eph12:

You were trying to tell us that Lingard has been doing better than this before Lukaku came.

I said Lingard has scored every time Lukaku was on the bench. So those Lukaku's strength and all that are not the reason Lingard scores.

elampiro:
Lingard has played 1781 minutes with 13 goals. He is our second highest goal scorer in all competition this season. He has played less minutes than Martial and Rashford. Yet guys here think he is all about activities.

It looks like Martial and Rashford are the activity players in United. They keep trying things, dribblings but no goals as such.

Lukaku wasn't even in the team last season and that was why Lingard easily scored 20+ goals last season.

elampiro

Lukaku after the Chelsea game

"I told him before the game that every time I go down the sides he needs to make sure he’s in the box because I will find him," Lukaku told MUTV.

Shouldn't it be the other way round? Should Lingard not be asking Lukaku to stay in the box so he can create the chance?

elampiro:


I said Lingard has scored every time Lukaku was on the bench. So those Lukaku's strength and all that are not the reason Lingard scores.

We can see the reason Lingard scored just 5 goals in 40+ matches last season.

You have not told us how Lingard failed to score with Lukaku on the pitch or how Rooney was so useless, SAF took the penalty duties from him.

Oasis007:


Some Dudes are very funny on this Thread. United Players are already accustomed to conservative Football. They are overly used to defensive Tactic, thus you can't expect them to play offensive football perfectly because of Two Days Training Session.

Mou was only looking for flimsy Excuse to exonerate himself. Moreso he subbed off Luke Shaw simply to make him a Scapegoat, coz I see nothing wrong the Lad did in the first Half of the Match.

How did he expect United Players to play fast attacking Football because of just two Days Training Session?! Did they build Rome in two Days?! It took Man City Players a complete Season to master Pep's attacking Philosophy, hence Mou is only fooling himself not us.

He does not want to be criticised, he believes he's the best and immune to making Mistakes, hence any Pundits that critique his Work or Tactic must be paid back harshly by him. Thank God the Season is almost end, so if he's tired of managing the Team, then I advise him to mutually renege his Contract at the End of the Season.

I dont like this Mou argument but the bolded, really? Dude did everything wrong as a full back in the first half. He was always behind the ball and his midfielders when the team was attacking down his wing, was never an option for Matic whenever Matic received the ball, only ran ahead of martial to drag out opponent once or twice like that, was quite easily beaten too. Eventhough Mou is trying to shift attention to his players but Shaw wasnt the only one Mou blasted, he also blasted a McT, why is nobody talking about that, everybody just they concentrate for Shaw.. Biko Shaw played rubbish that day abeg, eventhough we might say he should have been encouraged to be more adventurous in the second half instead of being withdrawn but to say he did nothing wrong, lai lai, i no gree.

eph12:

Lukaku wasn't even in the team last season and that was why Lingard easily scored 20+ goals last season.

We are talking about this season. Last season and this are not the same. We had a new coach last season and many players were having their first real season in the EPL

This season, Lingard scores with Rashford or Martial leading the line

eph12:

We can see the reason Lingard scored just 5 goals in 40+ matches last season.

You have not told us how Lingard failed to score with Lukaku on the pitch or how Rooney was so useless, SAF took the penalty duties from him.

Lukaku is the useless one, Morata is outscoring him on minutes per goal.

eph12:
elampiro

Lukaku after the Chelsea game



Shouldn't it be the other way round? Should Lingard not be asking Lukaku to stay in the box so he can create the chance?

So Lukaku was bought for £75m to provide crosses to a more effective scorer?

elampiro:


We are talking about this season. Last season and this are not the same. We had a new coach last season and many players were having their first real season in the EPL

This season, Lingard scores with Rashford or Martial leading the line

Are you seriously going to argue the new coach angle?

According to elampiro, if a youngster plays the last 10 minutes of the last game of the season and scores, he is better than every other player because of his goal per match rating

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elampiro:


So Lukaku was bought for £75m to provide crosses to a more effective scorer?

No he was bought to score and Lingard should be creating. Why is he not creating?

elampiro:


Lukaku is the useless one, Morata is outscoring him on minutes per goal.

Don't let football fans catch you, not to talk of Chelsea fans

I know you're trying to troll Chelshit sha

eph12:

Are you seriously going to argue the new coach angle?

According to elampiro, if a youngster plays the last 10 minutes of the last game of the season and scores, he is better than every other player because of his goal per match rating

Lingard scores in many matches he started. He has also come on to bail us out. I don't get you.

I no even get your time again sef

eph12:

No he was bought to score and Lingard should be creating. Why is he not creating?

We have enough players to create for Lukaku, so it is not his primary work. Marital, Mata, Mikitaryan, Rashford, Lingard and recently Sanchez. Van Persie didn’t tell Welcbeck to go wait for him in the box.

elampiro:


Lingard scores in many matches he started. He has also come on to bail us out. I don't get you.

I no even get your time again sef

Lukaku has not been scoring, neither has he been bailing us.

Since you want us to be using children logic let's continue na

elampiro:


We have enough players to create for Lukaku, so it is not his primary work. Marital, Mata, Mikitaryan, Rashford, Lingard and recently Sanchez. Van Persie didn’t tell Welcbeck to go wait for him in the box.

What is Lingard's primary work?

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elampiro:


Let me make you understand the role of Lingard even though not as efficient as Rooney.

Firstly, Rooney played in the wing in his first season for United. He played there many other times throughout his career particularly when SAF emoloyed a 4-3-3 formation.

