Few years from, some churches will operate as city states with all the paraphernalia and trappings of a sovereignty.

I know of some churches in Nigeria that function more effectively and in an organized manner than Nigeria. These Churches have all the wherewithal to run a country.

Some of these churches can pay loan money to distressed and bankrupt states like Kogi and Imo to pay their salaries if they can just eat their humble pie and make the move. Afterall, it is clearly stipulated in the Holy Book that "you shall lend to nations" .

[quote author=admax post=62722005][b]The Church is doing so much in this country yet people will open their mouth to say rubbish about Pastors.

Imagine how the country will look like if some of those Pastors lead every sector of this country.

Argue with

Some churches are trying while I commend the leadership quality of Adeloye but church administration can't be compare with a country governance as that of nations more challenging on tribalism, religion differences and others, all groups can perform excellently under atmosphere of good governance because if there's no state association can't exist.

Do they stay there for free, no rent?

If so, then nice

If not, then another business center.

Ntn to say

If this is what tithe and offering is producing, then I will tithe. At least it is better buying bombs for jihadist

some idjots would later ask you what the church needs tithe for! when i was in redemeers university when it was still st the camp, its was frigging 247 light!

Statsocial

nice one. they should do more

Papiikush:
At least they are doing something with the tithes and offerings

Nevertheless redeem church is filled with hypocritical and diabolic men in form of pastors especially those assistant general overseers.

They drive in their luxury cars and live in mansions meanwhile members of redeem (who are church rats) hang around, sleep and beg in the auditorium.

There are over three hundred buildings in the redemption camp and these people living and begging were deserted and at a point, they were haunted like animals and sent away from the auditorium.

Trust me, I know this because i stay in camp. If you know, you know...

guy if u are a christian shame on u u are among d reason oda religion laff at us u open ur garbage nd vomit any type of shit but u fail to understand dat wat eva d do it not for u to judge
i no ur type u d kinda person dat think u no it all but insyd u believe mi u are empty

InfinixMine:
Mehn! The churches are more organised then FGN everything is working.

Light there is 24/7

Papiikush:
At least they are doing something with the tithes and offerings

Nevertheless redeem church is filled with hypocritical and diabolic men in form of pastors especially those assistant general overseers.

They drive in their luxury cars and live in mansions meanwhile members of redeem (who are church rats) hang around, sleep and beg in the auditorium.

There are over three hundred buildings in the redemption camp and these people living and begging were deserted and at a point, they were haunted like animals and sent away from the auditorium.

Trust me, I know this because i stay in camp. If you know, you know...

True talk bro..

Macmoni:

guy if u are a christian shame on u u are among d reason oda religion laff at us u open ur garbage nd vomit any type of shit but u fail to understand dat wat eva d do it not for u to judge
i no ur type u d kinda person dat think u no it all but insyd u believe mi u are empty

You don't want the truth ...I stay there too ... I have prove

Papiikush:
At least they are doing something with the tithes and offerings

Nevertheless redeem church is filled with hypocritical and diabolic men in form of pastors especially those assistant general overseers.

They drive in their luxury cars and live in mansions meanwhile members of redeem (who are church rats) hang around, sleep and beg in the auditorium.

There are over three hundred buildings in the redemption camp and these people living and begging were deserted and at a point, they were haunted like animals and sent away from the auditorium.

Trust me, I know this because i stay in camp. If you know, you know...

Not everyone that says unto me Lord shall enter my kingdom. On the issue of people being haunted and chased out of auditorium,
security reports had that many criminal elements always come to hide after perpetrating evil outside.
Many were arrested. Genuine beggars and needy were cater for by Hope of Habitation and other welfare scheme sir.

InfinixMine:
Mehn! The churches are more organised then FGN everything is working.

Good use of church money abi

How many have you helped? since you live in the CAMP

Papiikush:
At least they are doing something with the tithes and offerings

Nevertheless redeem church is filled with hypocritical and diabolic men in form of pastors especially those assistant general overseers.

They drive in their luxury cars and live in mansions meanwhile members of redeem (who are church rats) hang around, sleep and beg in the auditorium.

There are over three hundred buildings in the redemption camp and these people living and begging were deserted and at a point, they were haunted like animals and sent away from the auditorium.

Trust me, I know this because i stay in camp. If you know, you know...

