This post is not created to promote hatred and disparity but to promote creativity and self development.
Gone are the days when polytechnic students are rated as the best in the field of practical but reverse is the case in this generation has polytechnic student no longer participate fully in practical.

The reasons include

(1)LACK OF SELF CONFIDENCE
Although 70% of Nigeria student lacks confidence to compete with their international counterpart after graduation but most polytechnic student feel empty after graduation due to the confidence they lack in themselves . Most of them don't believe in what they can achieve. Whenever they are vying for something with their University counterparts, they started having this feeling of emptiness in them...

(2)INABILITY TO DEVELOP ONESELF
As a matter of fact,most polytechnic in Nigeria lacks teaching facilities such as well unequipped laboratory ,library etc . unlike their University counterpart who consult textbook as recommended by their lecturers , most polytechnic student depend solely on the handout or material given to them by their lecturers therefore they limit them self to this material without developing themselves.

(3)LOW SELF ESTEEM
Some poly student do look down on themselves as if they are not real student.There's this saying that "whichever way you present yourself,that is the way you will be accepted".

(4)DISPARITY:
Due to the disparity between University and polytechnic graduates in the labour market.The morale of some polytechnic student drop whenever they think of this . That's the reason why some of them apply for direct entry after their ND/HND.... With PGD+HND, they are still not in the same level with their BSc counterparts.

(5)UNQUALIFIED ACADEMIC STAFF:
Leave it or take it , most polytechnics lacks qualified teaching staff.It is in polytechnic that you will see HND holder serving as teaching staff in the class room. The number of lecturers with PhD is nothing to write home about.. Most of the staffs don't develop themselves because they can reach the peak of their career(chief lecturer) with ordinary MSc unlike in the University where you will need to Obtain your Phd+many publications and a lot of research work to become a professor....
(6)POOR ACADEMIC CURRICULUM : How on earth can a student be offering 14-15 courses in a semester and the total day for the exam is a week or two.These makes them to read without understanding or to read just to pass their exams and this will affect in the nearest future.

(7)LACK OF RESEARCH
Most polytechnics in Nigeria still uses 19th century method of teaching to teach their student.For example,a mechanical engineering student that uses 1970 model Peugeot for their practical instead of modern cars.How will they be able to handle a modern vehicle after graduation.
Most of these poly students are not exposed to research.

SOLUTIONS
Development: Always develop yourself to be better than your university counterpart
Believe in yourself: Believe it that you can be better than your university counterpart
Proof yourself to people by displaying a marketable skills. Try to acquire skills relevant to your field... For example, as an engineering student, you can learn AutoCad or as a computer science student, you can learn programming...

Above it all, believe in yourself

Lalasticlala, please move to fp

Hmm that's so sad. They have no reason to feel inferior. There is no proof anywhere in this Nigeria that a university graduate is necessarily better than a polytechnic graduate. And there is no proof that both class of graduates studied anything meaningful to even make a difference. The curriculum for both Universities and polytechnics are both redundant. I don't see myself ever making any dinstinction between a poly and uni grad as an employer.

I dey cum

I quite agree with most of your points as they apply to most polytechnic graduates (not all) but the ones I totally disagree with are:

(6)POOR ACADEMIC CURRICULUM : How on earth can a student be offering 14-15 courses in a semester and the total day for the exam is a week or two. These makes them to read without understanding or to read just to pass their exams and this will affect in the nearest future.

How many undergraduate and post graduate students read to understand these days? especially not when you're studying an engineering course where you have to cram design formulas and other shītz you might never even use in the field. We all know the common slogan among students these days, be it polytechnic or university is "LA CRAM LA POUR". Most people are chasing the certificate and high grades that they forget one of the most important things is the ability to perform.

How many of the things you studied in your first to third year do you still remember vividly?

(7)LACK OF RESEARCH
Most polytechnics in Nigeria still uses 19th century method of teaching to teach their student.For example, a mechanical engineering student that uses 1970 model Peugeot for their practical instead of modern cars. How will they be able to handle a modern vehicle after graduation.
Most of these poly students are not exposed to research.

Can you mention how many federal or state universities you know of that use 2015 or above model of vehicles for their practical? I'm not disputing the fact that universities teach practical even though not all while rarely will you see a polytechnic that doesn't involve their technology students in constant practical.

"How will they be able to handle a modern vehicle after graduation."

very silly statement. Show me a mechanical engineering graduate from a university that can open a repair shop without having field knowledge. What's the essence of the industrial training university and polytechnic students go for if not to learn and familiarize themselves with how things are being done live in field.

