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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 1:58pm On Dec 03, 2017
afilaka:
I dont know why some people are so pained on this tithe issue. Is any one forcing you to pay tithe, we that are paying it, are we complaining? So whats the fuss all about. IF YOU ARE AGAINST TITHING FOR NO SENSIBLE OR JUSTIFIED REASON, YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL.
I initially wanted to like and support your post but I became disappointed at a point. Plseas try and understand people's fuss on this issue. Not all are outrightly against tithing even though I am yet to be fully convinced about it going by what I have seen and heard.I think the bone of contention here is that God commanded it to make available food in his storehouse so that the less privilege will see something to eat. These less privileges are the ones reffered to as levites who had no inheritance in the land. But today, what are these tithes used for; acquisition of earthly materials, building of too expensive universities and other frivolosities. Tithing is not bad but let our men of God do as God commanded
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by hadow(m): 1:58pm On Dec 03, 2017
nicemuyoo:
Tithe consist of agricultural produce that MUST come only from the boundaries of the land of Isreal. Tithe is not money!!! Tithe is ONLY used to cater for the levies, widows, orphans, stranger and the tither never for church buildings. That was in the old covenant law.
Tithe is not applicable today but the spirit of free will offerings applies done with right motivation and in secret not for public knowledge as clearly instructed by the messiah himself or else you don't get any blessing for it from God only mens approva and praise

are u forgetting that their income was of land and cattle and it was with the roman influence that money came to be used
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by martineverest(m): 2:00pm On Dec 03, 2017
victorioushands:
I do not know what T. B. Joshua said on tithe but, if he differs from others, then what he said is the right one. Some of the 'leading' pastors in Nigeria are already in a pit they don't know how to come out from and they will do anything to justify whatever took them them just so they can feel not so lost.

One man revealed what was done him in 4square and many think it's an isolated case but the truth is that it's happening in over 90 percent of today's churches. I have experienced it more than once and you need to be committed in every way to know these things do happen.
tb Joshua yesterday preached on tithing and freeze and nairalanders commended him yesterday.
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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Judgesledge(m): 2:01pm On Dec 03, 2017
UbanmeUdie:
shocked
Abraham paid tithe on the spoils of war, and not on his other earnings, I am open to correction though


My father! My father!!

Ride on sir!

Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.

Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.

And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).

Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?

I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.

Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.

Grace is the divine ability to do God's will without limitation where ordinarily, men would fail. Grace rides on the wheels of Mercy.

It is this mercy (divine pardon) that everyone enjoys today as a result of the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary. That is why, when many ought to have died instantly after committing a sin, they live on. Mercy suspends at outright almost instant consequence for sin and gives many chances for repentance.


The death of Jesus didn't abolish tithing because if it does, then it also abolished the sin of murder, idolatory and fornication.

His death only grants us divine pardon from the immediate consequences of sin.


I stand with Daddy G.O
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Midex88(m): 2:01pm On Dec 03, 2017
jigga40:
God told me you are a big THIEF!!! Ole jati jati.....! Too much emphasis on this tithe ish shows that all you care about is money! OLE man.

Be careful so you don't incure the wrath of the almighty God. Mind Your Words
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by lebete3000: 2:04pm On Dec 03, 2017
HeyCorleone:



Lol.. You still didn't give reasons why pastors shouldn't be accountable to their members.

Trying to know what your pastor uses your tithe for means you actually didn't give it to God, cos if you did will you ask God what He's using your tithe for?

"When you give, you give to the Lord"- Ron Kenolly.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by martineverest(m): 2:07pm On Dec 03, 2017
opesky74:

You people still don't know how to read the bible, you don't come here posting excerpt of 2 to 3 verses, but you have to read the whole chapter to understand what it says. Further in that chapter, it talked about the law being imperfect, hence a need for change, which is why Jesus christ came. Just read your bible properly
most of dem carefully avoid verse 12 of dat chapter that says the law is useless and unimportant..
They stop at verse 9
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Safiaa(f): 2:07pm On Dec 03, 2017
People need to stop worshipping this man like he is christ. I dont trust this man at all, he is extremely dodgy.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by HeyCorleone(m): 2:07pm On Dec 03, 2017
lebete3000:


Trying to know what your pastor uses your tithe for means you actually didn't give it to God, cos if you did will you ask God what He's using your tithe for?

"When you give, you give to the Lord"- Ron Kenolly.