Papiikush:
At least they are doing something with the tithes and offerings

Nevertheless redeem church is filled with hypocritical and diabolic men in form of pastors especially those assistant general overseers.

They drive in their luxury cars and live in mansions meanwhile members of redeem (who are church rats) hang around, sleep and beg in the auditorium.

There are over three hundred buildings in the redemption camp and these people living and begging were deserted and at a point, they were haunted like animals and sent away from the auditorium.

Trust me, I know this because i stay in camp. If you know, you know...

So you live there. Tell me please. Can I move there? Are there flats for let? I'm not an RCCG person.

Papiikush:
At least they are doing something with the tithes and offerings

Nevertheless redeem church is filled with hypocritical and diabolic men in form of pastors especially those assistant general overseers.

They drive in their luxury cars and live in mansions meanwhile members of redeem (who are church rats) hang around, sleep and beg in the auditorium.

There are over three hundred buildings in the redemption camp and these people living and begging were deserted and at a point, they were haunted like animals and sent away from the auditorium.

Trust me, I know this because i stay in camp. If you know, you know...

you claim RCCG is filled with diabolical pastors (there are several thousands of pastors in RCCG. when did you carry out your research? what percentage of the tens of thousands of RCCG pastors are diabolical for you to reach such a conclusion and used the word filled which signifies majority?). what assurance do you have that these thousands of RCCG pastors arr living on the sweat of their church rats like you called the members when the pastors themselves only get stipends from the HQ and remit a certain percentage to the center? so a pastor must live in penury to satisfy the needs of everyone around him even when he's making his money from his own business?

then you went on to talk about how they evict beggars from the auditorium. were the auditoriums built for begging? if unwanted guests are not evicted do you know the number of criminals that place will keep attracting? do you know people's cars get vandalized and stolen even on camp ground? so the church should not put up measures to protect people against criminals that just want to loiter?

may God forgive you for this level of foolishness

PAPIIKUSH said NOTHING but the TRUTH!

Don't be deceived by what you're seeing online!

in the 5000houses you're seeing there means that it can only accommodates only like 20k people!


Do you know the amount to lease the houses out to people during convention or any Program? 10k per day! how many people can afford that? only the pastor's!

we others are left to Sleep in the auditorium on the Bench!

to struggle For water daily for Where to charge!.

don't let me mention The issue if bathing,Toileting and Eating on the redemption camp!!

that place is where I called the modern Day SLAVERY!!!!!!!!!!!

CAMP IS HELL!

Papiikush:
At least they are doing something with the tithes and offerings

Nevertheless redeem church is filled with hypocritical and diabolic men in form of pastors especially those assistant general overseers.

They drive in their luxury cars and live in mansions meanwhile members of redeem (who are church rats) hang around, sleep and beg in the auditorium.

There are over three hundred buildings in the redemption camp and these people living and begging were deserted and at a point, they were haunted like animals and sent away from the auditorium.

Trust me, I know this because i stay in camp. If you know, you know...

seconded i am alsoa camp dweller

Jaideyone:


you claim RCCG is filled with diabolical pastors (there are several thousands of pastors in RCCG. when did you carry out your research? what percentage of the tens of thousands of RCCG pastors are diabolical for you to reach such a conclusion and used the word filled which signifies majority?). what assurance do you have that these thousands of RCCG pastors arr living on the sweat of their church rats like you called the members when the pastors themselves only get stipends from the HQ and remit a certain percentage to the center? so a pastor must live in penury to satisfy the needs of everyone around him even when he's making his money from his own business?

then you went on to talk about how they evict beggars from the auditorium. were the auditoriums built for begging? if unwanted guests are not evicted do you know the number of criminals that place will keep attracting? do you know people's cars get vandalized and stolen even on camp ground? so the church should not put up measures to protect people against criminals that just want to loiter?

may God forgive you for this level of foolishness

if you don't understand something kindly ask

"Members are being treated like beggers on the camp ground!"

if you think this is a Lie..come to the redemption camp during the Holy Ghost congress and you will regret the experience forever!!

dontbothermuch:
Do they stay there for free, no rent?

If so, then nice

If not, then another business center.

its free for those workIn there and too get plot to build is free for members with evidenceof membership

dontbothermuch:
Do they stay there for free, no rent?

If so, then nice

If not, then another business center.

ennyhola:


if you don't understand something kindly ask

"Members are being treated like beggers on the camp ground!"

if you think this is a Lie..come to the redemption camp during the Holy Ghost congress and you will regret the experience forever!!

dontbothermuch:
Do they stay there for free, no rent?

