tbaba1234:


New players will break in.. Idowu looks like he would break in, Uzoho too.. Rohr also talked about a German CB who has agreed to play for us. Then we have Sarenren Bazee.

Most of the team will come from the WC qualifiers though..

komekn:
Hi

Very informed and intelligent approach.

Joebie:
Just say Shehu and Aina played to instruction, at least we can start arguing from there.. When you say set up, it looks like you are talking about formation

Joebie:
You still havn't explained the process of enquiring.

Who is the not feeling Nigerian crew, at what moment do you realize they are not feeling Nigerian? When they fail to declare? Please explain the process of enquiring. I would so love to understand.

komekn:
Hi

Very informed and intelligent approach.

Joebie:
How is that a suggestion? A suggestion for the NFF to announce to the world that anyone who wants to play for Nigeria should just declare?
How do we achieve that since that is your suggestion?

Joebie:
Ehen coward better sef. When you can neither fix your internal problem nor can even make approaches for what is good for you because of fear of rejection. na coward bet that. @ mujtahida

Joebie:
Just say Shehu and Aina played to instruction, at least we can start arguing from there.. When you say set up, it looks like you are talking about formation

TheGoodJoe:


We do not have a scanner to find the not feeling Nigerian crew. So when I say enquire is like Mikel Obi asking Aina when he is willing to play for us or Rohr calling Idowu to enquire if he will play for us. If someone called Alaba, no beef.

If the player says he is not interested or if he is dragging his feet, no need for further contacts to convince. Let him know the door is open and when he is willing to play for us, he can let us know (declare).

No need going all out to convince a player who finds it strange playing for us. Or a player who has a burning desire to play for another country over us.

forgiveness:


First of all, Sone Aluko dished England for Nigeria for the love he has for the country even when he was already capped by England at all level up to Under 19. He was already up the ladder to play in the 3 Lions.

He could have made the 3 Lions team with his performance at Rangers if he was not capped by us.

Sone Aluko played in Rangers before he moved to the championship just for one year because he singlehandedly helped Hull city gained promotion to EPl. He played in the Epl for two seasons before his club was relegated. Dont forget he helped dem to the FA finals before his team lost.

Despite all these runs of splendid performances all those years, he was still snubbed big time. Why?

Therefore, it is not about playing in the Championship because even when at the top nobody looked his way.

Same goes to Victor Anichebe.

komekn:


I don't intend to cause offence, but I find that suggestive proposition nonsensical.

It shows indepth ignorance, parochial thinking and a refusal to empathise with the position and circumstances of other people not within your associative network.

I gave a first hand personal experience of how I suggested / invited a Nigerian origin player to go to camp in Abuja without formal invitation. He refused saying that's not the way things are done, that do I want him to be the subject of public ridicule

Cut a long story within two years he ended up playing for Nigeria.

English born and or cultured Nigerian origin players simply do not understand the culture dynamics norms and etiquette that surround our interactions. In most cases.

junnyjake:


That's no good. only 5 teams would be going to the WC out of the 54, so those who didn't qualify should wait for about a year before playing competitive football.

These qualifiers can also serve as a warm up game to the Mundial.

TheGoodJoe:


We do not have a scanner to find the not feeling Nigerian crew. So when I say enquire is like Mikel Obi asking Aina when he is willing to play for us or Rohr calling Idowu to enquire if he will play for us. If someone called Alaba, no beef.

If the player says he is not interested or if he is dragging his feet, no need for further contacts to convince. Let him know the door is open and when he is willing to play for us, he can let us know (declare).

No need going all out to convince a player who finds it strange playing for us. Or a player who has a burning desire to play for another country over us.

Joebie:
No Mikel told Aina he should play for Nigeria. And Aina asked if Nigeria has invited him. Does that not sound like "that's not how things are done"?
So you then go to Mikel and ask him, what did Aina say? Which kind toasting bet that.. e just be like those days when guys dey send pickin to go talk to girl.. lol

So Rohr calling Idowu is not "begging"? What if Idowu said no, won't you say that's a slap in the face? Won't it hurt the pride you were trying to protect?

Mujtahida:

It should be 25. It's even a more apt figure than 23

TheGoodJoe:


They played to instruction because Rohr set-up the team to play negative due to his personnel selection. You can not select Sergio Ramos to play as a defensive midfielder and expect him to play like Yaya Toure playing the same role. Even if you instruct him to play like Fernandinho, he can not. So using the term play to instruction is not precise.

komekn:


With respect you have no idea what you are talking about.

I really expected a a whole lot more depth to your appreciation of this issue. It's far from simplistic the way you put it.