Keep on dusting your certificate everyday with the hope of getting that dream job because you have B.Sc while that polytechnic graduate is out there gaining field experience day in day out.

P.s: It's only in Nigeria that I've seen that there's a big dichotomy between HND and B.Sc. The total credit units offered from ND 1 to HND 2 is equivalent and sometimes more than that of a university but never below.

Do you know that HND is equivalent to a bachelors degree in the US an some part of the world and that you can proceed for your masters program without PGD?

Uni and poly grads are both lagging behind their counterparts around the world. until we prioritize excellence and merit over quota the zeal to succeed will continue to suffer.

SuperSuave:
I dey cum

I quite agree with most of your points as they apply to most polytechnic graduates (not all) but the ones I totally disagree with are:
How many undergraduate and post graduate students read to understand these days? especially not when you're studying an engineering course where you have to cram design formulas and other shītz you might never even use in the field. We all know the common slogan among students these days, be it polytechnic or university is "LA CRAM LA POUR". Most people are chasing the certificate and high grades that they forget one of the most important things is the ability to perform.

How many of the things you studied in your first to third year do you still remember vividly?

Can you mention how many federal or state universities you know of that use 2015 or above model of vehicles for their practical? I'm not disputing the fact that universities teach practical even though not all while rarely will you see a polytechnic that doesn't involve their technology students in constant practical.

"How will they be able to handle a modern vehicle after graduation."

very silly statement. Show me a mechanical engineering graduate from a university that can open a repair shop without having field knowledge. What's the essence of the industrial training university and polytechnic students go for if not to learn and familiarize themselves with how things are being done live in field.

Keep on dusting your certificate everyday with the hope of getting that dream job because you have B.Sc while that polytechnic graduate is out there gaining field experience day in day out.

P.s: It's only in Nigeria that I've seen that there's a big dichotomy between HND and B.Sc. The total credit units offered from ND 1 to HND 2 is equivalent and sometimes more than that of a university but never below.

Do you know that HND is equivalent to a bachelors degree in the US an some part of the world and that you can proceed for your masters program without PGD?

I really like your point of emphasis but why I'm concerned specifically about this is that the level at which you will learn if you are able to handle any of this modern vehicle of you're taught in the school will be different from that of someone who has not handled it before...

HigherEd:
Hmm that's so sad. They have no reason to feel inferior. There is no proof anywhere in this Nigeria that a university graduate is necessarily better than a polytechnic graduate. And there is no proof that both class of graduates studied anything meaningful to even make a difference. The curriculum for both Universities and polytechnics are both redundant. I don't see myself ever making any dinstinction between a poly and uni grad as an employer.

Good point you made bro

Polytechnics nowadays are poo!

I don't know about the 19's, but the present polytechnics in Nigeria are nothing but overrated secondary schools. This does not even exclude the FG owned Polytechnics.

To start off :

*Polytechnics are overcrowded : The urge for naive secondary school leavers to leave home to a higher institution makes most percentage of them resort to Polytechnics after failed admission process/exercise in Universities. This has made most polytechnics turn into a money making venture where different unknown,unaccredited,unapproved and unofficial undergraduate programs take place to admit more than their carrying capacity. Most of these programmes are often termed DPP,DPA (daily UG part-time programmes)

*Polytechnics are lowly funded : It's a clear/undeniable truth that the educational sector gets poorly funded by FG. The case is worse with polytechnics as they are often neglected when it comes to allocation of funds to tertiary institutions.


AS I TYPE THIS TO YOU, OVER 1,200 STUDENTS ARE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF MASS COMMUNICATION, THE POLYTECHNIC, IBADAN ND 1 (WHICH IS JUST A CLASS) WITH LESS THAN 10 TOTAL LECTURERS IN THE WHOLE OF THE DEPARTMENT. that's almost half of the total number of students admitted for UG programmes in the University of Ibadan.

Like I said earlier, Polytechnics are poo!!!

Good points except for No. 7

Even Bsc is over rated!

That's because they are from polytechnic

Oh Lord! How many times are we gonna do this?
If any of the two produced smarter graduates, we wouldn't have had someone who never saw the walls of both institutions become president and call learned Youths of his country illiterates.
If any of the two institutions produced smarter graduates we wouldn't have old men ruling us and recycling themselves over and over again when the so-called smart university graduates and their 2nd class graduate counterparts from the polytechnics are wandering round the country and struggling for N30,000 N-power jobs.
Go to multi national companies and see School Cert holders from sane countries working as expatriates earning 1000% of what an average Nigerian graduate earns.
Let me fetch my pc, am finding it hard typing via mobile.

