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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by barineh(m): 8:04am On Dec 28, 2017 |
I hope we reserve engineer all those weapons we're getting. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Ibrahimanees: 8:34am On Dec 28, 2017 |
Xbee007:Thanks man. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Ibrahimanees: 8:37am On Dec 28, 2017 |
barineh:We definitely will not reserve engineer it. but we MIGHT reverse engineer it. But I thought it's illegal? 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 8:54am On Dec 28, 2017 |
JF 17 block 3 now in preliminary stage since October.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 9:26am On Dec 28, 2017 |
SupremeCourt: As usual, you say something ludicrous, get called out and then proceed to desperately make this an RSA v Nigeria thing. APKWS, while an excellent purchase, is not ultra secret cutting edge technology. Examples of similar systems date back to the 1990s and it has 3 direct contenders currently on the open market. This is a simple fact. Makopa has nothing to do with this, it's a completely different missile of a completely different catagory. The Makopa clearly has acceptable accuracy credentials, else, Algeria would not have purchased so many systems from us. Please cease your confrontational nature, stop trying to constantly turn this into a Nigeria v South Africa thing. It's childish, and if you continue.... You will get banned, again. 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by QuietMynd: 9:37am On Dec 28, 2017 |
bidexiii:Thanks |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by QuietMynd: 9:38am On Dec 28, 2017 |
Nicheey:Thanks |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by QuietMynd: 9:43am On Dec 28, 2017 |
Odunayaw:Baba no be me o.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by barineh(m): 10:35am On Dec 28, 2017 |
Ibrahimanees: Definitely illegal. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:18pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
No end to idiocy here. 70mm rockets compared to an ATGM! And guided rocketry is an ultra-secret new technology Someone tell FZ,who stupidly tested their laser-guided FZ275 LGR 70mm rocket on Rooivalk back in 2015! 5 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 1:10pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Xbee007: You realise that the term classified has nothing to do with how the weapon actually works? The algorithms. BAE is not giving Nigeria the blueprints of how APKWS works (and never will in a million years) nor are the Americans with Paveway. Classified information relates to functionality of the weapon, something that all arms deals include. You're getting the crucial/secret information regarding use of the weapon. Flight envelopes, limitations, effect of cloud cover etc etc. Basically the secret information pilots need to know. Side note: That's why it's relatively easy to reverse engineer a purely mechanical system such as a machine gun, but very very difficult for a missile/guided system. You can have your technicians make something that looks similar to a Paveway, but with zero functionality. It's the algorithms that are top secret, and the customer will never have access to them. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 1:35pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
ssaengine:You just wouldn't let this go except you win the argument . No one said they will reveal the technicalities of the munitions to us. I don't even think they will allow NAF to produce basic spare parts of the aircraft. I meant CLASSIFIED in the sense that they definitely won't be happy to see Nigerians probing the workings of their intellectual property behind their back. Neither will they be happy to see Nigerian government supplying such weapons to third party without their approval. We all saw how US government blocked the sale of Tucano from Brazilian government 2 NG. Asking for blueprints is akin to walking into Coca Cola headquarter and asking for the unique recipe just because we have dozens of Coca cola factories in Nigeria. 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:52pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
ssaengine: This^. So much this . |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 1:57pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
First Egypt’s A400M military transporter spotted in Spain 2 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 2:07pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Xbee007: The original comment I replied to was along the lines of "we're getting guided missiles & classified technology". My point is Nigeria is getting nothing more than any other Tucano customer has received. It's a straight arms deal. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 2:59pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Item No. vii (vii) Sensitivity of Technology: 1. This sale involves the release of sensitive weapons software technology information to Nigeria. Software associated with the following weapons will be included in the aircraft operational flight program to support a future weapons capability. 2. Sensitive and/or classified (up to SECRET) elements of the proposed A– 29 sale to Nigeria includes the hardware and associated software with: Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System (APKWS) laser guided rockets, Guided Bomb Unit (GBU)–12/58 Paveway II laser guided tail kits, and Mark (MK)–81/82 general purpose bombs. 