This is something thankfully Amaju appreciates and understands. A guy who has grown mostly in Warri and the Delta but has far more understanding than some of you who are in cosmopolitan Lagos who should know so much better.

nelszx:


The new rule states every team will travel to the party with 25 players. 23 official players for the mundial and 2 on standby.
Read it somewhere and heard it again on Brilafm days back

Joebie:
oga long talk. You are saying he chose the wrong players for that formation, simple. Then that's not far from what that writer was saying. The writer said Aina and Shehu did not play well according to what the formation demands. It's pretty much the same.. just that you seem to be blaming the coach for his wrong choice. while the writer is blaming the players.
But hey, don't forget Aina bombed forward when he played against Zambia. Shehu also bombed forward in what led to Iwobi's goal. In Shehu's impressive games for SE, he was seen going forward, and combining very well. They were not just good enough against Argentina.

TheGoodJoe:


Mikel asked Aina are you ready to play for Nigeria. Finish.

Aina asking if Nigeria has invited him does not add up. We do not know if he is ready to play for us. Until we know before he can get an invitation.

That is not begging. That is Enquiring if Idowu is willing to play for us. No beef with that. The problem is if he says no r he is not sure and then we want to convince I'm to play for us. That is begging.

TheGoodJoe:


Let him be waiting for the way things are done. If he likes let him not write to the coach or officials of the NFF letting them know he is available for selection. Is it not here where there was a highlight of a player trying to reach coach Amunike by replying a comment with a letter. Is it not Senninger who came to Nigeria and declare his interest.

If a player is U20 and there is an open camp in Nigeria, if he can come to the camp, he should come.

Icon4s:


Nuff said and written posting on the NFF handle now.

tbaba1234:


New players will break in.. Idowu looks like he would break in, Uzoho too.. Rohr also talked about a German CB who has agreed to play for us. Then we have Sarenren Bazee.

Most of the team will come from the WC qualifiers though..

TheGoodJoe:


Your first line is totally off point. I said Rohr wanted to keep it tight at the back and chose players to help him achieved that. When we were down, he opted for players who can contribute more offensively.

The formation can not be only played one way. .

Icon4s:


Nuff said and written posting on the NFF handle now.

TheGoodJoe:


Mikel asked Aina are you ready to play for Nigeria. Finish.

Aina asking if Nigeria has invited him does not add up. We do not know if he is ready to play for us. Until we know before he can get an invitation.

That is not begging. That is Enquiring if Idowu is willing to play for us. No beef with that. The problem is if he says no r he is not sure and then we want to convince I'm to play for us. That is begging.

ykalhaji:


Chief, Russia was not looking for a black player to play for them. Ebuehi was stylishly asked not to play for Nigeria by Netherlands. They are in an automatic rebuilding mode, so Ebeuhi will not want to waste time with them, since they are not going to the world cup, but with Russia, if they draw Nigeria in the group stages, the coach might invite Brian Idowu to the world cup camp, if he is not officially capped by then. He might not select him eventually but it will frustrate Nigeria's defensive plan. Plus because Brian Idowu plays and lives in Russia as a black person, it will be hard for him to reject a call up from Russia. Remember Russia is not like liberal western European nations, things can get pretty ugly for him in his everyday life if when called by Russia he picks Nigeria.

Please note that these are just speculations on my part.

TheGoodJoe:


They played to instruction because Rohr set-up the team to play negative due to his personnel selection. You can not select Sergio Ramos to play as a defensive midfielder and expect him to play like Yaya Toure playing the same role. Even if you instruct him to play like Fernandinho, he can not. So using the term play to instruction is not precise.

komekn:



I don't know how true the assertion in bold is.

Nonetheless, that entire conversation is completely underpinned by one word RELATIONSHIP.

Mikel has been like a big brother to Aina watching him in the academy grow etc

Just the same way I see young Bobby Adekanya in Liverpool academy with the younger boys irrespective of age.

TheGoodJoe:


We do not have a scanner to find the not feeling Nigerian crew. So when I say enquire is like Mikel Obi asking Aina when he is willing to play for us or Rohr calling Idowu to enquire if he will play for us. If someone called Alaba, no beef.

If the player says he is not interested or if he is dragging his feet, no need for further contacts to convince. Let him know the door is open and when he is willing to play for us, he can let us know (declare).

No need going all out to convince a player who finds it strange playing for us. Or a player who has a burning desire to play for another country over us.

Mujtahida:

5 countries representing the continent. It's an African project now oooo. Go to BBC Africa football page and see how Zambians were happy at the way we defeated Argentina. Except SA our bad belle brothers.

My one concern though is that playing the qualifiers after the world cup would be too far into 2018 as the time between the resumption of the qualifiers and Afcon 2019 might be too short and European teams would not want to release their players and many of the players might not even want to come because the world cup with its ginger is behind them.
It would have been better to just leave it as it was as in Seychelles in March.