something in him that makes coaches call him to the camp, dunno what it it, but his teammates like him around.

Lastly, his loyalty which all coaches look for is unquestionable.

I repeat, unless he stops playing competitive football next year, he's going to Russia.

you're right though ...
I think rohr should talk to him on the need to get a club come next January....even if it is a championship team.

I read..Aston villa are courting him...

MetalJigsaw:
Nope, not necessary because he was a central midfielder not attacker.

While he was at Frankfurt or PSG. If he wasn't much of a "Player" he would have had more goals.

Goke7:

Musa's experience can never be discounted, it was a psychological thing rohr did bringing in a musa who scored two goals against the same Argentina side back in 2014, his presence brought some decency and discipline, reason the game ended 4-2 as there was still chances for argentina to be back in the game before musa came on. I still insist that some players in the last world cup must be in this team to the world cup and musa is one of them. I laugh when I see calls for musa to be shown the way out.

A fit Musa will always bring good runs down the throat of opponents defenders especially when they begin to wear out.

Don't discard Musa yet.

Humility017:

so.....oga icon4 you've shifted goal post...
I thought you were among those...still hoping for the young lad to mature up ...supporting rohr keeping ebuehi on the bench.....

sometimes what I have noticed wit my experience elites here on nairaland and beyond is fear to take risks....

just that fear.......
forget all those words of rohr...he never expect ebuehi to play so well....had it been he knew this all this while...he would have played him before now....

For the crucial games against Cameroon and Zambia tell me why you should bench Shehu for Ebuehi after the former put up mind blowing performances. Shehu was a phenomenon even ahead of that Zambia game. No reasonable coach would have started Ebuehi ahead of Shehu. You don't just throw players into the starting 11 at random.

I personally expected Ebuehi to start against Algeria of which we nothing to lose but Rohr had other plans.

Rohr introduces players gradually into the team and I OK with that.

ykalhaji:
There is still a chance Russia can call Brian Idowu to come play for them, especially if we draw them in the group stages. So Ebeuhi and Brian Idowu are not guaranteed to play for us in the world cup yet. I guess the reason why Rohr said we should expect new faces. Not limiting himself, I like that typical German Oyinbo man thinking.

Rohr is looking to strengthen his team. Idowu and Ebuehi have made the decision to play for Nigeria and i believe they would for a long time. Netherlands were not interested in Ebuehi, Russia was not interested in Idowu.

Humility017:

a bottle of wine for this comment bro...

he so much rates the super eagles low that he laments here...for championship players to be called to the super eagles....

whereas he can't spill such empty words whenever he talk of 3lions......

what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander...

if those championship players are not good enough for the 3 lions then they're obviously not good enough for the super eagles......

True word. They stand far far better chances with us than with England. Let those who are wise among them take note but those who want the hype and the glamour of playing England should go. We can and will do just fine still.

but we are not progressing beyond quarter final in any of their permutations. In most of it, we are eliminated in first round. So it might just be their arrangement and not on how strong the team's are.

SerVik:

Haha.. See set up na, an English media outlet ranking SE as the 7th strongest team heading to the world Cup, ahead of England?

Can't be arsed though, this is all just a ploy to take away the underdog tag from us, everyteam will face us with the utmost level of seriousness now.

He should move back to Russia, there are top teams there he can play for. I for one don't like he EPL, kills creativity except you find yourself in man city or arsenal not to talk of the championship

Humility017:


you're right though ...
I think rohr should talk to him on the need to get a club come next January....even if it is a championship team.

I read..Aston villa are courting him...

Humility017:



i think he has alot of plegmaric character...

he is someone that is not radical and too proactive...

that statement he just made on ebuehi is something else....right now the dude should be cap tied immediately...let Idowu be left alone for the now....till the world cup then he will be cap tied....

You no go kee me with laughter.

ykalhaji:


Lol @ Solanke and Tammy are better than Iheanacho... IHEANACHO has two bad months and now all of a sudden some Tammy Abraham and Solanke are better than Nigeria's highest goal scorer this year. Abeg make una calm down. Let Tammy and Solanke come and play against any African team and if them score at 50% of the rate at which Iheancho scores, I will offer my family for Sacrifice. Iheanacho had a transfer, had an injury, came back from Injury, and now has a new coach, all that is enough to unsettle his settling down. Abeg make una calm down biko.

Take ya time so that you don't use family take do sacrifice oooo...because those boys go score pass 50%.

edi287:

Nacho has pace but struggles to beat a man. That's what's frustrating and probably why Pep sold him. If he had a bit of dribbling, no way would he leave city. His finishing is just too clinical

I wonder why he's not good at dribbling with all the monkey post he played near Ngwa market those days.