3. The Hydra 70 Rocket System is a modernized version of the 2.75 inch (70 mm) unguided rocket body with the MK66 Rocket Motor. 4. The APKWS is a low cost semiactive laser guidance kit developed by BAE Systems which is added to current unguided 70 mm rocket motors and warheads similar to and including the Hydra 70 rocket. It is a low collateral damage weapon that can effectively strike both soft and lightly armored targets. APKWS turns a standard unguided 2.75 inch (70 mm) rocket into a precision laser-guided rocket, classification up to SECRET. 5. GBU–12/58 Paveway II (PW–II) Tailkits: 500-lb (GBU–12) and 250-lb (GBU–58) are laser-guided ballistic bombs (LGBs) developed by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. The LGB is a maneuverable, free-fall weapon that guides to a spot of laser energy reflected off of the target. The LGB is delivered like a normal general purpose (GP) warhead and the semi-active guidance corrects for many of the normal errors inherent in any delivery system. Laser designation for the weapon can be provided by a variety of laser target markers or designators. The tailkit consists of a laser guidance kit, a computer control group (CCG) and a warhead specific Air Foil Group (AFG), that attach to the nose and tail of MK 81 and MK 82 General Purpose (GP) bomb bodies to create an LGB. This sale includes the tailkits to transform Nigeria’s existing 500-lb and 250-lb GP bomb bodies into GBU–12s and GBU– 58s respectively. Nigeria is also buying additional GBU–58s, 250-lb (MK–81) guided bombs. The overall weapon is CONFIDENTIAL. 6. AN/AAQ–22F Brite Star ElectroOptical/Infrared (EO/IR) Multi-Sensor Targeting System developed by FLIR. The system is a five field-of-view (FOV) large format thermal imager, three FOV color daylight camera with laser designator for terminal guidance of LGBs and IR-guided rockets. The system is classified as UNCLASSIFIED. 7. This sale is necessary in furtherance of U.S. foreign policy and national security objectives outlined in the Policy Justification. Moreover, the benefits to be derived from this sale, as outlined in the Policy Justification, outweigh the potential damage that could result if the sensitive technology were revealed to unauthorized persons. 8. All defense articles and services listed in this transmittal are authorized for release and export to the Government of Nigeria. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 3:08pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Nemesis4u Off topic 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 3:16pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
ssaengine:You are just stating a known fact which no one is disputing. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:20pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
ssaengine: Yep. Exactly the same as Afghanistan. Hell, the GPO document everyone is quoting is word for word what it said about the sale to Afghanistan, the Air Tractor sale to Kenya, etc, etc. Me, I'm pleased NAF is getting the Tucano. I'm not sure about the price though. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 3:20pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Its gonna look a lot like this. 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 3:23pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
ssaengine: "The sale of the 12 aircraft, with weapons and services, is worth $593 million, and includes thousands of bombs and rockets." |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 3:23pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 3:25pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Xbee007: The original comment "getting classified technology" was worth correcting. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 3:26pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
frumentius: Yep. Its a good aircraft. I won't comment on price to avoid any possible derailment 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:40pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
new moroccan police uniforms 3 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:48pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Algerian1, some are saying the missiles Algeria bought are sh1t 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 3:52pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Probably the most "famous" SA Special Task Force video. Foiling a cash heist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYoHWFoE9Q4 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 4:02pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
NAF 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Cannonleo(m): 4:13pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
jln115:apologies not accepted, retrace your mistakes merry christmas jlnn |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:35pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SupremeCourt: 5:56pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
patches689: When technical facts are used to debunk your illogical arguments, you call it confrontation. I proved all guided weapons are not equal, some far better than others because $30,000 guided missiles miss target completely. 93% hit rate for APKWS proved you wrong so I must get banned for proving you wrong because being correct is against Nairaland rules abi? Last time I got banned you too got banned as quickly. Learn your lesson, Stop starting fights you cannot finish.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 6:16pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
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