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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:48am On Jun 01, 2018
andrew444:


They should drop mikel agu jor,make dem no try drop ogu oo,ogu is already 30,onazi can still play for super eagles in the next world cup as far as he comes good for his club site,he is 25 years and in the next 4 years he will be 29 so why not? Obi mikel is 31 and playing at the world cup so why will a player of 25 cant make it then as far as he is still good enough?
I reasoned Onazi in the light of his dwindling form. That's why I used the word 'likely'
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Horus(m): 9:48am On Jun 01, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFo6bBfQ_1E

Super Eagles Train For England Friendly

Watch as the Super Eagles trained in Barnet, London on Thursday ahead of their pre-World Cup friendly against England.

The team will have their official training at Wembley Stadium on Friday by 5pm.

Twenty-five players were involved in the drills and ball work, except for Moses Simon who is nursing a thigh injury.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:49am On Jun 01, 2018
Mujtahida:

Not necessarily his age but capabilities. He's slowing down
Yes true talk not Onazi of before and with new players emerging i don't see him and any underperforming old players surviving it.

Pls check it out Sadiq Umar,Osimhen, Awoniyi, Nwakilis,Ebere Eze,Chuckwuemeka,Alampasu, Maduka,Osigwe,Tosin Kehinde,.If possible Onomah,Lookman,Uduokhai, Akpoguma etc.

Post WC is interesting cos enough talents ready for the show.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:52am On Jun 01, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


This long story is an evasion of the truth. How many Nigerian internationals are playing in English youth academies compared to the innit boys. I bet it would be of ratio of 100 innit boys to one Nigerian International. Yet you are trying to sell that the Nigerian internationals have advantage.

How many Nigerian origin players from England are playing in European football academies Compared to boys who have come directly from Nigeria.

With regards to getting into European football academies in my experience yes. I have been to quite a few clubs in Portugal, Belguim, Holland and last week I was in Germany. So I have a fairly good first hand experience of what I am talking about.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:53am On Jun 01, 2018
Joebie:
The England game is a friendly. We are probably going to make 6 subs. Who are we going to bring in in the 2nd half? Not starting a player does not necessarily mean they are inferior to the starters. Friendlies are still test matches. Iwobi didn’t even score against Argentina until the second half. And who says we can’t bring him immediately after half time.

Matches like this will help us decide who to start in a more serious match like Croatia. I won’t be surprised if we switched formations at some point in the match. Let the experiment continue. But the boys need to show that they have been playing together for quite a while.


Our starting line up today gives a clue on our starting line up in the worldcup

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:53am On Jun 01, 2018
Martz101:


kanu - Crouch (Portsmouth)??

Do you know how much movement and creativity Kanu offers? You are even proving Boss Icon4s point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:56am On Jun 01, 2018
Pinnick and Wike.. make that CongoDR mishap not hunt us oh. That’s if the story is true.

M7even:
Some crisis amongst NFF officials. This has to do with 250,000 dollars they received from Rivers state governor. Money is said to have been missing
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:56am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:


I thought he did well but overly impressed no I was not , for national team selection I expect more. He scored but I looked at his over all play in the match as well.

I was impressed by the sub that came on and showed impressive composure and vision to score after darting round three players to score.

One match doesn't make a player.

you are drifting, i only ask about the athletico match, according to you his overall play was not impressive and you preferred the sub that came on??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:56am On Jun 01, 2018
Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFo6bBfQ_1E

Super Eagles Train For England Friendly

Watch as the Super Eagles trained in Barnet, London on Thursday ahead of their pre-World Cup friendly against England.

The team will have their official training at Wembley Stadium on Friday by 5pm.

Twenty-five players were involved in the drills and ball work, except for Moses Simon who is nursing a thigh injury.
Any news on Simon thigh injury scan.Also Ndidi cos we need to ascertain their fitness level especially Ndidi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:57am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:


How many Nigerian origin players from England are playing in European football academies Compared to boys who have come directly from Nigeria.

With regards to getting into European football academies in my experience yes. I have been to quite a few clubs in Portugal, Belguim, Holland and last week I was in Germany. So I have a fairly good first hand experience of what I am talking about.

You are just being evasive. The point is simple. The ratio of innit boys in top academies compared to Nigerian youth Internationals is dwarfing by the innit boys and it is the same all over Europe.

You want to sell a false point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:57am On Jun 01, 2018
Ok o. Then let Rohr decide

Is the match today?

Martz101:


Our starting line up today gives a clue on our starting line up in the worldcup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:57am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:


Camp is indicative not holistically absolute.