Matthew 25:31-46 tells me exactly where to find the face of God. Never for once is tithe or donations or giving to a minister mentioned there.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 2:09pm On Dec 03, 2017
undecided undecided I am angry with you
Safiaa:
People need to stop worshipping this man like he is christ. I dont trust this man at all, he is extremely dodgy.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by WinkWrld: 2:09pm On Dec 03, 2017
No one should be insulted. Its a forum for discussion. Its a serious topic. So many people are brainwashed into paying money to churches. Ignorance is not acceptable. The questions are many any the answers are few.
The idea of tithe has completely been misunderstood. Lots of selfihness and deceit.
Now lets make it simple. Those preaching for tithe are doing so at their own interest and not for God. Why emphasize on tithe. It should be personal.
All these pastors dont fear God. They should be punished. Using Gods name in vain. The people paying the tithe in ignorance are even more guilty.
....... pls men Of God. Lets do the right thing. Find work to do mon-friday. Saturday and sunday is ok to worship. Stop stealing from people. U r warned

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by mickeymimi: 2:13pm On Dec 03, 2017
Abraham tithed only ONCE in his life. Yet Pastors claim that Christians should perpetually follow Abraham’s example by tithing, week after week, month after month, and year after year—for their entire lives!
Why? If Abraham tithed once, shouldn’t an once-in-a-lifetime tithe be enough? Also, Abraham was wealthy, yet he NEVER tithed his riches; he only tithed the spoils of war. Shouldn’t we be asking why Pastors crave 10% of members’ income, when they know that Abraham tithed the plunder of war?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PW2Hmv4_S8




Abraham was Rich before he Tithed to Melchizedek



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKUl7fMUN6Q
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Safiaa(f): 2:13pm On Dec 03, 2017
CyberFury:
Last I checked God didn't note down any account number in any the bible.

So I can tell you this idea of tithe is something that came up along the line, and became a law that people like Adeboye are willing to die to uphold because that's what fuels their private jets.

They tell us to pay tithe and we pay, and they build schools with the money and then make the fees unattainable for the poor masses that paid to have these schools built.

Your kid gets sick and they ask you to bring him to the church for prayers only releasing the poor kid when he's at the point of death, but when their kid gets sick he's flown out of the country in a private jet to a top notch hospital.

God has given us brain, and as such expects us to make use of it from time to time. Not making use of your senses is in fact a sin.

You keep fueling private jets and putting food on people's tables, while you can't take care of your wife and kids.

Please stop allowing green algae to cover your brain due to lack of mental activity.
Nigerians are obsessed with religion and not the relationship with christ. In the process, they lose all their common sense. Its the root of their problems, but they just cannot see it. Smh
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by pavy(m): 2:13pm On Dec 03, 2017
HeyCorleone:




Tither you have been spotted.

Happy now?

By sheep I meant the animal as it is. Senseless by nature. Not thinking. If one enters fire, the rest follow it.

The instruction you gave was from the old testament. How many Old Testament instructions are still followed till now?

I'm not even sure you know what the word contradiction means.


And of all animals created by God, Jesus chose to compare faithful, obedient Christians to sheep, and the disobedient ones to goat. Do you think that it was a coincidence? Think about it and let your mind be opened to heavenly wisdom...the ways and thoughts of man differs from that of God. Goats are stubborn, they will always go astray and not follow their leader, whereas the sheep is very obedient.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by thowbie7ven(m): 2:14pm On Dec 03, 2017
Keneeby:


How many of all these you mentioned have you done? Be honest with yourself.
Bro, i honestly carryout the first three I listed from time to time...reasons why the last one is still pending is because of my financial capabilities for now, once i'm up and running, imma start it fully...I do what I preach bruv!
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by lebete3000: 2:15pm On Dec 03, 2017
HeyCorleone:



Matthew 25:31-46 tells me exactly where to find the face of God. Never for once is tithe or donations or giving to a minister mentioned there.

I guess you sent me the wrong reply cos I'm yet to see any correlation between this scripture and the topic at hand.

I repeat giving to the poor doesn't subtitle for Tithe and vice-versa. It's like saying because you help the poor you'll make heaven even if you don't believe in Christ.

As a Christian you know that's definitely impossible cos Christ is the way.

Such a person is just being d Biblical Foolish Virgin in the Parable of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 2:16pm On Dec 03, 2017
Liar, Liar, Liar - Adeboye is a Liar.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by HeyCorleone(m): 2:18pm On Dec 03, 2017
lebete3000:


I guess you sent me the wrong reply cos I'm yet to see any correlation between this scripture and the topic at hand.

I repeat giving to the poor doesn't subtitle for Tithe and vice-versa. It's like saying because you help the poor you'll make heaven even if you don't believe in Christ.

As a Christian you know that's definitely impossible cos Christ is the way.

Such a person is just being d Biblical Foolish Virgin in the Parable of our Lord Jesus Christ.