Humility017:

you mean solanke the England international?

is there another?

ykalhaji:
There is still a chance Russia can call Brian Idowu to come play for them, especially if we draw them in the group stages. So Ebeuhi and Brian Idowu are not guaranteed to play for us in the world cup yet. I guess the reason why Rohr said we should expect new faces. Not limiting himself, I like that typical German Oyinbo man thinking.

It would have been better not to 'taste' them than to have done so and lose them.

forgiveness:


First of all, Sone Aluko dished England for Nigeria for the love he has for the country when he was already capped by England at all level up to Under 19. He was already up the ladder to play in the 3 Lions.

He could have made the 3 Lions team with his performance at Rangers if he was not capped by us.

Sone Aluko played in Rangers before he moved to the championship just for one year because he singlehandedly helped Hull city gained promotion to EPl. He played in the Epl for two seasons before his club was relegated. Dont forget he helped dem to the FA finals before his team lost.

Despite all these runs of splendid performances all those years, he was still snubbed big time. Why?

Therefore, it is not about playing in the Championship because even when at the top nobody looked his way.

Same goes to Victor Anichebe.

I get your point on Aluko, but Anichebe(though very good) is not a very consistent player, l don't think he would do better than lghalo, Kayode, or Dessers(If called up). The fact is, we can't call everybody at this point, we must first look out for our weakest positions like the left back or Attacking midfield, going by this I'll agree with you that we can call up an Aluko or joel obi to see what they can offer.

forgiveness:


First of all, Sone Aluko dished England for Nigeria for the love he has for the country when he was already capped by England at all level up to Under 19. He was already up the ladder to play in the 3 Lions.

He could have made the 3 Lions team with his performance at Rangers if he was not capped by us.

Sone Aluko played in Rangers before he moved to the championship just for one year because he singlehandedly helped Hull city gained promotion to EPl. He played in the Epl for two seasons before his club was relegated. Dont forget he helped dem to the FA finals before his team lost.

Despite all these runs of splendid performances all those years, he was still snubbed big time. Why?

Therefore, it is not about playing in the Championship because even when at the top nobody looked his way.

Same goes to Victor Anichebe.

Aluko was never really in contention for an England call-up but it is not because of a lack of ability. How many English players play in scotland or the championship . He did not set the Premier League alight..

That said, Aluko will be a great addition to the current team.

Until the next international window,lemme amuse myself on this thread by seeing the continuous mention of names like Some Aluko,Ramon Azeez,Thiago Ilori,Obafemi Martins,etc that some people want us to take to the world cup
As if they don't know that Baba Rohr is taking a large chunk of the WCQ boys to Russia.



Thus thread might even hit 3000 pages before thus year ends due to the endless argument

komekn:


I actually feel we have not tested enough players we should be looking a lot more players than we have so far.

England will possibly go through upwards of 45 players before deciding on a final 23. How many players have we looked at some far do not seem to be enough.

Are there players who are possibly better in this regard Joel Obi, Sone Aluko, immediately come to mind as well as striking options in Obagoal who had better stats than Ighalo before getting injured.

Until tested we do not know. Give as many deserving players opportunities to be tested so we can get the best possible 23 we can find. No sentiment best players go.

In the end - if we follow your suggestion - we will take new players not a team to the World Cup. Do you know how incredibly hard it is to build something. When you see this boys laughing in camp, playing, fraternizing it looks simple abi?
No! Some persons worked hard to set the tone of unity and brotherhood. I like excellence but I know where to draw the line between idealism and reality.

tbaba1234:


Aluko was never really in contention for an England call-upty but it is not because of a lack of ability. How many English players from scotland or the championship play in the league. He did not set the Premier League alight..

That said, Aluko will be a great addition to the current team.

The way they are praising this Aluko ehn ..Somebody said he singlehandedly helped Hull city gain promotion to the EPL and was in contention to make the three lions team while at Rangers.. Lwkmd When was the last time a Scottish based or Championship player made the three lions squad? Tom Heaton might be the last to get a call up from the championship while he was with Burnley..

Aluko might indeed be the man to deputise for Mikel in the AMF role, like some people are saying, but biko,this hype too much

Danielnino00:
Until the next international window,lemme amuse myself on this thread by seeing the continuous mention of names like Some Aluko,Ramon Azeez,Thiago Ilori,Obafemi Martins,etc that some people want us to take to the world cup
As if they don't know that Baba Rohr is taking a large chunk of the WCQ boys to Russia.



Thus thread might even hit 3000 pages before thus year ends due to the endless argument

New players will break in.. Idowu looks like he would break in, Uzoho too.. Rohr also talked about a German CB who has agreed to play for us. Then we have Sarenren Bazee.

Most of the team will come from the WC qualifiers though..