What you get in camp which is at best a couple of weeks is a small insight into a player ability. The more objective, conclusive and all encompassing assessment is what that player does week in week out in his club.

You no go be cockroach for Lagos come turn Lion when you reach Warri, Eéeeeeee no deh happen.

In the same vein you can't all of a sudden go to camp and become a prolific goal scorer bullying defenders left, right and center, when in your club and league you have been anonymous all season.

All that talk about camp performance is to move away from the objective to anchor on the subjective, which is open to abuse.

Look at top performing countries they always have thier top performing players. If those players have underperformed in the league, they are simply out, all things being equal.





No dey will not listen but hate you for that bolded you wrote because ....They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.

because they hate the good and love evil hence will not establish judgment in the gate.

No wonder righteousness exalt a Nation but our reproach in this country is sin.

He will find you one useless excuse to make his case.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:00am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:


Passion is good but exceptional quality is much better.

Yobo has been arguably one of the most outstanding consistent defenders we have had in the SE in recent times. Albeit he began to drop off towards the end of his career.

So I don't necessarily agree with your approach. Players should be selected as a reward for[b] CURRENT OUTSTANDING CONSISTENT TOP QUALITY PERFORMANCES in thier club and league with the quality of league a major point of consideration. Any other considerations are simply open to abuse.
[/b]

No they will not accept because the heart of man is full of corruption. They love evil.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:01am On Jun 01, 2018
Martz101:


no mind that man, only arsenal youth team can boast of 8 or 10 innit boys

I wonder how someone wants to sell a lie as a truth.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:02am On Jun 01, 2018
If Rohr drops Ogu for Agu, Etebo or Joel, me, I will shout nepotism here.

None of those three has done anything spectacular enough to unseat Ogu, if we are all looking at things reasonable.

Whether in club or National team, Ogu trumps all three players, so, all this talk of Rohr likes this one, that one is a golden boy, this one is a workhorse is rubbish


None of them is better than Ogu by any stretch.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:03am On Jun 01, 2018
Coaches have preferences based on how they want to play. Let’s not forget too quickly how Shehu branched Agu at the later part of the season repeatedly at Bursaspor.

forgiveness:


I have followed Agu enough to know he is good. It sums up the reason I was the first person among this group to clamor for his invitation.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:05am On Jun 01, 2018
Joebie:
Ok o. Then let Rohr decide
Is the match today?
i believe the line up will be decided today
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:06am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:


Actually essentially it is.

I speak to countless football recruitment heads and football analysts. They all WITHOUT EXCEPTION start off with statistics.

Liam More played for a dead team Reading last season has played for two seasons non stop no injuries.

He has the best statistics in the Championship he is on his way to back to the EPL.

What makes Ndidi stand out, check his stats.

I can say your proposition is Totally wrong.

So yes much to the disappointment of some here, football na MATHEMATICS.
I know you cannot understand what I am saying, that is why you will quote me and be writing off point.


Football is Mathematics, why didn't Argentina win us in November? Football is Mathematics, how did Spain crash out in group stage in 2014? Football is Mathematics, how come Iceland is in the World Cup and Italy isn't?

Football is Mathematics, why isn't Niangollan in the Belginan national team?

Football is not mathematics, because contrary to the off point argument you made here, coaches do not always look to stats to field players. They consider other things. If it was by stats, why will a coach switch players for different games? Why not play the same people all the time because they have better stats?


Abeg, if you don't understand a point, don't bother quoting it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:06am On Jun 01, 2018
Joebie:
Pinnick and Wike.. make that CongoDR mishap not hunt us oh. That’s if the story is true.

I remember telling icon4s that he should know better about PH choice for DR Congo match.

NFF took the match to PH for their personal gain not for eagles.

I just don't know when we are going to put an end to this trash.

Imagine a WC friendly on that stuff just coz of monetary gain and not considering the risk involved.

I don tire

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:07am On Jun 01, 2018
Kog45:
Yes true talk not Onazi of before and with new players emerging i don't see him and any underperforming old players surviving it.

Pls check it out Sadiq Umar,Osimhen, Awoniyi, Nwakilis,Ebere Eze,Chuckwuemeka,Alampasu, Maduka,Osigwe,Tosin Kehinde,.If possible Onomah,Lookman,Uduokhai, Akpoguma etc.

Post WC is interesting cos enough talents ready for the show.
That's just it. Even Mikel MIGHT not survive it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:08am On Jun 01, 2018
safarigirl:
If Rohr drops Ogu for Agu, Etebo or Joel, me, I will shout nepotism here.