Take for instance, our match against Inter Milan at Old Trafford, once we went a goal up, Rooney was moved to left flank to protect Evra who was facing the most difficulties on the night. He played more as a wing back, then overlap to Assist a goal for Ronaldo. Giggs was moved to number 10. Same way against Madrid where he was meant to help Raphael stop Di Maria and Ronaldo. I think he did similar work against Barca in two or three occasions. In our UCL against Chelsea, Rooney was instructed to occuppy Michael Essien once we we lost the ball. Rooney was increasing protesting his defensive roles.

According to Ferguson, Welbeck got the nod ahead of Rooney against Madrid at Old Trafford because of Welbeck's ability to track back faster.

So you can see that even SAF always needed a player who could attack and work hard. That's the work of Lingard currently. Lingard has performed or bailed us out where Martial and Lukaku failed. True.



I am not arguing the quality of Lingard, Park and Rooney. What I said is they are made to play same role. Lingard has a unique quality Martial, Sanchez, Mata, etc don't have. So he will come ahead in selection or substitution in some situations and matches.

When we play against a fast physical side which are dominating us, Lingard will be ahead with his ability to go to our defensive third and win the ball, then drive it forward.

However, your claim that Lingard is all activity is rubbished by the fact that he is our most productive player on goals per minutes. He is also our second highest goal scorer in all competition despite having less minutes than Martial and Rashford.

Stats don't tell the whole story, Mkhitaryan comes to mind...
So you mean most of the matches Lingard has started, the plan was to counter the threat of the opposition we came up against? If so, then that's the issue with Mou, setting up always to contain the opposition rather than the other way around.

patrickmuf:
Stats don't tell the whole story, Mkhitaryan comes to mind...
So you mean most of the matches Lingard has started, the plan was to counter the threat of the opposition we came up against? If so, then that's the issue with Mou, setting up always to contain the opposition rather than the other way around.

Trash bro, he fvcking owned you.

lingard is all about forming activity you said, yet niqqa has 13, more than rashid and the holy grail anthony martial, shey una the yab hazard as activity specialist cuz of his low output, why tune come de change now for the matter wey de ground?

Ramuzaki don too spread dis amala turning virus.

chidexxy007:

I dont like this Mou argument but the bolded, really? Dude did everything wrong as a full back in the first half. He was always behind the ball and his midfielders when the team was attacking down his wing, was never an option for Matic whenever Matic received the ball, only ran ahead of martial to drag out opponent once or twice like that, was quite easily beaten too. Eventhough Mou is trying to shift attention to his players but Shaw wasnt the only one Mou blasted, he also blasted a McT, why is nobody talking about that, everybody just they concentrate for Shaw.. Biko Shaw played rubbish that day abeg, eventhough we might say he should have been encouraged to be more adventurous in the second half instead of being withdrawn but to say he did nothing wrong, lai lai, i no gree.

I wonder how people who watch our games think shaw is a better option at left back than ashley young.

eph12:

Lukaku wasn't even in the team last season and that was why Lingard easily scored 20+ goals last season.

Lol, lame....

who be activity former between lingard and martial/rashford?

weedtaker:
Trash bro, he fvcking owned you.

lingard is all about forming activity you said, yet niqqa has 13, more than rashid and the holy grail anthony martial, shey una the yab hazard as activity specialist cuz of his low output, why tune come de change now for the matter wey de ground?

Ramuzaki don too spread dis amala turning virus.

Martial has 11 goals 10 assists 21 contribution to goals

So tell who has more than Martial except Lukaku

eph12:

Lukaku has not been scoring, neither has he been bailing us.

Since you want us to be using children logic let's continue na

It's your logic that is childish. The strikers work is to score 25 goals for a club like United.

eph12:

What is Lingard's primary work?

Van P didn't play a team without heritage

So you know it is a team without heritage and you wanted Lingard to score like a striker?

weedtaker:
Lol, lame....

who be activity former between lingard and martial/rashford?

Martial 11 goals 10 assists = 21 contribution to goals in 2082mins
Lingaard 13 goals 5 assists = 18 contribution to goals in 2069mins
Rashford 12 goals 9 assists = 21 contribution to goals in 2233mins

Now you decide

elampiro:


It's your logic that is childish. The strikers work is to score 25 goals for a club like United.

Lukaku 25 goals 8 assists

chidexxy007:

I dont like this Mou argument but the bolded, really? Dude did everything wrong as a full back in the first half. He was always behind the ball and his midfielders when the team was attacking down his wing, was never an option for Matic whenever Matic received the ball, only ran ahead of martial to drag out opponent once or twice like that, was quite easily beaten too. Eventhough Mou is trying to shift attention to his players but Shaw wasnt the only one Mou blasted, he also blasted a McT, why is nobody talking about that, everybody just they concentrate for Shaw.. Biko Shaw played rubbish that day abeg, eventhough we might say he should have been encouraged to be more adventurous in the second half instead of being withdrawn but to say he did nothing wrong, lai lai, i no gree.

That oasis quote was pure and unblemished anti mourinho syrup! It has started affecting his vision when watching games! Please read the follow up quote I gave him after that post

raumdeuter:


Martial has 11 goals 10 assists 21 contribution to goals

So tell who has more than Martial except Lukaku

Lol amala turner, activity former aka jesse lingard has 13 GOALS how many does martial and rashid have?

weedtaker:
Lol amala turner, activity former aka jesse lingard has 13 GOALS how many does martial and rashid have?

How many assists does Lingard have and how many does Martial have?