If so, then nice

If not, then another business center.

leave the learner

ironically, the more they hate the church of Christ the more it waxes stronger

Macmoni:

guy if u are a christian shame on u u are among d reason oda religion laff at us u open ur garbage nd vomit any type of shit but u fail to understand dat wat eva d do it not for u to judge
i no ur type u d kinda person dat think u no it all but insyd u believe mi u are empty

this is no secretit was raised during the last ministers conference and mumy said she doesnot no about mostof these....Noone is Condemnin dad Go but the people around him

Papiikush:
At least they are doing something with the tithes and offerings

Nevertheless redeem church is filled with hypocritical and diabolic men in form of pastors especially those assistant general overseers.

They drive in their luxury cars and live in mansions meanwhile members of redeem (who are church rats) hang around, sleep and beg in the auditorium.

There are over three hundred buildings in the redemption camp and these people living and begging were deserted and at a point, they were haunted like animals and sent away from the auditorium.

Trust me, I know this because i stay in camp. If you know, you know...

So you stay there. Tell me please. Can I move there? Are there vacant flats for let? Note I'm not an RCCG member.

kn23h:
Yorubas are doing well

Ntooor to my brothers attending their churches, this is their typical mindset

erifeoluwasimi:
this is no secretit was raised during the last ministers conference and mumy said she doesnot no about mostof these....Noone is Condemnin dad Go but the people around him

since u no y cnt u pray it beta dan exposing dem

Kraspo:
"She Killed Him Because She Loved Him" For the sake of love He went back home that fateful night And in his sleep She stabbed him. With a precision akin to a gladiator Not once, not twice, She stabbed him multiple times until she was exhausted. And with every stab she made, A portion of her anger melted away, Until she was empty of her bitter jealousy And he was drained of life in a pool of his own blood Only then did she feel relieved Only then did she get even with him And then she took him in her own hands to the hospital. This is not a thief nor a stranger nor a random predator. This is not a pedophile or a rapist. This is not even a terrorist! This is a man in whose bosom you have felt the warmness of affections A man who had shared his deepest secret with you This is a man who left his first wife to be with you. You chased away his close friends Chased away his family And finally chased him from this world Talking about love going sore! What a affectionate tragedy! You killed him because beneath that beautiful face That smiles with subtle tenderness. And radiates with compassion and innocence Is a vicious murderer!!

Marriage sucks

InfinixMine:
Mehn! The churches are more organised then FGN everything is working.

the light there is 100% constant... It's always on... And Nigeria finds it difficult to give the masses constant power... God have mercy on our leaders

TheShopKeeper:
These are the kind of development that our churches should be doing for the local community where they are based.

Communities in Nigeria have no development plans. They also do not see their governments, chiefs or churches responsible or as partners in their development efforts. Such demands are often only directed to foreign businesses as a means of making quick revenue.

Papiikush:
At least they are doing something with the tithes and offerings

Nevertheless redeem church is filled with hypocritical and diabolic men in form of pastors especially those assistant general overseers.

They drive in their luxury cars and live in mansions meanwhile members of redeem (who are church rats) hang around, sleep and beg in the auditorium.

There are over three hundred buildings in the redemption camp and these people living and begging were deserted and at a point, they were haunted like animals and sent away from the auditorium.

Trust me, I know this because i stay in camp. If you know, you know...

you know sometimes we just need to keep shut. Cos when we talk we look stupid.. What you just said is everywhere and what exactly are you insinuating at and you said you stays in the same camp that you criticise... When the church is a blessing to Millions of business people... Different tribes comes there for business. People are being feed free during programs... There are miracles for those that truly goes there for it. What has the church dine to you to warrants your foolish talk? No offence but sometimes be reasonable

crooked church, full with crooked pastors.

Papiikush:
At least they are doing something with the tithes and offerings

Nevertheless redeem church is filled with hypocritical and diabolic men in form of pastors especially those assistant general overseers.

They drive in their luxury cars and live in mansions meanwhile members of redeem (who are church rats) hang around, sleep and beg in the auditorium.

There are over three hundred buildings in the redemption camp and these people living and begging were deserted and at a point, they were haunted like animals and sent away from the auditorium.

Trust me, I know this because i stay in camp. If you know, you know...

Bad belle everywhere