None of those three has done anything spectacular enough to unseat Ogu, if we are all looking at things reasonable.

Whether in club or National team, Ogu trumps all three players, so, all this talk of Rohr likes this one, that one is a golden boy, this one is a workhorse is rubbish


None of them is better than Ogu by any stretch.
GBAM
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:15am On Jun 01, 2018
It’s so obvious. That’s why we are light years behind as a country. Now how would the players feel?
Kog45:
I remember telling icon4s that he should know better about PH choice for DR Congo match.

NFF took the match to PH for their personal gain not for eagles.

I just don't know when we are going to put an end to his trash.

Imagine a WC friendly on that stuff just coz of monetary gain and not considering the risk involved.

I don tire

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:15am On Jun 01, 2018
andrew444:


Why do you want ogu to be dropped? it seems you love agu and you dont want him to be dropped.

With the love i have for joel obi i cant deny that he deserves to be dropped,joel obi or agu deserved to be dropped and not john ogu
Is this not why I say most of us here read superficially? He is analysing things based on feelers from camp not necessarily giving his preference as to who is dropped or retained.
Let's endeavour to read deep some bit. It would help reduce unnecessary arguments here.

I have not seen tbaba1234's response to your post but I can pre-empt what he'd say in response to your query.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:15am On Jun 01, 2018
Mujtahida:

I reasoned Onazi in the light of his dwindling form. That's why I used the word 'likely'

Yes onazi form is bad,I am not even comfortable of him starting
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by olapluto(m): 10:18am On Jun 01, 2018
This thread is moving at the speed of light. People, pls be summarising your points.
As for our friendly tomorrow, I wish Eagles can at least disgrace the English team. I will be watching the match with biased ITV or BBC commentary, and I know how they will hype their players. I want to see us dribble them, and score spectacular goals. Oh...and please no Harry Kane goal. I'm not a fan of that guy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:18am On Jun 01, 2018
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:19am On Jun 01, 2018
I agree

Modified
But is still the coach’s preference. Ogu is my choice though
safarigirl:
If Rohr drops Ogu for Agu, Etebo or Joel, me, I will shout nepotism here.

None of those three has done anything spectacular enough to unseat Ogu, if we are all looking at things reasonable.

Whether in club or National team, Ogu trumps all three players, so, all this talk of Rohr likes this one, that one is a golden boy, this one is a workhorse is rubbish


None of them is better than Ogu by any stretch.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:22am On Jun 01, 2018
Mujtahida:

To me it's not whether he is more effective than the other wingers and in fact I consider Simon better than him. My point is that I see him having potential to be far more effective playing from the middle.

Who doesn't know he is better from the middle?

But Mikel is there at the middle so what becomes of Iwobi? Relegate him to the bench?

I don't know if you have read Matz101's analysis of how Arsenal plays the 4-2-3-1 with Iwobi, Ozil, Mikhi

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:22am On Jun 01, 2018
tbaba1234:


I do not want Ogu dropped. I am just analyzing the situation as it stands.

Joel Obi appears to be Ndidi's replacement, that means Agu or Ogu are in danger of getting dropped. The choice of who will be dropped is not so clear cut. It is actually quite dicey.

I personally think Ogu has played better than Agu so far. If faced with the choice of both, i will probably drop Agu.
I no talk am?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:23am On Jun 01, 2018
tbaba1234:


Tragic.. I remember Uche Okechukwu from the back was the first person to celebrate with Yekini. I hope the present team maintain a good spirit.


The problem did not start when Rashidi ran with the ball into the net, it already started before that goal because second players that rushed to meet the ball before he scored did not with joy ran to the net to meet him but rather went away.

They were envious of each others achievement and there was in fighing already in camp.

The celebration only exposed the intent of their heart.

Besides, Rashidi had 1 or two assists in the competition. What is problem if the team is doing well without Rashidi scoring a goal?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:24am On Jun 01, 2018
Joebie:
I agree

Modified
But is still the coach’s preference. Ogu is my choice though
Ogu is the choice of any reasonable person.

There is no sensible reason why he should be dropped for any of those three. So, all these Team Joel, Team Etebo and the two people in Team Agu, should know that none of those three are better than Ogu currently

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:25am On Jun 01, 2018
Icon4s:


I don't know why this is difficult to accept or comprehend.

Meaning Iwobi can be played too as SS besides nancho?
while Simmy provide cover for Ighalo

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