Good point but it doesn't worth it brother....

Okay

HMM

U have well spoken op. It's very correct

I absolutely see no need for d comparism n backlash @o.p except u're a jobless b.sc holder with self esteem problems.....



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live n let's live!

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peace!

Another good point you left out is the entry requirements of polytechnics. minimum of 4 credits as against Universities' 5 credits.

Crap....
Lazy Nigerian youth instead of you to think of how to send that dullard away , you sat down and think of these rubbish

This joke again...

To be very candid, the problem with equalization of BSc and HND in Nigeria is borned out of poor policy formulation.

Like the writer pointed out, how could NBTE allowed HND and BSc holders to lecture ND and HND respectively, while to NUC, MSc holder employed in the university is not a lecturer until he/she acquires PhD.

If the truth must be told, about 70% if not 80% of so called "lecturers" in polytechnics in Nigeria has BSc as academic qualification while less than 3% have PhD.

Permit me to say that until one has undergone rigorous academic exercises, one might hardly appreciates hard work in academics. Hence, the proliferation of what I called "nonsense" in polytechnics orchestrated by the people I choose to call teachers rather than lecturers. Till date, the level of sorting in an average polytechnic is alarming. Sexual harassment is more like a norm. Gangsterism is the order of the day. Personally, I see polytechnic as a vine without a vine yard. I know for sure, there are exceptional students from the vine, but I have a biased mind to products from the vine.

This Op is causing anoda wounds after Buhari called we youths the lazy ones.
I swear it will not be beta for both the Op & Buhariii



If u quote me wrongly it will not be beta 4 u too.

All The seven (7) reasons listed are baseless and non could hold water at all. Go and check records of professional examinations like ICAN, CIBN and so on, you will discover that HND holders passes these examinations more than the degree holders. Please carry out a research and you will confirm this.

To aid the discourse:

http://www.jarushub.com/sagamite-are-polytechnics-on-par-with-universities/

herzern:
Polytechnics nowadays are poo!

I don't know about the 19's, but the present polytechnics in Nigeria are nothing but overrated secondary schools. This does not even exclude the FG owned Polytechnics.

To start off :

*Polytechnics are overcrowded : The urge for naive secondary school leavers to leave home to a higher institution makes most percentage of them resort to Polytechnics after failed admission process/exercise in Universities. This has made most polytechnics turn into a money making venture where different unknown,unaccredited,unapproved and unofficial undergraduate programs take place to admit more than their carrying capacity. Most of these programmes are often termed DPP,DPA (daily UG part-time programmes)

*Polytechnics are lowly funded : It's a clear/undeniable truth that the educational sector gets poorly funded by FG. The case is worse with polytechnics as they are often neglected when it comes to allocation of funds to tertiary institutions.


AS I TYPE THIS TO YOU, OVER 1,200 STUDENTS ARE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF MASS COMMUNICATION, THE POLYTECHNIC, IBADAN ND 1 (WHICH IS JUST A CLASS) WITH LESS THAN 10 TOTAL LECTURERS IN THE WHOLE OF THE DEPARTMENT. that's almost half of the total number of students admitted for UG programmes in the University of Ibadan.

Like I said earlier, Polytechnics are poo!!!

polyibadan own na sorry case.. Overcrowding all in the name of generating internal revenue...

LACK OF RESEARCH
Most polytechnics in Nigeria still uses 19th century method of teaching to teach their student.For example,a mechanical engineering student that uses 1970 model Peugeot for their practical instead of modern cars.How will they be able to handle a modern vehicle after graduation.
Most of these poly students are not exposed to research.

I must confessed that you r not in tune with the current reality..I am a polytechnic graduate of elect- elect engineering , and I am currently d HOD of automotive department in an international vocational institution.. University graduates couldn't stand me during d interview which was conducted by professionals from one of d best university in united state...My current salary is more than what a professor earn in Nigerian university..I have been rejecting job offers..And also let me enlighten you, university education now in Nigeria is backward. I have work with a lot of university graduates, I know what I am saying.I once worked with Peugeot automobile n a university mechanical engineering graduate was working with me, I directed him to get a certain tool in a mechanical tool box for practical purpose, d guy was not able to identify d tool from d box..I was embarrassed that day.

Op, I can only pick two points from all you said...
Others are just repetitions