So giving tithes is one of the prerequisites of going to Heaven.

Our old folks who started Christianity in Nigeria at a time when there was no talk on tithe, what happens to them?
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Harrynight(m): 2:20pm On Dec 03, 2017
zealous2121:
I correlate and stand with nothing but the truth.I know the truth so I stand with one who speaks the truth.I stand with daddy Enoch in this regard. Thanks for your words.

Correct urself! dont stand with Enoch cos he's wrong.... stand wit the truth as found in the Bible which simply state that Tithing has been scrapped From the Era of Jesus christ!



no man of god will tell u this truth i belive cos of what they stand to loose!
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by olowobaba10: 2:21pm On Dec 03, 2017
BOTH ABRAHAM AND JACOB LIED, SO CONTINUE LYING .
UbanmeUdie:
shocked



My father! My father!!

Ride on sir!

Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.

Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.

And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).

Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?

I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.

Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.

Grace is the divine ability to do God's will without limitation where ordinarily, men would fail. Grace rides on the wheels of Mercy.

It is this mercy (divine pardon) that everyone enjoys today as a result of the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary. That is why, when many ought to have died instantly after committing a sin, they live on. Mercy suspends at outright almost instant consequence for sin and gives many chances for repentance.


The death of Jesus didn't abolish tithing because if it does, then it also abolished the sin of murder, idolatory and fornication.

His death only grants us divine pardon from the immediate consequences of sin.


I stand with Daddy G.O
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by olagbemi118(m): 2:25pm On Dec 03, 2017
UbanmeUdie:
shocked



My father! My father!!

Ride on sir!

Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.

Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.

And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).

Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?

I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.

Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.

Grace is the divine ability to do God's will without limitation where ordinarily, men would fail. Grace rides on the wheels of Mercy.

It is this mercy (divine pardon) that everyone enjoys today as a result of the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary. That is why, when many ought to have died instantly after committing a sin, they live on. Mercy suspends at outright almost instant consequence for sin and gives many chances for repentance.


The death of Jesus didn't abolish tithing because if it does, then it also abolished the sin of murder, idolatory and fornication.

His death only grants us divine pardon from the immediate consequences of sin.


I stand with Daddy G.O
circumcision also came before the law and I'm sure u r aware of wot Paul said about it (gal6:15; 5:6) while I don't discourage payment of tithes, I also do not think we should attach it to the finished work of Christ..
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by afilaka(f): 2:25pm On Dec 03, 2017
yemi1261:
I initially wanted to like and support your post but I became disappointed at a point. Plseas try and understand people's fuss on this issue. Not all are outrightly against tithing even though I am yet to be fully convinced about it going by what I have seen and heard.I think the bone of contention here is that God commanded it to make available food in his storehouse so that the less privilege will see something to eat. These less privileges are the ones reffered to as levites who had no inheritance in the land. But today, what are these tithes used for; acquisition of earthly materials, building of too expensive universities and other frivolosities. Tithing is not bad but let our men of God do as God commanded


Helloooo, i dont know what church you attend. But i attend redeem,Are you aware that we have mission as a ministry on its own, do you feel or think because every church do not broadcast like emmanuel TV, they are doing nothing,i know how much my province alone donate to mission monthly, chat me privy, let me give you facts backed up with pictures.MUST WE BROADCAST OUR CHARITABLE WORKS? Another thing is, this less privilege we are always talking about, they are being catered for as far as i know of but even the bible said they will not cease in the land.... I am in support of the university building, 100% quality education and condusive learning environment is guaranteed, please how would you want them to pay their staffs, through fund raising? Or through the said tithe? [please, i need an answer to this] and atimes, lets be mindful and conscious of this things we read online,it would lead many to destruction, this topic on tithing was written more than a year ago, but the ill thinking OP said it like it was written yesterday.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by akanbiaa(m): 2:25pm On Dec 03, 2017
Tithing is only right when used to empower the poor,the unemployed, the downtrodden and the vulnerable.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by mickeymimi: 2:26pm On Dec 03, 2017
Abraham's Tithe to Melchizedek


The revealed purpose of Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek has nothing to do with the amount (the fact that it was a tenth). Abraham's tithe is not a "principle" for Christian giving. Hebrews 7 reveals that Abraham's tithe is significant because it shows that Melchizedek is greater than Abraham, and therefore Jesus (who is "High Priest according to the order of Melchizedek"wink is superior to the Levites, who came from Abraham



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KyWBDc-_Cg
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by toye440: 2:26pm On Dec 03, 2017
HeyCorleone:



You have no right to refer to anyone as a plastic Christian. Such term is very derogatory.


Why is it that it is those very "authentic Christians" that are the first to cast the first stone?

I am not saying tithing is wrong. What I am clamouring for is accountability and transparency. Let the G.O regularly publish or tell his Church members how tithes and offerings are spent up to the last penny. At least such practice was evident in the Old Testament. The pastor is both answerable to God and Man.
i thank God for ur maturity level, and i do appreciate d fact that u r not opposed to tithing.
But my take on tithing is simple, i believe it is expedient that churches collect to run and service d church. But lets not get this twisted d church is not d structure we lavish millions on trying to beautify but its members, d individual dat worships in every denomination is d church of JESUS. like christ said " upon dis rock (i.e. PETER ) i will build my church.
From d tithe d pastor has certain % ( Not really sure but i guess its 10%) wch he's permitted or allowed to take from for his own upkeep. Pastors r encouraged to work and not rely solely on that wch comes.
The present day ministers r too materialistic, most of wch believe or use pulpit gimmicks as a means of making money, and this has somehow encouraged some of our politician to steal just to drop for pastor to gain support wen elections come around e.g. GEJ
Pastors hv no doubt deviated from their original calling, of soul winning and helping d needy, reaching out to d neglected ones. Many r pastors today cos it pays and nothing more, and some of us who truly like d calling r ashamed of it cos everyone believes u r only called by tithe and offerings.
pastors should learn to remit mission offerings as given by members not part of it. But we must learn to accept frz's constant attack on MOG is rude particularly to pastor Adeboye, if he dear tries it with pastor ibiyeome, haa aunty kemi go gist am; maybe then frz would believe in tithing.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by MightySparrow: 2:27pm On Dec 03, 2017
legendte:

You are not far from the truth brother but I leave you this, try giving the amount to the poor and less privileged and see how more fulfilled you will be. How do you cope with paying tithe rather than helping the helpless among you? Jesus centered his teaching on helping the defenceless. Giving generally makes you feel good but insisting on tithe as a law makes it look like we are still under the law. Christians means followers of Christ and the bible would have captured it if it were necessary for us as Christians. Whatever you do to the least of my brethren, that you do unto me. It's a personal thing anyway. I didn't say people shouldn't give to the church but they shouldn't make it look like it is a pre condition for our blessing. Blessed is he that giveth than the one that taketh.

Giving to God is different from givingbto God. What you give the poor is alms to men, gift but to God are tithe and offering.

My tithe goes to the ministry I believe in gifts, alms as led.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 2:28pm On Dec 03, 2017
Adeboye is a Charlatan par excellence, God HIMSELF did not tell Adeboye any of the Lies he mentioned about tithes.

How sad, seeing that this liar is deceiving millions into thinking he has a direct line to God while they have to go through him to hear from God or receive a blessing. Sick people.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by nicemuyoo: 2:28pm On Dec 03, 2017
Money has been in use before the time if Abraham my dear .
hadow:


are u forgetting that their income was of land and cattle and it was with the roman influence that money came to be used

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by mufuteeeee(m): 2:29pm On Dec 03, 2017
victorioushands:
I do not know what T. B. Joshua said on tithe but, if he differs from others, then what he said is the right one. Some of the 'leading' pastors in Nigeria are already in a pit they don't know how to come out from and they will do anything to justify whatever took them them just so they can feel not so lost.

One man revealed what was done him in 4square and many think it's an isolated case but the truth is that it's happening in over 90 percent of today's churches. I have experienced it more than once and you need to be committed in every way to know these things do happen.

please, what happened to that man in 4square? thanks
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by MightySparrow: 2:30pm On Dec 03, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
They did signs, wonders and miracles to prove they had communication with God.

Which has Adeboye done?

Attend Holy Ghost Congres stsrting tomorrow. Watchin your home on RTM or stream it. You will be your own judge.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by zealous2121(m): 2:31pm On Dec 03, 2017
Where exactly in the bible state that tithing has been scrapped.what chapter what verse.
Harrynight:


Correct urself! dont stand with Enoch cos he's wrong.... stand wit the truth as found in the Bible which simply state that Tithing has been scrapped From the Era of Jesus christ!



no man of god will tell u this truth i belive cos of what they stand to loose!
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by TheMystic: 2:35pm On Dec 03, 2017
Armorall:
Tithing is to trust God. If I refused to pay Tithe, that means I have refused to trust God. So to Trust God, I will cease to be my brother's keeper and pay my Tithe to my Pastor, who will in the same spirit buy Private Jets as an easier means to take my money to God. I referred this to 18th century age of the Westerners. This means it will take Africa another 200 years to get to where Western world is Today.

And the western world isn't paused.

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